In the wake of Don Imus’ firing for his remarks about the Rutgers women’s basketball team, what should happen to shock jocks that actually discuss violent sexual assaults on Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and First Lady Laura.
With that in mind, Breitbart TV reported that XM Satellite Radio’s Opie and Anthony had a guest on recently (date unknown) with whom such vulgar acts were happily and comically discussed (h/t Glenn Reynolds).
Readers are hereby cautioned that this is really disgraceful, obscene stuff. Enter at your own risk (audio available here).
This raises a few questions:
- What kind of backlash should Opie and Anthony expect
- Is this kind of behavior acceptable when the targets are Republicans
- Will media be as outraged as they were about Imus
- Will Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson intervene on Rice's behalf?
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What kind of backlash s
May 10, 2007 - 17:14 ET by Dave RThis republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-
Neal Boortz.
Just another example of the b
May 10, 2007 - 17:17 ET by atlasragingJust another example of the bigoted leftwing media not applying their standards to themselves. Hypocrisy and the leftwing are synomous. The best action to take is to boycott their product and their advertisers and let them know. The same standard should apply to all.
Opie & Anthony are NOT li
May 11, 2007 - 07:36 ET by LeonOpie & Anthony are NOT liberals. Not even close.
Do they believe in abortion
May 11, 2007 - 10:03 ET by MightyMouthDo they believe in abortion on demand?
Do they bash Bush and the Iraq war?
Do they bash Cheney and Rumsfield?
Do they make fun of conservatives (quess we know the answer to that!).
We are talking about O&A here? I had to stop listening because they got so crybaby liberal. BTW ,others here are right, they ain't funny!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
They're just not very funny.
May 11, 2007 - 10:07 ET by Roger the ShrubberThey're just not very funny. Who cares what the topic is. It doesn't matter if they bash a Conservative or a Liberal. They're just not funny.
Agreed. Horrible show.
May 11, 2007 - 10:13 ET by LeonAgreed. Horrible show.
Space Junk
May 11, 2007 - 10:16 ET by PawpawNWasn't there a story just a few days ago about "SPACE JUNK", that's what this show is!
This seems different to me than the Imus situation
May 10, 2007 - 17:19 ET by newkidontheblockWhat Opie and Anthony have allowed onto their program is clearly more vile and disturbing than what Imus said. Personally, I would encourage someone to cancel their XM subscription if they are uncomfortable financing this kind of nonsense. Will anyone in the media care that they said this? I doubt it. When they were on the public airwaves (I believe on Westwood One who also syndicated Imus) they got fired because they had sent a pair of their listeners to defile a catholic church.
In contrast to this incident, what Imus said was on the public airwaves and targeted people who aren't really in the public's eye the same way that Bush and Rice are. Also, I would never expect someone like Tim Russert or John Kerry to appear on the Opie and Anthony show, but both have appeared on Imus. In my opinion, it's really not news that Opie and Anthony are a pair of degenerates.
It's a free speech thing, b
May 10, 2007 - 18:07 ET by Night WatchmanIt's a free speech thing, boycott if you want. Laura and Condi are not
at risk because of what was said. This is not like yelling "fire" in a
theater. By contrast, what they did at St Pat's was criminal.
If you could ban O&A for this, it would soon trickle over to Rush and friends.
From what I've heard (on Ho
May 11, 2007 - 05:22 ET by sarcasmoFrom what I've heard (on Howard Stern, I don't listen to XM or Opie and Anthony) the O&A show is ratings-desperate enough that they actually simulcast on "free" (commercial-filled) FM radio at least some of the time. I don't know whether they said this during simulcast FCC-regulated time or during XM-time, where the FCC is merely licking its big-government lips over the idea of regulation, regardless of what they want to admit, but that would make a legal difference, IMO.
JMR
Opie and who?? "There
May 10, 2007 - 17:21 ET by MightyMouthOpie and who??
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Wow! I can't believe how many
May 11, 2007 - 05:20 ET by EcstasyOfGoldWow! I can't believe how many of you really are so caught up in political hatred that you can't see what really is at stake here. At any rate, if you listened to the show for any period of time you would know that Anthony and Jim Norton are pretty moderate/right leaning in there views. I'm sorry so many of you feel that OnA's humor is not your cup of tea. I find them hilarious and PAY good money every month to listen to the show. If they had said the same thing about that wack job Pelosi, most of you would feign outrage for 10 seconds and secretly indulge in a laugh in the privacy of your own home.
Freedom of Speech is designed to defend unpopular speech. Comedy/parody/satire should be protected with the same vigor as any political view. There is no constitutional right that says you are protected from being offended. Personally I can laugh at joke about rape, even though I find rape deplorable. In fact I think the more taboo and inappropriate a joke subject is, the funnier the joke becomes. Go rent “The Aristocrats”, if you don’t believe me. The more steps we take with this ridiculous censorship the closer we are to be coming to becoming…..well Canada.
