The American left loves to chant "no blood for oil." But those same liberals would eagerly sacrifice American interests in the name of . . . a cheaper Caesar salad.Take this morning's report on CNN which came at about 7:35 am EDT. Entitled "Farm-Fresh Problems," the segment, narrated by CNN's Chris Lawrence, focused on the lack of illegal immigrant labor to harvest California's fruit and vegetable crops.
CNN REPORTER CHRIS LAWRENCE: California harvests about half the nation's fruits and vegetables and every summer, farmers need half-a-million workers to pick those crops. But the crackdown on illegal immigrants is keeping workers out of their fields, leaving unpicked fruit left to rot.
HENRY VEGA [California farmer]: They're definitely worried about being raided and deported.
View video here.
Lawrence did run a clip of an opponent of the immigration bill, Jack Martin of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, who said the proposed system would be gamed by illegals looking to stay in the country.
But then it was back to Vega saying "when you don't have the labor, it just breaks your heart." Lawrence concluded by describing a conversation he had with a farmer in which Lawrence asked why the farmers simply couldn't pay the workers more money.Radio talk show host Mark Levin made the point in his inimitable fashion on his show of May 21st.LAWRENCE: He said, 'we'd have to pass the costs on to the consumer.' And he says, honestly, he doesn't think people are going to pay more for a California strawberry, as opposed to one that's just as good and coming from Argentina. He said countries like that in South America can already ship their products a lot cheaper than he can right here in California. Critics say there shouldn't be jobs here in the United States that American workers aren't prepared to do.
MARK LEVIN: So we'll be importing fruits and vegetables rather than people . . . I'll pay more for lettuce or anything else, because let me tell you something, I'd rather pay more for lettuce than pay more in property taxes for school systems that are overwhelmed. I'd rather pay more for lettuce than pay premiums for health care insurance because hospitals are overwhelmed. I'd rather pay more for lettuce than put the final death blow into the Social Security and Medicare systems in this country. Yes, I'll pay more for lettuce.
Of course the sacrifices involved in our lax immigration policy go beyond the economic. They extend to our national security interests and the preservation of our political/cultural values. But what's all that compared to a cut-rate cucumber?
Contact Mark at mark@gunhill.net—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
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You can't tell me that if the
May 23, 2007 - 08:54 ET by jdhawkYou can't tell me that if the multi-billion dollar industry that is California farming didn't have the labor it needed, it couldn't invent robotic combines to get the job done. The industry has been lazy, because it can exploit workers by paying them next to nothing with zero benefits. Or should I say, the benefits are on us. We, the tax payers, are paying for their medical, dental, and subsidized housing costs.
This subsidized labor on the backs of tax payers is a "good deal" with the devil.
JD, you must be a white supre
May 23, 2007 - 09:03 ET by Roger the ShrubberJD, you must be a white supremacitst hatemongering Nazi. Tumbler told us recently that his amigos with backs of the moist variety are in this country illegally only to better our lives and do not cost the taxpayers of this country one dime. Tumbler should know, too, because he, like most Liberals, has his elbow firmly on the pulse of the American people
Rog,LOL-Speaking of our (te
May 23, 2007 - 11:09 ET by Dave RRog,
LOL-Speaking of our (temporarily absent) resident hispanderer and "Goodwill Ambassador" for all things illegal immigration related, I bet he's about to have a stroke right about now waiting for his new account to be activated. It must be hell reading all the I.I. stuff that's been flying around in here over the last few days and being unable to get in on any of it.
'Bet he's under sedation at this very moment. :-)
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Hey Tumbler, if you're reading this (and I know you are) I hope you are having a nice, quiet little vacation out there.........See you soon!
We really miss ya around here! -Yeah, like we miss in-laws from hell.
You know, you are just encour
May 23, 2007 - 11:17 ET by dscottYou know, you are just encouraging his behavior?
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
Tumbler doesn't have to be encouraged
May 23, 2007 - 11:23 ET by RJTumbler doesn't have to be "encouraged." He began calling me Nazi, SS, brownshirt, etc for saying that his attack the messenger style made him come across like a liberal. Prior to that, I had never posted to him.
dscott,I know, but I just had
May 23, 2007 - 12:00 ET by Dave Rdscott,
I know, but I just had to get one in.
