How Will Media Report Massive Turkish Protests Against Islamic-Rooted Government?

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In case you hadn’t heard, there was a huge protest in Turkey on Sunday as reported by the Associated Press (h/t NBer Gary Hall and LGF, emphasis added throughout):

At least 300,000 Turks waving the red national flag flooded central Istanbul on Sunday to demand the resignation of the government, saying the Islamic roots of Turkey's leaders threatened to destroy the country's modern foundations.

Given the American media’s predilection towards never wanting to write or say anything that could possibly offend Muslims, an interesting question is raised regarding how they will report this story.

Regardless of the answer, the article continued:

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Like the protesters — who gathered for the second large anti-government demonstration in two weeks — Turkey's powerful secular military has accused Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of tolerating radical Islamic circles.

"They want to drag Turkey to the dark ages," said 63-year-old Ahmet Yurdakul, a retired government employee who attended the protest.

More than 300,000 people took part in a similar rally in Ankara two weeks ago.

Fascinating. The article also gave some historical context:

In the 1920s, with the Ottoman Empire in ruins, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk imposed Western laws, replaced Arabic script with the Latin alphabet, banned Islamic dress and granted women the right to vote.

The ruling party, however, has supported religious schools and tried to lift the ban on Islamic head scarves in public offices and schools. Secularists are also uncomfortable with the idea of Gul's wife, Hayrunisa, being in the presidential palace because she wears the traditional Muslim head scarf.

"We don't want a covered woman in Ataturk's presidential palace," said Ayse Bari, a 67-year-old housewife. "We want civilized, modern people there."

Yet, maybe most importantly, Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs noted: “The article above seriously understates the attendance at this rally; there were more than a million people.”

As reported by Agence France-Presse under the headline “More than one million rally in Turkey for secularism, democracy” (emphasis added):

More than one million people took part in a mass rally here Sunday in support of secularism and democracy amid a tense stand-off between the Islamist-rooted government and the army over presidential elections.

Once again, how will America’s media report this potentially historic development, and what numbers will they share in terms of attendance?

Stay tuned.

*****Update: Gateway Pundit identified that Reuters is now also reporting the crowd as being "up to a million."

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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How Did Fundamentalist Muslims Win in Turkey Again?

How did fundamentalists win the election again and actually how many are they in Turkey?
- Prime minister's party(AKP), used government's money from the county's budget and they started delivering millions of help packages (show packages), before the election, door to door in poor neighborhoods in every city of Turkey. Those ridiculus help packages contains some food, cleaning stuff or either $100 worth supermarket shopping coupons...etc. (By the way when your middle class turns under poverty and education line, like in Turkey today, show packages works great for twisting minds.
- Extremist muslims of Turkey is about 10 Million today. Whole entire Turkey is 75-80 Million. The other reason why their party won the election is ; It's just because of our stupid election system. We have a minimum %10 level. Let's say if your party's votes are less than %10 of all voters, your party is not qualified to get in to the parliament. So there are millions of people can't represent themselves. Right now, there are only three parties in our parliament. 1'st: Government's Extreme religious  party (AKP), 2'nd: Ataturk's Socialist Left Party (CHP) and 3'rd: Nationalist party (MHP) which is also extreme right and nationalist. Rest of the voters are flushed-down the toilet.
-One another reason is; U.S. and E.U. governments love our government.Because they have been doing whatever US and EU dictates on Turkey (such as, giving up about Northern Cyprus, giving more rights in the Agean to the Greeks, giving an independent state to the Kurds, Accepting a "So Called Armenian Genocide", and maybe giving them a land as they expected, naming a christian orthodox clown "Ecumenical Patriarch" as he wanted. And easily letting western world to grab our natural sources.(Turkey has %70 of bore minerals "borax" of the world. Turkey has huge water sources that all the middle east use today) So, since we got that puppet government, IMF artificially keep our economy stable and they make our thief businessmen and our uneducated morons happy. Wouldn't you love this government?
-As many of you see, the truth is ; Our government and western governments get along very well.Their common point is to destroy westernized educated Turkey, to set an "Islamic Democracy" and to get rid of the military. By doing these successfully you'll have another "banana republic" that serves and feeds the system. (by the way there's no such thing called "Islamic Democracy" a word "Democracy" and "Islam" are totally opposite things from each other. It's ridiculus made up lable) Soon we will have a new president. The big question is : Will we have a President with a head-scarved wife or not? Because if we will, that's going to be a first president of Turkey with that attitude. It's "a milestone" for extremist muslims of Turkey.

