Update (15:33): MRC/NB's Rich Noyes will be on Fox News at 4:15 p.m. to discuss this. Look for a new post shortly thereafter with video.
In a debate packed with silly questions and ones matching left-wing attack points on GOP candidates, in the first “Interactive Round” of questions submitted by the public on Politico.com, a co-sponsor of the debate, Mitt Romney got the most bizarre. The Politico Executive Editor Jim VandeHei, a Washington Post political reporter before jumping to The Politico earlier this year, found this one worth posing: “Daniel Dekovnick [sp phonetic] from Walnut Creek, California wants to know, 'What do you dislike most about America?'" Romney responded: “Gosh, I love America. I'm afraid I'm going to be at a loss for words...”(More questions below)
Video clip of VandeHei posing the “what do you dislike most about America?” question and Romney's response (45 secs): Real (1.3 MB) or Windows Media (1.5 MB), plus MP3 audio (260 KB)
Read past the jump for more oddball questions and a huge blog roundup.
The “Interactive Rounds” at the Republican presidential debate, from the Ronald Reagan Library in California and carried live on MSNBC, became an opportunity to raise hostile questions from a left-wing agenda or meant to embarrass the candidates (what's the difference between Shia and Sunni? How many have been killed or injured in Iraq? etc.)
Some of the other questions VandeHei chose to ask during the same round (about 25 minutes into the debate) in which he posed the whopper to Romney:
- To Rudy Giuliani, “Bradley Winter of New York would like to know if there's anything you learned, or regret, during your time as Mayor in your dealings with the African-American community?”
- To Mike Huckabee, “Thousands of reputable scientists have concluded, with almost certainty, that human activity is responsible for the warming of the Earth. Do you believe global warming exists?”
- Later, to Tom Tancredo: “Will you work to protect women's rights, as in fair wages and reproductive choice?”
Update (01:36 | Matthew Sheffield)
Moderator Chris Matthews, the long-time Democratic operative-turned journalist, also asked his fair share of ridiculous questions, bizarrely attacking White House aide Karl Rove and favorite target Scooter Libby. Regarding Libby, Matthews asked whether the former vice presidential aide deserved a pardon (he does not according to Matthews).
The "Hardball" host went hard after Rove, attempting to pressure former Virginia governor Jim Gilmore. "Is Karl Rove your friend," he asked, wondering whether Gilmore would even think of allowing the nefarious Rove in the White House. Gilmore rebuffed Matthews: "It isn't a matter of Karl Rove. What's important to this nation isn't Karl Rove."
VandeHei's question about Islam was a true stump-the-candidate moment which Giuliani handled fairly well. The tables were turned later in the debate when Matthews wrongly tried to correct Romney after the latter mentioned altered nuclear transfer as an alternative to fetal stem cells. Matthews appeared to think the former Massachusetts governor was talking about nuclear energy.
Things did not improve for Matthews. Near the end of the 90-minute plus session, he actually asked the candidates if they approved of the idea of having former president Bill Clinton back in the White House:
“Would it be good for America to have Bill Clinton back living in the White House?” he wondered.
Amazingly, no one agreed with him.
Surely Fox News would not have been so ridiculous to the Democratic candidates.
Other blog reactions (see more at Instapundit):
- Paul Mirengoff: "Giuliani didn't pander, but was less successful than McCain in giving answers that will appeal across the spectrum. Indeed, his statement that he would be ok with a Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade, but also with a decision continiuing to uphold it, leaves him pretty vulnerable, it seems to me."
- Mary Katharine Ham: "He still doesn't do it for me, but I'd say Romney probably came out on top. McCain and Giuliani didn't noticeably mess up, but their likeable, distinguishing characteristics got lost in the shuffle tonight. Romney doesn't have that 'it' factor that McCain and Rudy usually have, but he didn't disappoint anyone by showing up without it."
- Ed Morrissey: "Mitt Romney won this debate. He looked relaxed, answered clearly, showed real warmth and a sense of humor, and actually answered the questions asked of him -- even the stupid ones, to which I'll return shortly. After Romney, one has to think that Jim Gilmore and Mike Huckabee may have made some strides in breaking out of the third tier. They also showed that they could connect emotionally to the audience and give clear, thoughtful answers. [...] How did MSNBC and Politico perform? -- Poorly. The format guaranteed that we would learn next to nothing about these candidates. The Politico editor kept strolling all over the stage, asking questions from their on-line audience that were embarrassingly inane. Matthews's questions were better, but phrased in a manner that (a) seemed hostile, and (b) didn't allow for thoughtful answers."
- Stephen Green: "You know who Tancredo reminds me of? That TV character actor who was everywhere during the '70s and '80s. Lots of MASH appearances, I think. Can't remember his name. I'll look it up later. In the meantime, I keep expecting him to crack a broad smile and a bad joke, followed by a small hit of laugh-track."
- Ace: "The 30 second limit on answers pretty much guarantees the most scripted of soundbite campaign slogans. Interesting moments: Giuliani offers a 'nuanced' position on abortion, as Chris Matthews puts it (supporting NY state's decision to use taxpayer money to fund abortions, but supporting other states' rights to make a different decision; saying he hates abortions, but must respect a woman's right to 'choose another path'); McCain stating, as if it's a good thing, that he knows how to walk across the aisle to deal with Democrats as he's been doing it 'his entire career.' Yes, we know that, Senator. That's the problem.
