If a Republican presidential candidate like Rudy Giuliani or John McCain charged a $55,000 fee to speak at a major university about poverty, would the media be all over it like white on rice?
Well, the San Francisco Chronicle’s Politics blog reported over 16 hours ago that Democrat presidential candidate John Edwards spoke about poverty at a California university last year, and other than Fox News, no major press outlet has considered this newsworthy (emphasis added throughout):
The candidate charged a whopping $55,000 to speak at to a crowd of 1,787 the taxpayer-funded University of California at Davis on Jan. 9, 2006 last year, Joe Martin, the public relations officer for the campus' Mondavi Center confirmed Monday.
Didn’t hear about this? Why would you? After all, this is a Democrat candidate, not a Republican. The article continued:
That amount -- which comes to about $31 a person in the audience -- included Edwards' travel and airfare, and was the highest speaking fee in the nine appearances he made before colleges and universities last year, according to his financial records.
The earnings -- though made before Edwards was a declared Democratic presidential candidate -- could hand ammunition to his competition for the Democratic presidential nomination. The candidate -- who was then the head of the Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity at the University of North Carolina -- chose to speak on "Poverty, the great moral issue facing America," as his $55,000 topic at UC Davis.
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In 2006, records show Edwards made more than $285,000 speaking to nine colleges and universities, charging between $16,000 and Davis' $55,000 for his talks. They ranged from the $12,000 he got on Jan. 10, 2006 from Gonzaga University Law School in Seattle to the $40,000 he banked from the University of Texas Pan American Foundation on May 22, 2006. Other schools that have paid Edwards to speak before he was a declared presidential candidate: Hunter College in New York ($35,000), Mount Union College in Ohio ($16,00) and Vanderbilt University in Nashville ($40,000).
Isn’t that marvelous? So, the most Edwards charged last year was for a speech about poverty.
How delicious, especially coming from the man who likes to campaign on there being “two Americas":
Today, under George W. Bush, there are two Americas, not one: One America that does the work, another America that reaps the reward. One America that pays the taxes, another America that gets the tax breaks. One America that will do anything to leave its children a better life, another America that never has to do a thing because its children are already set for life. One America -- middle-class America - whose needs Washington has long forgotten, another America - narrow-interest America - whose every wish is Washington's command. One America that is struggling to get by, another America that can buy anything it wants, even a Congress and a President.
2004 is a make-or-break election because we need to create one America again. And that is the one thing George Bush will never do. Dividing us into two Americas - one privileged, the other burdened - has been his agenda all along.
It seems this is a fine example of one highly "privileged" liberal taking advantage of the “burdened.”
Can you say “Do as I Say, Not as I Do?”
As an aside, here is the prepared text of Edwards' speech on poverty to the National Press Club June 22, 2006.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
















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The worst thing I've heard
May 22, 2007 - 11:43 ET by MilesDThe worst thing I've heard from him - a trick he learned as a plaintif's attorney -
speaking in the voice of the injured (like an injured child) to a jury
He still does it to this day.
Gore learned the trick too ("Mommy, why didn't people listen to the scientists fifty years ago mommy?? Why do we have to so much suffer mommy?")
Didn't he communicate with th
May 22, 2007 - 11:48 ET by Sergeant ROCKDidn't he communicate with the dead in one of his cases?
Lawyers should be banned from politics!
yup - voice of the lost chi
May 22, 2007 - 12:01 ET by MilesDyup - voice of the lost child (in a negligence suit) - - to the jury
He still does this trick
(Let's get up a petition - lawyers out of politics!!!)
- how far would this one go
Where do I sign?
May 22, 2007 - 12:14 ET by Sergeant ROCKWhere do I sign?
John Edwards' platform: can you say "hello, comrade?"
May 22, 2007 - 14:35 ET by RJI read Edwards' speech, and it's full of false references, like blaming Katrina on poverty. The rest is generalized platitudes and calls for big, socialized government to "solve" the problem of poverty....now , there's a big surprise.
He calls his plan the "Working Society"....which sounds a lot like a socialistic "Worker's Society", doncha think?
Edwards says "In a Working Society, we would create new opportunities to work. We would offer affordable housing near good jobs and a million last-chance jobs to people who cannot find work on their own."
