As you'll see from the screencap, the cast of "Today" was really yukking it up this morning at George Bush's expense, recycling his "1776" gaffe on the occasion of the Queen's visit and updating the story with the Queen's retort. Between a show-opening tease and the subsequent smirk-a-thon, the show devoted no less than 1 min, 43 seconds of its opening 21-minute 7:00 AM half-hour to the matter.But, at least during that crucial first half-hour, "Today" somehow couldn't find a second to report on either of two stories with negative implications for Dem presidential candidates Barack Obama and John Edwards.
View video here.
Speaking in Virginia yesterday, Obama claimed that "ten thousand people died" in the Kansas tornado. He was only off by a factor of 1,000. Since we all know that Obama is brilliant, a Harvard law grad, why bother to pass along a story which doesn't fit the template?
As for Edwards, in an interview yesterday with the Associated Press, Mr. Two Americas claimed that "he worked for a hedge fund between presidential campaigns to learn about financial markets and their relationship to poverty." Not that there's anything wrong with working for the financial industry, but still, shades of the politician caught taking bribes who claims he was conducting his own undercover investigation of corruption. By the way, at least for the time being, anti-poverty warrior Edwards has refused to disclose how much the hedge fund, Fortress Investment Group, paid him.Again, nary a word in the first half-hour, discouraging or otherwise, from "Today" about Edwards' extracurricular activities or his risible rationale.
But President Bush and "1776"? Send in the clowns! Vieira sardonically reminded us of President Bush's "little verbal slip," and replayed the clip. "Today" then rolled footage of the Queen's retort, made at yesterday's reception at the British embassy, when she asked the president whether she should begin her toast by saying "when I was here in 1776." Meredith, David Gregory and Al Roker then riffed off the episode, with Vieira suggesting that "they should go on the road -- to the Catskills!" You're killing me here, Meredith.
ASIDE: No mention of Edwards' hedge fund work during the first half-hour of "Good Morning America," but GMA did play a clip of Obama's 10,000-dead in Kansas mistake. During the first half-hour of CBS's "Early Show," no 1776 yuks but no Obama or Edwards stories, either.
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Today's show cast...juvenile
May 9, 2007 - 08:56 ET by msh1973Today's show cast...juvenile and not funny. I emailed them and told them how childish their behavior was, won't make a difference but at least I got that off my chest. I am sure they would spin the Obama comment as just a slip of the tongue. They make me sick to my stomach this early in the morning.
Mark Finkelstein - Bush found
May 9, 2007 - 08:57 ET by ding7777Mark Finkelstein - Bush found humor in his gaffe, why can't you?
ding7777 - The issue is no
May 9, 2007 - 09:00 ET by Mark Finkelsteinding7777 - The issue is not Pres. Bush's good humor; it's NBC's decision to highlight a story embarrassing to the president while burying ones embarrassing to Dem presidential candidates.
I wonder if it had “laugh
May 9, 2007 - 09:06 ET by USA4freedomI wonder if it had “laugh”, on the tell a-prompter? Wow, this is some witty gang.
I feel sorry for the people in News Busters that have to watch this, to report it. Oh…. Bush miss-spoke. Wow how cutting edge humor.
Gee what do you bet that Bill Maher makes fun of Bush as well.
You know, I don’t remember all the "humor" during Bill (I never had relations with that woman) Clinton…. on ABC, NBC, MSMBC, CBS,CNN........ Maybe I missed it.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagn- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Or what the definition of i
May 9, 2007 - 09:22 ET by Dee BunkOr what the definition of is is. Nothing funny about that.
...this is essentially just t
May 9, 2007 - 12:37 ET by TruthMonger...this is essentially just the bully mentality, right? To make fun of the way someone talks...
Maybe Today could head out to some local group homes for a few more laughs...? They could do it once a week - maybe call it "retard day" or something like that - in the humorous left-wing spirit of things, you know:)...
Mark -Considering the Queen's
May 9, 2007 - 09:14 ET by ding7777Mark -Considering the Queen's reserve, her retort to Bush during the toast was funny! Bush makes quips all the time.
I just don't see the negatives, that you do. As Tony Snow said of the original gaffe "It worked out just fine"
Mark, Gotta love when stori
May 9, 2007 - 09:54 ET by LeonMark, Gotta love when stories come out in contradiction to a Newsbusters stories from the previous day. No coverage for Democratic candidate gaffes eh?