- Erick Erickson: "John McCain won. Let's not dance around this. Mitt Romney shined, he stood out, he did well. Rudy Giuliani imploded. Rudy totally and utterly self-destructed tonight. He had many chances to get in good with the core base of Republican voters and ignored every moment. But McCain cuisine reigned supreme. He served up a dish of anger, a willingness to criticize, and a desire to fight — hard. But let's be honest. Who really won? Fred Thompson."
- Jonah Goldberg: "I hope Democrats, feminists and others are taking note that Chris Matthews's question about whether it would be good if Bill Clinton was back in the White House basically makes Hillary — the wife and actual candidate — the bit player."
- Jason Smith: "It’s still more than a year away and real life is passing us by while we decide which candidates had the best sound-bite material. It’s not as if the world’s problems can be solved by a bunch of polished politicos parading before television cameras responding to hostile and sometimes completely stupid questions by political opponents in under a 30 second time limit."
- David Weigel: "Matthews's devious 'ignore Ron Paul' plan backfires when Paul gets the last word in the debate. And yet afterwards, no one wants to talk to him - Romney dives offstage to mug with Nancy Reagan, and Paul is left huddling with Tancredo. It looks not unlike the Math Olympics team sitting at the back of homeroom as the popular kids talk about the awesome kegger at Todd's house this weekend."
- Ian Schwartz: "According to our poll, Drudge's poll, and many bloggers, Romney won the debate. I got to say, I'm not a Romney guy, but he came off as the winner to me. However, he also won the 'invoke Reagan as much as you can' award too. It would be interesting to see Fred Thompson debate this 'incomplete crowd.'"
- Sister Toldjah: "It was very tough to follow. Matthews was a terrible moderator and treated the candidates as though they were on Hardball, not debating. Chris, take pointers from your colleague Brian Williams next time, ok? You’re a lousy debate moderator. I don’t think there was any clear winner to the debates tonight because there was no rhyme or reason to the questioning."
- Mickey Kaus: "I guess I'm really not a Republican--or else Chris Matthews is an effective Dem saboteur--because the whole GOP field seemed weaker after the debate (just as the Dem field seemed stronger after its MSNBC debut). Judging just on affect, Blink-like, I thought McCain, Ron Paul, and Hunter did well. Giuliani a bit less well. Romney appears stiff and phony compared to the other front-runners. He made me want to go re-read Catcher in the Rye. Tancredo and Huckabee failed to make much of an impact at all. Brownback seemed to be talking about 50% of the time, but I can't remember a thing he said."
- Jim Addison: "I have to say also, without equivocation, that the MSNBC [sic] debate moderation team SUCKED. The questions were weak (not to mention often coming from a Democratic talking point memo perspective), and Chris Mathews exercised absolutely no control at all. [...] Former Governors Tommy Thompson and Jim Gilmore gave a good account of themselves, showing their experience and judgment. In a perfect world, such highly-qualified candidates would be very competitive, but we live here, and they aren't. Good show! to both of them, though, on their way out the door."
- Ann Althouse: "I confess to being moved to tears by Brownback talking about the sacredness of Terri Schiavo's life (even though I disagreed with what the Congress did). I'm impressed by the way this man believes what he believes and expresses this. But, of course, it would be a terrible mistake to make him the candidate."
Update (05-04 | Matthew Sheffield) I'm locking comments on this one. They're getting too numerous. Please move discussion to the open thread.
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What don't I like about Ameri
May 3, 2007 - 22:32 ET by Gat New YorkWhat don't I like about America?
Dumba$$ questions like that from left wing loons like you.
I was furious.I have posted o
May 3, 2007 - 22:49 ET by bigtimerI was furious.
I have posted on all of this from the beginning on the open thread, then Matthew put a blog on for us, and I posted a lot there too.
John Harris needs to get ****ed...along with Politico ...Matthews goes without saying...if the conservatives ever use msnbc again in the near future....I am going to go ballistic.
I hope others who post here saw all of this tonight...or catch it later.
I am checking out...take care all.
Oh lord, David Shyster is telling us the real truth now about what our candidates really said, and where they really lied...this inane blathering coming form one of the biggest outright liars on television.
nite BTSupreme Court, Nat
May 3, 2007 - 22:51 ET by botgnite BT
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, my litmous test for President. BT(adapted)
It was VandeHei not Harrus
May 3, 2007 - 22:57 ET by Brent BakerThe "what do you dislike most about America?" question was uttered by Jim VandeHei, in choosing to highlight that question from a poster on Politico.com, not John Harris. VandeHei was at the side of the stage by some computers. Harris paced on stage.
Brent Baker is VP for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center, where he writes the daily CyberAlert e-mail report.
The candidates must have know
May 3, 2007 - 23:03 ET by Gat New YorkThe candidates must have know they were walking into a hornets nest with Matthews and his crew - they were prepared - had great responses - and turned some dumb questions around on them to make them look foolish. I thought is was a great night for the GOP after so many months of attacks.
I thought the answer was supposed to be...
May 3, 2007 - 23:37 ET by SportPoliticsI thought the answer was supposed to be...
President Bush and his lying us into the quagmire in Iraq, and the whole neocon administration and loss of our rights and destruction of our country and what it stands for.
Gosh, I can get the answer right and I'm not even running.
So you thought the answer sho
May 3, 2007 - 23:39 ET by botgSo you thought the answer should be unsupportable fiction?
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botg - the answer is always 42.
May 3, 2007 - 23:45 ET by acaiguanabotg - the answer is always 42.
and...
Thanks for all the Fish.
Doug Adams (Dec)
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)
then the joke is 59?Supreme C
May 3, 2007 - 23:49 ET by botgthen the joke is 59?