Would anyone from the OnA show ever rape Condi, Laura, or any woman for that matter? Nope. Would the CRAZY HOMELESS MAN who actually made the comments about raping Condi actually do it? Well I don’t know about that but I doubt he’d ever get a chance. OnA should not even aplogize, political correctness is for assholes.
Free speech FTW!!!!!!!
What's really at stake here,
May 11, 2007 - 09:14 ET by GalvanicWhat's really at stake here, EoG, is social temperment. We certainly support freedom of speech, but we also must look at American society as a whole. Over the decades, we've been bombarded with 'taboo-busting' media that pushed the boundaries of civility and taste further and further out, and one doesn't have to be a prude to sense some level of concern if not disgust. Howard Stern and his radio progeny like Opie and Anthony like to portray themselves as champions of free speech and crushers of puritanism, when actually, they're little more than modern-day freak show ring masters making a quick buck.
While you, Opie, and Anthony find rape humorous, many, if not most of us, do not. You're laughing today, but I wonder if you would find Opie and Anthony funny if tomorrow, they made light of raping your mother or sister.
Should they be censored? Since the comments were made on satellite radio where subscribers determine what they want to hear, I say 'no.'
Should they be scorned? Sure. They are willing participants in the coarsening of our culture, and they don't care. Send them your money if you want, EoG, but to most of us, these losers and their adolescent humor aren't the least bit funny.
I honestly can't give your po
May 11, 2007 - 12:48 ET by EcstasyOfGoldI honestly can't give your post the attention it deserves right now. There is no way to make someone understand another person's sense of humor. But just because you don’t understand it, doesn't mean that it’s invalid or even inappropriate. My real point here is that most of the people in this thread and all over the internet don’t even care about Opie and Anthony. Something offensive was said and now all these people want to impose their sense of decency on the listeners of OnA. We have a war going on and all the media has to do is get a couple “Shock Jocks” fired??? Give me a break lets find some real issues to talk about.
Huh? EOG, that's a foolish statement
May 11, 2007 - 12:57 ET by RJHuh? "Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's invalid?" What kind of moral relativity BS is that? As long as someone thinks it's funny, there are no limits? Do you really believe that?
Say a young boy thinks it's "funny" to hear a tortured cat scream. Is that just a "different" sense of humor? Your position is without morals, logic, or values.
Uh, taint a "free spee
May 11, 2007 - 09:19 ET by MightyMouthUh, taint a "free speech" issue. I think Noel is pointing out the double standard by using the Imus comparison. For example, what if Rush had made rape jokes about Pelosi or Feinsteiin? The looney left and MSN would be asking for his head on a platter. And by the the way, the First Amendment restricts the government from passing laws that restrict speech. It has nothing to do with the consequences of speech in the free market.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Sorry sir, but the "free
May 11, 2007 - 12:30 ET by EcstasyOfGoldSorry sir, but the "free market" in not what is at work here. The majority of people who listen to OnA are not offended by said offense; those people are the intended market for the show, a tiny minority of people who receive power because of a media that tries to manufacture news by taking things out of context. If OnA get fired because of this then it shows how far we really are from a true free market. The truth is 99.9 percent of the people don’t give a damn about OnA, a theme that has been repeated over and over in this thread. So why all this pretend outrage? Because you saw a link and heard a 30 second clip of something offensive?
It amazes me how easily you “republicans” and “conservatives” are lead like sheep just as easily as bleeding heart tree hugging liberals.
Well Jesse Jackson and Al S
May 11, 2007 - 12:41 ET by MightyMouthWell Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not Imus listeners either, yet they influenced Imus' fate with the help of the MSM. Don't get me wrong, I for one, am not "outraged" by the jokes to the point that I think they should be fired. I think it was innapropriate just as Imus comment about "nappy headed hoes" was innapropriate. But I don't think Imus should have been fired either, time off and an apology yes, but fired no.
And a little advice, when you make rude generalizations like "you republicans" and "conservatives" you will find yourself quickly labeled as a TROLL!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I will call out you "rep
May 11, 2007 - 13:16 ET by EcstasyOfGoldI will call out you "republicans" and you "conservatives" with the same vigor and as I would call out "you democrats" and "liberals". Fact is nobody gets it right all the time and in this case I believe the "republicans and conservatives". You wanna talk about the war? Then I will say the "democrats" and "liberals" are freaking crazy for thinking we can pull out now without decimating that country and creating an even larger breeding ground for terrorists.
Point being just because I dont agree with you on this, does not mean I'm a troll. If I was a troll I would pay a little more attention to all the "you don't agree with me therefore you are uneducated" posts.
Whoa Tiger!! I was merely s
May 11, 2007 - 13:32 ET by MightyMouthWhoa Tiger!! I was merely suggesting you might want to tone it down a bit. Especially right out of the chute! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
The problem is, since you are
May 11, 2007 - 12:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe problem is, since you are actually stupid enough to pay money for the privilege to be infected with the "O&A virus", anything you post (on any topic) cannot be considered cogent.
