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ABC Science Blog: What the Heck, Let's Blame Global Warming Anyway

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By Ken Shepherd | May 8, 2007 - 16:55 ET

The Greensburg tornado disaster was just the perfect excuse for another global warming item on ABCNews.com.

After all, the Associated Press and CNN have focused on an Iraq angle to devastating tornado damage, but finding an Iraq angle to everything is so, I dunno, 2004.

At any rate, on his "Science and Society" blog at ABCNews.com yesterday, reporter Ned Potter set out to find why tornado touchdowns have increased in the past few years.

I called the National Weather Service, which says that as of today it knows of 69 dead in tornadoes since Jan. 1, compared to 49 up to this point last year, and 38 deaths for all of 2005. It's worth looking around NOAA's Storm Prediction Center site; find it HERE.

Is there a reason? Shifting weather patterns? Shifting population patterns? Global climate change? Clayton Sandell was asked to put together some notes.

Sadly for the media, Potter found out that "for all they know, global warming might even change atmospheric patterns and conditions in such a way to lead to fewer tornadoes."

Yet Potter didn't walk away completely empty-handed. He found a scientist to say that global warming could increase the moisture in the atmosphere and produce more "heavy rainfall events."

I'll have to remember that this summer when we're bound to see the media reporting on the nation's "parched" farmlands and "tinder box" conditions in Western forests as proof-positive of global warming.

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More GW BS

What a bunch of uneducated, narcissistic, blow-hards.  hmmm  I seem to be at a loss for words...  I'll finish this thought later.

Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.

PS  Weird question of the day:  How many of you work with people who flush the toilet NUMEROUS times at either a urinal or toilet WHILE going and then flushing agin when done?  I have been noticing this ALOT here at work lately.  These goons want to scream at us about using too much TP and having too many children etc..  But heaven FORBID somebody actually *gasp* hears them taking a wiz or dump..  What a bunch of SISSIES. 

Sorry if I grossed any of you out :-)   I thought it was a very real issuse to bring up and add one more nail into the hypocrites coffin.

The Worse F5 tornado was in

The Worse F5 tornado was in 1925 and killed about 670 people.

It destroyed a half dozen towns bigger than Greensburg.

The 8 of the top ten tornados occurred before 1960

Aha! this proves global war

Aha! this proves global warming is working to reduce the number of F5 tornados! Let's keep it up! /sarc off

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

FACTS, NortonPete.  Keep it

FACTS, NortonPete.  Keep it up; we need 'em.

I wondered how long that woul

I wondered how long that would take...

If the Iraq war and President Bush doesn't stick let's throw in GW...on and on.

Btw...I am adoring GW today...it is almost 80 degrees here....I love it!

"He found a scientist to say

"He found a scientist to say that global warming could increase the moisture in the atmosphere and produce more "heavy rainfall events."
My ass. Florida (where I live) is on fire. I am sure they could find a scientist to explain that on GW too!
Nortonalec

the wrath of goddess

I've got it.  If supposed human-induced global warming is a religion to these moonbats then their logic....er, belief...er, feeling must go something like this;  It's goddess mother earth's wrath for sending half of the Kansas National Guard to Bush's war in Iraq.

I was i Trader Joes the other

I was in Trader Joes the other day during a cold rainstorm. The admittedly pleasant hippie-ish checker offered the opinion that it was part of "Global Warming". I smiled and said I thought it was due to a cold front moving in. She looked at me like I was insane to suggest such a thing.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Ironic--I had almost the same

Ironic--I had almost the same conversation the other day.  We were having a big snowstorm (always happens in May in WY) and the lady in line in front of me mentioned that this was a part of global warming.  I chimed in with a "Really?  I thought it was due to the cold front that just moved  through and the low pressure system to the south creating an upslope condition."  She just kind of stared at me and turned around.

It's amazing.  I don't trust a forecast much more than 3-4 days in the future but people can definitively know a global forecast years in the future.

My Scientific Observation

Living in Arkansas, the summer temperature gets around 100 degrees and the humidty close to 90%.

I am in Baghdad now.  The temperature is already 110 and it is only spring.  No where near 90% humidity, very dry.

Maybe the MSM will want to talk to me about my experience with GW.

-- The problem is not that we are ignorant; rather, it is that so much of what we know is not true. --

Maybe the MSM will want to ta

Maybe the MSM will want to talk to me about my experience with GW.

