You haven't defended your first LIES and now you bring on more LIES.  Go back "JOE" and prove your first points before you bring up new ones.

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

I believe there were a few...let's see now, does Somalia ring a bell???  How about the barracks in Lebanon???? 

Evidence of the military being destroyed by Bush?

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

Joe C...time to change your moniker...it disgusts me!

Evidence of the military being destroyed by Bush?

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

No no no... you answer the questions asked of your already. You do that, with evidence, and I will answer every single question you just asked. Amazingly, my father was able to "leap frog" over other candidates to get his commission. Lord knows, he was not wealthy, or a child of anyone important. He did so through his intelligence. I know, I know... someone like you makes your hate filled existance possible, by calling Bush an idiot -- but any evidence to prove the Bush was simply "given" his commission, instead of earning it -- would be greatly appreciated.

"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"

Dude... lighten up..

mandrake -- thanks for the correction.

I was writing from what I thought was memory.. hang on while I do some research into something that happened 35 years ago in the life of a 2 term President who leaves office in 18 months...

Yes, I can't believe this is still an issue either!

UPDATE .. The President flew an F-102. The German Luftwaffe nicknamed the F-104 The Widowmaker. But a cursory search would indicate that a number of aircraft unofficially earned this nickname too, inclusing the F-101 Voodoo.

Apparently the F-102 had a fifty percent combat loss/crash rate throughout its lifetime. That sounds scary high to me.

UPDATE 2...

Just found this most excellent description of all fighter jets from the 1960s...

....my father flew F-104's in the same general era that Bush was a pilot, an aircraft often graced with such euphemisms as "lawn dart" and "widowmaker", to say nothing of the old adage of the easiest way to get your own Lockheed F-104 was to buy a field in Germany and wait. I've heard his stories and seen the photographs. I even have the surgical screw that held his ankle together after a turbine fire forced him to eject during a training maneuver.

Supersonic fighters of the era were, to put it mildly, deathtraps. They didn't have the fly by wire computers with the psychologically engineered computer voices telling you that if you'd rather not spray yourself all over the side of a mountain, it might be a good idea to pull up about now. No safety thresholds. No G warnings. No please- keep-turbine-from-exploding buzzers. Just dead, as often was the case, reckoning.

And, for the few of the mindless variety who think such reckoning is easy, I suggest removing the brakes from one's bicycle, taking it to the top of the steepest hill in the area, and barreling down it as fast as possible into a busy intersection. That'll give one a slight idea as to the realities of navigating a seat-of-the- pants fighter at Mach 2, and offer a comparable survival rate.

These aircraft were not easy to fly, in a nutshell; they required a degree of nerve few men possessed, and that alone didn't get one into the cockpit.

SEDITION THE MISSION

Nancy Reid (D-Feat)