After a demoralized Rosie O’Donnell stated the previous day that she gave up on gun control, Barbara Walters, on the April 18 edition of "The View," expressed disappointment in Rosie’s surrender. Rosie, again expressed her frustration with not accomplishing anything in the eight years since the Columbine massacre. Perhaps disarming her bodyguards would be a start.
BARBARA WALTERS: When I'm not on, I watch the program. And, I mean this tragedy that has happened is so terrible, but you Rosie are always so passionate. Right or wrong, you're passionate. You care. And you're one of the people who talked about gun control. And for me to hear you yesterday, because we haven't talked too much about it, numb, saying we're never going to get a gun control law, kind of giving up made me sad. I don't want to see you do that.
ROSIE O’DONNELL: I know. It made me sad, too, but it was really hard, you know, the "Million Mom March" after the 1999 Columbine, I mean, everyone thought that would work. What else would it take besides pulling high school kids bloody out of a second floor window. What else would it take to get sensible gun legislation? No one want to take away hunter's rights to hunt. We just want to sort of have sensible gun laws. You know, a teddy bear, has more regulations on it than a gun in terms of safety. Right, but I do feel defeated. I have to tell you. When that happened yesterday, it felt like, well here we go again. You know, it’s like "The Truman Show" or "Groundhog Day." We just wake up, and it just continues, and continues.
Token non-liberal Elisabeth Hasselbeck was off for the day. Instead of a right-of-center substitute, guest co-host Aisha Tyler, clearly in the liberal camp, started swinging strong for gun control.
"What's amazing to me is that the gun lobby is talking about, well, it's not legal guns that kill people, it's when people get guns illegally. But this is someone who bought a gun legally. It took them five minutes to run a background check. He had been committed to a mental hospital for two days for observation and that didn’t pop up on his record. He was clearly to everyone around him mentally disturbed. And, it's not about, like you said, it’s not about keeping guns out of the hands of hunters. But when a kid this upset, this out of it, can walk into and buy two guns and 50 rounds of bullets and nobody asks a question."
Barbara Walters briefly mentioned the argument that if other students had guns, perhaps they could have defended themselves from harm. That argument was snidely dismissed by the panel.
WALTERS: And now some of them are saying, if the students only had guns they could have defended–
TYLER: Oh yes. That’s absolutely--
BEHAR: That's crazy.
TYLER: You know, like the shoot up scene in "Heat." That’s a great idea.
Barbara Walters expressed hope that 2008 presidential candidates would fight for stronger gun control measures.
"But maybe, maybe this will make a difference in, in, with the candidates. Maybe it will be part of what is their, their program along with healthcare, that platform.
After Barbara Walters displayed the front page of the "New York Post" with a photo of Larry Birkhead and his son, Rosie ranted about how Fox News and the "New York Post," both owned by Rupert Murdoch, are part of an agenda to distract the American people from what is really happening. Walters defended Fox News noting they have done "around the clock" coverage of the Virginia Tech massacre. Having no sense of irony that all four co-hosts were liberal Rosie interrupted screaming that FNC is "slanted and right biased" and "right wing propaganda." She even claimed Fox is "lying" when they say they’re fair and balanced.
In a very noteworthy moment, Walters acknowledged that "The View" is "slanted in another way."
O’DONNELL:Right, but let's just say this: The "New York Post" is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns the Fox News channel. So, if you want to be distracted by what's really happening in Washington, pick up the "Post" or watch Fox News because they have an agenda to make you not really interested in the real things in this country, but rather Dannielynn.
WALTERS: But Fox News, but Fox News has done all around the clock -- I have listened to that too and they have done stories all around the clock on this --
O’DONNELL: They are slanted and right biased in my opinion
WALTERS: Well other programs are slanted too, in their own way. We are slanted in another way. But I just think for this I mean ---
O’DONNELL: We’re not, we’re not a news show though, Barbara. This is a news network. You turn on Fox News and you hear right wing propaganda. That is not news. There's no way that, that's news.
BEHAR: They say they're fair and balanced.
O’DONNELL: Well they're lying, if you ask me.
[applause]
For the record, even liberal television critic Tom Shales, a frequent Fox critic, praised FNC for its coverage.
"For Fox, it was a day of proving that the network is more than just a staging ground for shouting matches by firebrands and zealots. Throughout the day, its reporting was solid and enterprising and, gruesome as it sounds, Fox stayed ahead of CNN most of the time on the number of people killed or injured by the gunman, who still hadn't been identified by the time the evening network newscasts went on the air."
