The sudden death of Rev. Jerry Falwell on Tuesday marked not just the passing of a television evangelist, but of a historic conservative leader and regular cable TV pundit. The mainstream media developed a strong distaste for him because he entered the political arena and helped establish a stronger conservative movement. For reporters, he was the definition of the far right, someone whose support made a Republican unacceptable, and any Republican who attacked him (like John McCain in 2000) quickly became a media hero. The Washington Post infamously described him as leading a flock that was "largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command." Here's a selection of "Notable Quotables" capturing their attitudes:
2006
"In 2000, John McCain ran for President as a different kind of politician....Straight talk included taking on powerful Christian conservatives like Jerry Falwell, whom he called an ‘agent of intolerance.’....McCain is [now] trying to repair relations with the religious right.... For McCain, doing so could jeopardize his reputation for being a different kind of politician." — Reporter Dan Harris on ABC’s World News Tonight, April 14.
2001
"Any decision that leaves Jerry Falwell feeling pleased and happy is a decision that you need to be skeptical about, and he was very happy with this decision." -- Time magazine national correspondent Jack White discussing President Bush’s compromise position on federal embryonic stem-cell research on Inside Washington, August 11.
2000
"George W. is one thing, but as long as the Republican Party -- you noted some of them -- is populated by the Pat Buchanans, the Jesse Helmses, the Jerry Falwells, the Bob Barrs, don't blacks have a right to be suspicious?" -- CBS's Bryant Gumbel to a panel of black men, August 2 The Early Show.
Dan Rather: "One issue that is sure to come up in the fall campaign that has already surfaced is Bush cozying up to the self-described religious right, including the Reverends Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell."
Richard Schlesinger: "....Pollsters and pundits and politicians like to describe the primary season as a search for the soul of a party. Now the question is: Did George Bush sell his soul to the wrong group?" -- March 13 CBS Evening News.
1998
"Goldwater was always honest, even when honesty didn't pay. My appreciation of Goldwater came in his and my later years when he called on Nixon to resign and when he said that Reagan was either a liar or incompetent for not knowing about Iran-Contra. He told the party to let abortion alone and to quote 'boot Jerry Falwell in the ass,' closed quote. He summed up gays in the military brilliantly. 'You don't have to be straight to shoot straight.' You don't get more honest than that."-- Time's Margaret Carlson, May 30 CNN Capital Gang.
"Sen. John Ashcroft of Missouri, an astringent and abstemious conservative, lambasted his fellow Republicans for their ‘sin by silence,’ and others started talking as well. The White House loves the exposure — for the other side: Starr, televangelist Jerry Falwell, Internet gossip columnist Matt Drudge and assorted Republicans, among them Jesse Helms, Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott. To Clintonites, it seemed a usefully geeky crowd. ‘They resemble a crew out of The Addams Family,’ one White House spin doctor said, happily, ‘with names by Charles Dickens.’" — Washington reporter Howard Fineman in Newsweek, February 9.
1997
NBC's Tom Brokaw: "The Promise Keepers and their charismatic leader have drawn plenty of attention over the years -- not all of it positive. In fact, some women's groups feel that Promise Keepers, their warm and fuzzy ideology, is a mask for something more sinister..."
Jim Avila: "...and as their fundamentalist doctrines become better known, donations are dropping and rally attendance falling....Critics say there is more dangerous doctrine in the Promise Keepers agenda that to some looks more right wing than religious. Bill McCartney spoke at anti-abortion rallies, calls homosexuality a sin, and his group has received money and support from Jerry Falwell, the Christian Coalition, and Pat Robertson....As the Promise Keepers face their biggest weekend ever, they're finding that returning to a world where man has the final word will take more than a promise and a prayer." -- Nightly News, September 30.
1994
"Preachers often mix religion and politics. In recent years, this temptation has arisen most prominently on the right, you know -- Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and those guys with celestial phones to God's ear. Back in 1992, after the hard-shell Republican convention in Houston, and humiliating defeat of President Bush, it looked like the religious right's influence might be waning. Not so...These righteous rightists are sure to be a major force in the fall election...Voters are blessed with common sense and free will. They customarily reject extremes of either the left, or the right." -- Former ABC Washington Bureau Chief George Watson in a commentary on the overnight newscast World News Now, June 23.