I'll behave now. :-)
Awwwww, did El Guapo get hims
May 23, 2007 - 12:03 ET by Roger the ShrubberAwwwww, did El Guapo get himself perished?
I did not know that. Poor little fella.
Oh senor Dave--
May 23, 2007 - 13:32 ET by misterbillOh senor Dave--you betcha I am reading. I will be back in soon and I will attack you at the first chnce I get. My plan is to move 20 million Americans to Mexico. They must have SS or a retirement plan. Mexico will then have some good tax money. Then I will allow 4 million workers in. It's OK it's only letting in 10 years of the compromise number at once. They will send money back to Mexico too. Then one day, Mexicos GDP willexceed America's, Ole'.
And i will attack the old geezer too(senorbeel)--you racists are holding up your patriotic Senators compromise bill. Your businessmen are chomping at the bit to get all this cheap labor.
BTW would you like to buy a Z-Visa? We are already producing 1000 a day. I can get one for you wholesale.
zetas
May 23, 2007 - 16:50 ET by tejanodiablolos zetas are hole sale
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
yes, white supremacysts engage in hate speech
May 23, 2007 - 17:00 ET by tumbler"In this country illegally."
Of course; and a white supremacyst is usually engaged in virulent hate speech. Not in solving problems; but hating an ethnic minority.
What is it about this you fail to see ?
And when a wetback is deported who picks the lettuce ? Not the white supremacyst. --He is only here to squawk. Does he cost the taxpayers one thin dime ? No; he just costs the GOP a mid-term congressional election. And soon he'll cost the GOP a presidential election. But so what? Our health care industry will benefit. By then Hillary will be "restructuring it" for us. White supremacysts are helpful that way.
Ok, RJ & Dave, what did I
May 23, 2007 - 17:02 ET by dscottOk, RJ & Dave, what did I tell ya?
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
LOL!
May 23, 2007 - 17:07 ET by RJLOL!
ROFL....
May 23, 2007 - 17:09 ET by bigtimerROFL....
This is some kind of SICK j
May 23, 2007 - 17:10 ET by MightyMouthThis is some kind of SICK joke, right?? Please tell me it is BT!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Mighty....I went outside for
May 23, 2007 - 17:16 ET by bigtimerMighty....
I went outside for a few minutes to water some petunia's I just planted yesterday...get some wood in for the night, feed, water my animals, settle back in here...and POOF what do I see?
All I can say is OMG!
Why...me?
the return of tumbleweed
May 23, 2007 - 17:11 ET by LionKingtumbleweed has returned.
He is like the Rosie of Illegal Immigration -- extremely ill-informed and fact-free.
king hails rosie ?
May 23, 2007 - 17:18 ET by tumblerGee, king lion; why so stuck on Rosie ? is she flipping your tortillas at home ?
This is still a free country ? Yeah; and I say Roger's a white supremacyst. Note I spell it with "y"; since the whot supremcyst is a boil on the arse of our society, giving all white people a black eye; even those who are untainted by that sickness.
tumbleweed...ad hominem attacks
May 23, 2007 - 17:23 ET by LionKingI was just using Rosie as a simile towards you. No need to resort to ad hominem attacks.
I was just saying that you are as passionate about Illegal Immigration being ignored as Rosie is LARGE!!!
yes...passionate
May 23, 2007 - 17:36 ET by LionKingYes..you are passionate and wrong ... also like ROSIE.
This is still a free
May 23, 2007 - 20:40 ET by JDWThis is still a free country ?
No. Our rights are being defined by dems. The dems have run dry of slaves and are attempting to fill the well with Mexicanos. People such as you are unable to realize the fact and support the eventual demise of America.
More than 75% of the current field workers are US, what is the dem plan to employ the hundreds of thousands they want to import? Employment is 4.6%, where will the illegals work? Whose jobs will they compete with? How will it affect wages and benefits?
A mí te pareces nada más que un pedazo de mierda. ¿Estás aquí a eschuchar o a discutir?
JDW
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the extent of your hatred
May 23, 2007 - 22:58 ET by tumblerAll of your post above draws on prejudice; the perceived notion that allowing people from the south ito our society is deleterious and shameful. This is the language of demagogues. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Coming on in Spanish with flagrant hate speech is no substitute for the truth.