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. . . or Halliburton - the
May 4, 2007 - 07:06 ET by Gat New York. . . or Halliburton - the great satin.
That's nothing. I'm "t
May 4, 2007 - 07:26 ET by sarcasmoThat's nothing. I'm "the great silk"! But now that they're officially a Dubai company, it would be funny-as-hell if Halliburton suddenly tried to buy-up a few US ports...
JMR
Yeah bogt
May 3, 2007 - 23:50 ET by SportPoliticsYeah bogt. I guess I could have said the disappearing middle class, the corporate extreme profiteering, the oil lords controlling Bush, the jews running our foreign policy, poor people, ketchup as a vegetable, racism, our shameful US history, our world hegemony, date rape, white men, and Ann Coulter, too. Sorry I fell short there.
You forgot the Reptilians in
May 3, 2007 - 23:53 ET by botgYou forgot the Reptilians in concert with Yeti using their mind-control.
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Ketchup as a vegetable?Deja v
May 3, 2007 - 23:58 ET by BlondeKetchup as a vegetable?
Deja vu, Ronnie.
Yes, Ronald Reagan's great contribution to school lunches
May 4, 2007 - 00:14 ET by SportPoliticsYes, Ronald Reagan's great contribution to school lunches. Ketchup counted as a vegetable. The libs argued about it, until a young 2 year old abandoned in the demo inner city district by his drug addled mother survived for days on ketchup packets he chewed open from the bottom refrigerator door shelf.
That's a sad story, but I sus
May 4, 2007 - 00:18 ET by BlondeThat's a sad story, but I suspect it is right on the money.
So what are the socialists going to do about it?
Raise our taxes (again?).
I always thought Ketchup as a veggie was funny. But it is....tomatos.
P.S. Why wasn't the drug addled mom in jail, and the kid in foster care or with relatives who wouldn't starve the kid? Just wondering.
That's weird. What the hell i
May 4, 2007 - 10:20 ET by Hero SquadThat's weird. What the hell is catsup? And why can it be spelled 10 different ways?
Unfortunately, it's probably the most vegetable kids these days are getting.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Politically, Romney handled t
May 3, 2007 - 23:17 ET by Tim GrahamPolitically, Romney handled that well, turning it around into high praise for America (never a bad answer in a GOP debate). But it would have been nice for him to say "journalists who think they're the ones running the country, and are the only ones with the brains to do it properly."
Agreed Tim.. but Romney should have said..
May 4, 2007 - 00:47 ET by Gary HallAgreed Tim.. but Romney should have said..
Well, before this very minute in time I would have had little to offer to such a question, but suddenly it comes to me. In this place where we come together today to openly debate what our visions for America are and what we feel so strongly about we open our hearts and our souls to every American citizen to ask of us those questions which they feel important to the future of our country and the welfare of our neighbors and friends -- you pose an insulting question. One not intented to address what the people are interested in hearing, but rather, one which so clearly presents your own bigotry and bias in others.
These are the people compet
May 4, 2007 - 13:28 ET by JDWThese are the people competing for the leadership chair of not only America but essentially the world. What if Romney had addressed the fact that both he and the others were present to confront the liberal media circus unlike the dems who ran from FOX? What if he included the fact that the leader of our senate has been identified as corrupt? In regard to journalists, who has addressed the treasonous affairs of the NYT? Why run from facts? If the news media wants to ask, then answer.
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
Because they were too busy an
May 4, 2007 - 13:41 ET by Gat New YorkBecause they were too busy answering inane questions like should there be an amendment to allow arnold to run for president; or what don't you like about america; or what do you think about the prospect of Billie back in the white house.
I hope that whomever is the GOP nominee has a chance to ask whomever is the Democrat nominee why should the american people believe that the dem candidate is capable of confronting all challenges when that person was afraid to confront the harmless challenge of debating on the FoxNews channel?
I did not watch.The few tra
May 4, 2007 - 14:12 ET by JDWI did not watch.
The few transcripts I read showed that conservatives confronted the questions they were asked. Most questions made us appear as the 'culture of corruption'. Image the same questioners inquiring as to how the candidates feel about Feinstein or Jefferson?
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
I'm sure the kids were giggli
May 3, 2007 - 22:43 ET by FishFace222I'm sure the kids were giggling and high-fiving each other after the debate.
I have one for him: How w
May 3, 2007 - 22:58 ET by ucI have one for him:
How we probably became viewed by Iraqies in 1993 once Clinton was in office. That Clinton didn't take us into Baghdad then or later in his term must have made us look having been "freedom knocking at their door" as the French would have looked during our revolution if they only sailed to our shores and didn't come in to assist >> and maybe could be seen partying for eight years just off our shores.
I thought maybe Clinton folks had something better in mind those days but now I don't.
How do we explain having been "freedom knocking at their door"? I know Clintons just blamed not going in on 41st President and am still waiting to hear how their not going in got justified. Would have fit well with the repairs to our own system or our "renaissance."
If there's any question as
May 3, 2007 - 23:00 ET by Tom1969caIf there's any question as to why the Dems won't debate on FoxNews, it's because they know they'd be treated there the way PMSNBC treated the conservative contenders - and we just couldn't have that, now, could we?
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If Hillary is the answer, it must've been a stupid question...
I must disagree, the MS treat
May 3, 2007 - 23:07 ET by botgI must disagree, the MS treatment is to ask deceptive, stupid, and trivial questions. I would hope that FOX would ask questions to reveal the true stands of the Dems. In the Dem debate what differences between them were revealed?
