The May 17 edition of "The View" featured Rosie equating the United States with the terrorists, and Joy announcing her support for a Republican...but not what you may think. Token non-liberal Elisabeth Hasselbeck strongly made her case for how evil terrorists are and Rosie scuffed, "I don’t think you should use the word terrorist." Hasselbeck then noted a murderer is a murderer and asked what we should call terrorists "sweet peas?"
Rosie, in interrogating the non-liberal co-hosts, implied that the United States are the real terrorists.
O’DONNELL: I haven't -- I just want to say something. 655,000 Iraqi civilians are dead. Who are the terrorists?
HASSELBECK: Who are the terrorists?
O’DONNELL: 655,000 Iraqis -- I'm saying you have to look, we invaded --
HASSELBECK: Wait, who are you calling terrorists now? Americans?
O’DONNELL: I'm saying if you were in Iraq, and the other country, the United States, the richest in the world, invaded your country and killed 655,000 of your citizens, what would you call us?
HASSELBECK: Are we killing their citizens or are their people also killing their citizens?
O’DONNELL: We're invading a sovereign nation, occupying a country against the U.N.
After implying that they are terrorists, Rosie claimed to speak for the American people.
"Because people no longer- The vast majority of Americans no longer are falling for the trick of the bad terrorist are out there to get us."
Elisabeth Hasselbeck then turned the tables on Rosie and asked several times if the comedian "believes in terrorism." Just as she would not answer Bill O'Reilly's question if she wants America to win in Iraq, she does not answer the question until she finally says there is "government sponsored terrorism" including in the USA.
HASSELBECK: Do you not believe in terrorism?
O’DONNELL: I believe, Elisabeth, that 6,000 dead Americans from 9/11 and from this war is a lot less than 655,000 dead Iraqis.
HASSELBECK: But do you believe in terrorism?
O’DONNELL: I believe every human life is equal.
HASSELBECK: Do you believe there is terrorism?
O’DONNELL: I believe in state sponsored terrorism. I believe there is government sponsored terrorism by every nation in the world, including ours.
The segment began as Joy Behar announced she "almost would vote for a Republican." That Republican is Texas Congressman and presidential hopeful Ron Paul. Her reasoning is that Ron Paul suggested in a recent presidential debate that the United States invited the September 11 attacks. Joy felt Congressman Paul was "right on the money." For good measure, Behar also ranted against Giuliani for daring to speak out against the "blame America first" rhetoric.
BEHAR: We need to look at what we do from the perspective of what would happen if somebody else did it to us. [Applause] That’s--All he's saying, all he’s saying is instead of just being a knee jerk like Rudy Giuliani, and you know Rudy Giuliani is not the only one who can respond to 9/11, excuse me.
HASSELBECK: But he's the one who did.
BEHAR: He happened to be there. So were we. We were all there also. The point is that there are other people in the country, including Ron Paul, who have another way of looking at Middle Eastern policy and we should be listening to those people too.
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Yet another pinhead who hasn'
May 17, 2007 - 14:39 ET by BruzillaYet another pinhead who hasn't heard that the ever increasing number of "innocent Iraqis killed" is a made-up number. Why is it so hard for these policy wannabes to check their facts before opening their mouths?
Way to go Paul! You've got O'Donnell and Behar giving you endorsements! You're guaranteed to won now.
Havent you all seen the blob.
May 17, 2007 - 19:49 ET by Brownback for PrezHavent you all seen the blob. The more you talk about it and the more you fight it the BIGGER AND STRONGER ITS GETS. You have created the Rosie Frankenstein. Silence is golden in fighting rosie.
Otay Brer RabbitSupreme Court
May 17, 2007 - 19:54 ET byOtay Brer Rabbit
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Yes, who cares about fighting
May 17, 2007 - 22:31 ET by Brownback for PrezYes, who cares about fighting terrorists when we need conservatives on the bench BOTG
You obviously have not heard
May 17, 2007 - 22:43 ET byYou obviously have not heard Uncle Remus, Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby? I was agreeing with you ----you dolt!
Further; Supreme Court, National Security, what is it about English you don't capish?
Two strikes on one pitch an amazing feat
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
This country has gone very ve
May 17, 2007 - 14:47 ET by bigtimerThis country has gone very very sick...the only way I know to cure it is with some strong medicine...unfortunately the only medicine I think will cure this sickness is another horrific strike, which may be coming soon from the so-called non-terrorists, they are just biding their time...the enemy within is aiding and abetting them that is for sure.
I’ve said it before….that
May 17, 2007 - 14:51 ET by JimboI’ve said it before….that is the desire of the terrorists and the liberals. If there is another attack here (and I pray every night that there wont be), the liberals will jump on it to say “Look! The War on Terror doesn’t work!” Elect a Democrat! These people (liberals and terrorists) have absolutely no morals.
