TV News Political Editor: ‘How Come We’re Not Hearing More [Iraq War] Protest Songs?’

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It goes without question that the San Francisco Bay Area is infamous for its extreme liberal views. Having lived here for 28 years, I know this to be a fact that most residents consider a badge of honor.

Sadly, in the middle of this leftist motif is KTVU’s “Ten O’Clock News,” an award-winning program that often is so liberally biased that it’s unwatchable.

Such was certainly the case Wednesday evening when the station’s political editor, and eight-time Emmy Award winner, Randy Shandobil, featured an antiwar segment asking the question:

We’re now in the fifth year of the war in Iraq, and if the polls are accurate, it’s even more unpopular than Vietnam. So how come we’re not hearing more protest songs?

Amazing, wouldn’t you agree? Alas, it got worse as Shandobil then spoke with the music director of Berkeley’s KALX who blamed the lack of protest songs on the absence of a draft (video available here):

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 We’re still going to protests. If it’s not on the radio, that doesn’t mean it’s not in our thoughts.”

How delightful. Next up on the antiwar hit parade was a trip down memory lane, as a video of Country Joe and the Fish “leading hundreds of thousands of people at Woodstock in an antiwar sing-along” was aired.

Shandobil followed: "Country Joe believes there’s actually more political songwriting today than 30 years ago, but it’s in punk and hiphop."

To prove the point, a video was shown by a band called “Immortal Technique” with words on the screen stating that “bin Laden didn’t blow up the projects, it was U, tell the Truth. Down knocked Bush. Pledge no Allegiance.” Shandobil responded to the video by carping, “But most of it is not on the radio.”

Yes, Randy. What America needs is more songs on the radio suggesting that President Bush is blowing up projects around the country.

Next, Shandobil interviewed Dave Morey, a local DJ spinning rock tunes in the Bay Area for decades. His conclusion was that the lack of a focused antiwar message in music today is due to the broader array of musical genres acting to “splinter” voices and subject matter.

However, the most insulting statement was the following from Shandobil:

Some artists say another reason things are different now is that in the years leading up to Vietnam there was no 9/11 event. No surge of pro-government patriotism.

This level of historical ignorance suggests Shandobil was born after the Cuban missile crisis, and the assassination of JFK. Sadly, there must be another explanation, for Shandobil has been working for KTVU since 1978 making it unlikely his lack of knowledge is caused by his youth.

Regardless, Shandobil continued:

After 9/11, some national station groups even banned some political songs. And artists who spoke out against the war – remember the Dixie Chicks – sometimes suffered a backlash.

A video of Bright Eyes on the “Tonight” Show singing the following was then featured: “When the president talks to God, are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women’s rights and send poor farm kids off to die?”

How charming. After this was presented, KALX’s music director stated that as a result of the uproar from such performances, most antiwar songs are now only found on the Internet or alternative stations. Shandobil continued:

Neil Young recently tried to crack through, but few stations played it. Perhaps the biggest exception, the most commercially successful antiwar music, Green Day. (Video of Green Day.)

Shandobil concluded with questions:

The media’s fault? The artists? A splintered music scene? Too controversial? Whatever the reason, overtly political music like this (video of John Lennon’s “Happy Christmas (War is Over) just isn’t heard much anymore.

Of course, Randy seemed to miss the following obvious conclusion: who needs antiwar messages on the radio when news personalities such as himself are broadcasting such views 24 hours a day, seven days a week?

As a post facto aside, I wanted to share part of Shandobil's bio from the KTVU website (emphasis added):

KTVU Political Editor Randy Shandobil is one of the most respected political reporters in broadcast journalism. In March 2005 a national panel of judges unanimously selected Shandobil for the Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Television Political Journalism for his coverage of the 2004 presidential campaign. It is the second consecutive Cronkite Award for Shandobil. He also won in 2003 for his coverage of the 2002 California Governor’s race.

Shandobil has also won eight Emmy Awards, Gold and Bronze Medals at the New York International Film and Television Festival, the Freedom of Information Award from the Society of Professional Journalists, and the California Journalism Award for excellence in political reporting four times, most recently in 2003.

As you can see, much like Pulitzer prizes for journalists, this kind of liberal reporting by the television news media is what earns one commendations by one's peers.

Isn't that special?

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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I would attribute some of the

I would attribute some of the cause to the common (and obviously accurate) public perception that hippies suck.