Please make my day and tell me about your Carrot Top and Gallagher CD collection.
Offensive
May 11, 2007 - 12:46 ET by bigtimerEc,
Pretend outrage?
You must be kidding.
I consider saying things such as punching her in the face and raping the first Lady, Condi or any woman....
OFFENSIVE.
My problem with all of this, is if this was the other way around we would hear screams form the leftists...until they were gone.
XM or not.
EoG
May 11, 2007 - 13:02 ET by Noel SheppardEoG,
I think you're very much missing the point here. Let me try to explain my position on this, and one that is likely shared by most on the right.
Opie and Anthony have the right to say what they said. Furthermore, people have the right to listen to it if they so choose. This is an entertainment program, not a news program, and therefore content is at the sole discretion of those involved. As such, those that are offended should just change the channel, and, excuse my French, STFU.
However, there was a disturbing precedent set with Imus. Because he made statements that would have been completely acceptable if made by one race, and, in fact, are regularly made by that race, but for some strange reason, only members of that race are allowed to say such things, he was fired.
I didn't agree with the firing, and see this whole issue blowing up in all of our faces. Yet, with what transpired Wednesday on OnA, my question -- and the reason I wrote this article -- is whether such inflammatory comments about a black, female Republican will result in similar outrage.
If the answer is "No," then a further disgraceful precedent has been established, for it is now apparently okay for non-blacks to make such derogatory statements about a black female if she happens to be a Republican.
Do you believe the Founding Fathers would agree with such tinkering to the First Amendment?
I don't. ns
I hate to point this out, but
May 11, 2007 - 13:21 ET by EcstasyOfGoldI hate to point this out, but the homeless man they had on the show that made the comments was a black person. That how far out of context this has become. A crazy homeless guy they had on the show made the comments, thats why the bit was so funny, the guy came in and gave the world a piece of his crazy black homeless mind!
Did you really hate to point
May 11, 2007 - 13:27 ET by JimboDid you really hate to point that out?
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
EoG
May 11, 2007 - 13:33 ET by Noel SheppardEoG,
You are incorrect. From what I heard in the clip, both Opie and Anthony were participating, with rough transcript as follows:
As such, it is totally specious to point fingers exclusively at the homeless man. They were both quite involved in the discussion. This wasn't a speech by him, this was a discussion.
Prove me wrong. Please provide the transcript you're hearing. ns
That's exactly right, Noel.
May 11, 2007 - 14:09 ET by GalvanicThat's exactly right, Noel. Opie and/or Anthony were laughing at the image of Rice's face as she's raped by the homeless jerk. That's not funny; that's sick.
Should these guys be kicked off the satellite program? As EoG noted, few people give a damn about these two miscreants, so who cares? If there corporate boss feels pressure and tosses them out, so be it. If the boss sticks by them, so what? CBS apparently owns the satellite station that carries the show, and as we've seen in the past, it's as hypocritical as any MSM when it comes to content.
But I do find the labeling of the O&A rape sketch as 'comedy' rather tragic. No, maybe pathetic is the better word.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, EoG, if anyone substituted your mother or sister for Condoleeza Rice in the dialogue, would you find it funny?
The identity of the rape vi
May 12, 2007 - 18:11 ET by Rupert CadellThe identity of the rape victim, and her relation to the person analyzing this issue (such as EoG) is immaterial. It's called the affective fallacy. It's why we now laugh at overwrought death scenes in 18th century novels and "very special episodes" of Full House.
As to the so-called outrageous hypocrisy, most of the people whining about Imus were indeed retards and politically-correct assholes, but the fact that the Rutgers team did nothing to make themselves part of public discourse (ie, were private citizens) does hold some water as far as I'm concerned.
And, as I've said before, if you believe Imus was fired because his employer was such a bastion of racial sensitivity (as opposed to fiduciary, invisible hand issues), I got a bridge to sell ya, cheap.
I think EoG has a great handle on this issue, frankly. I can see why most of the NBers see it as hypocritical, but we can't pick and choose.
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
Ec,What part of the word hypo
May 11, 2007 - 14:24 ET by bigtimerEc,
What part of the word hypocrisy do you not understand.
If this was the other way around what in the world do you think would of happened...huh?
I already asked you that once...you have never have answered.
(I know that is what trolls do, or better yet, leftists everywhere, they just sit and spin)
I have tried to explain this as simply as I know how...
HYPOCRISY!
EcstacyOfGold, where, exactly, did you go to school?
May 11, 2007 - 09:31 ET by Dave RFreedom of Speech is designed to defend unpopular speech.
Bullsh*t. The 1st Amendment only protects you from government. It does not protect you from your employer, or from any other non-governmental entity from the consequences of your actions.
I do not know where you attended school, but if you actually had to pay for it, you might consider seeking a tuition refund.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-
Neal Boortz.