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The funny thing is FNC probab
May 3, 2007 - 23:09 ET by zfThe funny thing is FNC probably would have been a fairer and certaintly more intelligent venue.
The Democrats
May 3, 2007 - 23:28 ET by pbthinkerIn a word, the Democrats are pussies. Someone should put this debate on U-Tube with a header that says, Vote Republican, They'll Debate on Any Network and then add (Even with Chris Matthews as the moderator).
I wonder what would have happened, had he asked Van Der Hei a question to the effect that, with all the questions submitted to you to ask, why on earth would you ask a question like that?
Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Well, we must give credit whe
May 3, 2007 - 23:24 ET by BlondeWell, we must give credit where credit is due.
For not laughing out loud in the face of stupid questions....supreme self control should garner votes...a desirable trait in a presidential candidtate, yes?
Bstill it would have been nic
May 3, 2007 - 23:34 ET by botgB
still it would have been nice to hear one candidate begin their answer with
'Well, there you go again;'
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botg,I must admit...I didn't
May 3, 2007 - 23:37 ET by Blondebotg,
I must admit...I didn't watch it.
Didn't need to, at this point.
Wimps, sissies, and fraidy cats.
When is Fred Thompson going to hop in?
If not, I may have to pull a real "Alex" and leave the country. I am totally disgusted with the (R) congressional idiots here.
B,What do you mean by real co
May 3, 2007 - 23:44 ET by bigtimerB,
What do you mean by real congressional idiots here?
I am just curious.
Hunter did a great job, maybe you should of listened to it...Tancredo was okay too.
BT i thought you said goodnig
May 3, 2007 - 23:47 ET by botgBT i thought you said goodnight earlier? i also thought the (R) meant repubs
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bot, I did say good-night...t
May 4, 2007 - 00:01 ET by bigtimerbot,
I did say good-night...things change in life like a phone call...good or bad...
I am still laughing out loud about the real part when it comes to 'R' about republicans...what can I say...lol!
B...all I meant was when it comes to the 'R' congressional republicans that are running in my opinion they have more b#lls that most up there tonight. Hunter did great...he will not be given the attention he deserves tonight, he is great on the military, the borders and SC judges ect...he didn't stutter, he presented himself well...he is what he is on the floor on or on the stage tonight in a debate.
Romney did good too.
McCain and Giuliani did not.
Hunter/Thompson
Goodnight again BTSupreme Cou
May 4, 2007 - 00:04 ET by botgGoodnight again BT
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Sweet dreams and all that goo
May 4, 2007 - 00:08 ET by bigtimerSweet dreams and all that good stuff bot.
Catch ya later....
Not far behind ya.
Really...
Trust me...
lol
Thanks, BT,After a 3 day insa
May 4, 2007 - 00:09 ET by BlondeThanks, BT,
After a 3 day insane marathon, it's great to know I can come here and get the real opinion of what happened. Because it drives me bonkers to not know.
Obviously, I am very interested in politics, but sometimes my life overrides my interests. Thanks for keeping such an eagle eye on ALL of it (I know you are a C-SPAN junkie....you post so many important facts that are never reported elsewhere).
You're a front line warrior, even if you don't think so....thanks for all of your observations here.
I trust your insights, and opinions.
BT,The ones that are siding w
May 3, 2007 - 23:49 ET by BlondeBT,
The ones that are siding with the dems on the funding bill...and the ones who are buying into "Global Warming".
In short, the traitors.
I probably should have listened to it, but I've put in about 44 hours of work in the last three days, I am on my last nerve, just exhausted, and destressing here (where are the trolls for me to squash?????).
Thanks for the updates....when I see what you wrote, I know I don't have to backtrack it at all....I know you always speak the truth. Thanks, BT!
Blonde Saturday is coming s
May 3, 2007 - 23:57 ET by botgBlonde Saturday is coming soon take care, i'm out soon
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Blonde,i haven't yet seen it
May 3, 2007 - 23:44 ET by botgBlonde,
i haven't yet seen it either, but i am sure that bigtimer would have mentioned it if any of the candidates had smacked the questions for being stupid
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A Triangle has three sides, a square, four, do you bllieve pigs.
May 3, 2007 - 23:43 ET by acaiguanaA Triangle has three sides, a square, four, do you bllieve pigs can fly?
“Thousands of reputable scientists have concluded, with almost certainty, that human activity is responsible for the warming of the Earth. Do you believe global warming exists?”
Um....
Yes...
er...
No.
Huh?
I'm sorta pretty much burned out on these things.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)
What is teh flying speed of a
May 3, 2007 - 23:51 ET by Dan The Man 2What is teh flying speed of an African Swallow?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
With or without cocanuts?Supr
May 3, 2007 - 23:55 ET by botgWith or without cocanuts?
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But they're not migratory.~ ~
May 4, 2007 - 00:04 ET by Free StinkerBut they're not migratory.
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"George W. Bush simply reminds leftists everyday what they will never be. And they hate him for it." --Tammy Bruce
Republican Debate
May 4, 2007 - 01:18 ET by BritcomMatthews and the MSNBC team did a great job of making
the Republican Debate all about Democrat issues and Democrat
talking points. Why can't we have REPUBLICANS moderating and
asking the questions?? The GOP is just outraging its conservative
base by failing to avoid this kind of farce.
And Hunter and the others need to be SEEN telling the MSM
liberals that "Global Warming" is a SCAM, not a "problem".