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
Jimbo,I agree and by the way
May 17, 2007 - 15:18 ET by bigtimerJimbo,
I agree and by the way I do not want another attack here either, but they left are stopping any new laws and updated use of the FISA law for one example...that was just for hard lines when it was created in 1978 I think it was, if we had completely closed our borders right after 9/11 until it was completely over-hauled and sealed, which would of passed overwhelmingly back then, if more of the conservatives would learn to speak up and fight back I wouldn't be so worried.
I am so sick of people like Rosie's ilk screeching about USA bad...terrorists good....it's all our fault all the time.
Something has to wake up this country...
IMHO.
only one thing can wake up this country
May 18, 2007 - 12:49 ET by Iconoclast421the truth. the simple, obvious, plain, truth. If someone hijacks a jet and crashes it, what can you do? Only one thing really. Secure the cockpit doors on all the remaining jets. That's it. That's all that can be done. Everything else is just bs and posturing and demagoguery. Now look what should have been done and what has been done. Even today, it is still possible for a whacko with a boxcutter to hijack a jet and crash it. What does that say to you?
simplistic suggestion, Iconoclast...
May 18, 2007 - 13:10 ET by RJ"what can you do?"
Well, YOUR suggesion is simplistic. It could be uselessly followed for nearly anything. Snipers, rapists, child abductors...the list is endless. Aggressive attempts to prevent the thing from happening again aren't likely to stop it every time, but it's so much better than your suggestion of cowering in fear.
But, oops, there's that darned inconvenient fact that there have been no successful terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 9/11.....and there's that darned inconvenient fact that the intented attack on a U.S. military installation was stopped. I could go on, but you get the picture....on the other hand, you probably don't.....
THAT MEDICINE, if you listen
May 17, 2007 - 19:50 ET by Brownback for PrezTHAT MEDICINE, if you listen to the GOP PRES candidates, IS TORTURE. .....AND THE HOME OF THE BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE
strong medicine?
May 18, 2007 - 12:42 ET by Iconoclast421let me guess, it wouldn't happen to involve the use of gas chambers now would it? Come out and admit it, you'll probably feel better about it!
Stupid comment Iconoclast
May 18, 2007 - 12:46 ET by RJStupid comment, Iconoclast, that tells more about you than anything else.
O'Donnell: "I believe ev
May 17, 2007 - 14:47 ET by mattmO'Donnell: "I believe every human life is equal" What's her position on abortion, I wonder.
Very good point mattm. I docu
May 17, 2007 - 14:50 ET by Justin McCarthyVery good point mattm. I documented what she said about abortion here
Former Surgeon General C. E
May 17, 2007 - 14:59 ET by motherbeltFormer Surgeon General C. Everett Koop said that there was NO instance in which a partial birth abortion was a medical necessity. A famous abortionist (will post his name when I remember it, I think it begins with an H if that rings a memory bell for anyone) said that most of the PBA's done were at the mother's request and on a healthy mother and baby. He also rejected the premise that if the mother's health were at risk, one could just complete the delivery, saying that the point was not to deliver the baby, it was to abort it.
Edit: the man's name is Dr. Martin Haskell and he routinely did PBA's after 20 weeks. And he said this: And I'll be quite frank: most of my abortions are elective in that 20-24 week range. . . . In my particular case, probably 20% [of this procedure] are for genetic reasons. And the other 80% are purely elective.
Also, in testimony before Congress, it was noted that rather than "fewer than 2000" PBA's in the whole country, 1500 a year were done in New Jersey alone.
That's all I'll say in this thread, it's off the original topic, and can be dealt with in another thread another time.
Wonder why she doesn't get it
May 17, 2007 - 15:03 ET by terrigThis lame brain has no respect for anyone in the womb but does for the terrorists? How long would her and "Mommy Kelly" be living if the terrorists took over? Not very long. What a ridiculous fool her and Behar are. The only sad thing is that these people have no idea just how stupid they are. I don't watch this waste of time as even if I have to clean my bathroom, it's much more interesting then listening to these fools.
I know this is a target-ric
May 17, 2007 - 14:52 ET by motherbeltI know this is a target-rich environment...so many stupid statements, so little time. But did anyone else pick up on Rosie's beef with the US that
"We're invading a sovereign nation, occupying a country against the U.N."?
I'm assuming she means without the sanction of the UN. So I guess in Rosie's mind, the UN is the Supreme Ruler of the World.
Most libs would prefer a worl
May 17, 2007 - 15:00 ET by gib4ksuMost libs would prefer a world-wide socialist society run by the UN. The UN as a governing body would be pathetic. Just look at the list of countries on the Human Rights Commission. What a joke.
"Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan
the price of intractability
May 18, 2007 - 13:05 ET by Iconoclast421I would disagree with your "most libs" statement. But even if it were true, you should be very worried because after 6+ years of intractable one-party rule, the backlash is going to be so big that we're going to have another 6+ years of intractable one-party rule. And yes it will probably end with a (ostensible) UN control of some sort, complete with a global tax and all that other juicy stuff. If you want to blame someone for that, blame yourself. There's a price to be paid for all the lies, distortions, and disinfo the GOP-apologists have put out over the years. Even the headline of this thread is complete disinfo...
My goodness, Iconoclast
May 18, 2007 - 13:22 ET by RJMy goodness, Iconoclast. What a strange, surrealistic, world you live in. You don't believe that the media is leftist and that it distorts in favor of the left? And conservatives will be responsible if the UN takes over? hehehehe. Obviously, reading for comprehension is not one of your favorite activities. If it were, you couldn't possibly make that kind of statement. ;^>
Not only that, but we aren't
May 17, 2007 - 15:10 ET by mattmNot only that, but we aren't "invading a nation," we freed it from the Madass Insane regime. Now, after three elections, the Iraqi people have their own government, which is under attack by Al Qaeda and other state-sponsored terrorists.
We are Liberators trying to defend two recently liberated nations! It's the islamofascist terrorists who are the invaders! Rosie's equation of our military and our President to those murderous thugs is despicable and treasonous.
Same ol' mattm
May 17, 2007 - 16:33 ET by acumenI had this same argument with my moonbat liberal brother yesterday, mattm. I posed the question in the form of; "We had a truce with Iraq after we ran Saddam out of Kuwait. Saddam decidedly, time and time again broke the truce. So what would you do?" He couldn't answer the question and got really, really mad screaming insults about my lack of diplomatic credentials. I suggested they were just as impeccable as his (neither one of us have any such background), however; at least I had an answer. Now leading up to his rage, I kept imploring him not to go there - so many other topics to discuss, why keep going back to Bush and Iraq, it will only lead to an argument (been there, done that). But his hate got the best of him and he kept going which led to my question at which point he predictably went ballistic. I suggested he calm down - no reason to get upset with his own flesh and blood over ideological differences. But he would have none of it - This lotus-pondering buddhist, self-proclaimed peacenik brother of mine started oozing hate and stormed out of the house. I guess with the dreaded BDS disease, Bush-hate trumps brotherly love. I was soooooo tempted to inform him how much he sounded like Rosie, but I was afraid he would take that as a compliment. And these hateful moonbats want to objectively provide my national security?
LOL acumen
May 17, 2007 - 18:59 ET by SportPoliticsLOL acumen. Good thing you were in your house.
WhichWing gave full support to the Al Qaeda network in his "why do they hate us" thread.
We're in big trouble, because it seems like the elite demo leadership is just as stupid, and believes Osama is the righteous one fighting the big evil occupying corporate oil and opression machine, as the libbodems claim they are doing here.
Probably, our only saving grace will be - even in their darkest hate America moments, the democrud leadership will have two second thoughts : 1. I'm stealing like a drunken thief all I can, so maybe binny is as dirty as I am ... I like him, but I can't really entirely trust him 2. If we bail , the sob is probably going to find it easier to blow DC sky high in a ground glassing nuclear mushroom cloud, so for now, no matter what we say publicly, we'll go along with military recommendations, while trying to get some diplomatic strings in to talk to him, to discuss that ceasefire he offered before Deibold stole the presidency for Bush.
lol - It doesn't look very pretty folks.
I wonder
May 17, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Mr. BishopI wonder how Rosie felt when Bill Clinton ordered the invasion of Kosovo... The UN was expressly against that as well. Clinton had far less allies in that conflict then Bush for Iraq... I just am really curious how she reacted to Clinton's war...
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
""I don’t think
May 17, 2007 - 15:14 ET by ckc1227""I don’t think you should use the word terrorist.""
For once, Rosie, you're partly right: you DON'T think.
I think I'm going to start ca
May 17, 2007 - 15:15 ET by Hero SquadI think I'm going to start calling terrorists Sweet Peas. Can't think of anything they would find more insulting than that.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Let's be completely honest
May 17, 2007 - 15:34 ET by ckc1227Let's be completely honest here for second. This woman(Rosie) is so stupid, there needs to be a new word created just to define how stupid she is.
Rosified."There are tw
May 17, 2007 - 15:35 ET by MightyMouthRosified.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
"BEHAR: All he's saying,
May 17, 2007 - 15:40 ET by Gothampc"BEHAR: All he's saying, all he’s saying is instead of just being a knee jerk like Rudy Giuliani, and you know Rudy Giuliani is not the only one who can respond to 9/11, excuse me. He happened to be there. So were we. We were all there also. "
I knew Behar was stupid, but wow!!! To minimize what Guiliani did on 9/11 is to show what an ungrateful disgusting cow she really is.