Escucharte a ti seria inutil; no hace falta el embustero para hechar commentarios de imbecil. A la porra con tu estupidez, cretino. --Yo no escucho la babozada de los groceros.
JDW...You may have noticed al
May 23, 2007 - 23:05 ET by Clear thinkerJDW...
You may have noticed already, but trying to converse clearly and logically with Tumbler is a certified impossibility. He cares more for the Mexican heritage than he does our American heritage.
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Clear,What is going on here?I
May 23, 2007 - 23:16 ET by BlondeClear,
What is going on here?
I've been gone a bit, and the illegal immigrant apologist got off probation, again?
Ayeeaaaah!
No more sane debate about illegal immigrants.
Care to place a bet about how many days it will take for him to call me a Nazi, yet again?
Blonde...Maybe we need to get
May 23, 2007 - 23:21 ET by Clear thinkerBlonde...
Maybe we need to get the Minute Man project to keep an eye on Tumbler. Everytime he shows his head here they have our permission to use a Tazer on him.
It may not cross Tumblers small mind, but you would make a terrible Nazi (thank God).
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Thanks, Clear.I'm out.I'm goi
May 23, 2007 - 23:27 ET by BlondeThanks, Clear.
I'm out.
I'm going to have to seriously consider how such a disruptive trollish abusive poster as Tumbler has been reinstated on this board.
I've seen such major ugliness from him....against myself and alot of other posters here. And while I'm at it...ugliness by certain others here, on the religious front....bashing Mormons and Catholics, using the most vile name calling and lies.....
Guess I shall have to reconsider whether I want to particpate further. I'm not really too pleased with where this board has been going lately. Perhaps the rules of use need to be clarified. But I am sorely disappointed with the turn of events.
Catch you in a while, Clear.
Caio!Help a wounded soldier h
May 23, 2007 - 23:33 ET by Clear thinkerCiao!
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very comforting indeed
May 23, 2007 - 23:35 ET by tumblerThis is such good news. Blonde is going elsewhere with her idiocy. No more shall we see her obnoxious bleating; her attitude of solemn superiority and cleverness.
In fact she was consistently boring and never contributed ZILCH to any discussion. Biondina's forte was to diminish others by expressing contempt. Her outcry against me was that I "called her a Nazi," and that was a lie; everybody knows it.
Goodbye, don't bust your hip going out the corral door, Moo-Blonde ! Slow down, hear ?
The Goodwill Ambassador
May 23, 2007 - 23:37 ET by botgThe Goodwill Ambassador
Tumbler, don't hide behind that dishonesty
May 24, 2007 - 09:51 ET by RJTumbler, don't try to hide behind that dishonesty.
You have repeatedly said Blonde and others are "the same as" Nazis, brownshirts, and so on. That's no different than calling them those names. The only difference is that you think it allows you to pretend you didn't.
Blonde,ROFLMAO!-It's all my f
May 24, 2007 - 07:58 ET by Dave RBlonde,
ROFLMAO!-It's all my fault, as I must have been the trigger on his reinstated account. (Spanking myself furiously)
After all, dscott did try to warn me, but my pride & arrogance got the best of me. :-)
Just returned to see what/i
May 23, 2007 - 23:23 ET by JDWJust returned to see what/if he had responded.
I addressed his concern about freedom yet he ignored my example and bi-itched about meaningless mung. He claimed the addition of the illegals 'would not cost taxpayers one dime'. I explained otherwise yet again he ignored the facts. His solemn dem defense of the mexicanos gave me incentive to take a chance and express my true feelings in Spanish, he's one of them.
JDW
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JDWthere are issues in which
May 23, 2007 - 23:26 ET by botgJDW
there are issues in which you can have rational debate with Tums, this ain't it.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
I wonder if he cares only abo
May 23, 2007 - 23:32 ET by Clear thinkerI wonder if he cares only about Mexicans or does his obsession include allowing everyone from South America, Central America, Russia, The Balkans, Communist China, Haiti, etc etc, be allowed to sneak into our country illegally?
What he cannot get through his thick skull is... we don't care if they are called Mexicans or Martians, if they sneak in illegally we want them shipped out. If they come here legally, we welocme them with open arms.
