Should Americans Support Media’s Desire for the Rich to Get Poorer?

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As the stock market has continued to regularly make new highs in 2007, how many times have you heard or read a media report carping about how the rich are getting richer?

Quite a bit, right?

If you feel bombarded with such inanities, consider that a completely unaudited LexisNexis search of major American media outlets identified 234 reports which included phrases like “rich get richer,” “income inequality,” “wealth disparity,” etc., since January 1.

Add it all up, and that’s almost two a day.

A fine example of this nauseating mantra was demonstrated by CBS’s Charles Osgood on “Sunday Morning” April 15:

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Squeezed is what a lot of middle class Americans are these days, running as fast as they can just to keep up financially.”

Another goodie came from the New York Times’ Paul Krugman on April 27 (subscription required, emphasis added): “Income inequality -- which began rising at the same time that modern conservatism began gaining political power -- is now fully back to Gilded Age levels.”

Krugman predictably argued: “You might have thought that in the face of growing inequality, there would have been a move to” – wait for it – “raise taxes on the rich.”

Isn’t that always the answer?

However, there’s a question these jealous journalists never ask: Would it actually be good if the rich got poorer?

For instance, what would make a rich person get poorer? There really are only three answers, correct? A serious economic contraction, a bear market in stocks, or a real estate collapse, right?

To be sure, the poor and the middle class don’t do well in a recession or depression. Do you think they fare any better when stocks or real estate decline?

Let’s examine this exclusively from an employment perspective, shall we?

The last bear market in stocks began in September 2000, and bottomed with a roughly 50 percent decline in the S&P 500 by March 2003. During that period, the nation lost about two million non-farm payroll jobs, with the unemployment rate going from 3.9 percent to 5.9 percent.

Clearly during this phase, the rich getting poorer didn’t help anybody else.

In the previous bear market in 1990 that began after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, and included a serious nationwide real estate contraction as well, what was a 5.5 percent unemployment rate peaked at 7.8 percent almost two years later.

Finally, the bear market in the early ’80s saw unemployment go from 7.5 percent to 10.8 percent.

Doesn’t look like the rich getting poorer does anything good for the poor or middle class, does it?

Yet, conversely, employment does quite well during bull market phases. For instance, from the stock market’s bottom in August 1982, to its interim peak in July 1990, the unemployment rate went from 9.8 to 5.5 percent, with the economy adding more than 20 million non-farm jobs.

The nation expanded payrolls by nearly 24 million during the ’90s bull market, with the unemployment rate dropping from 7 percent down to 3.9 percent.

And, although this bull market is not over, a roughly 6 percent unemployment rate at the beginning of the rally has already dropped to 4.4 percent with almost 8 million new non-farm jobs added.

With this in mind, does it seem at all reasonable to want the rich to get poorer?

In fact, looking at these numbers, shouldn’t we instead hope they constantly get richer and richer and richer?

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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One man's successes do not ro

One man's successes do not rob another's opportunities for success...in fact, more opportunities for success are created.

Middle-class and "poor" people would also do well to live within their means. A little bit of money goes a long way when it isn't spent before you even earn it.

"Yeah, right! Who's the only one here that knows illegal ninja moves from the government?!" --Napoleon Dynamite

Again, well put Gene.  Class

Again, well put Gene.  Class Envy survives for a few reasons.  First, Americans by and large suffer from just a general understanding of how wealth is created in a market economy.  Democrats love to prattle on about the "rich" as those if someone has $1 MM, some poor sap has to be $1 MM in the whole.  The Zero Sum Game theory is bunk - to paraphrase Cal Thomas there is not a fixed amount of wealth that must be shared equally or we will all starve to death.  But the Left loves to perpetuate that myth.

Second is that so many people don't understand how folks in this country every day go from rags to riches by simply working hard and taking advantage of the enormous amount of opportunity that exists.  My Brother in Law came here from Italy, his dad had almost no money in his pocket when he did.  My Brother in Law didn't finish high school even - he now owns three restaraunts in the Chicago area.  He has a very very comfortable lifestyle.  It happens everyday, but too many people have so much pessimism.

In the end, we are the sum total of the decisions we make in life.  SOme people make the decision not to work as hard and long and invest as much as others, and they are not as successful.  The secret is to stop being obsessed with the wealth of others and become wealthy yourself.  Don't hate the rich, emulate them.  You can do it - and you'll be much better off than sitting around eaten up with envy.

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MeanG, adding to your comment

MeanG, adding to your comment -- when people become wealthier in this country, they usually do two things -- spend their money, and contribute to charity. In both cases, this helps the not-so-rich by increasing the employment, and softening the cushion for those that are down-and-out. NO WAY would the Government contribute to this type of dynamic with additional tax dollars. Yet people like Crudman either don't see this (because they're blind) or are simply lying about it (because they have an agenda).

analysis

The analysis I would like to see is related to this topic. A few years ago when Enron went under and the market went down we saw many media stories about how people lost their 401K's value and other market-tied retirement investments were eradicated.  Well, how about some stories about how people are making a lot of money now in their market-tied retirement plans?

Also, how about a story regarding Bush's voluntary 5% privatization of Social Security that was tied to the stock market.  If his plan had been put in place a few years ago, what would the result be now?

Hello MSM, can you hear me?  Hello?  Hellllllllooooooooo?

