UPDATE I and II AT BOTTOM OF POST:
Two figures, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Al Sharpton, were recently targeted with a death threat, but the media treated them very differently. An article by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that when the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown booked Hirsi Ali to speak, along with other Islamic leaders, a Johnstown Imam “tried to block" her from speaking and thinks she should be put to death. Other than the Pittsburgh article, the only news coverage of this was local. Here's a group of men who tried to prevent a woman from speaking and advocated her death, and even in a world hyper-aware of violence against women, the rest of the media ignored the situation and statements like this (emphasis mine throughout):
Imam Fouad ElBayly, president of the Johnstown Islamic Center, was among those who objected to Hirsi Ali's appearance.
"She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death," said ElBayly, who came to the U.S. from Egypt in 1976.
The media didn’t ignore Sharpton’s death threats after he denounced radio shock jock Don Imus’ recent remarks, even though, so far, there are no roaming gangs of talk radio fans beheading people who “defame” Imus. Except for the ones held by tourists, there wasn’t a camera in the country that hadn’t recorded Sharpton ranting about Imus and discussing death threats, at least until the Virginia Tech shootings took the media's attention.
As a minority who endured female genital mutilation, beatings and an arranged marriage and who has a solid stance on human rights, Hirsi Ali should be a darling of feminists and of the media and cultural elite of America, especially when she speaks out against religious bigotry, the subjugation of women and violence against women and homosexuals. However, because she dares to criticize Islam, she gets the cold shoulder.
Aside from the call for Hirsi Ali’s death; the Islamic leaders in Johnstown did not even want her to say anything negative about Islam, and the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review minimized that. The smaller Johnstown Tribune-Democrat did not and zeroed right in on this attempt to quiet Hirsi Ali:
[Founder and past president of the Islamic Center of Johnstown Mahmood A.] Qazi , who has resided in the region for approximately 13 years, said the Muslim community here gets along well with others.
“I don’t want this woman (Hirsi Ali) to create dissension among us,” he said. “I don’t want her to poison anyone’s mind.”
Maybe it's that "Iron City" moxie, but, in a rare move, the Pittsburgh paper did address in more detail the prevalence of extremism than the Johnstown paper, and showed the difference in how dissent is handled in modern Islam and in modern Christianity and Judiasm. Charles C. Haynes from the First Amendment Center was "stunned" by ElBayly's comments:
"There are more radical, extreme views of Islam in European counties than in the U.S. It's rare to hear it and even more rare to learn that American Muslims believe it," he said.
This kind of reporting is a rarity. The fact that the media refuse to embrace someone with the characteristics they usually lionize, much less publicize death threats, indicates there is an unofficial policy of not criticizing Islam, even when it is in the wrong.
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UPDATE: a Jihad Watch reader transcribed a conversation with Imam ElBayly (emphasis mine and JW):
Me: I understand that you called for the murder of Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
ElBayly: Oh no no, that was not correct.
Me: I have the quote right here. You said, "She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death."
ElBayly: Yes, but that is not my word. That is the call of God.
Me: So you said that.
ElBayly: Before anybody gets into the relations with Islam [I couldn't type fast enough to type everything he said] ... you don't get into the relationship with Islam [...] what Ali did is called corruption on earth. It is worse than murder. She was disturbing the peace. That is not a peaceful life.
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UPDATE II: Hot Air has Hirsi Ali's response to John Gibson on his radio show when he asked her what she thinks of ElBayly's statement that she deserves to die for defaming Islam(emphasis mine):
Exactly right, retorts AHA; that’s what the Koran says. The man’s just following his religion. The takeaway: “This imam has been strikingly honest.”


















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Theo Van Gogh is dead, she co
April 23, 2007 - 20:40 ET by bigtimerTheo Van Gogh is dead, she could be next, of course the leftist loving defeatists are not going to mention this one bit..it involves the words, Muslim/religion.
"She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death," said ElBayly, who came to the U.S. from Egypt in 1976.
By the way, she is not the only one, and they aren't atheists.
Hypocrisy in the media and leftist womens groups...surely you jest...
Keep on lying
April 23, 2007 - 21:41 ET by Cool ArrowEven the President pretends to believe in this "Religion of Peace"
Funny how we just can't believe we'll be forced to take the mark or face beheading.
The financial hold of the Middle East and their method of dealing with infidels is no coincidence.
What is it going to take for
April 23, 2007 - 21:45 ET byWhat is it going to take for our government to do something about the Islamic in our country? I would say perhaps the ceiling needs to cave in, but we had two buildings come totally down, and that did not do the trick. ....Debra
Funny how this country is obs
April 23, 2007 - 21:51 ET by bigtimerFunny how this country is obsessed with the Baldwin garbage ad nauseum, but give absolutely no air time to the story of what these kids are getting taught by wonderful parents...http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267654,00.html
Talk about religion of Peace.....
There ought to be a law!
Religion of peace
April 23, 2007 - 22:07 ET by Cool ArrowWe've invited a religion into our country that hates women and even women's groups are afraid to speak up.