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The dems do not care. He mo
May 23, 2007 - 23:38 ET by JDWThe dems do not care. He most likely has been brainwashed into supporting the cultures, how could he justify only Mejico?
JDW
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His obsession with Mexico is
May 23, 2007 - 23:43 ET by Clear thinkerHis obsession with Mexico is more than just a little troubling. The rumor about him working for La Raza may have some validity.
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if we concede to clear thinker
May 23, 2007 - 23:26 ET by tumblerListen to the clown who calls himself a "clear" thinker. He doesn't think at all.
Yet he expounds here on the problems of "conversing clearly and logically" with Tumbler; who on his worst day thinks rings around the clown.
He still insists I had a "Mexican heritage" even after I stated clearly that I have NO relatives, not ONE, in Mexico. I'm a Spanish-American, born in New Mexico. My ancestors settled the valley of the Rio Grande in the 1590s, before George Washington was born. I have titles to ancient Spanish land grants honored by the U. S. government under stipulation of clauses in the Gadsen Purchase of 1848. I could not in justice expect "clear" thinker to savvy such obscure things as these, since he is a half-wit at best.
If only half-wits didn't try to lecture grown-ups. I know at least one American half-wit. Can't think himself off the john. He just sits there farting and dozing; in a daze -- ! Ha ha! "Clear Thinker", INDEED !
You just got off of time-out,
May 23, 2007 - 23:29 ET by BlondeYou just got off of time-out, Tumbler.
Tone it down.
Blonde, BT etal _ I know you know this old one --but--
May 23, 2007 - 23:47 ET by misterbillBlonde, BT etal _ I know you know this old one --but--
A frog and a scorpion showed up at a river at the same time. The frog kept his distance. The scorpion said, "will you carry me across the river on your back?". The frog said "No, you will sting me and I will die." The scorpion said, "you know I cannot do that or I will drown". So the frog let the scorpion jump on his back. Halfway across the river the scorpion stung the frog. As th frog was dying, he looked up and said to the scorpion, "why did you do that, now we both will die." The scorpion replied ." I can't help it, I am a scorpion and that is what scorpions do."
The scorpion is back.
Amen!Help a wounded soldier h
May 23, 2007 - 23:53 ET by Clear thinkerAmen!
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Well, I guess things are back
May 24, 2007 - 08:00 ET by Dave RWell, I guess things are back to normal around here.
Tumbler...Quit before you mak
May 23, 2007 - 23:39 ET by Clear thinkerTumbler...
Quit before you make a complete ass of yourself. Go back and read what I wrote. I did NOT say your heritage. I'm sorry if you have problems understanding very clear statements, maybe you need to think about therapy.
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now they're ganging up
May 23, 2007 - 23:49 ET by tumblerHow come the faithful Mexican-bashers are so quick to gang up on me, c-t ? Must be because you were out-manuevered ? Can't fend off a reasoned argument ?
Instead of suggesting that others are asses, pick up your own dragged ass. Next time, lay off my "heritage." I am an AMERICAN. I resent when a blowhard like you insinuates that I came out of Mexico, just to try & earn points. It shows how dumb you are. I'm as good an American as anybody in this blogsite, and PROUD of it.
T-H-E-R-A-P-YHelp a wounded s
May 23, 2007 - 23:55 ET by Clear thinkerT-H-E-R-A-P-Y
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As long as we are so Bi-lingu
May 24, 2007 - 10:33 ET by Ruths husband BenAs long as we are so Bi-lingual (not that there is anything wrong with that!), here is a phrase one can use in Mexico:
"¡Ninguna lechuga, para el motivo del dios! ¿No puedes verme eres un gringo?"
(for those who actually speak Spanish, if this isn't grammatically correct, blame the Google language tools, I personally barely speak English.)
How depressing
May 23, 2007 - 17:09 ET by Mr. BishopAmazing.... we were all having a great time with no Tumbler, then he comes back calling people white supremacyst(s) [sic] for commenting on Mexicans being here illegally. It's just odd I tell you; you comment on the legality of someone being in the country, and you become a white supremacyst [sic].
If homosexuality is genetic, then it must be a birth defect. If it is a birth defect, it might be able to be cured by stemcell research.