"In a Working Society...we would raise the minimum wage and cut taxes for low-income workers. We would find ways for workers to not only have but keep their health care and other key benefits...we would help workers save for the future with Work Bonds and homeownership tax credits. And we would create a million more housing vouchers for working families...It includes expanding preschool for three- and four-year-olds....The Working Society won't forget about America's small towns and rural communities. It will offer tailored solutions to meet their needs."
Edwards' plan is full of more of the same, and offers cradle to grave government care. Can you say "hello comrade?"
How many years did it take
May 22, 2007 - 15:26 ET by MilesDHow many years did it take for the Soviets to get out from under Leninism?
What did their economy look like for fifty years?
What will our economy look like when we limit fuel, and at the same time, get out the message for the "laborers and workers, unite"?
Well if we do it, we are doing it to ourselves, I guess, and in the Soviet style, it was the Party bosses who made Leninism mandatory, and now we have our media doing it for us
Edwards' speech proves he's a flat-out capital "S" Socialist
May 22, 2007 - 20:44 ET by RJ"laborers and workers unite"
Funny you should say that, Miles. Edwards also said he wants to strengthen the unions and help more workers organize.
His speech proves that he's a flat-out capital "S" Socialist.....but then, no matter how much she tries to hide it, Hillary is a Socialist, too.
We HAVE to keep the Democrats from winning the Presidency.
On the Socialist Edwards
May 22, 2007 - 15:38 ET by UnsaneRemember, since the Hyper-Evil Rich Leeches NEVER EVER work and have NOT worked a single day of their lives, Edwards MUST punish them as viciously as possible and steal as much as possible from them.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
thats what speakers do.
May 22, 2007 - 14:54 ET by treshanthats what speakers do. they charge to speak about things, no matter the subject matter. should he not charge for work he's done? do you work for free? he's an expert, and experts get paid to talk about things. as leader of an institute that fights poverty, he is called upon by other institutions where 55,000 is not by far high for a speaker to speak on his subject matter of expertise.
MandS
May 22, 2007 - 15:03 ET by Noel SheppardMandS,
First and foremost, this is about media coverage, not about whether or not he should get paid. Make sense?
However, I have found it extraordinarily hypocritical that exceedingly wealthy liberals who point their fingers at greed do everything within their power to make more money and pay as little taxes as possible.
It's not about whether or not he should get paid. Instead, if he really is such an advocate for the poor and down-trodden, why take money from a college to discuss an issue so dear to him? Why not do it pro bono?
In fact, what was interesting was how he charged UC-Davis - a state-run university -- $15,000 more than Stanford, one of the finest and wealthiest private universities in the country.
Forgive me, but if you don't see the hypocrisy here, what can I tell you? ns
I've read "Rudy" ch
May 22, 2007 - 12:06 ET by j. frank wilsonI've read "Rudy" charges $100,000 and up for his speeches.
Frank
May 22, 2007 - 12:09 ET by Noel SheppardFrank,
About poverty? Does Rudy campaign on "two Americas?" ns
Good, Noel!
May 22, 2007 - 12:25 ET by MilesDGood, Noel!
MD
May 22, 2007 - 12:33 ET by Noel SheppardMD,
Well, the other point clearly missing on our buddy Frank is that he's HEARD Rudy charges that much.
Why?
Because the media report it.
As such, the question for Frankie is had he HEARD about what Edwards is charging before now? After all, this speaking engagement occurred 14 months ago. And nobody touched it.
Please understand that I don't begrudge Edwards making money. Quite the contrary, I want people to make as much money as they can.
However, I do want the media to report such things about ALL presidential candidates, and not just Republicans. ns
This blog uses the classic ri
May 22, 2007 - 13:45 ET by j. frank wilsonThis blog uses the classic right-wing "what if?" argument (a NB staple). Mr. Guiliani does charge for his speeches - almost twice Mr. Edwards' $55,000.
I didn't write "heard" - I wrote "read." Here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/14/AR2007021401700.html
Why is it necessary to use the "what if" line when the facts are out there? "Rudy" recycles the same speech - "How I saved America after 9/11" - for 100 Grand a pop.