Who Pays America's Tax Burden,

Who Pays America's Tax Burden, 
and Who Gets the Most Government Spending?by Scott A. Hodge, Gerald Prante and Andrew Chamberlain
Special Report No. 151
March 26, 2007

Executive Summary: While many studies answer the question of who pays taxes in America, the question of who gets the most government spending is often overlooked. Just as some Americans bear a larger portion of the nation's tax burden than others, some Americans also receive a larger share of the nation's government spending.

This report summarizes the key findings of a comprehensive 2007 Tax Foundation study of federal, state and local taxes and government spending. The results show that when we consider the distribution of government spending as well as taxes, it provides a dramatically altered view of how U.S. fiscal policy affects Americans at different income levels than is apparent from the distribution of tax burdens alone.

Overall, we find that America's lowest-earning one-fifth of households received roughly $8.21 in government spending for each dollar of taxes paid in 2004. Households with middle-incomes received $1.30 per tax dollar, and America's highest-earning households received $0.41. Government spending targeted at the lowest-earning 60 percent of U.S. households is larger than what they paid in federal, state and local taxes. In 2004, between $1.03 trillion and $1.53 trillion was redistributed downward from the two highest income quintiles to the three lowest income quintiles through government taxes and spending policy.

These findings suggest tax distributions alone do not tell Americans how much the nation's fiscal system is helping or hurting low-income households. To answer that, we must look beyond tax burdens to government spending as well. Lawmakers who ignore the distribution of govern-ment spending risk making policy judgments based on an incorrect set of facts about the United States fiscal system.

Full Report: Who Pays Taxes and Who Receives Government Spending?
Read the PDF: Working Paper No. 1

Using typical marxist tactics

A key weapon of marxism/socialism is to divide the population into "classes" and then pit the large "poor" class or "working class" against the much smaller "rich" or "wealthy" class in order to promote the idea of wealth redistribution.

The government is mandated by the Constitution to treat all citizens equally regardless of their background, religion, or financial status (equal protection - 14th amdmnt). Therefore a progrssive income tax system is, IMO, unconstitutional.

I am starting to think that all liberal journalism schools have a program to actively expunge any possible knowledge or understanding of the Constitution and to actively discourage the reading of it.

Part of the basis of the ta

Part of the basis of the tax the rich thing is to milk the rich during good times for a lot of money, the big fault of this is the amount they get also falls during an economic downturn when revenue stability is most desired.

Also it has been well proven that tax cuts encourage greater effort and result in higher total revenue.

Rich as rich as in 2000?

Loud complaints in the MSM - CEO's making more. Working class falling behind. But back in the roaring late 1990's - "the Clinton era," this was great stuff. In fact most of the media and the left are always talking about, "oh, can't it be like it was then?." Well , it is. give or take a bit,here or there -- this looks like a retracement of the late 90's - the media loved it then, why not now?

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Now, why is this more painful for the press now, then in the "roaring late 90's?"

“Squeezed is what a lot o

Squeezed is what a lot of middle class Americans are these days, running as fast as they can just to keep up financially.”-Charles Osgood

Frankly, I don't think the "middle class" is in the shape it's in (if it's bad) because of Bill Gates or any other multimillionaire. I think a lot of it can be traced to wanting too much too soon. No one wants to wait for anything any more. I have seen too many young couples get married and buy a house right away. Not a starter house, a brand new house for $250,000 or more. And of course, they have to have two cars. And then they have a baby, and they whine that they would love to have Mom at home with the baby, but they simply can't do that and still make ends meet. That's why they're running and getting nowhere.

Well motherbelt

Well motherbelt, everyone knows that unless you're a multi-millionaire you're not "middle class" anymore, or at the very least, you're beaten down and unable to make it. People nowadays spend 5 times what their parents did in half the time, and still it's not enough. Oh well, apparently the constant whining keeps driving the actual lifestyle level higher and higher, while the complaints get shriller and shriller.

That's right, and if your i

That's right, and if your income is over about $60,000 a year (I'm not sure where the exact cutoff is) you're not one of the "working families." Doesn't matter if you work 16 hours a day...."working families" is defined by income level.

I wish someone had asked Osgood "If Bill Gates suddenly lost his fortune, how would that make anyone else in the US better off?"

Answer: (which Osgood would never voice): It wouldn't, but it would make them feel better.

Edison, Ford, Gates.I laugh

Edison, Ford, Gates.
I laughed when I saw Billy G: a sincere liberal Philanthropist.
He isn't profiteering from the Microsoft Legacy that is "worth" trillions and going up, imho.
Regardless of personal ideology, achievers lift all boats.

Randy

1st post... back to loitering

You miss their point

Ah, but they don't want the Rich to get pooer through reduced income.  They want them to get poorer through the Government taking more of their income to redistribute to those who are poor!  See, the Rich are supposed to keep working for all that money just so they can have more of it taken away!  That's the Socialist method.  Work hard and earn less for your efforts.  Work even harder and realize even less!  Now isn't that a great incentive to work harder?  Or is the real incentive to be one that doesn't work hard and still reaps the beneifits of those who do work hard?  Hmmm, maybe we should look into that incentive.  Don't work and still get paid!

Great Post Noel!  And Thanks

Great Post Noel!  And Thanks,  jdhawk, and thanks Gary Hall..  great posts with excellent information regarding who pays and who receives. 

This is particularly shocking to me: In 2004, between $1.03 trillion and $1.53 trillion was redistributed downward from the two highest income quintiles to the three lowest income quintiles through government taxes and spending policy.

The pic of Bill Gates prove

The pic of Bill Gates proves one thing for sure... he hasn't changed much....

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

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