1993
"Corporations pay public relations firms millions of dollars to contrive the kind of grass-roots response that Falwell or Pat Robertson can galvanize in a televised sermon. Their followers are largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command."-- Washington Post reporter Michael Weisskopf, February 1.
"An article yesterday characterized followers of television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as `largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command.' There is no factual basis for that statement." -- Post corrections box, next day.
1988
"Do you think it's a cosmetic change, what the Republicans are trying to do down here in New Orleans, forget about the evangelical look, the extremists, the Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, but change the whole cosmetics of the conservative right?" -- Question from CBS This Morning co-host Kathleen Sullivan to Dukakis campaign chairman Paul Brountas, August 17.
John McLaughlin: "What do you think of [Nicaraguan communist dictator Daniel] Ortega's implicit endorsement of Michael Dukakis this week?"
Jack Germond: "George Bush has the endorsement of Jerry Falwell. I think it's a trade-off."
-- exchange on The McLaughlin Group, August 13.
MRC President Brent Bozell honored Falwell’s memory in a press release Tuesday:
"Rev. Jerry Falwell gave his heart and soul to his family, his faith and his country. This is obvious when one looks at the decades of work he completed to grow his ministry, nurture his university, and advance the conservative movement throughout the culture and in politics.
"Rev. Falwell was a great leader who helped organize grassroots conservatives across America, and who was instrumental in the presidential election of Ronald Reagan. His inspiring presence and moral insight will be greatly missed."
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center



















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When you die, what your com
May 16, 2007 - 06:20 ET by sarcasmoWhen you die, what your comrades say is predictable and boring. Here's a very nice thing Jerry's single biggest foe in life, Hustler publisher Larry Flynt, said; and IMO he's right -- that case protected parody permanently under the First Amendment. It was an immensely-important (and, for once, good) legal result in the stinking manure-field of Supreme Court first amendment "jurisprudence."
JMR
Timing
May 16, 2007 - 06:47 ET by NortoBeliever
I agreed with most of what Falwell believed and said(that is what my moniker stands for), but it seems I remember his timing was rather poor. Even if he had waited a few days or a week to suggest certain calamities were of God's making, they would not have stung so badly. Even natural events are of God's making.
Maybe the media goaded him, but then, it is good to remember that even sinners like me have feelings. I know where I am going if I die today, that came to my heart over 10 years ago. Only He knows my heart and only He knew Jerry's. I pray we meet again on the other side.
Norto,That was very well said
May 16, 2007 - 07:30 ET by msh1973Norto,
That was very well said.
Would that case have had a di
May 16, 2007 - 07:41 ET by AlgerHissWould that case have had a different outcome if Falwell's Mother, rather then him, had sued Flynt?
I don't think Falwell would have given a lawsuit a second thought if his Mother had been left out of it.
If you enter the public arena and become a public figure, your entire family is now in play?
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
Hi AlgerHiss,I just noticed y
May 16, 2007 - 08:05 ET byHi AlgerHiss,
I just noticed your signature, "Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City."
I live just outside of Rochester, New York, and one of the colleges here goes over-board with classes that zero in on women. (Susan B. Anthony is from here.)
As a woman, I am of the mind set that when society feels the need to zero in on a group of people (in this case women), it is actually saying that the group is less, and therefore needs special attention. Many people make this same mistake with an oldest child in the house. Inadvertently, it tells the oldest child that he/she has cause to worry.
Women are different than men, and I like that. The fem-movement has hurt women more than helped. As for a woman getting paid well? If she does the job well and works for a good place, she will get paid well. If she doesn't, then she should move on to another place of employment. Why would anyone want to work, where they are not wanted?
Debra...
Debra, Rochester Minnesota ha
May 16, 2007 - 12:17 ET by AlgerHissDebra, Rochester Minnesota has evolved into an absolutely abhorrent place for anyone with half a brain to live.
They now have just about exclusive, female, hard-left government representation that is supported by elitist, snobbish medical types from the vaunted Mayo clinic. The newspaper, for years, agitated for hard left policy, and they now have it.