Frank
May 22, 2007 - 14:29 ET by Noel SheppardFrank,
Yes. You have read it. Until today, did you read anything about Edwards' speaking fees, especially those from 14 months ago? ns
I wonder how many of these
May 22, 2007 - 14:46 ET by MilesDI wonder how many of these political or media web sites Frank could find that had any content that would be less than flattering for Edwards or Hillary or Albert,
or how many of the sites had anything decent (anything at all) to say about Bush (wow, some of those blogs are bad)
And for the Edwards speech in
May 22, 2007 - 14:57 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveAnd for the Edwards speech in question, the subject matter is quite ironic. You would think that a multi-millionaire that is going to speak on the subject of poverty would either charge only travel expenses or give the speech on his own dime because the subject matter is that important (not to mention trying to avoid any chance of appearing or being hypocritical). Edwards talks about these "two Americas" as if he is from the disadvantaged one when he clearly is not. He is out of touch with the average American and probably has been since he became a successful trial lawyer...to be out of touch with "average" people for around 30 years is a long, long time.
There is nothing wrong with the vast amounts of money people charge for their speeches, the thing we are pointing out is the sheer lunacy of Edwards' chosen topic and the fact that the media has left it alone...but if someone like Rudy gave that same speech and only charge $30,000 it would've been a big media to-do.
"What-ifs" are useful especially in this case of demonstrating how one-sided our media tends to be.
"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt
"What-ifs" are usef
May 22, 2007 - 15:55 ET by j. frank wilson"What-ifs" are useful especially in the case of demonstrating how one-sided our media tends [sic] to be." Sure - because there is no limit. You can "what-of" or "suppose" or "imagine" any silly comparison. There's no end to it.
Agreed. What ifs can be taken
May 22, 2007 - 16:10 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveAgreed. What ifs can be taken too far. However, they are still useful tools to get people thinking.
What if Rush Limbaugh was the one that made fun of the Chinese language rather than Rosie O'Donnell? How would the media have covered it?
What if Snoop Dogg called the Rutgers University Women's Basketball team a bunch of "nappy-headed hos"? Would the media have covered it?
Are those that silly?
"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt
No - they aren't that silly.
May 22, 2007 - 16:12 ET by j. frank wilsonNo - they aren't that silly. But rather than speculate, I would prefer to deal in actual examples.
And I hazard a guess that you will agree with me on this - there are ample examples on both sides of the various debates.
Again, I agree. There are exa
May 22, 2007 - 16:26 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveAgain, I agree. There are examples on both sides. Speculation can still be helpful in more ways than one.
What if my daughter sneaks out of the house in the middle of the night? What will I do about it? Rather than wait until it happens, I make a contingency plan in case the event happens (my oldest daughter is only 4 now, but I'm thinking ahead). I'm not waiting for the actual example.
I think the media should do the same type of thinking when formulating a story. What if...? and see if their reporting would be consistent with both sides.
"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt
Dr. Schlesinger discusses the
May 22, 2007 - 16:30 ET by j. frank wilsonDr. Schlesinger discusses the very difficult concept of correctly constructing similar circumstances for the purposes of such comparison(s) in his excellent book "The Bitter Heritage." In my experience it's hard enough when dealing with actual events.
Four is a wonderful age - at this risk of sounding like a cliche, enjoy every minute of it. It goes by with astonishing speed and what ever age your children are they will never return to.
You being a Socialist, I figu
May 22, 2007 - 15:47 ET by UnsaneYou being a Socialist, I figured you would be quite unhappy with Edwards just as you are with Giuliani for that unpardonable sin of earning money. Why aren't you demanding Edwards' pockets be picked? Oh, that's right...because you are as big a Socialist parasite as he is.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I've read that all Democrats
May 22, 2007 - 12:25 ET by mattmI've read that all Democrats are Satan worshippers.... So much for "I've read"...
Get some facts, J. Frank, and stick to the context...otherwise go away.
And here, folks, is another e
May 22, 2007 - 12:26 ET by TeamcheeserAnd here, folks, is another example of the "Alan Colmes Style of Debate". A lib gets in trouble, and good, old Alan is there to remind the world that conservatives are bad too.
Although in this case, Rudy is being a capitalist, while Edwards is being a hypocrite.
An astute observation!