Obama's 10,000 dead in Kansas comment has been getting quite a bit of attention. Just about as much as W's misspeak the other day. Now what does that mean about the liberal bias arguments set forth yesterday?
Timing can be hilarious.
Uh huh, it sure can, Leon
May 9, 2007 - 10:04 ET by RJUh huh, it sure can, Leon. Especially when an attempt at snark like yours falls flat due to either deliberate misrepresentation or a problem with readin comprehension. Mark's story is about this morning's "Today", not your "no coverage for Democratic gaffes."
Um no it had to do with the s
May 9, 2007 - 10:07 ET by LeonUm no it had to do with the supposed liberal bias in the coverage of Bush's bushism with the queen in the MSM (which includes NBC last time I checked).
To which I responded. Nice try though. Keep up the good work.
Geez, leon, you really do have a comprehension problem
May 9, 2007 - 10:13 ET by RJGeez, leon, you really do have a comprehension problem. Mark's story is about Today. Even the title says "Today." What alchemy in your leftist brain transforms that into "the MSM?"
I understand, and his article
May 9, 2007 - 10:17 ET by LeonI understand, and his article is piggbacking off of yesterday's discussion, which in my mind, makes it a continuation of the supposed liberal bias in covering Bush's gaffes discussion.
Your standard operating procedure is weak. I made a valid point. Yesterday people cried about lack of democratic gaffe coverage and today Obama got plenty of coverage. It's funny and in your face. Furthermore, it fits in with this thread that Mark has started by discussing Today.
It seems to me that your overwhelming desire to discredit my indisputable facts is overpowering your sense of understanding. But it's still early. I'm sure you'll pull it together sometime in the next 10 hours you spend on this site.
valid point? you still hav
May 9, 2007 - 10:23 ET by Dee Bunkvalid point? you still have not provided anything to back up your statement
Oh, nice try, leon, but your attempt at CYA is just silly
May 9, 2007 - 10:26 ET by RJOh, nice try, leon, but your CYA attempt is just silly. Why not be a man and admit your mistake? You scanned Mark's story and made an incorrect assumption. Now, your desperate attempt to cover just looks more pathetic.
Remember, foolish leon, it's not the mistake, it's the coverup that destroys. ;^>
Correct assumption = today's
May 9, 2007 - 10:35 ET by LeonCorrect assumption = today's post directly related to and intertwined with yesterday's conversation.
Is that your best CYA shot, leon?
May 9, 2007 - 10:45 ET by RJIs that your best CYA shot, leon? That you made a 'correct assumption?' In your leftist brain, that justifies your misrepresentation in your first post to Mark? Even though his story was clear in it's focus on "Today", you said: "No coverage for Democratic candidate gaffes, eh?" Hey, given your desperate attempt to cover yourself, maybe it wasn't a mistake, but a deliberate lie.
You better go back to work and earn the money your employer pays you, 'cause the deeper you go, the more egg on your face. ;^>
So sorry Leon - please prov
May 9, 2007 - 10:07 ET by Dee BunkSo sorry Leon - please provide the link to the video where someone in the media is yucking it up over the O'Bama statement. We would love to see it.
Sorry Dee I have a job, I do
May 9, 2007 - 10:08 ET by LeonSorry Dee I have a job, I don't have the luxury of watching tv all day. Although I'm sure there are some regular posters on this site that could take care of your request. Ask one of them.
Oh Leon so you admit you ha
May 9, 2007 - 10:10 ET by Dee BunkOh Leon so you admit you have not seen any. That is what I thought. Thanks
It's 10 am in the morning.
May 9, 2007 - 10:13 ET by LeonIt's 10 am in the morning. The last time I had a tv on was 4 pm yesterday. I simply haven't had a chance yet. Again, not everybody is able to watch every second of MSM news coverage.
What a petty attack you're making. It's so absurd. Because I haven't had a chance to watch tv doesn't mean there hasn't been any coverage. What exactly is your point? I'm a hard working tax paying citizen. Ask one of the freeloaders on this site that actually has the time to watch nonstop tv.