Real males have become a rarity in that town. The sick, mind-numbing, Scandinavian socialism that this city prides itself on, just about castrates all males at birth. I mean, their mayor (a male) collects freaking' teddy bears, for God’s sake. That awful clinic will probably soon be wagging its finger in your face if you’re not wearing a walking helmet.
If you’re someone that desires to be breast-fed each morning, and your little bummy wiped each day by the good elected females, then by all means, move to Rochester, Minnesota.
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
ick..... That sounds really a
May 16, 2007 - 12:25 ET byick..... That sounds really awful.... :(
Debra, here is one more of th
May 17, 2007 - 09:58 ET by AlgerHissDebra, here is one more of those tiny little ingredients that when added all together, make my point. This is a letter to the editor at the Rochester Post Bulletin. This is the link, but I'll paste the pertinent part of the letter here as sometimes these links go dead:
Hurray for Butterflies and hard work 5/16/2007 7:33:16 AM
An opponent's mom calls "it" disgusting. I call "it" fun. "It" being "Butterflies" -- the unusual name of the boys' age 17 Rochester Youth Soccer Association (RYSA) team....
This is what I mean: A boy's athletic team named the Butterflies?
Stuff like this in that town makes me vomit.
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
AlgerHiss
May 17, 2007 - 10:06 ET by SportPoliticsThey float like a butterfly and skip and kick with glee ?
rofl
Was he really the leader of &
May 16, 2007 - 08:00 ET byWas he really the leader of "Promise Keepers?" That really is not a good organization. This is the first that I've heard a connection between him and Promise Keepers. Just curious, as I know little to nothing about the gentleman.
Debra...
Debra, here is the mission
May 16, 2007 - 08:10 ET by MightyMouthDebra, here is the mission statement of promise keepers, why is it not a good organization? Of particular interest are the "Core Values" and "Statement of Faith" links.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I know what Promise Keepers i
May 16, 2007 - 08:12 ET byI know what Promise Keepers is, MM. And I know things that most do not know. I was just curious, if the man who just died, was really the head of it?
Debra...
Curious
May 16, 2007 - 08:42 ET by cvgbuckeyeDebra:
Just curious about "promise keepers not really a good organization" and "I know a lot about that organization". Please cite 5 or 6 bad things about "that organization" (of course with some sort of corroborating examples). On 2nd thought, just one will do.
He was never the Head of PK
May 16, 2007 - 08:50 ET by MightyMouthHe was never the Head of PK, but he did support it. Is this "some of the things that most do not know" about PK? I am not an apologist (or memeber) of PK so I couldn't really discuss them with much authority.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM, that's completely unfai
May 16, 2007 - 09:41 ET by The Wicked ConservativeMM, that's completely unfair to use the NAGs to condemn the PKs. I'm not a PK but I am a thinker and if an organization wants to restore men to their biblical role in life, I am sure a "level-headed" group like NOW is going to try to tear them down.
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Talk sense to a
liberal and he calls you a racist, sexist, biggot, homophobe, denier.
WC,NAGs?? Why would a bunch
May 16, 2007 - 09:53 ET by MightyMouthWC,
NAGs?? Why would a bunch of computer nerds condemn the PKs? I would think the PKs. could kick their pocket protected rear ends? Hell, NOW could probably do the job.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
NAG = National Association
May 16, 2007 - 09:58 ET by The Wicked ConservativeNAG = National Association of Gals = NOW, but spoken with comtempt for them. The article you linked was from the National Organization of Women. Hardly an unbiased group. If you were kidding, sorry I missed it.
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Talk sense to a
liberal and he calls you a racist, sexist, biggot, homophobe, denier.
You missed it! :-) And so d
May 16, 2007 - 10:03 ET by MightyMouthYou missed it! :-) And so did I (NAG) hahaha!!!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Debra dearest,You aren't abo
May 16, 2007 - 09:10 ET by Dave RDebra dearest,
You aren't about to tell us that PK members are all going to Hell, are you?
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-Neal Boortz.
DaveR,ROFLMAO!
May 16, 2007 - 09:28 ET by bigtimerDaveR,
ROFLMAO!
What? What I say???hehe...No,
May 16, 2007 - 12:05 ET byWhat? What I say???
hehe...
No, but seriously, Promise Keepers is owned by the same people who own "WomenOfFaith.com," Thomas Nelson, Inc. And that is owned by HarperCollins (owned by Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox) which also owns the North American rights to the NIV. ---Rupert Murdoch is a huge porn producer.