I had read he had been bounced in the past--
May 23, 2007 - 17:20 ET by misterbillI had read he had been bounced in the past--he was "tumbler" and then was aloowed back on as TUMBLER_2007. Perhaps his old login was re-enabled--it resd 48 weeks plus.
This I will say--if he goes onas he did in the past while we are fighting the "compromise", I will switch to the other places I read and another blog site.
misterb...Don't let the likes
May 23, 2007 - 17:28 ET by bigtimermisterb...
Don't let the likes of him run you off.
It is already obvious he hasn't changed one spot...so stay, he isn't worth running any of us out of here IMHO.
Just a suggestion....thought I would throw it out there friend.
If I can grin and bear it......LOL!
bt,Let's hope the powers that
May 24, 2007 - 08:14 ET by Dave Rbt,
Let's hope the powers that be here have him on triple secret probation this time around, cause if Blonde and misterbill leave, I'll be, .....well, let's just say, I'll be less than happy.
Next time you'll listen???
May 24, 2007 - 09:24 ET by dscottNext time you'll listen???
BTW -Tumbler and I get along most of the time, of course we disagree vigorously.
Let a thousand flowers blossom and a hundred schools of thought contend. - Mao Zedung That was before he unleashed the Cultural Revolution to cut down all the weeds that had sprouted in his Garden of Eden. Muhuhahaha
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
I had read he had been bounced in the past--
May 23, 2007 - 17:21 ET by misterbillI had read he had been bounced in the past--he was "tumbler" and then was allowed back on as TUMBLER_2007. Perhaps his old login was re-enabled--it read 48 weeks plus.
This I will say--if he goes on as he did in the past while we are fighting the "compromise", I will just pop in once in a while . He brings down the class of the site.
ethnic minority?
May 23, 2007 - 17:25 ET by UndercoverConservativeWhat California are you living in?! Hispanics are *not* a minority by any means, and that's just counting US Census reports of documented workers and hispanic-descended Americans! Not even counting the estimated 4 million illegal, undocumented ones, and their dependents totally under the radar!
Also, just a reminder, Mexico is *NOT* an Ethnic group! it is a geopolitical entity as defined and recognized by the UN. It is on the same standards as Panama, Canada, England, America, Japan, and hundreds of others. Illegal immigration is from Mexico. The legislation is to stop illegal Mexican invasion. It does *NOTHING* to hispanic Americans.
But this debate isn't about truth. It's about maintaining a safety valve for Mexico. For its racist economy (Spanish descended-white-Mexicans run most of the government Socialized businesses, while indigenous descended-brown-Mexicans are the underclass) and it's disastrous social policies, it keeps things from boiling over into open revolt. It allows Mexico to tax millions in American dollars pouring in while avoiding the need to take care of it's poor. And like Castro did to Florida, Mexico now has a tasty outlet for it's hardest criminals...give them the choice of execution or leave the country to America.
Maybe Hollywood can do a new version of "Scarface" where it's a Mexican drug lord enforcer who gets dumped from Mexican prison and "encouraged" to set up shop here, where he works his way up from coyote to pimp to criminal overlord...
Indeed, the dirty little secr
May 23, 2007 - 23:55 ET by UnsaneIndeed, the dirty little secret is that Mexico, since about...oh, 1810 or so...has been engaged (or at least their pasty elites have been engaged) in a quest to make the skin of Mexico lighter; meaning, casting out those who are not as pasty as the elites.
Hence, instead of developing their population, they are hell-bent on casting them out.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
another dealer in hate speech
May 24, 2007 - 00:03 ET by tumblerYeah, old UNSANITY.
He thinks he's being funny when he denigrates another country's people. How is it he can't see his own racism in these ugly words ? (These are the same ones who denigrated the black American; back when political correctness was still to come.)
Funny, you can't spot any rac
May 24, 2007 - 02:41 ET by UnsaneFunny, you can't spot any racism in my posts: this post merely is a regurgitation of what I learned as a student of history. Yet, I can document your clear hatred of Asians, specifically the Japanese.
Not to mention your total hatred of anyone who isn't Catholic, and especially of me, since I reject any notion of there being such a thing as God.