Leon - If you make a claim
May 9, 2007 - 10:18 ET by Dee BunkLeon - If you make a claim then put up or shut up. No one else made the claim. Petty attack? Asking you to back up your claim is a petty attack? You are a joke Leon. Yeah - you are the only one with a job - you must be important. Give me a break.
I was referring to the print
May 9, 2007 - 10:21 ET by LeonI was referring to the print MSM that I had a chance to peruse before work. Newspapers, reuters, breitbart, etc..
They are included in the MSM right? I wasn't aware that the MSM only includes television.
So Leon - tell us the paper
May 9, 2007 - 10:26 ET by Dee BunkSo Leon - tell us the paper where they were yucking it up and what page.
Extremely snappy come back
May 9, 2007 - 10:14 ET by MightyMouth"Sorry Dee I have a job"
Extremely snappy come back Leon. Now get back to work before you burn the french fries.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
...says the guy that makes l
May 9, 2007 - 10:18 ET by Leon...says the guy that makes lame jokes online 20 hours a day.
I thought you didn't have t
May 9, 2007 - 10:20 ET by MightyMouthI thought you didn't have time to watch? Loser.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
time to watch what?
May 9, 2007 - 10:22 ET by Leontime to watch what?
Leon, you're dumber than a
May 9, 2007 - 10:24 ET by MightyMouthLeon, you're dumber than a bag-o-hammers. How could you know I post lame jokes 20 hours a day if you weren't "watching"?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Hey MM, see that time stamp i
May 9, 2007 - 10:30 ET by LeonHey MM, see that time stamp in gray that shows up above your post? That's how I know. That stays there all the time.
Great!! I have a groupie!
May 9, 2007 - 10:31 ET by MightyMouthOh great!! I have a groupie!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Okay Leon - so how long do
May 9, 2007 - 10:35 ET by Dee BunkOkay Leon - so how long do you think each post takes him and how do you come up with 20 hours?
how would you know worker b
May 9, 2007 - 10:20 ET by Dee Bunkhow would you know worker bee ? - better get back to your toilette cleaning before your master catches you.
ok ok so now i've been accuse
May 9, 2007 - 10:23 ET by Leonok ok so now i've been accused of making french fries and cleaning toilets.
What's wrong with these professions? You really sound like an elitist liberal making this types of attacks.
"What's wrong with the
May 9, 2007 - 10:26 ET by MightyMouth"What's wrong with these professions?"
Not a damn thing, who said there was?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
By baselessly attacking me by
May 9, 2007 - 10:32 ET by LeonBy baselessly attacking me by claiming that's the job that I'm doing (implying there's something wrong or pathetic about that), you're inherently degrading people that work in those jobs.
MM, you are guilty as charged.
Ya got me Leon! I'm guilty
May 9, 2007 - 10:35 ET by MightyMouthYa got me Leon! I'm guilty as charged.
However, I will have to admit that I actually have done both jobs-- when I was 16.
Have a nice day Leon. *eye roll*
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Great, so you admit that you
May 9, 2007 - 10:37 ET by LeonGreat, so you admit that you were acting in an elitist manner.
Roll your eyes and make excuses after the fact all you want. You degraded a large group of Americans who are simply trying to earn a living in an attempt to make an ad hoc attack against me.
That's extremely petty and pretty sad.
One last thing
May 9, 2007 - 10:43 ET by MightyMouthLeon says: "...Ask one of the freeloaders on this site...".
Sorry I thought you started this by insulting everyone here since you were not specific about just who the "feeloaders" are --with your "non ad hoc" attack.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
No Leon - you have been the
May 9, 2007 - 10:43 ET by Dee BunkNo Leon - you have been the one who comes here attacking people with nothing to back it up. You don't get it loser - we are making fun of you for thinking we all have meaningless jobs. We are attacking you with your same methods. It's easy to act juvenile like you. Now I'm done because unlike you I actually have some important work to do.
I never said that everyone on
May 9, 2007 - 10:55 ET by LeonI never said that everyone on here has meaningless jobs. I specifically referenced the people on here that clearly don't work. Last time I checked that's not everyone. You're making sweeping generalizations, not me. Keep trying though. You're going to get me one of these times.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Please don't run Leon off. He
May 9, 2007 - 10:58 ET by Ruths husband BenPlease don't run Leon off. He's fun to play with. Remember what your mother taught you about sharing.