I heard about this early this

I heard about this early this morning, I know it will be down-played though...we can't have any of this now can we?

I never heard about the first protest two-weeks ago...ahhh the good old media and what they think is important to us all.

Going against the Islamic rooted govt. is not going to be headlines, not much anyway...why just because a million people are marching and protesting for secularism and democracy...why that is not important to the leftists here, it goes against everything they want with their agenda.

so true, so true... makes u

so true, so true... makes u really wonder, what IS the leftist agenda?? is it really just about PC-ness with them? The hiprocracy exposes what phonies they are.... where's the courage of their "convictions" ? (and I put that word in quotes for a reason :p)

You have to distinguish betwe

You have to distinguish between the Leftist agenda and the Liberal Media agenda.  The Leftists want one-world socialist government, the Liberal Media want to promote the Democrat Party.   Their coverage of this would be radically different if a Democrat were in the White House.

The Turks are defending their

The Turks are defending their secular political heritage against conservative religious fanatics in a Muslim culture. And you assume that American Liberals are on their side?

No, let's get this straight. American Liberals are defending their secular political heritage against conservative religious fanatics in a Christian culture. We have far more in common with secularists that want to keep fundamentalism out of the government than you do. Regardless of faith.  

 American Liberals are defen

 American Liberals are defending their secular political heritage against conservative religious fanatics

Mob    backwards again as 'their secular political heritage' goes back to the 50s-60s  when the SC made certain rulings without precedent.  In 1898 the SC ruled that 'this is a Christian Nation'

No, let's get this straight.

No, let's get this straight. American Liberals are defending their secular political heritage against conservative religious fanatics in a Christian culture. We have far more in common with secularists that want to keep fundamentalism out of the government than you do. Regardless of faith.  

Yeah, that devil Pat Robertson and his gang forcing women to cover up from head to toe or be beaten or killed, rounding up non-believers, imprisoning them, torturing them, cutting off hands and women's genitals, sending out young Christian men to blow themseves up while killing the non-believer, AND THE BEHEADINGS ... That darned Christian "convert or die" doctrine is so fascist!!!  Crikey! When will it end???!!!!

I hope the American Liberals save us all before it's too late!

The color "red"

Sometimes, the color red looks better than other times. gh

FREEDOM

Oh my, yet another Islamo-led country in that troubled part of the world appears to be falling to the Bush plan of individual freedom and personal liberty.  Now what was that the demediacrats keep preaching to us about?  Something about Bush damaging our image abroad?

Maybe instead of spinning democrat(ic) talking ponts the demediacrats should try reporting the words of President Bush:

"Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe -- because in the long run, stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. As long as the Middle East remains a place where freedom does not flourish, it will remain a place of stagnation, resentment, and violence ready for export. And with the spread of weapons that can bring catastrophic harm to our country and to our friends, it would be reckless to accept the status quo."

"Therefore, the United States has adopted a new policy, a forward strategy of freedom in the Middle East. This strategy requires the same persistence and energy and idealism we have shown before. And it will yield the same results. As in Europe, as in Asia, as in every region of the world, the advance of freedom leads to peace."

"The advance of freedom is the calling of our time; it is the calling of our country. From the Fourteen Points to the Four Freedoms, to the Speech at Westminster, America has put our power at the service of principle. We believe that liberty is the design of nature; we believe that liberty is the direction of history. We believe that human fulfillment and excellence come in the responsible exercise of liberty. And we believe that freedom -- the freedom we prize -- is not for us alone, it is the right and the capacity of all mankind."

Remarks by the President at the 20th Anniversary of the National Endowment for Democracy November 6, 2003United States Chamber of Commerce
Washington, D.C.