"655,000 Iraqi civilians
May 17, 2007 - 16:23 ET by PSOS"655,000 Iraqi civilians are dead. Who are the terrorists?"
Two points: 1. The number she cites is from The Lancet survey, which was proven to use unreliable sampling. 2. O'Donnell is just repeating the media-inspired fallacy that attributes all Iraqi deaths to American forces. As Hasselbeck points out, most Iraqis are being killed by other Iraqis. U.S. Forces, far from roaming the desert indiscriminately slaughtering man, woman, and child as O'Donnell apparently imagines, are the sole heroes in an ugly chaos. The Iraqis killed by U.S. soldiers are, by and large, terrorists. Almost every kill by American soldiers makes Iraq a little safer. The overwhelming majority of civilian deaths are caused by the Islamofascists themselves. This is why the terrorists have been so successful in Iraq: They know that no matter what atrocity they commit, the U.S. will be blamed. If they blow up a mosque and dishonor their own religion, it's Bush's fault; if they brutally murder civilians, that's Bush's fault too. The terrorists know very well that all these horrible acts simply get lumped into one big statistic by the media and laid at the president's feet.
unreliable sampling
May 18, 2007 - 12:40 ET by Iconoclast421how exactly was it an unreliable sampling? because it wasn't taken from a state of denial? Show me some facts. Tell me how the lancet survey's methodology unreliable compared to previous methodologies which were based on media reports and morgue body counts? Do you really expect people to believe that every dead body in Iraq made its way into a morgue or was reported by someone?
Or do you just not care?
btw that number is old, a better estimate for May '07 would be around 700k ~ 1 million
And one other thing, what you said about Iraqis killing Iraqis not being "our fault" even though they weren't killing each other like this 10 or even 5 years ago... well that's just miopic. Whose fault is it that they just all the sudden started killing each other? Oh it must have been al qiada!
How cool, Iconoclast
May 18, 2007 - 12:56 ET by RJ"state of denial?" How cool. Got any more?
But, hey, you like the Lancet figure of 650 k? Explain, then, the 450 daily deaths it would require. oops, wait, it's now 700K to 1 million? How many is that, daily?
500
May 18, 2007 - 13:30 ET by Iconoclast421that's pretty easy. Take the typical daily death toll of 50~75 and then consider that what we know is only about 15% of what is really happening. Which means that we dont know 85% of what is really going on over there. I have no trouble believing that, considering how little anyone knows of what is going on even in our own country. But that is a totally unscientific number. Regardless, you must accept that it is logical to believe that at least half of the deaths over there go totally unreported. Right? Which puts us at at least 100~150 per day. That's 200,000 right there. Assuming 50% go unreported. We dont really know what that number is, until we actually take the time to ask them what's going on, by conducting a careful survey. And that's what they did, and another survey using the same methodology would yield similar results. Iraq is more akin to a disaster zone, and the methods for determining casualties require those used after a natural disaster or genocide, such as Rwanda. That same methodology was not disputed for Rwanda. Curious how it is all the sudden disputed for Iraq. My point is these are not totally off the wall numbers. It is not at all illogical to believe we only know about 15% of the dying that is occuring over there.
Iconoclast, you are the real deal
May 18, 2007 - 13:43 ET by RJIconoclast, we joke about Kool-aid drinkers, but you are the real deal. You justify your ridiculous figures by claiming that we only know about 15% of the deaths? Hey, why not just toss out any figure you like....say 5%? Then you could raise your numbers even higher.
Amazing. You live in a surreal fantasy world that allows you to make up whatever you want.....
Tell me how the lancet surv
May 18, 2007 - 13:00 ET by Jack BauerSure, we're all your slaves. Here's an idea: look up the copious analysis which discredits the lefty Lancet's methodology yerself.
Lazy git..
reading this rant by rosie makes me think of this scripture
May 17, 2007 - 16:39 ET by LilyPearl655,000 dead Iraqis? Did Ro
May 17, 2007 - 16:40 ET by Trix Rabbit655,000 dead Iraqis? Did Rosie O'Dumbass have personal access to the morgues to arrive at that figure?
These ghouls like O'Dumbass, Behar, Maher, and Moore must be caged so that our nation's top neurologists can study perhaps the most interesting cases of mental degeneration in history. (h/t to General Emilio Mola)
Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell
Rosie O'Dumbass.....LMAO!!!
May 17, 2007 - 19:27 ET by motherbeltRosie O'Dumbass.....LMAO!!!