You start your post with a cu
May 11, 2007 - 12:35 ET by EcstasyOfGoldYou start your post with a curse and then make a personal attack? Why post if you have nothing to add to the coversation?
He added plenty. And by the
May 11, 2007 - 12:37 ET by JimboHe added plenty. And by the way - you are definitly entitled to a refund.
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
EcstacyOfGold,It's Frid
May 11, 2007 - 13:30 ET by Dave REcstacyOfGold,
It's Friday. I'm claiming editorial license here.
And since you are clearly a lib, please refrain from furthur insults to our intelligence by feigning offense at the use of the word bullsh*t.
I have spent way, way too much time around liberals, both in person and on their websites. I know better, as does most everyone here.
Besides, Noel says above that the use of French is permitted. :-)
BTW-I plucked this from one of your post's above. Apparently, cursing and personal attacks are okay, as long as it is you who is delivering them:
The truth is 99.9 percent of the people don’t give a damn about
OnA, ........
It amazes me how
easily you “republicans” and “conservatives” are lead like sheep just
as easily as bleeding heart tree hugging liberals.
And for future reference, I am not a Republican.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-
Neal Boortz.
You had me until you said you
May 11, 2007 - 09:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberYou had me until you said you found them hilarious and actually pay money to listen to them. They make for something to listen to when other radio stations are airing commercials. Jim Norton is the only thing that makes the show even mildly humorous. You pay money to listen to Opie and Anthony. Now THAT'S funny.
Well Roger I can at least res
May 11, 2007 - 13:25 ET by EcstasyOfGoldWell Roger I can at least respect your opinion because you appear to have at least heard the show before. We will have to aggree to disagree about the use of my discresionary income.
The beauty of America is that
May 11, 2007 - 14:45 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe beauty of America is that anybody, even the borderline mentally-challenged, can spend their money on whatever they want: Home Shopping Network, Opie and Anthony, the FlowBee, Meg Ryan movies, Coors Light, carbon tax, you name it.
Are you besmirching the Flo
May 11, 2007 - 15:39 ET by balboaAre you besmirching the Flowbee?!?!
Afternoon boa...I think someo
May 11, 2007 - 15:50 ET by bigtimerAfternoon boa...
I think someone needs to get Edwards out there saying he loves using the Flowbee.
He mended his ways...saw the light and all that stuff!
LOL!
That could be funny: "
May 11, 2007 - 16:03 ET by balboaThat could be funny: "John Edwards, for the Flowbee."
I rip on Meg Ryan, and you le
May 11, 2007 - 22:25 ET by Roger the ShrubberI rip on Meg Ryan, and you let it slide?
Boa, are you getting soft in your old age? :p
EoG, I absolutely believe in
May 11, 2007 - 15:21 ET by Ruths husband BenEoG, I absolutely believe in free speech, but I do not worship at its altar like you do. Each of our rights are precious and they also have inherent responsibilities. For instance, I believe in the right to own and bear arms, that does not give anyone the "right" to shoot innocent people. I believe in freedom of religion, that does not give anyone the right to cut off infidels heads.
I live daily with the results of violent assaults on women. It is not a joking matter, no matter who it is. To hold this up as something that is "funny" and I just don't get it is insulting. I agree that these scumbags will never rape Condoleeza Rice of the First Lady, but the dehumanization of women in their "funny" routine can lead someone to justify their own sick behavior.
You like jokes, right? Let me put it in real funny terms: You are an asshole. So are those two jerks you send money to. Apparently none of you has someone that you love who has been a victim of rape. I hope you never do.
BenThank you.
May 11, 2007 - 15:29 ET by bigtimerBen
Thank you.
Freedom of speech, does not
May 12, 2007 - 01:03 ET by Mr. BishopFreedom of speech, does not equate to freedom from consequence. See the police about screaming fire in a public place, when there is no fire. I would never advocate someone speaking about raping Hillary. I have not, nor will I ever, advocate someone threatening to kill Bill Clinton (during or after office). There are some thing that should not be "joked" about, and rape and murder are at the top of the list.
Freedom of speech is something that I hold dear. Leon and I agree on very little -- but his freedom of speech doesn't cross the boundaries into advocating the rape of Laura Bush, nor the murder of George Bush -- neither does mine cross into the previously mentioned Clinton's.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
I think I can hear the cricke
May 10, 2007 - 17:25 ET by msh1973I think I can hear the crickets in the background.
I'm sure these two losers
May 10, 2007 - 17:27 ET by charlietexasI'm sure these two losers run with Bill Mahar.......what a surprise....
As far as I can tell, these t
May 10, 2007 - 20:12 ET by The PresbyterAs far as I can tell, these two are not liberals. They always shun political correctness, get particularly mad that old ladies and "Leave it to Beaver" type families get searched at the airport and Anthony thinks that Global Warming is a farce. I have heard on several occasions Anthony mock Al Sharpton and ask what the hell he actually does for a living.