Both Promise Keepers and "WomenofFaith" are all about selling books, as are the producers of the NIV. The entire reason for the NIV ever being written was to sell books. (Doctor Phill’s wife has a book that his highly promoted on “WomenofFaith.com.” And if you want to know what Dr. Phill and his wife are all about, click here. --They are just fine with porn.)
The writers of the NIV knew that the Bible (The REAL Bible) is the best seller of all times, so they wrote one of their own --a fake one.
There is also a huge issue with a very bad book, called "The Masculine Journey" that was given out to men at Promise Keeper Meetings.
Debra...
"Both Promise Keepers
May 16, 2007 - 12:14 ET by MightyMouth"Both Promise Keepers and "WomenofFaith" are all about selling books,"
But Debra, what about the ACTUAL "promise keepers", the rank and file guys who joined and don't give a squat about the money trail to Murdoch. All they care about is "keeping promises". Surely those promise keepers aren't the "bad ones" you speak of.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM, What has darkness in comm
May 16, 2007 - 12:21 ET byMM,
What has darkness in common with light? It is written that we (true believers) are to come out and be separate.
They should know what they are a part of and remove themselves from it.
I am not saying that people working for Fox should quit. Fox, in-and-of-itself does not portray itself as a Christian organization. But Promise Keepers does.
We are told in 1st Corinthians, chapter 5, that if a man calls himself a brother and is living in sin, that we are not to even dine with him. (The key there is that he calls himself a brother (a believer.)
Debra...
Did you research your churc
May 16, 2007 - 12:28 ET by MightyMouthDid you research your church in this manner before you joined? Did you for example, check the history of the Pastor and deacons to make sure none of them were: Divorced, drunks, womanizers, wife abusers, in trouble with the law etc. etc. <name the sin that would preclude holding church office>.
Did you check the financial history of your church before you joined to make sure everything has always been above board and no appearance of evil has ever blemished it's reputation? If not, I doubt you should criticize the rank and file promise keepers for not doing the same.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Oh grow up, MM. Your post did
May 16, 2007 - 19:09 ET byOh grow up, MM. Your post did not even come close...
denial
May 16, 2007 - 19:21 ET by RJMM's post was obvious to me.....
What's that saying......"as plain as the nose on your face?"
RJ,More of the moralistic mor
May 16, 2007 - 19:25 ET by BlondeRJ,
More of the moralistic mores (moree's???)
Holier than thou is more than tiresome, yes?
Yes, Blonde
May 16, 2007 - 19:42 ET by RJTiresome, yes! But I think egomania plays a large part.
RJ,I'm sticking with "ho
May 16, 2007 - 19:45 ET by BlondeRJ,
I'm sticking with "holier than thou".
My least favorite type of person in the world.
Sheesh....no wonder conservatives have such a bad rap.
We have to defend it from the left, and defend it from the right by the likes of Deb. Tiring, tiresome, whatever. Gee, why do I suspect I am tired?
Here's something interesting for you, Blonde
May 16, 2007 - 19:58 ET by RJWell, here's something interesting for you, Blonde. Guaranteed to get your blood moving.
If you recall, Tumbler was sucking up to Mobius last night. Well he followed that with a major suck-up to Leon today. It was pretty funny. Poor old Tumbles is looking for company, methinks. ;^>
Speaking of Tumbles and Debra, have you seen the thread yet where she says 9/11 is God's punishment? It's titled "ABC radio....something." She made the claim and Tumbles agreed and then he went off on a filthy rant about it not being a big deal because it's NYC. You have to read it.....
So RJ you care when Deb says
May 17, 2007 - 08:18 ET by LeonSo RJ you care when Deb says that 9/11 was God's punishment, but you don't care when Falwell says it?
interesting.
What a typically silly post, leon
May 17, 2007 - 10:08 ET by RJWhat a typically silly post, leon. Have you seen me defend that statement from Falwell?
because liberals are also amo
May 16, 2007 - 19:59 ET by Conservative Voicebecause liberals are also among the holier than thou...their religion is socialism. That is why talking to Debra is like talking to the other Pharasee trolls.