Islam promotes the murder of women and Islam won't speak up
If Islam is so deafeningly quiet now, who really believes they will speak up when Sharia law penetrates their American neighborhoods.
Islam is a religion of HATE.
Islam hates the real God because Ishmael wasn't blessed with the Promise.
Forget about 9/11? Arabs can't forget the contention between Isaac and Ishmael.
exactly!
April 23, 2007 - 22:12 ET byexactly!
Islam itself is not a religio
April 24, 2007 - 16:50 ET by Lynn DavidsonIslam itself is not a religion of hate; it is how it is how people decide to interpret it and how it is applied. Christianity and Judaism have passages that can, and have, been used as a basis for horrible behavior. That does not equivocate the three religions or say that one is better than another. I am saying that Christianity and Judiaism have both gone through Reformations and have put in the past cutting the hands off thieves, violent conversions, killing people who don't believe, etc. That is the difference.
There are many Muslims that don't have these beliefs, and we don't want to alienate them by lumping them all together. We recognize the differences between most Christians and the ones that shoot doctors that perform abortions; we should give Muslims the same courtesy.
Mohammeddans
April 24, 2007 - 17:07 ET by Cool ArrowWhere are these moderate Islam people. It is their duty to stand up to the "hijackers" of their peaceful Religion.
I'm not so sure there has been any hijacking at all.
No, they'll keep quiet until that day when one side or the other wins and crawl out of their holes just to say. "Oh yeah, we were with you all the time.
Islam Hates America. Let's hear openly from those who don't.
I think fear keeps them silent.
April 24, 2007 - 17:13 ET by RJI think fear keeps them silent. For example, there's an outspoken Muslim woman who wrote a book (I can't remember her name) and is making a speaking tour who has been the subject of constant death threats.
I saw her too RJ, on Beck and
April 24, 2007 - 17:20 ET by bigtimerI saw her too RJ, on Beck and the Washington Journal I think one morning.
She is not the only one either.
They are in constant fear.
Brigitte Gabriel's
April 24, 2007 - 17:20 ET by Cool ArrowBecause They Hate. I think Gabriel was raised Lebanese Christian. But her knowledge of the subject was lived, not perceived.
Heh. She's the subject of this thread.
April 24, 2007 - 17:22 ET by RJHeh. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is the subject of this thread. Anyway, here's another review.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/blogs/and-rightly-so.asp?month=1&year=2007
RO--IMO -there are many--
April 24, 2007 - 17:36 ET by misterbillRO--IMO -there are many--but as others have cited heer, they live in fear. We sit here and we post what we believe. The only thing we have to worry about is a bruised ego. What if you felt that your kids would be ostracized at school or even worse, killed? I will make a wild guess and say, about 1% of the Iraqi population are terrorists. Perhaps another 4 or 5 % agree but are not terrorists in practice. I usually agree with you, but on this one I think a lot of people are scared witless. (Amazing when you consider they will go to paradise, eh???) 1.2 billion x 5%=60 million. Scarrrry!
" At a level of 1.2 billion, they represent about 22% of the world's population. They are the second largest religion in the world. Only Christianity is larger, with 33% of the world's inhabitants.
Islam is growing about 2.9% per year. This is faster than the total world population which increases about 2.3% annually. It is thus attracting a progressively larger percentage of the world's population."
And when the smoke clears.
April 24, 2007 - 17:41 ET by Cool ArrowWe'll have a bunch of Germans (I mean Muslims) saying 'I didn't know'.
exactly---!!!
April 24, 2007 - 18:04 ET by misterbillexactly---!!! It's easy to sit back and watch--it may cost to try to amke things better!! Ah, life ain't easy sometimes!
Many are afraid. I don't thin
April 26, 2007 - 04:38 ET by Lynn DavidsonMany are afraid. I don't think it is a sign of cowardice to not stand up and confront these radicals and terrorists when they will torture and kill your family. Some people who helped or even just worked for Americans are targeted by extremists. I know that there are extremely brave individuals who do condemn radicals, which is difficult to do in IIslamic countries. It isn't like it is in America where if you speak "truth to power" against Bu$hitler, you are praised on national TV or a magazine cover. You stand up to radical Islam, and you die, your daughters are raped, your grandmother's beheaded on YouTube or you get extra holes put in your body with a power drill.
Now, the Muslims living in America are a little different. I was going to say "Western countries," but in France’s suburban slums, there is often little French law. Little 13-year-old girls are raped and when they report it, they have to move because of the death threats. But even though they are living in Western countries, they still often have family back in Islamic countries who are at risk, and they still risk being targeted, even in America. To find Muslims who stand up against radical Islam and their violence, all you have to do is use a search engine and look for keywords such as ”Muslim condemns violence” or “Muslims condemn terrorism.” There are also individual people and groups in visible positions who take the risk.
This man condemned terrorism and was kicked out of his mosque for his statement. Maybe it will give you a different perspective. Also, read what kind of environment many Muslims are enduring in Western countries:
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/16/jamal-miftah-a-moderate-muslims-plight/
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Printable.asp?ID=6976
Women who turn in rapists are tormented:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/13/60minutes/main617270.shtml
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.retirement/browse_thread/thread/b6ca9f9bd031e28/1b338d9bfa4accf%231b338d9bfa4accf
Yes, many Muslims have condem
April 26, 2007 - 06:54 ET by dahliatraversYes, many Muslims have condemned 911 and any violence in the name of Islam.