The above is some truth to ponder while we await the demediacrats receiving their democrat talking points to answer Noel's question: "How will media report Turkish protests against Islamic-rooted government?"

acumen...Beautiful.

acumen...

Beautiful.

"Sixty years of Western

"Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe -- because in the long run, stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty.

That would most certainly include Saudi Arabia, home of Wahabbi, 9/11 terrosists and the House of Saud- good business partners of the Bush clan and  the most repressive Islamic Kingdom in the world. Not to mention the Bin Ladens.

The question and problem is not how the MSM will react- it is that you look for news in the MSM. Go to some real news sourcing instead of this lazy speculation BS. Do you really think your average Dem or Lib would like Turkey to go Islamic? The Gateway to the West? Hardly. The only other secular and muslim-majority country in the region was Iraq. I think the neocons did a fine job of screwing that up- thank God the Turks, since 1923, have figured out they won't go that route. God Bless the secularists- of all religions.

Mob--rather ironic that you i

Mob--rather ironic that you invoke God to bless the secularists who often don't believe in God or see themselves as God.

Backatcha Mobius

Talk about "lazy speculation BS", did you bother to read the link I provided? No?  Well let me help you. From the linked speech by President Bush;

Bush - "The Saudi government is taking first steps toward reform, including a plan for gradual introduction of elections. By giving the Saudi people a greater role in their own society, the Saudi government can demonstrate true leadership in the region."

Did this happen prior to a strong-willed leader like Bush showing he meant biz in the ME?  No.

Or how about this latest developement from the LA Times (real news source remains questionable) - Saudi Arabia Arrests 172 Terrorist Suspects.  Sounds like improvement to me.

Did this happen prior to a strong-willed leader like Bush showing he meant biz in the ME?  No.

Mobius - "The question and problem is not how the MSM will react..."

The question is precisely how the MSM will react Mobius simply because anything that is shown to be a positive for Bush has time and time again been twisted (torture/domestic spying by NSA), misreported (koran flushing) or downplayed (successful economy/tax cuts).

Mobius - "I think the neocons did a fine job of screwing that up...."

It's interesting to note that you place the blame for the mess in Iraq on neocons and not the do-nothing Clinton animal house or a blood-thirsty dictator that set up a Wahabi form of government - hardly secularist.  But don't take my word for it, just ask the relatives of those murdered under Saddam for the offense of simply being born Shia.  However it is telling to see the world through your BDS tunnelvision.

It's equaly interesting to note that you give credit for religious freedom to the Turks while completely ignoring the fact Turkey's government is doing everything in their power to project an Islamo-fascist form of the Muslim religion on their disgruntled citizens - remember the under-reported protests in Turkey that started this thread?

Mobius - "Do you really think your average Dem or Lib would like Turkey to go Islamic?" 

First of all, the government of Turkey has ALL READY gone Islamo-fascist - er, that's the reason for the protests by the citizens of Turkey.  Second point - from what I have witnessed, the average Dem or Lib doesn't have enough common sense to form an independent thought.  When their Dem handlers develop an opinion I remain confident that opinion will be based on what will keep them in power, not the advantages or disadvantages of the citizens of Turkey calling upon their Islamo-fascist government to stop infringing their freedoms.

Mobius - "Go to some real news sourcing...."

Talk about speculating, what makes you think I don't?  These are among the many news sources I frequent and recommend for news directly from those living in the ME:

Pat Dollard, Iraq The Model, and Bill Roggio's Fourth Rail.

Where do you get your news from in the Middle East?  I have a good idea but I would hate to be accused of speculation......yet again.

"Do you really think y

"Do you really think your average Dem or Lib would like Turkey to go Islamic?"

I would like to be able to think and hope not. But at the present time, the Democrats have done nothing that allows me to be able to think or even hope not. There is very little that can be named that the Democrat party would not want to happen, if it happening meant a strong, or perceieved strong, arguement against President Bush and his policies. And I absolutely believe it. The Democrat leadership has shown themselves to be only about themselves, and about anti-Bush everything. One grave example, they care nothing about boosting enemy morale at the expense of our troop morale, and they care nothing that it gets our soldiers killed. They like to have that "see how bad Bush is" arguement to always be available. They care nothing about the future, only about today, when it pertains to something anti-Bush. So, my answer to your question (though you weren't asking me) is an resounding and unfortunate YES, by ALL MEANS YES.