They stink too because they d

They stink too because they don't bathe regularly.

I think your answer is more accurate than mine! :-)

"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt

What a huge media idiot bias

What a huge media idiot bias. Couple of things. The soldiers required - and the deaths sustained - in Vietnam vs Iraq is such a gigantic difference - and the actual percentage of the population then vs now - that this is one of the MOST OBVIOUS things that would easily be determined as the major factor of the difference.

It clearly is the reason the balkans war was raging on with 20,000 of our troops there - and the media didn't even report it - heck when they were SCREAMING about the USA handing the government back to Iraq, they quietly blipped that the governments in the Balkans were finally getting back some sort of local control - and the UN and UNFOR or whatever group they called it was finally handing things backover...

 I believe we still have 5,000 troops there, and there's a 20,000 troop "peacekeeper" OCCUPATION there NOW, but heck, why report about OCCUPATION of SLICK WILLIES WAR ? Is there a SIZE difference you IDIOTS ?

Ok, next thing I noticed... the hippy groups were singing of the Pearly Gates, and other GOD centered religious things - just imagine the antiwar people trying that today ... Try this " God and Christianity - OUT " - since of course the Evil Bush invoked Jesus as his favored philosopher.

Next we have the WAY the protesters protest nowadays - see DIXIE CHICKS,.,. BACK THEN - the big cry was "the establishment" because GUESS WHY ? It was a damned libbo-DEMOCRAT WAR - try SLAMMING the $**t out of JFK - back then.... or LBJ...

 So today - the war movement has a REAL PROBLEM - it has opened itself up to PURE PARTISAN RANTING and HATRED of GWB - that it could not get away with back THEN... - because it would have meant viscously attacking a democrat.... so it covered up it's massive biases, and drew in more people that way.

So, how the HELL - does some jackass news show not even have a basic sense of what the hell to compare ?

The ONLY possible answer is MASSIVE BIAS TO THE LEFT. I note his idiot nearly 5 minute report "couldn't figure it out" - so he spent untold time and some money and never even found an answer for himself - of course, since just the simple truth above is APPARENT - he must have been in between brain farts on the job.

 They also whined about CLEAR CHANNEL...another attack on "the evil right wing controllers". PEOPLE DON'T BUY IT.

PS - I forgot - there's also this war thing going on in Afghanistan - so I guess give peace a chance forgets whole entire nations with raging wars running....and the news doesn't even report on them, except maybe once a month.

Sport, you've got to e-mail t

Sport, you've got to e-mail this to the "reporter" - It kicks!

I think he had it right early

I think he had it right early on...there is no draft. That's why.

And amazingly (or not) that's why people like Rangle are pushing for a draft...to make the war more unpopular especially with the people that would be forced to go fight it.

"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt

Draft

Having been in HS and college in the late-60s through mid-70s, I'd agree that the lack of a draft is the big difference. The prime music-buying group (pre-teens through early 20s) is generally not going to focus on anti-war themes unless they'll be directly affected.

The other big difference is that despite the intense coverage, the number of troops in the war are about 1/4 of Vietnam at its height (in a country with about 50% more people), and the death toll is well below 10% of Vietnam's.

Tom - you hit it square on th

Tom - you hit it square on the head. The other thing is that the music industry dynamics are far different now than they were 30 - 40 years ago. It was easy to make money (it was about making money) by selling vinyl LPs and promote them on a few AM radio stations. Today music is digital, is sourced through either CD's or on-line outlets, and there are far more radio stations now than their were then. But ultimately it was what you said - there is no market.

Okay, if they want a draft, l

Okay, if they want a draft, let's give them a draft. But, to be fair, we would draft such that an equal number of liberals and conservatives serve in the armed forces. Since most of the men and women now serving are conservative (since liberals want to take from, not give to the country), the draft would essentially just force liberals into service. Hmmm, I guess the guy is right; we don't have protest songs because we aren't drafting liberals..... 

No RINOs in '08 - Vote for a true conservative!

My draft proposals...High Sch

My draft proposals...

High School dropout: Once you hit 18, you're in for 2 years.

High School grad: After graduation, you're in for two years.

College Student: After 2 years of schooling or after graduation (your choice), you're in for 2 years.