Now let's get back to America and let the Democratic Party and
the MSM put themselves out of business and let's not have
any Republicans (Rudi) chasing after them as they go down the drain. The
Democratic Party is a dried out husk of a party on all the issues and
Republicans just can't seem to summon up the cojones to finally put
them out of their misery, and then, once and for all, lock out the liberal
MSM traitors. We don't need them.
Gaaad! How aggravating the political
dead-wood in the GOP can be,
I agree. It is bad enough we
May 4, 2007 - 05:27 ET by SouthJersey1953I agree. It is bad enough we have to listen to the liberal MSM every day, is it too much to ask to be able to hear the REPUBLICANS debate REPUBLICAN issues?
I would have loved to have one of them reply to at least one of the dumb questions like this:
"That is a stupid question that does not deserve my answer. Next?"
"You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think." - Milton Berle
The "quality" of
May 4, 2007 - 07:38 ET by sarcasmoThe "quality" of the questions reflects poorly either on all readers of "Politico.com" or on the question selectors. It would be fun to evaluate questions passed-over in favor of the "what do you hate about America" tripe, but I suspect the question-selectors won't fare too well if I do...
JMR
When will they ever learn?
May 4, 2007 - 06:32 ET by CaringwhiteguyWhen will they ever learn? Making nice to the enemy (someone who truly hates you, whether Ted Kennedy or MSNBC & Matthews) doesn't help much. This is especially true when the enemy's only goal is your destruction. Give me someone who will kick sand in Matthew's face. These guys seemed like excellent successors to George W. Bush.
Matthews is the best MSNBC ca
May 4, 2007 - 06:11 ET by Andrew H.Matthews is the best MSNBC can do? What a joke.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
What do I hate most about Ame
May 4, 2007 - 06:48 ET by Jo Jo BeanWhat do I hate most about America? Cynicism and out right contempt for American values in the main stream media.
Chris Matthews bias shows
May 4, 2007 - 07:00 ET by Pasco ConservativeChris Matthews questions were biased and inane.
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any
man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
-Unknown
I'm glad Weigel got the &qu
May 4, 2007 - 07:00 ET by sarcasmoI'm glad Weigel got the "ignore Paul" agenda (figures, since he's from Reason) and a Paul/Tancredo ticket of any sort would be an ideal RINO-alternative that could win Reagan-style, IMO. I thought Dr. Paul did well overall, but he could have done better on the emergency-situation question by concentrating either on one "I barely-saved a baby" story or on his principled decision against the Iraq War from the start. By trying to shoehorn two ideas into that short of a time he effectively got out neither, but he made up for that by forcing everyone to hear the truth for a change about inflation's effects on the poor. I found Romney to be the slickest talker -- which these days isn't a bad trait in a candidate, although it doesn't substitute for principles -- and Rudy remains the candidate who is scariest to me from a civil liberties perspective.
JMR
I was looking forward to hear
May 4, 2007 - 07:50 ET by fosstenI was looking forward to hearing from Ron Paul. I enjoyed some of the answers he gave, but honestly I suspect that he came off not so well to the mainstream audience. He didn't appear presidential, but rather a little irritable, and he apparently had either allergies or a cold, which caused him to sniff a lot. You could hear it even when the camera wasn't on him. I'm not putting down his politics, but rather emphasizing that comportment in a presidential race is an inevitable reality, and he doesn't come off well. I remember Steve Forbes had a similar experience, coming off as a wacky uncle instead of a presidential candidate.
I found myself drawn to several of the 'lesser' candidates and their answers, such as Gilmore and Huckabee. Romney was impressive, but he's not conservative enough for me. I thought McCain was exposed and Rudy's lisp was pronounced.
I just wish FRED! had been there. He would have cleaned house.
I was amazed that McCain, d
May 4, 2007 - 08:05 ET by sarcasmoI was amazed that McCain, despite his voting record, railed about fiscal responsibility... Sadly, the choice of Matthews as moderator combined with the rules prevented anyone from calling him on that one. I didn't find Paul irritable or allergic, but I think his answers should have been better focused/rehearsed. I agree that Romney comes off well, but I still think he has the principles and intellect of a Ken-doll. He clearly has the best make-up people. I hope Rudy's abortion answers effectively ended his campaign.
JMR
Quite honestly, the people wh
May 4, 2007 - 10:59 ET by Roger the ShrubberQuite honestly, the people who are going to use abortion as the litmus test on who should be president are a bit myopic. I made a quick list of issues that are much more important than abortion:
1. Iraq
2. War on Terror/Homeland Security
3. Economy
4. Immigration
5. Taxes
6. Gas/Fuel prices
7. Gov't corruption
8. Social Security
9. Health Care
10. Trade/Foreign policy
Issues #6-10 are interchangeable to me. Abortion isn't even on the radar. Neither is gun control or drug legalization or gay marriage, etc. There's much bigger fish to fry.
Unless maybe 1 & 7 comb
May 4, 2007 - 11:21 ET by sarcasmoUnless maybe 1 & 7 combined count for it, I don't detect any "spending" category, but needless to say our priorities aren't the same. For me, an explicit "spending" line-item would be number one by a LONGshot... Anyway, to me Rudy's Kerrik-mafia connections are more important, or maybe his stretching of RICO back when he was a USDOJ-shyster, but whatever it takes to derail that media-beloved control freak's campaign ASAP is all right with me.
JMR
Good point. I forgot gov't sp
May 4, 2007 - 12:36 ET by Roger the ShrubberGood point. I forgot gov't spending. That drops those minor issues down another notch.