Yaba daba doo! -Fred Flintstone campaign slogan
Okay, all fun aside with th
May 9, 2007 - 17:03 ET by MrShyOkay, all fun aside with this Leon guy.... Leon, in all seriousness, if you throw yourself into the fray with a counter argument about the media having a good one over the Obama statement, please provide a link/example.... print, video, whatever it is. You came on here claiming they're having fun with Obama equally -- somewhere, evidently -- as they are w/ Bush. We all do our homework here and provide links to back up our claims.
Thanking you in advance :)
AND... to beat you to the p
May 9, 2007 - 17:09 ET by MrShyAND... to beat you to the predictable punch that you'll take "homework" and joke further about how we're on here all the time.... no, we're not... I JUST came on and saw this thread and had to jump in. What it DOES mean, is, it's total common sense to be ready with facts to back up an argument. If I went on Huff or Daily Kos, or whatever, I would certainly be prepared to say "here, take a look"....
baseless? who started the
May 9, 2007 - 10:38 ET by Dee Bunkbaseless? who started the job crap loser?
Dee, speaking of jobs, is leon cheating his employer?
May 9, 2007 - 11:04 ET by RJDee, what do you think? Is leon cheating his employer by hanging out here since "10AM in the morning", (as opposed to 10AM in the afternoon?) or is his job so inconsequential it doesn't matter what he does?
"as opposed to 10AM in
May 9, 2007 - 11:09 ET by MightyMouth"as opposed to 10AM in the afternoon?"
LOL RJ,
I must be slipping, don't know how I missed that one! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
RJ and MM - that must be
May 9, 2007 - 12:51 ET by Dee BunkRJ and MM - that must be where Leon got the 10hrs from also. MM's time stamp of 10:00 A.M. translates to 10hrs for him.
I'd guess he is cheating his employer. He must be hourly the way he is obsessing about the "time" other posters have. He doesn't realize that most of us are self-employed or salary and have busy and slow times. We more than make up for the time we waste and don't get to watch T.V. starting at 4:00 P.M. like he does.
He probably has a Union or government job. Not that there's anything wrong with those - just that people like him take advantage.
Assumption junction what's yo
May 9, 2007 - 14:37 ET by LeonAssumption junction what's yoooour funciton?
Nice Dee. Super Sleuthing.
Way to make up a fictional account of a complete stranger. That's not crazy or anything.
You can think whatever you want about my career. Unlike you, I'm not threatened by anonymous strangers on a blog.
ps I AM a member of the Union League, but I'm not in a union. Close though.
I know Leon - that's my poi
May 9, 2007 - 10:27 ET by Dee BunkI know Leon - that's my point. You are a little slow on the uptake
...the yuks regarding Obama a
May 9, 2007 - 11:19 ET by TruthMonger...the yuks regarding Obama are virtually non-existent, and the timing couldn't be worse for poor ding and leon here, naturally their here trying a ridiculous pre-emptive move - I admire their courage - what must the huffpost be paying them for this...?
"what must the huffpos
May 9, 2007 - 11:24 ET by MightyMouth"what must the huffpost be paying them for this...?"
Ding and Leon holding sign: "Will post for Cheetos and Mountain Dew".
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Cripes it's not THAT embarr
May 9, 2007 - 11:18 ET by balboaCripes it's not THAT embarrassing. It's funny because it's the queen. The others by Obama and Edwards, as I noted before, aren't moments to yuk it up.
This couldn't be more of a pe
May 9, 2007 - 11:22 ET by TruthMongerThis couldn't be more of a perfect exclamation point on yesterday's discussions - Obama is fortunate to be a D instead of an R...
So you want them to yuk it
May 9, 2007 - 11:25 ET by balboaSo you want them to yuk it up about Bush's gaffe, but then laugh about Obama getting the number of dead in Kansas wrong, too? THAT...is a tough segue.
This might be a first
May 9, 2007 - 11:37 ET by RJThis might be a first...I think that I...I...I...gosh darn it, this is hard....I agree with balboa.
My work here is done. Goodn
May 9, 2007 - 11:50 ET by balboaMy work here is done. Goodnight, everybody! ;-)
Who knew that's all it would take?
May 9, 2007 - 12:01 ET by RJWho knew that's all it would take? ;^>
Lol.