These guys do not target Republicans. They just take it over the edge, which is why I love them.
Liberal or conservative, thes
May 11, 2007 - 10:07 ET by GalvanicLiberal or conservative, these recent comments by Opie and Anthony are juvenile. If you find them funny, so be it. If you want to spend your money to listen to them, have at it.
I have absolutely no words I
May 10, 2007 - 17:29 ET by bigtimerI have absolutely no words I could use here if I could even think of them.
Which I can.
Despicable.
Where is the outrage?
This world is in the worst turmoil I have ever seen....things will change, it will be done, degradation of our souls by the devils cannot go on much longer without a major war of some kind soon.
Here or elsewhere....the time is coming.
The devil/creatures with all their clever evilness will never win...they never have, nor will they.
This is really nothing more t
May 10, 2007 - 17:37 ET by Sonny LykosThis is really nothing more that two children with such low self-esteem that they decided to join the “look at me” crowd by appealing to their peers. It’s the “Did you catch our show today.” stuff of such people. An attempt to out do others.
They are no different from teenagers in malls with green hair, baggy pants and ear rings all over their bodies. "Look at me. I'm important."
One can only feel sorry for such pathetic people.
Hi Sonny,Pity.I have none.Thi
May 10, 2007 - 18:01 ET by bigtimerHi Sonny,
Pity.
I have none.
This world and respect, just plain respect is gone.
In all respects.
Things are gonna come to a head.
Sooner rather than later IMHO.
If this were reversed with an leftist administration and talking like this about the women in it, you think it would be ignored?
Not me.
I'm looking forward to Sheer
May 10, 2007 - 17:33 ET by j. frank wilsonI'm looking forward to Sheer Insanity's spirited defense of this pair. After all, he has no problem with racist prank calls. We all just need to lighten up and laugh a little...
"lighten up????"Ple
May 10, 2007 - 18:12 ET by Jack BauerPlease take your offensive racist comments elsewhere. You know how disgusting that suggestion is to black people. Racist prick.
A swing and a miss...go back
May 10, 2007 - 18:35 ET by j. frank wilsonA swing and a miss...go back and read my post and try again. Next time I'll do my best to type s l o w l y so you can be sure to read it. I was quoting Sean Hannity's spirited defense of the two NYC dj's.
April 24, 2007: Hannity defended JV and Elvis (suspended by CBS radio). It's just dandy in his world-view to make a racist call to a Chinese restaurant. After all, these folks are only trying to make a living. They have plenty of time for "jokes" about “Shrimp flied lice” and the size of their body parts, etc.
Next time, do try to read before you type...and NB frowns on the insults.
er, it's called a pun Frank
May 10, 2007 - 18:59 ET by acumenSpeaking of "laugh a little", I would advise going to dictionary.com and looking up 'pun' Frank, then you might want to go back and read Jack's post s l o w l y.
Sorry - I just can't seem to
May 10, 2007 - 19:03 ET by j. frank wilsonSorry - I just can't seem to find the "pun" in "racist prick."
Well, that part didn't have o
May 10, 2007 - 19:34 ET by Mr. KafirWell, that part didn't have one. Duh!
I understand Frank
May 10, 2007 - 19:59 ET by acumenI understand Frank. Much like you can't dial 911 because you can't "find" an '11' on any phone button.
A big "Duuuuuh" for
May 10, 2007 - 22:03 ET by Roger the ShrubberA big "Duuuuuh" for you, Franklin.
Yep, it's the old sense of
May 11, 2007 - 06:36 ET by Jack BauerYep, it's the old sense of humor bypass again.
(What's happened to the Shrubb Report?)
thanks acu --So many lib***
May 11, 2007 - 06:33 ET by Jack Bauerthanks acu --
So many lib***ls just don't seem to have a sense of self-deprecating humor.
J. Frank Wilson
May 10, 2007 - 21:52 ET by Noel SheppardFrank,
Well, you're still batting a thousand, for you were wrong again.
Hannity defended Opie and Anthony's right to make these statements, and said that if people don't like it, they should turn it off.
He further stated that people like Opie, Anthony, Bill Maher, Rosie O'Donnell, Rush Limbaugh, Neal Boortz, and himself shouldn't be fired for expressing their thoughts.
As such, go put that in your pipe and smoke it! ns
XM isn't the public airwaves,
May 10, 2007 - 18:24 ET by fenderteleXM isn't the public airwaves, so as far as I'm concerned they can say whatever they want. I can't accidentally stumble upon it turning the dial, I don't own XM and I view it as a private club. You pay the cover fee and you know what you're getting when you walk in the door.
Rush Limbaugh and his "magic negro" comment is rather offensive just as those of you here who think Sharpton's comments about Romney are offensive. If I had a radio show and sang about Romney the Magic Mormon with some choice lyrics, do you think many people would be offended?