—Justin McCarthy is a news analyst at Media Research Center.
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Remember Utah
April 18, 2007 - 15:35 ET by Cool ArrowCan we start the litany of disasters minimized by a lawful gun carrier thwarting a mass murder in the making?
Thanks to the off duty officer in Utah
It makes Walter's "sad&q
April 18, 2007 - 14:14 ET by Chris NormanIt makes Walter's "sad"? I think I'm gonna be sick...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
I have a hard time picturing
April 18, 2007 - 14:18 ET by Roger the ShrubberI have a hard time picturing Rosie as a submissive...
Ugh.
I'd rather not even go ther
April 18, 2007 - 17:56 ET by Tom1969caI'd rather not even go there...
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If Hillary is the answer, it must've been a stupid question...
And there it is...
April 18, 2007 - 14:23 ET by NetizenCain"you know, the "Million Mom March" after the 1999 Columbine, I mean, everyone thought that would work."
There it is folks... the eptimone of left-thinking. They actually think that a rousing Kumbaya sing-a-long is all that is required to correct society's faults.
Not to mention being 900,000
April 18, 2007 - 15:35 ET by BeowulfNot to mention being 900,000 moms short of a million...
Walters and Rosie
April 18, 2007 - 14:28 ET by CellaBarbara Walters has sold her soul for thirty pieces of silver.
Do not count me as part of their moonbat audience.
But it would be interesting, I admit, to see all their heads explode over the latest Supreme Court ruling on partial birth abortions!!
"Barbara Walters has s
April 18, 2007 - 16:02 ET by ckc1227"Barbara Walters has sold her soul for thirty pieces of silver."
More like 300 pounds of stupid.
Barbara Walters career has no
April 18, 2007 - 14:29 ET by Gat New YorkBarbara Walters career has now sunk to its lowest point when she feels she needs to emplore Rosie to be a leader of anything. I saw this show one time and was shocked how Walters could sit there with a straight face and carry on an inane conversation with obvious uneducated uninformed morons.
No Intellectual honesty
April 18, 2007 - 14:44 ET by c5thenI could respect a person that said we need to amend the Constitution to better control the guns. I'd disagree with them, but I'd respect that attitude.
These twits want Congress to pass an unconstitutional law and then rely on stacking the Supreme Court with other twits who could wordsmith the law into being OK.
I just saw on FOX an interview with someone from TX who wants all "gun free zones" abolished so people have the right to protect themselves again no matter where they are. It was a breath of freash air after listening to all the gun control radicals the last few days. She brought up an interesting statistic that I haven't had time to check. Namely that all the mass shootings in the last 15-20 years have ALL been in "gun free zones". It was a good point. When was the last time you heard about a crazy person shooting up an NRA convention or a gun show or a target shooting competition?
Good points c5. I also thin
April 18, 2007 - 14:55 ET by radiofitz34Good points c5. I also think that stricter gun laws = more guns for bad guys and no guns for law abiding citizens. Just look at DC's gun laws. There's your proof right there.
I forget which comedian it
April 18, 2007 - 17:59 ET by Tom1969caI forget which comedian it was, but a stand-up comic once said:
"You know what the #1 cause of death in New York City is? Guns. You know what the #2 cause of death is? Not having a gun."
Many a true word is spoken in jest...
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If Hillary is the answer, it must've been a stupid question...
Priceless Tom.True too.
April 18, 2007 - 18:02 ET by bigtimerPriceless Tom.
True too.
That reminds me of the call f
April 18, 2007 - 15:02 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarThat reminds me of the call for arming the pilots after 9/11.
How about teachers and profs, too. Make it an option for them and give the proper rigerous training to those that want to participate.
I know, I know. Guns so close to our children!!! There could be safe-guards; lockboxes, etc. Would make some rethink storming the schools, though. (I say some because there are those nutcases out there that wouldn't give a crap and be suicidal anyway)
Makes me shutter a bit thinking if that old bag Mrs. Haberlin (my 6th grade teacher) had a gun stashed. Hell, she would have probably used it on us. Well, we weren't the best behaved 6th grade boys ...
"I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened." Mark Twain
You can see more from this
April 18, 2007 - 15:06 ET by NetizenCainYou can see more from this Rep. from Texas on this video clip from Penn&Teller's Showtime series in which the topic of gun controlled was discussed:
http://www.pistolwim...