Adding to the msm's ambivalen

Adding to the msm's ambivalence will be that the Turkish military openly opposes an Islamic government.  "Military or religion?  Sometimes there are no good choices."

For the record, two members of that party reject the Islamic label; however:

The ruling party has supported religious schools and tried to lift the ban on Islamic head scarves in public offices. Secularists are also uncomfortable with the idea of Gul’s wife, Hayrunisa, being in the presidential palace because she wears the traditional Muslim head scarf.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18366188/

Is this multiple choice?

Is this is a multiple choice question? If so:

A. Not at all
B. Not at all
C. All of the above

Seriously, Turkey is the key to a secular and/or peaceful Muslim World. As would be Iraq if it wasn't a battle ground with Iran on one side and Prime Minister Harry Reid and General Pelosi on other. There are many millions of peaceful Muslims who wish to live just like you and me except their religion is Islam while ours is (fill in the blank). BUT there are 1.3 to 1.5 billion Muslims so even 1% being violent radical terrorists (or willing to be if given the chance) and 10% actively supporting them (many say these percentages are low). That is over 100 million people actively seeking your death and my death.

The secular and peaceful "live and let live" Muslims must soon reign in those who seek worldwide Caliphate by any means necessary or the Final War will be upon us. As in all wars, many innocent people are already dying and (hundreds of?) millions would die in such an all-out war. But that's what coming unless protests such as this one don't become the norm across the Muslim World rather than the exception and we support, rather than ignore, their pleas for real peace by cutting out the cancer that is in their religion. These brave people recognize that cancer all the while holding true to their religion. But our cowards turn a blind eye to them and label terrorism as having nothing to do with Islam. At least Al Jazeera is giving major coverage to this massive protest. Spun into total fiction to suit radical Islam but they didn't ignore it!

Coup d'etat ahead for Turkey

Islamic religious fundamentalists hold the majority in the Turkish parliament. Almost 2/3rd's in fact. This rally was to protest the probable election of Abdullah Gul as president. Gul's election would begin a quick hard turn toward strict Islamic Fundamentalism in Turkey.

Unlike countries such as Pakistan where the military hides their true allegiances but actually side with the Taliban and violent Islamic terrorists everywhere, the Turkish military is staunchly secular and has vowed to not allow government by religion. Actually, they are not willing to cede their ultimate power to any group. Turkish governments have survived for four decades only with the approval of the military. Four times the military has overthrown a government. This will be the fifth time. The U.S. supports the Turkish military. Watch for a military takeover if Gul is elected. Whether this would be violent depends on whether Iran is ready to start a real war outside its borders. Barring Iran's entry, the Turkish military will win control in minutes.

The seeds of many major wars have begun in the most unexpected places and ways. This may be one of those times. Iran has been winning in Turkey and is very close to bringing Turkey into its camp. The U.S. losing Turkey to the north of Iran would do far more damage to our chances of victory in Iraq than Pelosi and all of her crew could ever hope to do.

Watch the Turkish military and watch what Iran does. Iran is emboldened beyond belief today thanks to Harry Reid so their "intervening" is not beyond the realm of possibility. Iran's leader is just crazy enough to believe Reid and Pelosi have Bush neutered politically. That will be a fatal mistake. We will have no choice but to "intervene" ourselves then our war with Iran will begin. Begun in Turkey but begun nonetheless.

That Gul will soon be elected is a foregone conclusion. Then, as the old saying goes, "all Hell will break lose".

By the way, it amazing (not really) how A.P. spun this story not reporting what the protest is really all about. To them, it's "a million people yearning to be free". Human interest story. Photos of children holding kittens in the protest to follow. Note to UPI: you'll have to do your own Photoshopping to cut this crowd photo down to three tourists riding a burro.