If I was on that show inste
May 17, 2007 - 17:34 ET by BenderIf I was on that show instead of that airhead Hasselbeck, this is what I would have said.
Rosie: blah blah blah. 655,000 dead.. America is a terrorist.. blah blah blah.
Me: With all due respect to college drop-outs in the world. Rosie, I really don't think you are in the intellectual position to make judgments about what exactly is happening in the world.
Lets be realistic, your educational background is lacking. You could possibly be deemed an expert in drunk driving (self-admitted) or how to become obese (obvious) but not geopolitical theory.
I respect your God given right to your opinion but your opinion is as valid from a logic and factual standpoint as child's viewpoint on the world. Utterly lacking in reality.
Your figure of 655,000 Iraqi dead is from a debunked report which you failed to research.
Your assertion that 655,000 Iraqi dead is the sole responsibility of the United States is bizarre as if US troops are wantonly killing civilians by the townfull on a daily basis despite the lack of any evidence.
You are mentally unbalanced by your own admission. You live on anti-depressants and other psychotropic medications to get through the day.
You could not manage a normal relationship with a man and chose to have an alternative lifestyle. Which is fine in this politically correct world.
However, you did not have the courage of your convictions to proudly assert your 'life choice' and cowardly hid for years behind the facade of being a normal mom while you were on the "Rosie" show. Who can forget your over-the-top Tom Cruise fantasies to give the impression that you were heterosexual.
You lied to yourself and you lied to your audience and fans.
Now, unhappy with your body, your life, and your millions of dollars in income, you chose to lash out at the 'terrorist' country that afforded you those luxuries.
How about having an opposing view point on the View to give some balance to your claims?
I bet you won't do it.
JMHO
Beautiful Bender....just grea
May 17, 2007 - 17:41 ET by bigtimerBeautiful Bender....just great.
Talk about the outrage in the msm if that happened.
I'd also throw in.... plus you hang upside down for so-called self-improvement.
RosieFacts.com ???
May 17, 2007 - 17:43 ET by LionKingThis is just an off-handed question...how do you guys know so much about Rosie?
[Scary]
LK...I only do from Newsbuste
May 17, 2007 - 17:46 ET by bigtimerLK...
I only do from Newsbuster's...never once have I watched her shows.
Not my fault the information is on here all the time.
LOL!
bt...Rosie makes me ill
May 17, 2007 - 17:50 ET by LionKingI can barely stomach any of the stories about her crap. She is so wrong and ...well, I could go on and on. I just do not care to know or remember this stuff.
See...now I have to get drunk tonight so I can forget all this Rosie junk that has infested my mind...just kidding.
Keep it real.
Oh Lion King I agree with you
May 17, 2007 - 17:59 ET by bigtimerOh Lion King I agree with you about her.
A few of us begged for only having to hear about her once in awhile here...but... well, we lost....LOL.
So I go with the flow now and then...depending on my mood that is.
Have a good one, think I am going to go water and enjoy a cold beer myself.
I would like to know where th
May 17, 2007 - 17:38 ET by ZoneDaiatlasI would like to know where that fat bitch get 665,000 dead Iraqis from other then some left wing website... Last time I check it was about 50,000 and 90% of that is done by Insurgents or Terrorists...
"I would like to know
May 17, 2007 - 17:50 ET by ckc1227"I would like to know where that fat bitch get
665,000 dead Iraqis from other then some left wing website... Last
time I check it was about 50,000 and 90% of that is done by Insurgents
or Terrorists..."
I think it's pretty obvious where it came from: someone's imagination. Even the mighty UN she is so beholden to disagrees with those numbers.
OKAY!!! UNCLE!!!! UNCLE!!!!!
May 17, 2007 - 18:01 ET by drillanwrOKAY!!! UNCLE!!!! UNCLE!!!!! U-U-UNCLE!!!
I could sit here and roll out another jab, slug, kick, and bludgeon to this pompus village idiot, yet again, with facts (and all of you are doing quite well without me) but I'm done. I am now convinced Rosie only says things to get on this site.
I shall now treat her as if she were the vegged-out loone siting in the far corner of the insane asylum peeing her pants while finger painting on the wall with her own ... (you know what). "What's the frequency, Kennith?"
I'm sorry, my dear fellow brilliant newsbuster posters, but I now join the ranks of those petitioning for "No More Rosie" updates on here ... That is, unless, she claims she has been taken by aliens (non-Mexican ones), "examined", and has been impregnated by their leader with the antichrist ... and they have shown only her, Rosie, how to melt steel with fire.
K?
Ok ... `sall right.
That being said, would Elizabeth at least haul out a lap top onto the stage desk so she can tap into the FACTS whenever Rosie or Joy slobber forth their "Gollum! ... Gollums!!" of misinformation and out and out lies, seeing as Liz can't seem to RETAIN any of the facts to counter these two whales with??!!