Ther goes that Fox right wing
April 18, 2007 - 15:38 ET by BeowulfTher goes that Fox right wing propaganda machine again. People really need to stop muddying up the issues with facts...
O'Donnell is approaching the
April 18, 2007 - 15:07 ET by GalvanicO'Donnell is approaching the age where bladder control is of more critical concern than gun control.
Her bladder control issue is
April 18, 2007 - 15:40 ET by BeowulfHer bladder control issue is more mental than age related. Look at how she's totally lost control of her mouth...
My question is, is when are w
April 18, 2007 - 15:09 ET by I am conservativeMy question is, is when are we going to control Rosie and how much food she is eating?? I would believe that Babwa would be more considered about the explosion on her show of Rosie bubbling blab....
Iac...Well you know how it's
April 18, 2007 - 15:36 ET by bigtimerIac...
Well you know how it's the guns fault all by itself for killing people?
In Rosie's case it is the spoons fault that she shoves in her mouth that makes her so fat.
Personally, I think Rosie sho
April 18, 2007 - 15:40 ET by Clear thinkerPersonally, I think Rosie should eat more, and eat more often. The best time for her to stuff her face would coincidentally be the same time the View is on. It would limit how much she could talk!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
They dont get it
April 18, 2007 - 15:15 ET by rotylrIf I am not mistaking at one time in this country alcohol was illegal....how did that turn out.
Plus I believe that drugs are also illegal, and we have spent billions of dollars fighting that...but yet we have all these companies that require a drug test, why is that needed dont they know that those drugs are illegal?
So to make strict gun laws or make them illegal will work based on what....rosie saying so....
I saw Mark Furman last night make a great point about how this guy should have been under a doctors care or at least institutionalized but in society today we have to love these people and allow them to mingle with the others so they can see what it is to part of loving society.....how that liberal slant working...
Well maybe the libs should offer to cut off police funding because you know the bottom line here is it just did not work, this thing happens over and over.
Not to make light of a terrible situation but you see how easy it is to have a mass killing in this country think of how hard it is for our troops in Iraq to stop these killings when there are thousands of people trying to pull this off everyday. And for their efforts they get ridiculed by the left.
I agree with Furman that this
April 18, 2007 - 15:24 ET by Gat New YorkI agree with Furman that this guy should have been institutionalized and the so called healthcare professionals of this university should have taken much more vigorous steps with this guy.
Also there is always a trade-off when you control or ban something. We ban cocaine but anyone can score on the street using the black market. With guns we can control them because of laws, but the more we control them the more people who want them will get them through improper means. Another example is if we wanted to control Rosie's mouth we could ban her from national broadcast TV but she will resurface somewhere spewing her hatred and ignorance. It's the price we pay for a free and open society.
I must've missed it
April 18, 2007 - 15:29 ET by Cool ArrowI missed the part where Rosie said she would no longer allow her bodyguards to carry guns. Can somebody please post that part of the dialogue? I'm sure it's gotta be in there somewhere.
Never mind.
April 18, 2007 - 15:32 ET by Cool ArrowI see it's already been suggested to her in the leadin. I know she'll lead the way.
looking for sean penn
April 18, 2007 - 15:47 ET by tumbler_2007I want my pal Sean Penn to get on The View or maybe Letterman, so he can denounce Bush again and then tout gun control by giving up his .45 caliber atomatic. He can drop it in a barrel of cement in the middle of their set. He's a riveting good spokesman, Waw wa. Call Sean Penn to the forefront of the gun control movement -- for the good of Hollywood.
How's about screeching for so
April 18, 2007 - 15:32 ET by BeowulfHow's about screeching for some new laws banning murder? They'd have the same effect as more gun laws. I think murder should be illegal. There are already well over 20,000 federal, state, and local gun laws. We need more anti-murder laws!
But this is something you'll never hear from the likes of Rosie The Mouth or Joy Clueless...
not murder
April 18, 2007 - 15:54 ET by LionKingThose were not murders, those were really , really, really late term abortions performed an unlicensed non-resident.
Like I have always said from
April 18, 2007 - 15:33 ET by bigtimerLike I have always said from day one about Walters, she isn't about to fire Rosie, why would she, Rosie just espouses her views for her...while she can sit back and feign surprise at times, but never really be against one thing she has said, she is as phony as women come.
Walters has always been a leftist...always will be.