Everyone (male/female, rich/poor, legal immigrants/naturalized and local-born) will have their chance to serve a minimum of 2 years. For those unable to go to the frontlines due to physical limitations (?), there's always a place for that behind the desk. Oh by the way, religious affiliation is not an excuse. Mandatory for all illegal aliens, after immersion class. If you're strong enough to cross miles of desert, you're strong enough to be in the military. If you like it, might as well finish it til 20 years.  From then on, every political candidate will have a military credential- a mandatory requirement.

If this is what the democracks and leftoid wants, then they'll get it...and they can even write a song about it!

I'd grant full citizenship to

I'd grant full citizenship to any illegal immigrant willing to step up and serve in our Armed Forces for four years. Otherwise, go back from whence you came and try to enter our country legally.

*****

"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

Let me add: Hollywierd bimbos

Let me add:

Hollywierd bimbos as in Hilton, Spears, Lohan, et al.: No rehab and jail time. Send them to boot camp and to the front lines.

Yep, my children are already "drafted" at their tender age. 

Absolutely, the draft is fine

Absolutely, the draft is fine and dandy when the media is on the same side as America.  But truely I believe in market forces, and if the cause is important...people will join willingly and fight better than those who are there because if they aren't they go to jail.

Maybe we can get Fitty-cent to help?

 He can write a rap about all "dem rag-heads shootin' up da niggas and da ho's in dem burkas..."

Naah....on second thought, it wouldn't work.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

c5, Did I say, after English

c5,

Did I say, after English immersion class- before they can be drafted and write a song about it...You're hilarious, man. You're rappin'.

There is no protest music bec

There is no protest music because Simon would kick the performer off American Idol before they got to the bridge.

Good stuff, Noel.

Good stuff, Noel.

1. The music industry is mu

1. The music industry is much more corporate now. Huge conglomerates don't want their stupid music division causing waves for everyone else.

2. Dixie Chicks. Not many artists are willing to go through all of that.

I disagree. There is no such

I disagree. There is no such thing as bad publicity. You think Tupac's family and record label would agree with you? A rapper only sells more cd's after he/she gets arrested. Even better if and when one gets shot.

As for the Dixie Chicks, they obviously had their elbow firmly on the pulse of country music fans. Not many artists are not as dumb as the Chicks, and/or have managers and handlers who are smarter than the Dixie Chicks'.

It all ties back into the "hippies suck" theory. People just don't want to go back to the tie-dyed, stinky, barefoot, unemployed dirtbag 1960's again.

True, no such thing as bad

True, no such thing as bad publicity, but with so many more outrages resulting in boycotts, advertiser pull out, it's riskier. A letter-writing campaign can be organized in the blink of an eye.

And as I think someone else said, without a draft, the same amount of tragedy isn't inherent in this war as with Vietnam. The people in Iraq are there because they want to be there...except of course for those who had their tours of duty lengthened. :-)

Could it be too, that a lot o

Could it be too, that a lot of the music nowadays sucks really bad... back in the late sixties early to mid 70's you had CCR, Jimi Hendrix, Buffalo Springfield, Bob Dylan, Neil Young etc. who were all at the hey day of their artisitic careers... look at Neil Young now he hasn't written a good song since Harvest Moon and wasn't that the late 80's... all this and because of there being No Draft....

Check out my blog at: http://preacherskid.blogdrive.com/

I was trying to think who w

I was trying to think who would do protest songs. John Mayer? Not likely. P Diddy? No.

Where are all those angry grunge dudes? This would be right up their alley I would think. Pearl Jam especially.

There is some current protest

There is some current protest music outh there, but most of it's just annoying, weak and largely unlistenable. Listen to the best music of this type the 60s and 70s, and it's message tends to be artistic, subtle and clever. So even if you disagreed with the content, you weren't wholesale turned off by it. "For What It's Worth" is a great example of this.

These days, artists seem to lack much creativity and choose to be blantant in their hatred of George Bush. Neil Young would've never written a song as banal as "Impeach the President" back in the 60s. "American Idiot?" Oh so very clever, Green Day.

I guess it'll be interesting to see what the nimrods in Rage Against the Machine come up with in their reunion.

(Anyone wish to join my counterprotest band, Rage Against Rage Against the Machine?)

seth - Harvest Moon was a great early 90s album! Neil Young has had some decent stuff here and there since then... his post-911 song "Let's Roll" was particularly strong. Shame he fell off the wagon after that.