Are you aching for me to embarrass you AGAIN?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
unsane shows his hatred
May 24, 2007 - 12:30 ET by tumblerUnsane says Mexicans are everything that's despicable; from their government on down to the poorest victim of poverty. But somehow he thinks he's saying something unbiased. Racists are always the ones who know all about another ethnic group. Unsane adds insanity to his racial bias. He's too crazy even to cover his racist tracks.
He claims I slurred Japanese by saying one single word. "Jap." The fact that every newspaper in the world used the term after Pearl Harbor, and our finest war correspondents did that as well;
That fact is lost on this mental midget. (Oh; now he''l declare me an enemy of the Seven Dwarves too ! Wow; I had better chill. He'll wank himself brain-dead calling THAT a slur too. ) Best not to incite half-wits to unnecessary lying. They never know where to stop.
Please point out where I have
May 25, 2007 - 02:29 ET by UnsanePlease point out where I have stated such a comment. It is fairly impossible for me to even think such a thing, considering my living in TX, in both San Antonio and Houston, with its large Hispanic community. Not to mention that after I show your pathetic accusation to quite a few friends of mine of Mexican ancestry, I am positive they will have a great laugh at your expense.
If I am this evil racist bastard you depict, then I should be running screaming to Iowa and its 90+% pasty population, right?
You did slur the Japanese. If that terminology is okay now, then why isn't it used in polite discourse today? There are quite a few words that were commonly used when you were younger that are no longer acceptable; just because they were used with abandon in earlier times doesn't make it acceptable now. You are just going to have to accept that fact.
Good to see though that you do not deny your intense hatred of anyone, Christian or otherwise, who isn't Catholic.
I agree on what you say about inciting half wits such as yourself to unnecessary, incessant lying. You surely don't know when to stop. Not to mention your constant whining of "Racist! Racist! Racist!" only makes life on those who ARE suffering from racism all the harder, since you are a shining example of The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
for the record:
May 25, 2007 - 13:19 ET by tumblerHere it is for the record, unsure and unsane:
"That was not against the Nazis in Europe; it happened in the Phillipines, when our men were fighting the Japs." --The context of my statement was about wartime, World War II.
Now shut up, I never slurred Japanese. I spoke about enemies in wartime. Since then I've even had a 2nd generation Japanese-American brother-in-law. So much for my alleged racism, you liar.
You have engaged in the mean-spirited, vile denigration of Mexico and Mexicans illegally in this country. That is hate speech; it's also racist speech. If you disagree, fine. It's a free country, that's my considered opinion. Speak like a racist, I call it racist.
As for saying my hatred of anybody, you include all Christians: that's also a bald-faced lie. I don't even hate YOU, and you're a bottom-feeder of the lowest kind. If you're going to debate me, keep it HONEST. You are no conservative if you do what most Democrat pols do, --LIE. Worse, you tell DUMB lies.
Proof, Mr. McCarthy
May 26, 2007 - 06:37 ET by UnsanePROVE that I hate Mexico or Mexicans or SHUT THE F*!K UP!!!
I don't take orders from hypocrites or the holier than thou. You hate the Japanese, and I can document that quite easily. I don't care if you spoke about them in wartime. Your hatred of the Japanese shows quite clear, you racist hypocrite.
(I for one find it quite amusing how I have pointed out that I have many friends of Hispanic heritage - not hard to do in TX - and that I have dated women of Hispanic heritage, and yet you STILL scream "RACIST!!! RACIST!!! RACIST!!!" YET, you engage in the exact same defense, and I am just supposed to shut up and accept it! I am about to hit a new level, where the absence of air will let me breathe!!! [h/t, Meshuggah])
What's the matter, tumbler? You don't like having your own excrement thrown right back at your face? Keep screaming like the pathetic infant you are.
Your hatred of all that is not Catholic is documented all over the place as well. Keep throwing that tantrum; it is telling all what your mental age is.
I am keeping it 100% honest - hence your tantrums on NB. The truth can be quite painful.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
he lets it all hang out
May 26, 2007 - 19:05 ET by tumblerAnother cockamanie outburst by unsane, The Corndog who Walks Like a Man. He's actually DATED a woman from somewhere in Mexico ! La dee dah ! Ask me if I care !