This show is past pathetic...it is just anther arm of the leftist party, they are the enemy within...they fool no one with a brain that works.
Taking a stand
April 18, 2007 - 15:43 ET by Cool ArrowWe will hear the carry - vs - no carry debate ad nauseum over the next few months, but I predict there will be those universities that will endorse the concept of limited carry laws. Those universities will enjoy considerable growth.
"They are slanted and
April 18, 2007 - 15:58 ET by ckc1227"They are slanted and right biased in my opinion"
Thankfully so. I'll take right biased over wrong biased every day of the week.
Babs is such an elitist scum.
April 18, 2007 - 16:00 ET by mostlymoderateBabs is such an elitist scum. She has more money than she knows what to do with, can afford to hire the best security money can buy, and probably lives in a gated community. So why does she insist upon taking my Constitutional right to protect myself and my family with a .45 ? It's bad enough they moaned about the automatics, now they want to take my semi-automatic away? Ya know, liberals just take take take take...nothing more. I spit on Babs!
She wants to take away your r
April 19, 2007 - 12:42 ET by BeowulfShe wants to take away your rights for the same reason most of her ilk do - In her world, there's "US" and there's "THEM". You're "THEM", therefore, you don't need protection. The "US" crowd needs protection from "THEM". After all, "THEM" are nothing but beer-drinking, wife-beating, dog-kicking, NASCAR-watching, illiterate, uncouth, slobbering, barbaric morons. "US" knows what best for everyone, so if you're not "US", go sit in your corner and color quietly.
The Closed Mind Builds Strong Barriers
Well, when it comes to "
April 18, 2007 - 16:11 ET by Michael ChapmanWell, when it comes to "bloody" tragedy and doing something to protect America's children, I think there should be stricter laws on abortion---more "abortion control" legislation. If there were more restrictions on abortion, its availability, its cost, etc.,---maybe a "cooling off" period?---then more children would be saved and not slaughtered because they are "inconvenient." An estiamted 28,000 Americans will be slaughtered by abortion this week--4,000 every day--but that won't be discussed on "The View" or get round-the-clock media coverage on cable TV, etc.
It's amazing to me that people are wondering why these crazy massacres (mass shootings, etc.) occur in our culture. Well, we live in a culture that says it's okay for a mother to murder her own child. If it is okay, and fully supported by local, state, and federal government for a mother to kill her child, then anything is permissible, is it not? If the culture says it's okay to kill children, then why is the culture shocked when kids kill other kids? Or when 23-year-old college students kill their classmates? ... You cannot, on one hand, say it's okay to kill babies (with full legal protection) and then turn around and be shocked! shocked! when kids kill other kids.
No Kidding! Just sit back an
April 18, 2007 - 16:21 ET by mostlymoderateNo Kidding! Just sit back and think about how illogical it seems for someone to "be FOR" abortion but want to "ban guns". People freak out about about the massacre in V.A. Tech that killed 32 people; however, there have probably been 32 abortions since I started writing this post. Liberals are so damn hypocritical it really boggles my mind. They are the only group of people that want to take away everyones rights, except the "rights" that really should be taken away (like abortion, gay marriage, etc.).
I was concerned about a lot o
April 18, 2007 - 16:15 ET by BruzillaI was concerned about a lot of new gun control arguments coming out of this incident, but there have been so many "what the heck were they thinking?" issues coming out about the college and how they handled this nutjob that I think the issue of how he got his guns is going to quickly diminish. This guy did everything but wear a t-shirt saying "Your kid went to VT and all he got was killed" and nobody did a thing to interfere with him because everyone wanted to be nice. I think it's that mentality, and not guns, that'll be the main issue coming out of this.
Rosie, again expressed her
April 18, 2007 - 16:27 ET by motherbeltRosie, again expressed her frustration with not accomplishing anything
in the eight years since the Columbine massacre. Perhaps disarming her
bodyguards would be a start.- Justin McCarthy
Justin, you missed the point. Rosie, as you know, is an "important person" with an "important partner" and "important children." They need protection. The rest of us, including those poor souls at Virginia Tech, should just call 911 and wait, crouching under and behind things, for two hours until the police arrive.
Rosie's depressed again. I fe
April 18, 2007 - 16:35 ET by Jack BauerRosie's depressed again.
I feel a...
...coming on.
This offends clowns.
April 18, 2007 - 17:22 ET by Cool ArrowThis offends clowns.
lolCompassion, Jack. We'll
April 19, 2007 - 07:52 ET by dahliatraverslol
Compassion, Jack. We'll Fedex you some.