As for our priorities not being the same, that is why you belong to a fringe party, and I don't.
And maybe why you forgot sp
May 4, 2007 - 14:11 ET by sarcasmoAnd maybe why you forgot spending and I didn't. But "fringe" doesn't seem to matter as much in light of today's MSNBC poll asskicking, because apparently America didn't forget spending, either... Heh heh heh. The media obviously didn't want it, as I've repeatedly shown on NB over and over, but the PEOPLE did something the news media didn't want 'em to do... Fun fun fun. I wonder if anyone in the media will deign to notice the weeks of bias I've been screaming-about against Paul? Or maybe MSNBC can employ the "solution" Pajamasmedia attempted to 0 media fanfare, and simply remove any Ron Paul choice??
JMR
Sarc, you make no sense. Try
May 4, 2007 - 14:50 ET by Roger the ShrubberSarc, you make no sense. Try to type when you aren't all whacked off, ok?
Roger - I agree with your i
May 4, 2007 - 11:48 ET by Gat New YorkRoger - I agree with your issues and in that order. I do think that the GOP are trying to make sure that Iraq is not as much of an issue by the end of the year as it has been and that the overall war becomes the major issue. On both, Democrats will not be able to hold their own in a general debate. Anti-war candidates are never elected President - not even during Vietnam.
Ron Paul
May 4, 2007 - 11:26 ET by fosstenAs far as I'm concerned, Ron Paul is out as a candidate for me. I went back over the transcript and realized that when asked about Scooter Libby, he said he should not be pardoned because he was part of the misleading that got us into Bush's 'phony war. ' The facts do not bear out such an accusation.
First of all, that's no reason for someone to stay in jail - despite being falsely convicted - because you accuse them of something else that has no basis in fact??? So he's really saying he doesn't want the guy pardoned because he doesn't like him! Never mind the fact that the trial was a sham and a railroad job.
Second of all, how do you figure Bush would decide not to pardon Libby because of Paul's reasoning, considering Bush would be culpable as well? Seems silly to me.
What do I hate most about Ame
May 4, 2007 - 08:55 ET by ArchConservativeWhat do I hate most about America? The fact that Chris Matthews still has a job, Rosie O'Donnell is considered "facinating", the fact that CNN/MsNBC/CNBC/ABC/NBC/CBS still have such sway over the American people, the fact that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are never questioned....but I digress.
1000's of reputable scientists? Name one Matthews. I can say that 1000's disagree with global warming. It's warming on Mars at the same rate, so are we responsible for that, too? You douchebag!
"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
- President George W Bush September 2001 speech to a joint session of Congress.
What a bunch of maroons! But
May 4, 2007 - 09:06 ET by BeowulfWhat a bunch of maroons! But what else could one expect from the network that actually pays idiots like Matthews, and even more so, Olberman, to spew their twisted "logic"??? I guess the "M" in MSNBC stands for Moonbats...
The Closed Mind Builds Strong Barriers
We shouldn't be to surprised
May 4, 2007 - 10:23 ET by Hero SquadWe shouldn't be too surprised that there was a bounty of "Do you still beat your wife?"-type questions at this debate.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
The interviewer should have
May 4, 2007 - 10:51 ET by MilesDThe interviewer should have asked them at the start:
"How do you want to make yourself look when you answer my one-sided questions? Do you want to make yourself look like a fool? Or a fascist? At least you get a choice, to tell the voters which one you are. If you don't want to tell them which one, we'll tell them for you."
What do I hate about America?
May 4, 2007 - 10:58 ET by jcrueHmmm, how about assinine negative assumptions like the one that assumes I hate something about America, after all, this isn't a DNC debate.
Next question please....
Sorry, but there is less 'doo
May 4, 2007 - 11:11 ET bySorry, but there is less 'dooNpoo' in the colon of a bull, than what came out of Romney's mouth, in response to that question. If you want to know what Romney is all about. Go to http://www.massresistance.com/ and see for yourselves what this, once governor of Massachusetts did to that state. Come on, let's not just vote for a man, because he wormed his way into the Republican party. ....Debra
What do I dislike about Ameri
May 4, 2007 - 13:32 ET by Prester JohnWhat do I dislike about America?
How about the fact that one political party has such hatred for a President that in time of a war against the most vicious, bloodthirsty, brutal enemy there is, can call American soldiers Nazis and KGB thugs and say the war is lost, all for supposed political gain.
A couple of good answers to t
May 4, 2007 - 13:33 ET by rubylensA couple of good answers to the Bill Clinton back in the White House question (though "You have got to be kidding" was in fact a pretty good response):
It would be great! I think he would decorate the White House beautifully by bringing back the furniture he stole; throw some humdinger parties; and work really hard to please the wives of visiting dignitaries.
or...
Oh, Bill Clinton won't be getting back in the White House. Even if Hillary wins, she's already said she's going to send him traveling as her "Ambassador to the World." You really think she'll let him near the White House?
ruby...ROFLMAO!Especially the
May 4, 2007 - 13:42 ET by bigtimerruby...
ROFLMAO!
Especially the first answer for me...
...thanks, nothing like laughter...and would of been perfectly priceless!
Talk about a sound-bite and a clip that would of been replayed as much as possible...on some network that is.
This is all very funny, bec
May 4, 2007 - 13:43 ET by Rupert CadellThis is all very funny, because of course there are things that these politicians, and all of you here, could find to dislike. The fact that more than half the population is against the war that you are for, for instance? That crass pop culture is winning out over Christian values? That it's so difficult to reconcile your love of free markets with your hatred of the MsM and what it chooses to produce for purely fiscal reasons? Wade being KOed by Roe?