ME TOO !!!
May 17, 2007 - 18:06 ET by LionKingI really do not feel that Rosie updates fit the mandate of this site. I do not consider The View as part of the media, although, sadly, too many Americans and even more anti-Americans get their facts from this cesspool.
I believe we actually aid and abet that dreaful waste of air space.
No more Rosie!!! No more from The View!!!
Oh, if it were only that si
May 17, 2007 - 18:37 ET by BenderOh, if it were only that simple.
Many mushheads sitting at home folding laundry get their viewpoints handed to them from these talk shows.
We know they are not reading newspapers and with CNN, MSNBC, ABC,etc's news ratings we know they are not watching those programs.
So, many of the sheep get their fancy talking points from listening to mental midgets like Rosie.
Don't believe me?
Many of the Padilla jury were unsure of who caused 9/11? A simple fact which seems too complex to sink in for many ordinary citizens called to judge this terrorist.
Power of Media: Many Potential Padilla Jurors Unsure Who Caused 9-11
http://newsbusters.o...
Or who can forget the little gem from a few days ago?
Rasmussen Poll: 35% of Democrats Think Bush Behind 9/11Yes, people like Rosie are for the lack of a better term "media" for many and she shapes their opinion.
I think Elisabeth's only hope is going
May 17, 2007 - 19:31 ET by SportPoliticsI think Elisabeth's only hope is going off on her and screaming louder than Rosey, and interrupting her, and calling her a terrorist supporter and every other thing she is.
Elisabeth has 3 wackos opposing her, and the fat sow mamma has the OWNER's permission to rule the roost, who is sitting right there.
It appears to be a " Trump" situation for Elisabeth every day of the week, and if she did what Roset does, she would be " You're Fired !"
When she was on H & C - she argued and destroyed Hannity and Colmes both, and was extremely articulate and correct. She is not as dumb or as uninformed as you may think. But then who couldn't sitting here instead of not between the 2 hogs and the boss in front of the entire elite lib audience, and after the fact, not do so much better ?
Elizabeth is doing better.
May 17, 2007 - 21:03 ET by dahliatraversElizabeth is doing better. She stuck with her "do you believe in terrorism" question until she got an answer out of Rosie. I hope she doesn't do what you outline, SportP. She's much more effective staying calm and persisting on the important points. Screaming and bullying doesn't make you right.
But what am I saying. Exhibit A is the subject of this post.
lol
May 17, 2007 - 20:56 ET by dahliatraverslol
All the best quotes and comeb
May 17, 2007 - 19:56 ET by ArchConservativeAll the best quotes and comebacks have already been said. Please G-d, make Ann Coulter the replacement on that show...ohhh please. Hasselbeck is the worst one to have in a debate. She might as well be thin air.
HEY HEY HO HO TOKYO ROSIE HAS GOT TO GO!!!
"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
- President George W Bush September 2001 speech to a joint session of Congress.
You are right. That show does
May 17, 2007 - 20:01 ET by Gat New YorkYou are right. That show does not have a competant oppsing voice to Tokyo Rose (fitting). Her facts are wrong which means she listens too much to Barry O'Bama. But to call our soldiers terrorists, at what point does her a$$ get driven off the airwaves and out of this country which she hates so much.
It's not "blame Americ
May 17, 2007 - 20:00 ET by sarcasmoIt's not "blame America first" to say a policy has failed, and that a decade of provocations (mostly under Clinton, you know) gave Osama a bunch of suicide recruits. Thank Heaven for YouTube, the media can't be entirely controlled on these issues anymore. Ron Paul violated the rules & told the truth. Ronald Reagan had the courage to change course in Lebanon, and I'm hoping we can change courses in Iraq. Trade leads to peace, not war.
JMR
Ugh. George W. Bush is not
May 17, 2007 - 22:25 ET by TexasOptimistUgh.
George W. Bush is not a full-fledged conservative, but I still support his presidency. I'd rather have him as president than ANY of the Democrats.
Merry Christmas 2007.
"Ron Paul violated the
May 18, 2007 - 01:00 ET by ckc1227"Ron Paul violated the rules & told the truth."
Ron Paul is an idiot. He should stick to hanging with the 9/11 trufer crowd, and leave the political debates to big boys.
Gotta love these extensive
May 18, 2007 - 02:39 ET by sarcasmoGotta love these extensive and logical responses....