A Pharasee back in the day of Christ were the keepers of the law, they defined what was correct and what was evil. A troll is a person who doesn't listen, but keeps using propaganda to "further" their agenda, often in a disruptive manner.
especially when you spit on a
May 16, 2007 - 19:44 ET by Conservative Voiceespecially when you spit on a dead man.
Now Debra, you opened the d
May 16, 2007 - 19:24 ET by MightyMouthNow Debra, you opened the door to this in part by stating:
"Promise Keepers is owned by the same people who own "WomenOfFaith.com,..." blah blah blah.
Then you dismissed them as not being a Christian ogranization, carring that distinction down to the rank and file. I am merely saying that there may be plenty of Promise Keepers (maybe some in your church) that are there for the reasons that are listed in their seven promises. What could possibly be wrong with that?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Deb's got a real handle on t
May 16, 2007 - 19:27 ET by tracheostomyDeb's got a real handle on this whole "guilt by association" thing. In fact her site has tons more where this came from. I feel sorry for her kids when they get married.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
MM, I would never be part of
May 17, 2007 - 08:16 ET byMM,
I would never be part of something that called itself Christian, and was actually owned by a porn producer.
How easy is that for an answer?
Now, I realize that many people have books under HarperCollins’s many sub-names, but this is not a case of that. Those two organizations are owned by Nelson Books, which is owned by HarperCollins, which is owned by a porn producer. And the two organizations are portrayed as Christian. ---Just as the North American rights to the NIV are "owned" by Zondervan, which is also owned by HarperCollins.
Many Christians work for FOX TV, but they should not be party to any shows that are put out by FOX that claim to be Christian. Fact is, many people work for companies who have perverts for owners, but do they participate in the company’s “faith-beliefs” program?
---Do you see now?
Debra...
Debra,First of all the NIV
May 17, 2007 - 08:45 ET by MightyMouthDebra,
First of all the NIV is another subject, but I would like to say that I have sung the words to the "the B- I- B- L- E" song, like this: "The 1611 AV yes thats the book for me, I stand alone on the Word of God, the 1611 AV!" :-) (ask me about my 1974 personal experience with Peter Ruckman sometime!).
Anyhow:
"---Do you see now?"
No I don't Debra, the promise keepers are
not responsible to "follow the money" up the chain to make sure they
are not "supporting" a porn producer. As I have said, the are only
interested in keeping promises. Now if the promise keepers had to buy
porn to be a promise keeper, then I can see your problem.
Most of these guys are just hard working dads, sons and grand dads. I am not defending PK as an organization. I am defending these guys, who were told (many by Jerry Falwell, many by their church) that PK is good thing to do. It's not up to me to tell them they are sinners for doing PK because some porn king is "maybe" making money off of PK. If I had to worry about that I doubt we as Christians could spend (or donate) any of our time and money!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Debra & the NIV
May 16, 2007 - 19:58 ET by Free StinkerDebra,
Are really saying the NIV translation is a "fake"?
I'm not sure I understand whaty you mean? Do you mean it's not actually an English Translation of the original Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic?
Hi Free Stinker, The NIV is n
May 17, 2007 - 08:20 ET byHi Free Stinker,
The NIV is not a true translation of the Bible. Those who put it out do not even make the claim that it is a translation. It is an interpretation. The book alters verses and leaves many verses totally out. The publishers of it simply wanted to make money off of the best seller of all times.
Debra...
Debra, NIV question
May 20, 2007 - 21:01 ET by Free StinkerDebra,
Do you have some examples?
That the liberal media and li
May 16, 2007 - 09:56 ET by Michael ChapmanThat the liberal media and liberal politicians hated Jerry Falwell so much and attacked him so relentlessly and dishonestly is proof plenty that Jerry Falwell was doing the right thing.
“If Chief Justice Warren an
May 16, 2007 - 13:12 ET by Leon“If Chief Justice Warren and his associates had known God’s word and had desired to do the Lord’s will, I am quite confident that the 1954 decision [Brown v. Board of Education] would never have been made…. The facilities should be separate. When God has drawn a line of distinction, we should not attempt to cross that line.”
- Jerry Falwell commenting on what he called, "the Civil Wrongs Movement"
Perhaps he's a media punching bag for saying outrageous things, such as the example I've posted above.