Cho Seung-Hui might have been
April 18, 2007 - 16:39 ET by AntiMediaCho Seung-Hui might have been a big Rosie fan, and a registered demoncrat.
O’DONNELL: They are slanted right biased in my opinion
April 18, 2007 - 16:40 ET by misterbill"O’DONNELL: They are slanted and right biased in my opinion"
How many times ahve we heard this statement? How many times has it been refuted? I admit Hannity leans right. I find O'Reilly (as obnoxious as he can be sometimes) to be exactly where he claims to be Independent and mostly balanced. I f the fat one would analyze what she "deems" is right, she would find that the hard charging by BOR is for those who cannot protect themselves. Where any leaning comes from is the fact that liberals leap in and do not want the wrongdoers punished. I guess she is talking about Gerald or Shepard or Greta or----------------------.
Enough, this argument is worn down.
Could it be?
April 18, 2007 - 16:46 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe Cho Seung-Hui was enraged by Ching-Chong Rosie's hate-filled diatribes.
Probably a little off topic,
April 18, 2007 - 17:18 ET by ferrarimanf355Probably a little off topic, but this rushing to judgement kinda ticks me off.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=62513554-85CA-4E40-A436-5F8DF6D5FA64&f=00&fg=copy
And while I'm at it, this may be the only time I agree with Rush Limbaugh:
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/18/rush-limbaugh-pooh-poohs-video-games-involvement-in-va-tech-rampage/
Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...
Speaking of being ticked off, ferretman....p*ss off
April 18, 2007 - 17:38 ET by RJSpeaking of being ticked off, ferretman, it ticks me off when a Drive-by Troll like you, who never sticks around to discuss his posts, drops off admittedly off-topic links without even a description.
P*ss off, ferretman, and take your mystery links with you.
I'm not a drive-by troll, dud
April 18, 2007 - 23:01 ET by ferrarimanf355I'm not a drive-by troll, dude. I have a life, too, you know. I don't hang around my computer all day.
Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...
Sure you are....dude
April 18, 2007 - 23:08 ET by RJSure you are....dude.
You habitually drop off contentous posts, often with a snarky remark, and then disappear. You rarely, if ever, debate your posts. I call that drive-by trolling.
Hit and Run
April 18, 2007 - 23:16 ET by Free StinkerRJ - I prefer the term "Hit-and-Run" Troll for those Dudes.
Tomatoh . . . Tomahto . . . ;-)
FSI like dump & run troll
April 19, 2007 - 11:13 ET by Dave RFS
I like dump & run troll, given the content of their, ah, droppings.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.
in ferrari's case it may be
April 19, 2007 - 11:18 ET by MightyMouthin ferrari's case it may be "compensating for something troll". You know, the middle aged guy, buys a ferrari and $300 sunglasses.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Ahem. I'm not compensating fo
April 19, 2007 - 18:08 ET by ferrarimanf355Ahem. I'm not compensating for anything.
Anyways, when I do come back to this site to comment on stuff, there's always at least 5-10 more discussions going on. I just go on to the other discussions, that's all. I don't cut and run when you guys are moving on to another discussion.
Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...
That doesn't pass the smell test, ferretman
April 19, 2007 - 19:22 ET by RJThat doesn't pass the smell test, ferretman.
You often drop off posts with taunting statements and a mystery link. Typical might be "check this out, NewsBusters.....so whaddaya gonna do NOW?" Then you disappear and seldom respond to anyone who might reply. Since it's common practice for people to check back to see if their posts have a response, your excuse of "moving on" is even more foolish.
As for "just going on to other discussions", I can't recall a single discussion I've ever seen you in.
Advice for ferrariman
April 19, 2007 - 11:09 ET by UnsaneSure, dude. Do what I do. Make comments in the morning, respond to comments in the evening.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Rosie O'Dingbat thought her &
April 18, 2007 - 23:33 ET by SnowWhiteRosie O'Dingbat thought her "million Mom march" would make everyone see 'her' light about gun control? That's funny. She can't control her own appetite, or her big loud mouth, but she wants to control everybody else. Typical of control freaks. Don't Baba & Big Head know that this guy would've bombed the College if he couldn't have gotten guns? He was going to kill people any way he could. And, I really believe prayer should be allowed in schools. When God is kicked out the front door, the devil sneaks in the back way.