You prove my point here, unsane; Now that you've been challenged (and put down) you'll switch to that innocent guy who dated hispanic girls ! I don't give a fig if you dated Mother Theresa. You're always saying hateful things about illegal aliens and denouncing anyone who defends them. You simply LIE about how i've defended my faith aganst those who slam it. You wouldn't know faith if you were struck by lightning and lived.
PLUS; You LIE about me. That much sticks out. I haven't ever said ONE hateful thing about Japanese, orientals or anybody Asian. You plain INVENTED that shetty LIE. I would be a ninny if I didn't call you on it; you are PLAIN DISHONEST, a born liar.
Oh my goodness Tumbles...youv
May 23, 2007 - 17:26 ET by bassndudeOh my goodness Tumbles...youve lost it.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Yep. I thought I smelled dumb
May 23, 2007 - 20:12 ET by Roger the ShrubberYep. I thought I smelled dumbass. Tumbley-poo must be back.
El Guapo, you need to re-tool your talking points. You have been proven wrong so many times, on so many different threads covering so many different topics, by so many NB regulars, it is getting rather pathetic.
BTW, is that you with the bullhorn? I guess keeping your wife disappointed isn't a full-time job, since you have time to hang out con su amigas.
OH, MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And j
May 24, 2007 - 07:40 ET by Dave ROH, MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And just in time for the weekend, too. :-)
Reparations for pea pickers
May 23, 2007 - 09:11 ET by Cool ArrowGuess we all know the bill, if passed, would go directly to the courts for some pruning under the Equal Protection clause.
I still think Blacks will be pushed aside in the Muslicrats zeal to adopt a more lucrative group of ex slaves.
I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
Nope. The Nation of Islam won
May 23, 2007 - 09:19 ET by Sergeant ROCKNope. The Nation of Islam won't stand for that!
Put farming aside. How woul
May 23, 2007 - 12:26 ET by JDWPut farming aside. How would dems react to Wal-Mart hiring illegals?
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
Ahhhhhh...! Good question!
May 23, 2007 - 12:28 ET by Sergeant ROCKAhhhhhh...! Good question!
They're definitely worried ab
May 23, 2007 - 08:54 ET by Dave RThey're definitely worried about being raided and deported.
Good! That is as it should be.
The reason illegals arent wor
May 23, 2007 - 09:14 ET by well99The reason illegals arent working the fields is they are to busy working in processing plants,mills,construction and such.
So we'll be importing fruits
May 23, 2007 - 09:14 ET by dscottSo we'll be importing fruits and vegetables rather than people . . . I'll pay more for lettuce or anything else, because let me tell you something, I'd rather pay more for lettuce than pay more in property taxes for school systems that are overwhelmed. I'd rather pay more for lettuce than pay premiums for health care insurance because hospitals are overwhelmed. I'd rather pay more for lettuce than put the final death blow into the Social Security and Medicare systems in this country. Yes, I'll pay more for lettuce.
Thank you Mr. Levin for making the case for outsourcing. Why should we be building more roads, schools, jails, etc when their country of origin should do it for them? How many more people do we need, we have 300 million? Spreading jobs around, spreads the wealth which in turn creates more wealth and raises the standard of living in poor countries. So the question is why should we lower our standard of living when it is better for everyone involved to raise theirs?
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
Mofo Lettuce
May 23, 2007 - 09:20 ET by Cool ArrowAbsolutely right dscott.
Seems kids used to do these jobs when I was a kid. Waitaminnit, I did these jobs when I was a kid. Maybe that's why I'm not selling crack today.
I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
Yup that is how you earned mo
May 23, 2007 - 09:33 ET by well99Yup that is how you earned money.To buy that 200 dollar car you had to push down a hill to start.Funny thing is alot of farm land around where I live has becoming houseing developements.
I live in a suburban developm
May 23, 2007 - 10:50 ET by ahusserI live in a suburban development. I never see kids shoveling walks, delivering papers or mowing lawns anymore. That and scavenging for deposit bottles was how you earned extra money even if you had an allowance.
"A mind is a terrible thing." - A comic I forgot the name of.
My senior year of high school
May 23, 2007 - 13:19 ET by InsufficientContextMy senior year of high school(7years ago) my economics teacher asked the class how many of us were currently unemployed. 16 hands went up. He then asked how many of us had never had a job, part time or in the summer. 12 hands stayed up. I grew up in a trailer park and had been working in a restuarant since I was 14. My mind was officially blown.