This is such a no-brainer to

This is such a no-brainer to anyone who's spent time in the Middle East, NOT in a U.S. miltary uniform, (or maybe in uniform, I was not). I can tell you Muslim or not, educated and semi-educated "Muslims" do NOT want to go back to the dark ages. They crave western technology and thirst for western comforts and freedoms, and dare I say 21st century "intelligence". They know going "backward" only means going back to no plumbing, no electricity,  and NO BRITTNEY SPEARS! Trust me, I've heard and seen it on an up front, in your face, over tea conversations basis. They know backwards means some fat-cat cleric is already getting his "virgins", and not before he's "martyred." Their not stupid, but they don't want to wake up dead either. It's a fine line they have to walk. Embrace freedom and America and risk watching your family get murdered, wife raped, or get enough people, like the Turks, and say enough is enough. The lib MSM will never report this. It goes way against the templet of Bush's concept of freedom in the Middle East.           

Regarding the lib media, wi

Regarding the lib media, with your last sentence you nailed why they will not pay much attention to this.

Amazing. Anti-Bush is tops on the lib agenda, regardless of the good it would do for America if this anti-darkages mentality was squashed in the Middle East.

Having seen little news tod

Having seen little news today, this is news to me. Aside from the topic of how will the media report it, this is awesome stuff. HUGE!

Now as for the media reporting it, I have had the news on a little today, not much though so I'll have to see how the next few days play out. Though I know it won't be, this is a story that SHOULD be a great topic for all the media's "new opinion and analysis" shows too. Notice I say "should." I'm not naive enough to actually expect it to take place.

I wonder how the Iranian government is liking it. Or better yet, how the Iranian PEOPLE are liking it.

The Iranian people, who are t

The Iranian people, who are thoroughly sick of the "Islamic revolution" in their own country, are cheering this.  The Iranian gov't, not so much.

The geopolitical implications

The geopolitical implications are large.  To recap:  Turkey denied us basing rights just prior to the beginning of the current war in Iraq.  This is after 50 years of US aid and protection as a NATO ally. Some ally

Denying us basing rights was in part due to the very nature of the government of Turkey that calls for hundreds of thousands of Turkish citizens to take to the streets.   The other piece of the puzzle is the fact that Kurds make up a significant percentage of the Turkish state.  And, this would had have them distracted from keeping that population in check.

The basing plan that had been in place since shortly after the first war in Iraq had to be rewritten on the fly at the start of this war in Iraq.  This has never been given the emphasis that it needs.  For example, one could laud the resourcefullness and igenuity of our theater commander to change the entire war plan and at least up until the capture of Baghdad, forge a complete success, but lauding our military is not what our media is about.  Or, one could conjure up visions of what could have been if "Insanes" henchmen could have been rolled up with a pincher like attack coming out of Turkey and Kuwait.  And, that would have cut the time to Baghdad by at least half.  Thereby, striking deep into "Insanes" ability to react to our assault.  But, again, that would have given the Bush administration cover for the trouble that ensued - with BDS a major tenet of the drive by media that was surely never going to happen.

Meanwhile, neither the Bush administration nor our military is likely to bring this up anytime soon as they walks on tender hooks with the present Turkish administration for the reasons already brought up earlier.  Additionally, we have done our best to keep the Turks and the Kurds from going at it on the Iraqi side of the border.  The reason - the Turks are the last ones on the planet that want a strong Kurdish state.  Since, this has implications for an uprising within their own borders.  In fact, ditto for Russia on that score.   

One can only hope that it turns out well for the Turkish people.  An unfavorable outcome for them will only exacerbate the current situation in Iraq.

jd,All salient points.I'm hop

jd,

All salient points.

I'm hoping Turkey can work it out without going over to the darkside of the jihadis like many countries in the middle east.

I can't really fault the Turks overly much for not allowing us to base out of their country....the balance of their civilization was at stake.  On the whole, they've been good allies, but after all, each nation's self-interest is exactly that.

It will be interesting to see what happens in Turkey.  This is the second demonstration (and unlike our own peacenicks, apparently has some real numbers), but this is the first I've heard of it.  I saw it in my local paper, but have yet to see it on the MsM (well, haven't watched today, I must admit).