May 22, 2007 - 12:31 ET by Sergeant ROCKAn astute observation!
This guy's chutzpah, knows no
May 22, 2007 - 12:07 ET by jmad627This guy's chutzpah, knows no bounds. How in Gods name anyone could stomach voting for him for anything more than dogcatcher is beyond my level of comprehension.
From his speaking for a dead child, his $400 haircuts, the new big house for his family, the hedge fund job. Am I leaving anything out? The list seems to go on, as I'm sure that there are more examples of his hipocracy that have been overlooked by the MSM.
I have no idea what (2) Americas he is talking about, just the definitive definition of the, "do as I say, not as I do," liberal Dem.
May God have mercy on our country, should he get elected!!
Am I leaving anything out?
May 22, 2007 - 14:19 ET by NoMoreClintonsAm I leaving anything out?
I think you left out the beauty treatment at the Pink Sapphire.
Edward's Fees
May 22, 2007 - 12:14 ET by CellaYou bet there will be miminum coverage on this story.
But the clock is ticking on this imposter.
You never know...the people (
May 22, 2007 - 12:27 ET by mattmYou never know...the people (at least according to the MSM) are clamoring for a female president.... ; )
Good point mattm!! He'll be t
May 22, 2007 - 12:34 ET by jmad627Good point mattm!! He'll be the 1st women POTUS, as BJ was the 1st black POTUS. Ann Coulter is right, about him being a faggot....oops am I allowed to say that without going to rehab?
The People will not elect a t
May 22, 2007 - 13:14 ET by Phan of TruthThe People will not elect a tort lawyer (thief) and a sub-prime lender (loanshark).
"One America that is str
May 22, 2007 - 13:46 ET by general company"One America that is struggling to get by, another America that can buy anything it wants, even a Congress and a President."
Is this a sales pitch?
More on kleptocrat Edwards
May 22, 2007 - 15:43 ET by UnsaneI think that this wannabe kleptocrat might want to do what he can to empathize with that other America that justifies his insatiable urge to steal from others, and give his speech - for free. Or redistribute that fee among every single one of the members of the audience. Looks like the Socialist owes everyone in his audience roughly $30.78!
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I laugh everytime I read j fr
May 22, 2007 - 20:10 ET by rightsideI laugh everytime I read j frank wilson, et al.
Noel, I thought this site documented the bias in the MSM? I demand my subscription fee be returned!
Saying you can find examples on both sides of bias or whatever else, is like saying "in the battle of Thermopylae, you could find examples of warriors on both sides."
I'd venture a guess the ratio is 100:1, negative reporting on conservatives, versus negative reporting on liberals.
The root of this story is the irony of a megamillionaire giving (not being paid for) a speech on poverty. Imagine if you will, a miserable, feckless president, like say, jimmy carter calling this administration the worst in history. How ironic would that be?
$55,000 per talk!! Wow... t
May 22, 2007 - 20:17 ET by Jack Bauer$55,000 per talk!! Wow... that's 137 Haircuts! Not including tips.
But I have a feeling our Johnny ain't a big tipping kinda guy. Anyone disagree?
I'd give speeches about Robin
May 22, 2007 - 20:25 ET by balboaI'd give speeches about Robin Hood if they'd pay me $50,000 to do it.
Balboa
May 22, 2007 - 20:39 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Heck, I'd give speeches about why Bill Clinton was the greatest president in American history, and why his wife will be even better for $50,000!!! :-) ns
In other words, you have a
May 23, 2007 - 07:40 ET by MilesDIn other words, you have a price to sell out : )
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this could go on for miles
Totally understandable Noel
May 23, 2007 - 07:46 ET by Cool ArrowSo we're just haggling over price as the old joke goes.
Everything has a price. See also John 3:16
Seriously, I thought Clinton's first term was exceptional given he signed off on the conservative's Welfare Reform.
Look at the value gained to
May 23, 2007 - 07:59 ET by MilesDLook at the value gained to the costs of the Clean Air Act ammendments, and see if you want to revise the adjective, "exceptional:"
: )
Miles
May 23, 2007 - 09:15 ET by Noel SheppardMiles,
Don't we all? :-) ns
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May 23, 2007 - 09:19 ET by MilesD: (