First off, this farmer, Vega,
May 23, 2007 - 09:35 ET by BeowulfFirst off, this farmer, Vega, openly admits to paying sub-standard salaries to illegals. Why is he not in jail? He has admitted, on national TV, that he not only hires illegals, but pays them below the mandated minimum wage.
This is just another installment of the whining such as we recently heard from the home construction industry about the lack of illegals is slowing home building. It also shhot down any argument whether illegals are being exploited on wages or not.
There are only two words I can thing of to address these exploiters: Ah waaa!
The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers
Where's ICE?
May 23, 2007 - 09:44 ET by Sergeant ROCKWhere's ICE?
Funny, I for one would like t
May 23, 2007 - 09:51 ET by dscottFunny, I for one would like to see the house building industry slow down some to allow the excess housing stock to come back into balance. This is just another example of illegal immigration interferring and distorting the economy with negative effects for all. When you upset the supply demand equation by over supplying cheap labor there are negative consequences.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
housing slump
May 23, 2007 - 10:29 ET by the mad poleI am currently working on one of the few remaining homes under construction here in central Florida's east coast. The completion is dragging,AT about 2 to 3,000 feet of space @ a half a million and used to be a waiting period just before the last interest rate increase. Now, I'm the last gringo standing. The only other non- hispanic is an Haitian. The three homes surrounding this home sit empty tho completed for months and the rest of this sub-division that is intertwined with a brand new golf course is desert , I'd say that things ARE SLOWED DOWN!! Never seen ICE while my oldest son and two of my nephews cannot find work. I was working two jobs and now I am part time. Things went from boom to poof in less than a year
Unfortunately, you have to ex
May 23, 2007 - 10:41 ET by dscottUnfortunately, you have to experience the consequences of other people's actions. It will take time to bring the housing market back into balance. As long as interest rates don't rise, the housing stock will have a chance to decline. Had builders not had access to cheap and plentiful labor, there would be a backlog of houses to be built, keeping you and others busy and thus limited the boom bust cycle.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
jobs Americans won't do
May 23, 2007 - 11:17 ET by the mad poleThat is why "jobs Americans won't do" rings so shallow, Stucco , soffit, painting,tiling, carpentry, landscaping, roof tile and shingles!!!!! The Gringos still do the finish work because some of the Asian home-buyers still demand quality. I AM A VICTIM OF NO CIRCUMSTANCE !
"...the last gringo stan
May 23, 2007 - 11:18 ET by Rackie"...the last gringo standing." Cool! Can I borrow that?
aye aye
May 23, 2007 - 11:20 ET by the mad poleCoitainly
ICE
May 23, 2007 - 09:51 ET by Cool ArrowIt's flowing across the border like black tar heroin. Oh, I thought you were talking about the supposed War on Drugs.
Never mind
I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
This is exactly my problem
May 23, 2007 - 12:18 ET by general companyThis is exactly my problem with Illegals, they are not protected by US labor laws putting us in a very shady situation. First off, it makes it likely that Americans will not be able to do any of these jobs (illegals are currently doing) simply because they will not be protected. The employer cannot risk violating civil and labor rights of Americans, but illegals, they have been doing it for years with out fear. Second it also drives down wages of skilled labor. I have seen it here in New Orleans since Katrina.
Not only these reasons, we should not have folks here that we dont know. If our Gov has all of my info, they should have theirs too.
lettuce prices
May 23, 2007 - 10:09 ET by LionKingLook...I've used this example many times. If these farmers need these crops picked, offer $24 per hour instead of $6 per hour to the illegals.
This is a sorry example, but illustrative of the labor cost of lettuce. Say the illegal picks 1 head of lettuce per minute ... that's 60 heads per hour...that's 10 cents per head for labor.
Now if they hired a citizen at $24 per hour and produced at the same rate the labor cost per head of lettuce would be 40 cents per head or an additional 30 cents.
Can we live with 30 cents more per head of lettuce and not need to import labor or lettuce and keep US workers working? (Note: The labor cost per head of lettuce would be cut in half by merely picking 2 heads per minute and so on...)
Our so-called dependence on illegal imported labor is greatly exaggerated.