*****

"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

RATM (a band I always liked)

RATM (a band I always liked) might be now one of the few true protest bands out there. Green Day kept popping into my head, but, honestly, what teenager can really take seriously a band consisting of rich guys in their mid-30's?

Let's face it. Today's music sucks. There really has not been a major innovation of music in the last decade. I mean, we've gone through folk rock, stadium rock, 20 genres of heavy metal, new wave, disco, punk/hardcore, grunge, hip-hop, mainstream country, etc, etc, etc.

What have we today? Poor excuses for college radio, bad Hootie and the Blowfish soundalikes, 3rd-rate ripoffs of 90's grunge bands, and pseudo-metal emo crap.

I've got your back on drums/p

(Anyone wish to join my counterprotest band, Rage Against Rage Against the Machine?)

I've got your back on drums/percussion/heavy artillery!

"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt

Good point, Bal. We are very

Good point, Bal. We are very close in agreement here. I chuckled when I thought about what if Kurt Cobain was still alive today. He'd be a burnt-out, half-insane, washed-up rock star, like Axl Rose or Eddie Van Halen.

As for Pearl Jam, they are another band whose better days are long behnid them. Their 2006 album, the pathetic-named Pearl Jam, has only sold 1.5 million, and 2002's Riot Act barely sold 500,000 copies. A far cry from Ten's 10 million copies...

I even cannot consider U2 to be a "protest band" since they have been so "poppy" since 1987 onward.

Yeah, U2 is not angry enough

Yeah, U2 is not angry enough for a war protest song, really. Darfur is more up their alley. Same thing with Sting; he's really not a war protest song guy. Rain forest, apartheid, that's his milieu. Songs like "They Dance Alone".

The real reason -lol

[It all ties back into the "hippies suck" theory. People just don't want to go back to the tie-dyed, stinky, barefoot, unemployed dirtbag 1960's again.]

Yes, that's why those very same people are the crybaby reporters who make these 5 minute shrine whines to their glory days,and can't understand what the problem is.

 Also, there's some new "aberration" going on in hippydom. Maybe I should call it "hippy evolution".

As you likely noted, the little punkster hip clown that runs Berkley's tunage coil, and also has his own band, and walks down the "gigantic halls of albums" ( the spot the ex-hippy reporter was drooling over ) to grab one from the top shelf said :

 " Just because it's not on the radio doesn't mean it's not in our heads "

ROFLMAO - Can you even begin to IMAGINE the true horror that very statement elicited in the old left wing vanguard?

LOL !!!!!!

 The hippies have created a monster....

There have been afew subtle p

There have been afew subtle protesting type songs.  More of a cheer the left sort of thing though.  John Mayer etc..  Mostly I think the thread above is correct, no talent losers in and around the recording industry.  The entire music industry has changed for the worse.

The answer my friend is blowi

The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind...

There's no draft, and no chance that the singers will have to trade their guitars for machine guns or their dope for C-Rations, so they don't care...

...or leave their AMERICAN WO

...or leave their AMERICAN WOMAN....

Maybe "Proud Mary"

Maybe "Proud Mary" or "Amazing Grace"... take your pick, might not be able to see your family again. Or, write another song, after English immersion class.

My tribute to Lennon -- whe

My tribute to Lennon -- when he was dead good man, before he went mental with a fatal dose on Onoism....

Imagine there's no liberals
It's easy if you try
No lefties below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for themselves...

Imagine there's no socialists
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no commies too
Imagine all the people
Living life individually...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine there's no Clintons
Kennedys or Pelosies too
No need for lying Democrats
A brotherhood of free men
Imagine all the people
Working for themselves...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live freely as one

SEDITION THE MISSION
Nancy Reid (D-Feat)

Jack...Bravo!If only it were

Jack...

Bravo!

If only it were so...what a wonderful world

Thanks friend...loved it! 

How Come We’re Not


How Come We’re Not Hearing More [Iraq War] Protest Songs?

Maybe it's because they're aren't many people who would find the loss of about four thousand Americans and the belief in a meaningful future of about 14 million people living in Iraq something to laugh or sing about

Uh oh....  easy folks!Jimbo

Uh oh....  easy folks!

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"

Just had to throw this one in

Just had to throw this one in there...

Without recognizing the ordinances of Heaven, it is impossible to be a superior man. - Confucious