Sadly, that could be a pictur

Sadly, that could be a picture of 'somewhere' USA in a few years. Americans need to wake up.

Debra...

I have recently come to the

I have recently come to the conclusion that the Democrat Party has ceased to exist in any real sense. The party has become little more than a sock puppet for the Marxist/socialist/humanist old media executives and their backers. The Democrats don't write their own policies anymore, the Networks do, and the Dems just follow their lead. That means that now is the time to pull the plug on the MSM and watch their lap dog Party collapse in on itself.

Two Big Protestings in Turkey

As a Turkish person I should say; These two protestings are the biggest public actions against our own government in 84 years old Turkish democracy history. Most of the trusted international media did not even make any news about these protestings. I wonder why? Some european politicians said "it's a secularist paranoia" I am a little shocked and also I laughed as well. I saw again clearly, how important for Europeans to make Turkey completely down on any ground? Instead showing some support, isn't it miserable to cover it up by western media? Looks like we have a long way to go on the ground of convincing westerns that we want to be a western country. Infact, we are the most modern muslim country on earth. It's 84 years old democracy. Other muslim countries are not even close to us on any ground. Since westerns don't want to recognize the fact but " TURKEY IS A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC" just like other european countries. "NOT AN ISLAMIC DEMOCRACY" This is a tragedy we are watching I guess. Because on one side U.S. government says; "We're trying to bring democracy to Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan...etc.." On the other side there is fully democratic muslim country is struggling and standing against extremist muslim government. And its people say "we want no damage on our secular system, we believe in democracy, we want you out of government etc....." But this time democracy bringers are disapearing and trying to hide what's going on in Turkey. It is funny as hell.... What can I say.......

Who is Turkey?

Unfortunately, Turkey's history, and even it's very existence is not widely known in the US. Our schools don't teach world history, or even European History. I am the exception. I have the greatest respect for Turkey and I have met several Turks and found them friendly, and sane people. I have even shared a glass of Raki with them. Turks are not Arabs and this says a lot. Turkey is a member of NATO and has bent over backward to help its NATO allies. Turkey is a modern nation with an educated people. Turkey has a treaty with Israel and maintains good ties with them. Turkey does have some disputes with its neighbors, but it is a tough region and that is to be expected. Every effort should be made to help Turkey on the path it has been on, it is the same path that we want other nations in the region to follow.

Why does Turkey not get good PR here in the US. For all the same reasons I stated above. The MSM are in denial and want to ignore Turkey because she likes the west and wants to be part of the west. If Turkey were to be a "bad" nation, and hate the west, the MSM would be in love with her, just like they are currently in love with Iran and Syria. Yes, this makes no sense, but this is only a temporary problem. The MSM are Communist/Marxist/Socialist /Liberal/Old-Europhiles, they think it is their job to promote communism, and distort Westernism. But, the good news is the Old media (MSM) are dying on the vine. Give it a few more years and they will all be gone.

Well spoken and thank you!

Well spoken and thank you! Please post here more. We need this perspective in the west.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

I agree, emboy. Thank you

I agree, emboy.  Thank you for adding your inside perspective.   Also, please accept a suggestion:  do not be disappointed if the international press does not aid you in your struggle, and do not even expect them to be honest in their reporting.  They will report only as their agenda dictates....but remember that you can succeed without them.  

Thanx

Thank you, Mighty Mouth and RJ. for your supportive thoughts. I apologize for my little anry article. Just because of the picture of today's Turkey makes me crazy.As a modern people of Turkey, we've got to do something. So I'm giving here actual numbers of past protestings. Because even newsbusters doesn't have the right numbers as I see. First, Ankara Protesting : Around 700.000 to 800.000 people walked. Second, Istanbul Protesting : Around 1.500.000 to 1.700.000 people walked. Now 3'rd protesting meeting is coming up. It's going to happen on mother's day (May 13th) in Izmir.(Izmir is the 3'rd largest city of Turkey on the western coast) So let's see how many million people will say no to this rotten government. And I can't wait to see how international media is going to twist it.