The parody was taken from one
May 10, 2007 - 18:32 ET by bigtimerThe parody was taken from one of your own leftist thinkers in the LA Times fender-bender...which I am sure you know that fact very well.
Move on...try something else.
This shite isn't going to work tonight.
The magic negro comments are
May 10, 2007 - 18:41 ET by VT Con ManThe magic negro comments are not Rush's, he got them from a left winger. nice try fender. You have a point with the "club" idea, but it is still vile, unnecessary drivel from a couple of scumbags.
The magic negro comments are
May 10, 2007 - 18:42 ET by VT Con ManThe magic negro comments are not Rush's, he got them from a left winger. nice try fender. You have a point with the "club" idea, but it is still vile, unnecessary drivel from a couple of scumbags.
Please elighten me. I think
May 10, 2007 - 19:06 ET by fendertelePlease elighten me. I think you're wrong. Who was the lefty the remark came from and provide the context.
Thank you.
You can look it up here on th
May 10, 2007 - 19:11 ET by bigtimerYou can look it up here on this site frankie.
Exert own yourself.
There have been blogs here.
This is one day I do not feel like providing links to trolls who do not read them, or chose to ignore them most of the time anyway.
stuff your attitude fender. l
May 10, 2007 - 19:33 ET by VT Con Manstuff your attitude fender. look it up. his website is free. troll.
Be careful - your respect (th
May 10, 2007 - 19:35 ET by j. frank wilsonBe careful - your respect (that belongs only to the Right) is showing...
and your trollishness is show
May 10, 2007 - 19:38 ET by Blondeand your trollishness is showing (yet again!)
jfw, same playground as fende
May 10, 2007 - 19:55 ET by VT Con Manjfw, same playground as fender? all you two can come up with is "your wrong" ?
impressive, not
David Ehrenstein
May 10, 2007 - 19:47 ET by NewsbusterbrownHere you are, fendertele:
David Ehrenstein
Thanks nbb...Unfortunately fr
May 10, 2007 - 19:51 ET by bigtimerThanks nbb...
Unfortunately frankie will have a spin, or just ignore what the point was in the first place that I brought up.
It seems whenever you send them a link, they just eat it.
They remind me of the Pac-man machine.
Ehrenstein was quoting sociol
May 10, 2007 - 19:53 ET by balboaEhrenstein was quoting sociologists from another era.
...answering for frankie now
May 10, 2007 - 20:00 ET by bigtimer...answering for frankie now boa...
Figures.
Pathetic answer too...but oh so typically leftist.
How can it be a pathetic answ
May 10, 2007 - 20:03 ET by balboaHow can it be a pathetic answer when I'm referencing the actual article? Did you even read the article?
"The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "
This is the important paragra
May 10, 2007 - 20:38 ET by NewsbusterbrownThis is the important paragraph, Balboa:
Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn't project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him.
The only point here was that
May 10, 2007 - 20:40 ET by balboaThe only point here was that Ehrenstein didn't coin the term "Magic Negro"; he referenced it.
hey bal, if you go back to th
May 10, 2007 - 20:55 ET by VT Con Manhey bal, if you go back to the point, Rush Limbaugh is being called offensive for making this "racist" remark. While, in fact, he is not the originator, the LA Times was. So origins and circular debate comes back to calling a conservative an offensive racist for a parody of a leftist democrats words. This happens daily. Rush also pokes fun at Al Sharpton, which I am sure is "offensive". While Al can call Jewish people interlopers, Romney a non-believer, ad nauseum, and all is mum.
The only point here was that
May 10, 2007 - 21:00 ET by NewsbusterbrownThe only point here was that Ehrenstein didn't coin the term "Magic Negro"; he referenced it.
True, but Rush never said that he coined it.
And I believe that the phrase
May 10, 2007 - 20:00 ET by newkidontheblockAnd I believe that the phrase itself was coined by Spike Lee many years ago.
Magic Negro Context
May 10, 2007 - 19:49 ET by mastersofdeceitHere's your context.
Bent fender went to the same school as EcstacyOfGold.
May 11, 2007 - 09:43 ET by Dave RRush Limbaugh and his "magic negro" comment....
The "majic negro" comment did not originate with Rush. It was originally coined by the LA Times, I believe.
XM isn't the public airwaves, so as far as I'm concerned they can say whatever they want.
Correct, thay can say what ever they like, but if their employer decides to fire them for saying whatever they like, the 1st Amendment does not protect them. (See above)
Had you not attended the same government school as EcstacyOfGold, you would have known that.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-
Neal Boortz.
This trash makes me sick to
May 10, 2007 - 18:25 ET by MilesDThis trash makes me sick to look at - keeps getting worse and worse
"Heads" of State are even prone to vileness (Senor Chavez? Did liberal media teach you that anything you want to say is okay? Does this policy apply inside your country?)
Forty, fifty years ago, there was a level, of remarks that would be made, in the Public domain, that no one would cross, no matter what their political or religious beliefs.