Seriously though, imagine if someone had asked "What do you love most about America?" That sounds like a question for a junior beauty pageant contestant. The line of questioning here allows the candidates the opportunity to identify major problems they would like to work on and takes for granted that the country isn't perfect; the burden of doing so is thus off the candidate. Only a fool would reply "Nothing, this country is perfect."
Back to your regularly scheduled outrage...
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
Great post Rupert. A nice b
May 4, 2007 - 13:45 ET by LeonGreat post Rupert. A nice breath of fresh air on an otherwise stagnant Friday afternoon.
I never thought of that. How you can love the free market but hate the MSM. Does seem to be very counterintuitive doesn't it?
Hi Rup and Leon...How y'all d
May 4, 2007 - 13:49 ET by bigtimerHi Rup and Leon...
How y'all doin' ?
Hangin' on to the edge of the cliff still....
LMAO!
I don't even know what that m
May 4, 2007 - 13:50 ET by LeonI don't even know what that means.
Sweet comeback BT, I'd better
May 4, 2007 - 13:50 ET by Rupert CadellSweet comeback BT, I'd better go re-evaluate my position now. You've given me a lot to think about.
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
LOL, but did you really expec
May 4, 2007 - 13:54 ET by LeonLOL, but did you really expect anything more?
It wouldn't be a bad idea for you lay those questions out in the open thread and see if you get any meaningful responses.
Be careful not to let loose w
May 4, 2007 - 13:55 ET by bigtimerBe careful not to let loose with both hands at once...
LOL...
Nope, still not getting it.
May 4, 2007 - 13:57 ET by LeonNope, still not getting it. Perhaps it's just going over my head. Should I stand up?
"I'm liberal, but to a
May 4, 2007 - 14:00 ET by Dave R"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free."
Well, I'm a libertarian, and I want everyone to be free, too, but not just to a degree. I want them to be free 100%.
Anything less is not freedom.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-
Neal Boortz.
Hear Hear. Well said.I didn
May 4, 2007 - 14:06 ET by LeonHear Hear. Well said.
I didn't know you were a libertarian. That's interesting. I had you pegged as a regular old new age conservative (i say new age, because true conservatism died with this administration).
Good to know. Now i can read your posts in a more accurate context.
"true conservatism die
May 4, 2007 - 14:12 ET by Matthew Sheffield"true conservatism died with this administration"
Said the liberal.
Isn't it nice how libs are so willing and helpful to decide what true conservatism is?
And where exactly did Leon pr
May 4, 2007 - 14:17 ET by Rupert CadellAnd where exactly did Leon profess his liberalism?
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
Man, you are dishing out the
May 4, 2007 - 14:47 ET by Roger the ShrubberMan, you are dishing out the laughs today. Or are you unintentionally being stupid?
Am I wrong? Big government
May 4, 2007 - 14:18 ET by LeonAm I wrong? Big government and rampant spending seem to be the antithesis of conservatism.
Furthermore, I fail to see how my political leanings have any impact on the truth of my statement.
because true conservat
May 4, 2007 - 14:52 ET by Dave Rbecause true conservatism died with this administration
Just like classical liberalism, which was based on the libertarian model, pretty much died shortly after Willie Jeff took office, and has since been replaced with modern liberalism (which is based primarily on the Marxist/Leninist model) and is now in control of the Democrat Party.
While I agree that GWB is certainly no true conservative in the mould of Ronald Reagan, I wouldn't count them out just yet, as I believe that true conservatism is still alive and well in this country and that language, borders and culture still mean a great deal to a majority of Americans. I continue to see that reflected in much of the polling data flying around out there. The only problem is, for the time being at least, the leadership of both major parties (politicians all) sees those illegals coming north as future votes, and thus aren't listening. I believe that will change.
For the moment, the liberal MSM is doing all it can to promote RINOs like McCain, Guliani and others, but the next election is still a long way off.
If Fred Thompson, Newt, Tancredo and a few others oriented towards the true conservative side of the spectrum jump in in a serious way, either as candidates, or in Newt's case as an advisor, we just may have a whole new ballgame on our hands.
Personally, I think the dems are scared to death of a Fred Thompson candidacy, which is why their dogwashers in the MSM are falling all over themselves promoting RINOs.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-
Neal Boortz.
Time for Dave R's lesson in
May 4, 2007 - 14:08 ET by Rupert CadellTime for Dave R's lesson in syntax. "to a degree" refers to the clause "I'm liberal." Note how both parts of the sentence precede the semi-colon. Thus, the sentiment is that an excess of liberalism does NOT allow everyone to be free. "To a degree" does not have any bearing on the extent to which each person actually is free.
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
There are nuances to it, to
May 4, 2007 - 13:49 ET by Rupert CadellThere are nuances to it, to be sure, but it does seem as though an Ayn Rand-esque feeling toward capitalism is all well and good around here until the free market happens to step out of the conservative line.
Case in point: Imus. If you believe he was fired because the company is such a bastion of political correctness and racial harmony, I got a bridge to sell ya.
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
The most interesting aspect
May 4, 2007 - 13:53 ET by LeonThe most interesting aspect of many Americans is their incredible ability to ignore blatant hypocrisies. This free market example is perfect. We want the market to drive all things, but as soon as the market presents us with ideas that go against our beliefs, we want them to stop.
I don't get it. I'm interested to see if anyone actually attempts to respond to your post or if they'll simply attack you. While I'd like to hear an explanation for this clear hypocrisy, I'm sure we won't get it.