It would certainly be as relevant as Al Gore's.

What are you doing in Baghdad, or are you not allowed to say?

If this tornado had followed

If this tornado had followed a path one mile (a minute amount considering the size of Earth) to the east or to the west and we have no story (nor another opportunity to blame GW or GW Bush).

It is rather mind-boggling to me that this is lost on liberals.  There could have been far more stronger storms in the past, but if they hit unoccupied areas, there would have been no damage except to plants and trees.  (Kind of like the Earth battling itself)

Surely thinking people can see this viewpoint.  I sure hope so.

That makes sense, but I think

That makes sense, but I think the idea is to blame EVERYTHING on Bush and the GOP. It is just like the girl at Trader Joe's. She believes what she said, and she does'nt have to think about it. The MSM and her teachers told her that what happened. Say it everyday, a steady repetetion, and all of a sudden you don't have to think about it-of COURSE it is Bushs' fault!
Nortonalec

"Ned Potter set out to f

"Ned Potter set out to find why tornado touchdowns have increased in the past few years."

Well theres the problem, lets think of an answer than ask the questions... What makes him think we have more touchdowns lately? This 1 city? Yeah thats what I thought!

"I called the National Weather Service, which says that as of today it knows of 69 dead in tornadoes since Jan. 1, compared to 49 up to this point last year, and 38 deaths for all of 2005."

So more people died from tornadoes so far this year? Wow that's shocking, they must be getting better with their aim or something. Let me tell you I have been through a couple tornadoes and they are very random, its just the luck of the draw, if they rip up some corn seedlings, or downtown. More deaths DOES NOT mean more tornadoes.

"for all they know, global warming might even change atmospheric patterns and conditions in such a way to lead to fewer tornadoes."

What!? your telling me that they know AGW is going to kill everyone in Florida, and NYC, and the polar bears, but they don't know if it will make more of fewer tornadoes???? Please lets be a little consistant! Just ask Al, I'm sure he will tell you that tornadoes will be able to seek in on IR heat signals and hunt humans down cause we are producing CO2!

What??? Thats just as reasonable as the rest of AGW!

Crazies to the left, and Whimps to the right

Great title to this post, Ken

Great title to this post, Ken.

Some possible explanations for the increased death toll

Some possible explanations for the higher death toll that have nothing to do with global warming:

1)  By chance, some of the deadliest recent tornados have hit in the middle of the night, when people aren't listening to warnings broadcast on TV or radio.  (If you live in tornado alley, get a weather radio with an alarm that will come on any time, 24/7, when a tornado warning is issued.  If you have normal hearing, it will wake you up so you have a better chance of getting to shelter.)

2)  By chance, tornados may be hitting more population centers than usual.

3) One tornado wiped out an occupied high school, where a number of victims were gathered in one spot.

4) The Kansas tornado was an EF 5, the most intense category; even so, the estimated winds were about 100 mph less than the 1999 Oklahoma City tornado.

One more thing.  Ken wrote:  "I'll have to remember that this summer when we're bound to see the media reporting on the nation's 'parched' farmlands and 'tinder box' conditions in Western forests as proof-positive of global warming."  Ken, in the midwest they're comparing the recent heavy rains to the flood of 1993, a so-called "500 year flood".  I'd bet the farm if it happens, that'll be global warming too.

Kansas Twisters and Global Warming

I wanted to respond to some points on this issue, not because I believe in human causing Global warming (I believe it is a hoax), but because I am an engineer and can't help my self.

Yes, there have been many deadlier tornadoes but that can be explained easily that our warning abilities are so much better.  Greensburg had 20 minutes of lead time to brace themselves (I was watching weather coverage as it occurred, I live in Andover, KS), while the Udall,KS tornado of 1955 (killed around 80 or so folks) had 20 seconds warning.  It was at night as well.

I do not buy the notion that any recent death increases warrent an explaination (like global warming).  If that stat were true, it could be explained that there are simply more people living and there more more populous centers, so chances would increaase that more population centers would be affected.

To compare the OK City tornado and the Greensburg tornado is pointless, because both were at the top of the ratings (even thought the EF rating system now has lower MPH thresholds).  Both destroyed everything in their path, that is the only comparison needed.  Estimates are based on damage only.  I do bet that accurate tornado wind speed measurements are in the near future (weather technology improving all the time).