JMR
And along the same "in
May 18, 2007 - 02:57 ET by sarcasmoAnd along the same "intellectual" lines, the top of "Editor's Picks" on a site that's REPEATEDLY whined and moaned, over and over, about "decency" in media -- to the point of that windbag Brent Bozell spending MY taxes testifying at the FCC to try to get rid of MY favorite radio show -- is "Why I'd never vote for Ron Paul (WuzzaDem)" so I click on over to take a look, and what's the first thing that greets me? "This guy, who is attempting to flash his nuts..." Ah, another case of "decency for thee, but not for me" from the social-conservative side. Won't work, fellers. See my 3 links above for why I've lapsed into sarcasm & ridicule...I'd get back to debate, if y'all ever would first...
JMR
Wahhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhh they tr
May 18, 2007 - 05:29 ET by ArchConservativeWahhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhh they tried to get rid of my favorite show. Booooo Hoooo
With my taxes. And failed.
May 18, 2007 - 05:56 ET by sarcasmoWith my taxes. And failed. Spectacularly. Impotent try, though.
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Ok it's not blame America fir
May 18, 2007 - 05:28 ET by ArchConservativeOk it's not blame America first, it's blame America every time. It is not a failed policy. There have been election after election and the people there want a government that finally speaks for them, not against them.
Ron Paul did not tell the truth. He's nothing more than an apologist like yourself who loathes the country he lives in and cowers every day thinking that the US is one of the worst countries on the globe. But Ron Paul, like yourself, never bothers to understand the real issues behind this war so you slovenly read your NY Times or watch MsNBC and nod your head to Keith Olbermann.
I love Ronald Reagan but one of the worst mistakes he ever made was to retreat from Lebanon. We should have launched a massive retaliation but we didn't. That would have shown them right then and there that they couldn't kill our Marines and walk away with smiles on their faces.
Changing course in Iraq is to lose. You want another Vietnam but the troops on the ground (and I was one) know that this is war is 180 degrees different...except for the left and the (d)emocrats wanting to micromanage the war from 6000 miles away.
Trade leads to peace is about the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted and I'm sure you are a regular contributor to the HuffPo or the Kos. Peace comes through strength. I'm sure you're definition of peace means that we are not at war but that is not the world we live in or have ever lived in. Each generation faces evil and it's how we deal with it that matters. Peace is the lack of a threat against you.
Go ahead and say that it's America's fault or that Bush caused 9/11 or that the administration was in on it. We here at the NewsBusters have a big tent for people like you, too.
Since you like to link to lots of articles, here's one you need to read: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010080
"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
- President George W Bush September 2001 speech to a joint session of Congress.
Saying I loathe this countr
May 18, 2007 - 06:09 ET by sarcasmoSaying I loathe this country invalidates the rest of your argument immediately, it's not even worth reading IMO. Your dimwitted allegation about "HuffPo" and "Kos" is also wrong, but quite imaginative. And Dr. Paul served this country in the Air Force as a flight surgeon. To say that Clinton didn't spend a decade bombing Iraq from Saudi Arabia is to deny reality, and if you think that (along with our policy of support for Saudi dictators Bin Laden's absolutely-right about all the way back to the installation of a dictator in Iran in the '50s!) did not help Osama's 9/11 recruiting you're nuts. It's not anti-American to admit a policy has failed, or else Ronald Reagan -- who did just that in the face of suicidal nutcases in Lebanon -- "cut and ran." When will we understand that US policy -- especially after 8 years of Clinton's humiliating but militarily-irrelevant provocations, and after the 9/11 report itself said it -- might have something to do with the motivations of these nuts. They DON'T do these things because they "hate freedom."
JMR
My saying you loathe the US d
May 18, 2007 - 10:44 ET by ArchConservativeMy saying you loathe the US does not invalidate anything I said. You just don't want to hear the truth.
I don't care if Dr. Paul served in the Air Force. Carter served in the Armed Forces but he's about the worst president we ever elected.
And I didn't say it was anti-American to say that a policy is a failure. But it is anti-American to say 9/11 was our fault and that we have to understand the terrorists. I also stated that the policy in the GWOT was/is NOT a failure (and I have seen it first hand) in either Afghanistan or Iraq. You believe it is a failure because you for some reason, do not want us to succeed so you close your eyes to truths that are evident.
You keep citing the 9/11 report which was in itself flawed. It is not the Bible of what happened or what led up to it. How about Jamie Gorelick and the Wall that was erected so that different agencies couldn't talk to each other. She was on the panel so do you think that it was in the report? No. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004956
I will agree with you that Clinton let the 1st attack on the Trade Towers slide and that was a HUGE mistake. He pulled out of Somalia and that was a HUGE mistake. That was the event that OBL referred to as the moment when he knew that he could kill us and we wouldn't put up a fight for long.