(The strongest thing I can remember about anyone saying about J F Kennedy was that he might be "sympathetic to communism". The strongest thing I remember anyone accusing Goldwater, was a "warmonger". No one would go beyond that.)
Then it all changed, and keeps getting worse, there is no llimit any more
I am surely biased here, but
May 10, 2007 - 18:38 ET by VT Con ManI am surely biased here, but it seems all the vile activity is coming from one direction, the left. Lack of morals, lack of personal responsibility, lack of respect. Yeah, its from the left. Please correct me if I am wrong...
You are wrong. Listen to An
May 10, 2007 - 19:01 ET by j. frank wilsonYou are wrong. Listen to Ann Falter or Michelle Malkin or Mancow or the Silly Savage or ole BlunderRush or Bull O'Really? or Sheer Insanity...
As for lack of morals, lack of personal responsibility, lack of respect - there's JackEmUp N. RipEmOff, Duke Cunningham, Dusty Foggo, Congressman Neys from Ohio, the customers of the DC Madam, Mark Foley, and plenty more to come...
thanks for the attempted corr
May 10, 2007 - 19:12 ET by VT Con Manthanks for the attempted correction jfw, however, I'll wait till I hear ANY on your little hate list to suggest the sexual assault of a Dem leader to go for your ridiculous idea. As for Republicans breaking the law, whatever. The republican party is for pers responsibility, the Dems are for ever growing government handouts for whomever they deem disadvantaged, and shun pers responsibility. Slight diff from your criminal angle. nice try nice try
And hey, if I need anyone to tell me I am wrong, I'll take it from someone I know.
Way to change the definition
May 10, 2007 - 19:19 ET by j. frank wilsonWay to change the definition when you're proven wrong! Keep backpeddling.
And - nice distinction between morals and criminal activity. I guess it must make sense to you.
It's a myth to suggest Republicans actually believe in personal responsibilty. Too many members of the present Administration have "accepted responsibility" - but nothing seems to have happened to them.
uh, "nothing has happene
May 10, 2007 - 19:30 ET by VT Con Manuh, "nothing has happened to them" because conservatism isn't illegal, sorry to burst your bubble.
and who is backpeddling? where's the similar comment from your little hate list? hmmm? who is backpeddling? you are little one.
You claimed all the "vil
May 10, 2007 - 19:33 ET by j. frank wilsonYou claimed all the "vile activity" is coming from the Left. I proved you wrong.
You spout off about morals and personal responsibility being only on the Right - I proved you wrong.
Then you started retreating because you remain wrong.
PS: NB frowns on personal insults.
Except when directed at you.
May 10, 2007 - 19:36 ET by Mr. KafirExcept when directed at you.
No, j frank.NB frowns on li
May 10, 2007 - 19:36 ET by BlondeNo, j frank.
NB frowns on liberal little trollsters. Like you.
little? is that the insult? y
May 10, 2007 - 19:43 ET by VT Con Manlittle? is that the insult? you are boring me with your smallness. oops.
still have yet to see the vileness toward the dems. you can say i am wrong for days i am sure, typical. where is the vilenes towards the left? give me anything from your hate list...but make sure it is factual like the above opie and andy drivel.
your wrong doesn't cut it.
It was the left. They real
May 10, 2007 - 22:03 ET by MilesDIt was the left. They really tilted their hand on the reporting of the war in Southeast Asia. (Caused insufferable hardship to Viet vets, by the way, and it isn't forgivable.)
The Left media hated the war so much, they actually forgot LBJ was quite liberal - for example, the Great Society, and a very large expansion of Federal investment in US Universities.
Then the whole of corporate media became the property of the left. And they also realized they weren't in the news business at all, they were in the entertainment business, so the spokespeople for everything became the ninnies who were familiar faces, with an opinion on everything and knowledge of nothing. For the most part, the public couldn't care less, and a less "formal" (basically unsensored) style became the norm of the media.
Most of the people who read these pages, are talking to each other. Many people would be surprised to learn for example, that there are actually a large group of people with respected credentials and knowledge who have concluded that the "climate change" spectacle is not what the media has concluded it is. Furthermore, many people do not see a left tilt (or dominance) in the media, and this media have effectively convinced the public that anyone who views them as tilted is nothing more than a militia-style wacko.
Some people with a different viewpoint, like Limbaugh, do seem to get a little sour when they get fed up (sorry Rush), I am guilty of the same thing, and I wish I knew a correct approach
This is what it has come to.
May 10, 2007 - 19:35 ET by iveseenitallThis is what it has come to. The media has gotten away with crap like this far too long. America's imploding like an atomic bomb. When it explodes, it's not going to be pretty.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
"(ZERO POINT ZERO) 0.0".....Artie Lange
May 10, 2007 - 20:07 ET by nicksmith112Opie and Anthony have been an utter failure on both XM and terrestrial radio.
I say let the market take care of these two.