May 9, 2007 - 12:11 ET by balboaLol.
come on balboa - I'm not an
May 9, 2007 - 13:02 ET by Dee Bunkcome on balboa - I'm not an ar-teest or a journalist and I could even do it. How's this one?
President Bush wasn't the only one goofing up his numbers, Presidential hopeful Barak Obama said that 10,000 people were killed when it was really 10 and he said 40% of the national guard was gone when it was really 10%. These politicians really have a problem with facts and figures don't they?
Hows that? Too awkward?
...dandy...whattya think, RJ?
May 9, 2007 - 13:05 ET by TruthMonger...dandy...whattya think, RJ?
Don't get me wrong. I'm onl
May 9, 2007 - 13:15 ET by RJDon't get me wrong. I'm only agreeing that making a joke of Obama's gafffe would be in poor taste....but having brought up the President's misspeak, they could have, and probably should have, mentioned the other two at a later time.
You still go from a light-h
May 9, 2007 - 13:11 ET by balboaYou still go from a light-hearted chuckle to death, destruction. You could do it, sure, but it would be awkward.
balboa - Are you saying you
May 9, 2007 - 13:20 ET by Dee Bunkbalboa - Are you saying you didn't like mine? I'm a little offended. I thought it was pretty good. Would it kill you to give me a compliment? : )
...OK, I'll admit you put t
May 9, 2007 - 14:11 ET by balboa...OK, I'll admit you put together a nice little segue....(ouch, the pain)...
Thanks balboa! I'm going t
May 9, 2007 - 14:24 ET by Dee BunkThanks balboa! I'm going to have to print and frame this one.
Yeah ding - I'm sure he'll
May 9, 2007 - 09:14 ET by Dee BunkYeah ding - I'm sure he'll remember this funny story to tell his Grand kids. It's a real knee slapper.
Dee Bunk - it must have been
May 9, 2007 - 09:21 ET by ding7777Dee Bunk - it must have been because Bush said " Your Majesty, I can't top that one. (Laughter.) "
Ding - you are delusional i
May 9, 2007 - 09:26 ET by Dee BunkDing - you are delusional if you think he'll be laughing about that one in the future. Of course he has to laugh at the Queen's stupid jokes. He is being polite.
Hey ding. If laughter is th
May 9, 2007 - 09:32 ET by RJHey ding. If laughter is the point, they could have had three opportunities to yuk it up, instead of only one.
Mark - don't be so hard on
May 9, 2007 - 09:08 ET by Dee BunkMark - don't be so hard on them - they probably believe 10,000 died. I don't think they have ever owned up to their own Katrina Gaffe believing Mayor Nagen. Some of the media probably still believe it. Edwards? - nothing fishy there. He's too cute.
It's unbelievable that this 18 oops! I mean 1776 (lets all crack up for a few days over that one and maybe I can make a mention in the NB weekly re-cap) has gone on another day
Let see, when Bidden said Oba
May 9, 2007 - 09:09 ET by USA4freedomLet see, when Bidden said Obama was a clean well-spoken black man they said: oh that was “just” a slip of the tong.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagn- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Good point USA - with libs
May 9, 2007 - 09:17 ET by Dee BunkGood point USA - with libs their stupid statements are not funny or outrageous. If they didn't find that outrageous then they should have at least found it funny.
Ditto for Hilary's "Gand
May 9, 2007 - 11:53 ET by Hero SquadDitto for Hilary's "Gandhi works at a gas station" insult.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Excellent
May 9, 2007 - 13:08 ET by PawpawNYes, we all remember the 15000 to 30000 dead in N'Orleans....
New conspiracy theory is born
May 9, 2007 - 09:11 ET by c5thenI wouldn't be surprised to hear that the blogoshere is all abuzz abou the newest administration conspiracy: there were "really 10,000 fatalities in the Kansas tornado, but the "Bush machine" is covering it up and only "allowing" the reporting of 12. Obama knows the truth. He's never wrong.
Can you imagine what these id
May 9, 2007 - 09:11 ET by NoMoreClintonsCan you imagine what these idiots would have done if President Bush had said that 10,000 people died in Kansas. But The Empty Suit Who Would Be President gets a free pass.