Haha, well since my post ap
May 4, 2007 - 13:59 ET by Rupert CadellHaha, well since my post apparently resembles a burning flag and an effigy, I guess we got as good an answer as we're gonna. Seriously, in the past, the conservatives on here have usually at least engaged with the content of my posts, however ham-fistedly. And this one wasn't even inflammatory!
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
Well your questions are dead
May 4, 2007 - 14:02 ET by LeonWell your questions are dead on, and one of the most interesting parts of your post is what triggered it. Why is asking a presidential candidate what he dislikes most about America so offensive?
Are they not supposed to dislike anything? Why would I want a president that doesn't thing that there is any need for change at all? Certainly he can't think we've reached optimal performance in America.
It's wrong because a) it wa
May 4, 2007 - 14:19 ET by Matthew SheffieldIt's wrong because a) it was phrased in a derogatory manner. You wouldn't ask a man "so what do you like the least about your wife?" in a public setting. It's simply disrespectful to him and his wife. "What would you improve with the country" is a better phrase.
b) It implies a liberal mind-set behind the question selection. You are a liberal so your sensibilities are exactly the same as those who picked the question. The question is the equivalent of asking a Democrat "Give me some examples of how your party is overly suspicious of the free market."
Of course, no liberal media moderator would ever ask this question.
Oh please, now we just don'
May 4, 2007 - 14:25 ET by Rupert CadellOh please, now we just don't like the phrasing? It's nothing like asking that question about someone's wife. Conservatives have plenty to criticize about, they're just afraid that if they actually use a negative adjective or verb in the same sentence as "America" they might be branded anti-American, is that it?
Oh wait, they invented that game!
"I'm liberal, but to a degree; I want everyone to be free." -B. Dylan
1) I don't see the connecti
May 4, 2007 - 14:31 ET by Leon1) I don't see the connection with the wife question at all. Asking about someone's wife is not the same as asking them about their country. America isn't the mother of my children or the woman I sleep next to in bed every night.
2) Ok, so how would you improve your country might be a better way to phrase the question, but certainly, it could be argued the person asking the question was looking for a more passionate, less political response. What do you hate about your country? It's a much more direct and personal question than how would you improve the country.
3) I still don't see how this is a liberally biased question. It is extremely vague, open-ended, and non-specific. He could have said anything. The example of the Democrat equivalent again is not even comparable to the original question asked. The moderator didn't ask "What do you hate most about Bush's mismanaged war". If he had asked this or something more specific, I could see your point.
Seriously, I'll buy your argument that it was a bad question, but I fail to see how it's biased. In fact, it's a perfect opportunity for any presidential contender to bring up a topic important to his platform. It's a free pass. What do I hate? I hate businessowners employing illegal immigrants with little or no ramifications. I hate people trying to tell me I can't have my handguns. I hate homosexuals trying to erode the institution of marriage. I hate activist judges misinterpreting the constitution. I hate that the football season in America isn't all year long. I hate that Anna Nicole Smith gets more coverage in the news than our brave troops. I hate bus exhaust in July in Manhattan. Whatever. They could have said anything.
I understand your confusion a
May 4, 2007 - 14:44 ET by rubylensI understand your confusion about how the question is biased--it wasn't overtly so. But the question is very offensive to conservatives because our minds do not automatically go in the direction of America-hatred. We associate that with a liberal mindset. Many far-left "progressives" genuinely hate (or at least strongly dislike) America and what it stands for in the world. They think we are bullies and that we deserve defeat and punishment for all our sins. We conservatives passionately believe just the opposite. Though we acknowledge that our country has flaws and is far from perfect, we believe that the United States has brought far, far more good to the world than bad. Without the United States and its example of liberty and capitalism, a huge portion of the humans on this planet would have worse lives than they do now.
Though we may seem bitter and angry to you, conservatives are in fact optimists with a great deal of faith in our great nation and its people. Asking us what we dislike most about America is like asking us to turn our brains upside down. It was just a stupid and offensive question. That's all.
I hear what you are saying, b
May 4, 2007 - 14:55 ET by LeonI hear what you are saying, but it's a little over the top. This sensitivity you're displaying, while it demonstrates your love of your country, seems to me to be a little wishy-washy and impracticle.
Certainly there are things you dislike strongly about America. You're allowed to talk about them. That's what makes America great.
America-hatred is no more a liberal mindset than America-love is a conservative mindset. You're fallling into the trap of generalizing based on stereotypes. Everybody regardless of their political affiliations hates things about America. From what I've seen on this site it's safe to say that there is plenty of hatred of America on the right, you just think it's different b/c it's hatred directed towards "liberal" aspects of America.
Asking you what you dislike most aobut America is like asking you to turn your brains upside down? That's insane. There's plenty you dislike and this site is a perfect embodiment of that. Please, this is absurd.
It's all in the eye of the be
May 4, 2007 - 14:08 ET by bigtimerIt's all in the eye of the beholder Rup.
It's so strange to me but I e
May 4, 2007 - 14:17 ET by LeonIt's so strange to me but I even don't understand this. It must be the canned response stuff I'm not getting.
I could be wrong but your comment doesn't seem to have anything to do with Rupert's post. Excuse us while we attempt to have a discussion.
"A nice breath of fres
May 4, 2007 - 13:54 ET by MightyMouth"A nice breath of fresh air"
Smells more like flag and effigy burning to me.
I think you are missing the point of this site. No one really hates the MSM, we hate the bias.
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