The market dictates that O&am
May 11, 2007 - 00:26 ET by winston smithThe market dictates that O&A shall soon return to their fryer stations at Wendy's.
Since their comments are on a
May 10, 2007 - 20:41 ET by EvilRoySince their comments are on a subscription satelite broadcast I doubt if anything can be done as the FCC doesn't have any legal authority over them. I wouldn't begin to estimate the size of the Republicans in thier audience, not many I suspect, so I doubt anything will be forthcoming from that corner. The MSM or drive-by media probably won't even make note of it. And Big Al and Little Jesse won't help Condi as, in their minds, she is a traitor to her race.
No, I doubt anything can or will happen to these radio "personalities".
Not only are their comments o
May 10, 2007 - 20:56 ET by taito2000Not only are their comments on a subscription-based service, but the XM display for every radio also marks their channel as having explicit language and can be blocked at any time. So, while their comments were offensive, it's not as if every XM subscriber who was offended has to keep their channel unblocked.
And the problem is....? Th
May 10, 2007 - 21:35 ET by Squalls BladeAnd the problem is....? They were making some jokes, having some laughs. You liberals need to lighten up.
Democracy is not enough. If the culture dies, the country dies. - Pat Buchanan
Hard Left or Hard Right? Which will it be?
May 10, 2007 - 23:03 ET by w0tmI've made the comment before and I'll make it again, our country and the world is inexorably heading toward a Hard Left or Hard Right Oligarchy dictatorship. It already exists for a third of the world's population. Why do fools always say, "it can't happen here"?
Societies either thrive or they die. We are dying just as sure as the sun sets in the west. We are following the setting sun. Thousands of things like this every day, as sides become more and more polarized, add fuel to the fire. What comes next? These are the signs of the future. If only it could be stopped. We passed the last chance to turn around long ago.
David Ehrenstein is African A
May 11, 2007 - 01:55 ET by fenderteleDavid Ehrenstein is African American. If he wants to use whatever terminology regarding Obama, I'll give him a pass. Now for a fat white guy like Rush Limbaugh taking the comment and playing it ad nauseum set to music is not what I would call cricket. If Al Sharpton was playing let's say something like: "Rush Limbaugh the magic cracker lived in a mansion by the sea, where he got high on dope and viagra and got out of jail free" , you rightwingers would be blubbering about what a racist Al Sharpton is.
Your double standards and com
May 11, 2007 - 02:06 ET by mastersofdeceitYour double standards and complete lack of a sense of humor has been duly noted. Thank you! Please come again.
Please explain to me why he s
May 12, 2007 - 00:48 ET by James2306Please explain to me why he should get a pass because of the color of his skin
The hottest places in hell are oft reserved for those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral
Wait a second?
May 12, 2007 - 01:09 ET by Mr. BishopIf someone who is black, calls someone else black, some ridiculous word -- you give them a pass? It's racist people like you that make this world one hell of a crappy place to live.
Now... Al Sharpton IS racist. His statements in the past, have proven this to be true. Racism is about seeing yourself as different from everyone else. No one does this more then Al Sharpton, except Jesse Jackson. For someone to say, "Well, he can call this other guy a nigg*r because they're both black -- that's just sad, and totally stupid. If you have an objection with the word -- at least be universally objecting to its usage -- otherwise, you're just as racist as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
The left benefits from the double standard
May 11, 2007 - 07:07 ET by Blogger Guy00001Someone should create a website that chronicles the events which prove that there's a double standard. "Liberals" get away with things that conservatives are impaled for.
Neal Boortz has a great artic
May 11, 2007 - 08:58 ET by msh1973Neal Boortz has a great article on this topic over on TownHall.com. Just FYI.
Well, well. Opie and Anthony apologize
May 11, 2007 - 16:27 ET by RJWell, well. Opie and Anthony apologize
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/5/11/114838.shtml?s=ic
I can't believe any of you wo
May 11, 2007 - 20:48 ET by amberI can't believe any of you would support their right to say those horrible things. I want them grabbed off of the street, have a plastic bag thrown over their heads and forced to take it in the ars by a million men until they die in a pool of their blood.
Do you support my right to say that?
Evil is OK, as long as it is not necessarily illegal (which I would classify this as hate speach which is not protected speach anyways), yah, good for you all.
Republicans are all about cen
May 11, 2007 - 21:54 ET by joe conservativeRepublicans are all about censorship. I thought the skit was funny and in good taste.
Evidence?
May 12, 2007 - 01:15 ET by Mr. BishopEvidence that Republicans are all about censorship? You're really having a lot of trouble about this, aren't you? That bad "e" word -- evidence? The only people I see out in the world, trying to censor, are Democrats and liberals, with their "political correct" crap. Political correctness is about censorship -- it's all about removing freedom of thought, and replacing it with a list of things you're allowed to say, and not say.
Now, I am not surprised you find it funny and in good taste -- it really doesn't surprise me one bit.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..