But for you to say that they don't hate freedom? Was the Taliban about freedom? Is Al-Queda about love and freedom? They are about repression and total subservience. Get your head out of the sand sarcasmo. They don't want to negotiate terms of a peace. They don't want to talk about what they want to happen. They are willing, able and ready (and have shown it around the world) to kill themselves and innocent others to get those governments to bend to their will.
Although reading your posts does give me a good chuckle. You're hilarious!
"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
- President George W Bush September 2001 speech to a joint session of Congress.
No, I repeat, you're a dimw
May 20, 2007 - 05:51 ET by sarcasmoNo, I repeat, you're a dimwit. I'll now explain why, and cover the things you didn't in your moronic response, point-by-point.
1. The fact that you don't care if someone served our country speaks volumes about your character & patriotism, so it's ironic when you claim your lying claim about me when you don't know crap about me or my life.
2. Ron Paul (and I) never said 9/11 was "our fault," but stupid bipartisan policies did make Osama's recruiting easier, as I keep saying to no logical rejoinder. You people have spent the years since 9/11 arguing Clinton's policies caused it, now you want to deny the same thing when my side points it out, and you can't have it both ways with sarcasmo around, as others here have also found, and you're discovering...
3. Jamie Gorelic's being on the 9/11 committee isn't Ron Paul's fault, it's the Republican "leadership's" fault, and it's irrelevant anyway because she's not the author of the part of the report I'm referencing. If you think the 9/11 report was flawed on the issue of what led to 9/11, say how & why in a coherent way. Otherwise, STFU or at least admit that Rudy hasn't read the thing, since he apparently hasn't.
4. Islamofascists don't kill themselves because they "hate freedom," that's not a good selling point if you want someone -- even someone who's not all-there -- to go kill himself for you. Impotent and useless halfway military measures used by the other side work much better for motivation of young, dead-end males, along with the behavior of a Saudi dictatorship our nation stupidly-supports while claiming elsewhere to be "for" democracy.
5. You also have yet to admit it, but as with my patriotism, you're also full of crap about me posting on Huffpost and you're full of crap about me posting on Kos. You've never admitted it, because you knew it was true, but I'm hereby admitting you're full of crap for you, dimwit...
JMR
Now that the fat pervert co
May 17, 2007 - 20:10 ET by kevcadNow that the fat pervert cow is leaving, I wish Hasselbeck would just find more of her voice and just it let loose. Afterall, Tokyo Rosie won't be around for very much longer.
Has anyone else noticed that
May 17, 2007 - 23:14 ET by Quidnunc SavantHas anyone else noticed that when the The View first came on about 10 years ago it was quickly followed by the introduction of Viagra..
A coincidence, I think not
"Go f*#& yourself , I say what I want." Oriana Fallaci
Iraq
May 18, 2007 - 08:18 ET by pbanks7OK O'Dumbass,
Saddam invaded two sovereign nations. The second time, we told him to leave or we'd kick his butt. He didn't leave, so we kicked his butt in the "mother of all battles." We said we'd stop kicking his butt if he agreed to certain conditions. He agreed. He reneged.
We said, straighten up or we'll kick your butt again. He responded by targeting and/or shooting at our jets almost every week. So we kicked his butt again. So in case your ears are too clogged with blubber to hear, I'll repeat - he. was. shooting. at. our. planes.
Therefore, we had every right to kick his butt again, because he was violating the armistice, against US treaty.
...occupying a country against the U.N. What clause? What resolution? Where is the Official Condemnation of the US? If there was, you'd produce it.
To paraphrase Chevy Chase, "Rosie, you ignorant sl*t!"
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
We spent about a decade hum
May 18, 2007 - 08:38 ET by sarcasmoWe spent about a decade humiliating Saddam before kicking his butt again, when it would have been easier and cheaper -- if we really wanted our former employee dead -- just to kill Saddam. The idea that this kind of thing has nothing to do with how easy it was for Osama to recruit young religious nuts for a suicide mission astounds me -- it's as if Clinton and the UN are taken completely off the hook IMO.
JMR
As far as the MSM is concerne
May 18, 2007 - 08:40 ET by JimboAs far as the MSM is concerned, Clinton was never even on the hook!
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
And Rudy, apparently, but n
May 18, 2007 - 08:43 ET by sarcasmoAnd Rudy, apparently, but nobody-else seems to see that particular obviousity...
JMR
Huh?
May 18, 2007 - 08:50 ET by JimboHuh?
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
Connect the dots. He seems
May 18, 2007 - 08:58 ET by sarcasmoConnect the dots. He seems to think Clinton's actions made Osama's recruiting no-easier, despite the plain words of the 9/11 report, and the media's going along with Rudy's weird idea hook, line, and sinker. (Thank God For YouTube!)
JMR
Cloaking device engaged...JMR
May 18, 2007 - 12:46 ET by sarcasmoCloaking device engaged...
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