"Hijacking Planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood constitute a form of injustice that can not be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts." Shaykh Abdul Aziz al-Ashaikh (Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and Chairman of the Senior Ulama, on September 15th, 2001)
And this is a link to an aggregate of similar statements:
http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm#Statements%20from%20Leading%20American%20Muslim%20Organizations
This is yet another weakness of the msm - failure to give such statements broader play. The words or image of a rabid, foaming Muslim makes for a much "better" (read: sensationalistic, ratings grabbing) headline or video clip.
This Imam is a poor excuse to
April 23, 2007 - 21:53 ET by danboThis Imam is a poor excuse to lecture on the goodness of god and religion. Yet I doubt if many libs will call him for the medieval hatred he showed Ms Ali. It's not politically correct. You can urinate on catholics but can't point to this muslims lack of humanity.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
Not Correct
April 24, 2007 - 06:45 ET by allanfYes the Imam's words are not politcally correct. However, he is a member of a Liberal protected group. So his words are excused.
I thought threatening someo
April 23, 2007 - 21:59 ET by liberal_bug_zapperI thought threatening someone with death was against the law. Why isn't this man behind bars?
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"Democracy is the most vile form of government ... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention, have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property, and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."~ James Madison
Maybe the local prosecutor
April 23, 2007 - 22:04 ET by Free StinkerMaybe the local prosecutor is afraid of Islam as well?
Seems the democratic party is
April 23, 2007 - 22:37 ET by danboSeems the democratic party is also. The republicans are not great with it. But have a few more balls than the dems.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
That was somewhat my point. H
April 24, 2007 - 17:17 ET by Lynn DavidsonThat was somewhat my point. Hirsi Ali has the "resume," for the lack of a better word, to be considered the victim of hate crimes, and yet none of the usual people or the media say a word. There are no candlelight vigils or marches with serious-faced young women in "smart-girl glasses" and organic T shirts banging pots and bongos. She doesn't even warrent a celebrity championing her as a "hero" or "brave."
She is a minority, female, an immigrant, persecuted because of her sex and a violent crime victim, and the same type of people who persecute her can publically intimidate her without any comments from the groups and people who are always on the lookout for hate crimes and those who usually attack the kind of intimidation that Hirsi Ali endures.
The difference is she is criticizing Islam, so all of the self-appointed advocates are silent. Why is she not a poster-child for violence against women or women's rights? It is the focus of her criticism.
The Imam responds.
April 23, 2007 - 23:21 ET by mastersofdeceitWow. FWIW just up over at jihadwatch, supposedly a reader called the place and the imam answered the phone! Check his response.
Perfect example of how the MS
April 23, 2007 - 23:49 ET by mattmPerfect example of how the MSM's bias is revealed in what they emphasize and what they downplay. Way to go NB!
Lynn, FYI, it's not moxie, th
April 24, 2007 - 01:56 ET by old croLynn, FYI, it's not moxie, the Tribune-Review is Pittsburgh's conservative paper. It's that other liberal rag, the Post-Gazette, that hasn't to my knowledge, endorsed a republican in it's existance and regularly spews the democrat party line.
(Calvin): People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. (Hobbes): Isn't your pants' zipper supposed to be in the front?
I know it is the right-leanin
April 24, 2007 - 17:44 ET by Lynn DavidsonI know it is the right-leaning paper in Pittsburgh, but it is still an exploration into extremism that deserves praise, which was my intent.
Good post, Lynn D. It is in
April 24, 2007 - 06:16 ET by dahliatraversGood post, Lynn D. It is inexplicable that the press does not hold this spokespeople for Islam to the same standard as everyone else. It is a safe guess that the vast majority of the billion Muslims on the planet do not agree with the brutish statements of Mahmood Qazi. Is this subtle racism on the part of the msm, who mistakenly believe that Muslims are "born" more violent and Qazi cannot help making such statements?
By the way, Holland was home to this remarkable woman for a period. The Dutch government lacked the courage to do the right thing by her, though to a much greater degree than our press.
http://www.slate.com/id/2141276/
http://www.slate.com/id/2142147/
Compare that to the media por
April 24, 2007 - 17:58 ET by Lynn DavidsonCompare that to the media portrayal of radical Islam to what they see as "radical Christianity" (to borrow Rosie's term). How many times have the media shown a positive view of evangelicals or even portrayed evangelicals' critics as bigots and hatemongers--minus the occasions where the "radical Christians" portrayed agree with sterotypical left-leaning views like environmentalism and that the war in Iraq is illegal and against God?
BTW, excellent point about the suble racism of believing that Muslims can't control themselves, but that is exactly what many Muslim leaders say about men being unable to control themselves around women. Does "women are raw meat" ringi a bell? Men are so unable to control themselves that women must cover themselves head to toe in loose garments to prevent men from going nuts and raping them. That kind of thinking infantalizes and insults men.