When this "gaffe" w
May 9, 2007 - 09:27 ET by Senior ChiefWhen this "gaffe" was replayed on O'Reilly Factor last night, it just made my day! The president recovered beautifully with, "She give me a look..." He even seek the queen's eyes, as if apologizing. The queen give him assurance that all is well, so go on, kind of response. I'm proud of my president. But our own people were very unforgiving as if they never misspoke in their entire lives.
This president is known for
May 9, 2007 - 10:05 ET by balboaThis president is known for his verbal gaffes. He makes one with the Queen that makes her over 300 years old. That's great fodder.
The others 1) are not done by the president and 2) have none of the appeal for morning show banter.
Balboa - you really truly f
May 9, 2007 - 10:08 ET by Dee BunkBalboa - you really truly find this funny?
Sure, it's amusing. Even the
May 9, 2007 - 11:16 ET by balboaSure, it's amusing. Even the president made fun of his goof-up. So the Today Show can't laugh along, too?
Of course it's amusing. My
May 9, 2007 - 11:25 ET by The Wicked ConservativeOf course it's amusing. My all time favorite words are strategery and compassionatvity. We can all have a laugh at Bush's lack of eloquence. Again Bal, this is not the issue. The issue is the complete washing over of gaffes by any liberal prez candidates. 10,000 dead, I wonder if they believe that. They probably think millions died in New Orleans.
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Talk sense to a
liberal and he calls you a racist, sexist, biggot, homophobe, denier.
Yes, but are they really wo
May 9, 2007 - 11:28 ET by balboaYes, but are they really worthy of noting? The Edwards story seems to be a stretch without any evidence of wrong-doing, and Obama's really doesn't mean much in the big picture.
EARTH TO FREAKING BAL - THE P
May 9, 2007 - 12:49 ET by TruthMongerEARTH TO FREAKING BAL - THE POINT IS THAT IF OBAMA WAS A REPUB IT WOULD BE ALL YOUR BELOVED TODAY SHOW "SMIRKATHON" WHILST IF BUSH WAS A DEM THEY WOULD HAVE COMPLETELY IGNORED IT...
You may continue to misunderstand this very simple first-grade logic whenever you're ready...
Bal to "Freaking"
May 9, 2007 - 13:09 ET by balboaBal to "Freaking" Earth - Yes, I know that's what you <i>say</i>. We'll just have to wait around until there's a democrat president as bad at public speaking as GW and see what happens.
Never heard of any bubba gaf
May 9, 2007 - 13:15 ET by TruthMongerNever heard of any bubba gaffes, eh? Gee, i wonder why that is...
balboa - Beware! Regular NB
May 9, 2007 - 10:27 ET by ding7777balboa - Beware! Regular NB'ers are going to demand that your gaffe of "makes [the Queen] over 300 years old" be yucked up the Today show or it will show liberal bias!
You mean the queen's younge
May 9, 2007 - 10:31 ET by sarcasmoYou mean the queen's younger than 300??
JMR
ding - what you talkin 'bou
May 9, 2007 - 10:32 ET by Dee Bunkding - what you talkin 'bout Guss?
1776. Brings to mind the
May 9, 2007 - 10:17 ET by uc1776. Brings to mind the book I said I would find and start reading and have. William Bligh or William Blythe or William Jefferson Clinton? "Mutiny on the Bounty" is the book and is set as it starts as "just after the British lost their American Colonies.
Is taking last name of Clinton and putting such as last name over Jefferson any less a story with mutiny as a possibility? Clinton of course being Vice President George Clinton under Jefferson and Madison. I am though far enough in book to compare Bill Clinton's terms to "Mutiny on the Bounty." >> Take well disciplined troops on a voyage, take from them what is theirs, get them to a tropical island, relax all discipline, still take what is theirs, do this while matters of the world may be set to war, and then put them back to tasks taking more of what might best be theirs and now I have to get back to reading the book later.
Bush may make some harmless g
May 9, 2007 - 10:43 ET by Gat New YorkBush may make some harmless gaffes. But a President Obama would appear to completely be oblivious to facts or not care about them. This is the same guy in the event of an attack would mke sure enough ambulances were on their way and give no thought to who did it and where are they?
...Or who was actually arrivi
May 9, 2007 - 11:57 ET by Hero Squad...Or who was actually arriving at the scene in those ambulances.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Mark - Catch DSO last night?
May 9, 2007 - 15:11 ET by acumenMark - Did you catch DSO at the State Theatre in Ithaca last night?