I'll happily admit to not-watching "The View," but can I safely assume 0 discussion of antidepressants whatsoever here, too?
JMR

You see, Noel, when you're a wealthy liberal celeb, you're an important person.  You're much more important than the millions of idiots who watch your show and make you rich, so you deserve to have an armed bodyguard...

But the average Joe must rely on the cops to show up an hour after you've been shot by the criminal - who was out on furlough - and was on (or off) ritalin for some made-up disorder, and has a history of "inappropriate" behavior and whose gun was smuggled across the Mexican border and sold on the black market - or stolen...

"Lock up the guns, free the criminals!" - Liberal Mantra

I watched the exchange, not all of it, these women are annoying. I think Rosie took some extra medication before she went on air, she was out of it. Typical liberal, do as I say, not as I do. as for little Lizzy, she's never prepared to go up against Rosie. I tried to send her an email of how disappointed I was with her and typical, the email wouln't go through. The show is awful, I don't know why anyone watches it. ??????

Noel, I know you can't read all threads, but I "reported" this yesterday morning...but not as well as you, of course...   ;^>

"Speaking of Rosie, I knew the anti-gun sh*t would be flying today, so I tuned in "The View."  

Sure enough, Rosie the tent model was in full hypocrital form, claiming that she's been fighting for more gun control for years, but she's "given up."   She says "we can't win against the NRA because they're organized, they have weapons and they're scary."

True to form, Hasselbeck didn't question Rosie about her own armed bodyguards..."

It so troubles me to see how far we have fallen from the freedom loving, independence minded founders of this country.  It has almost become a given (maybe because it is reinforced at every level of our lives by schools, government, and the MSM) that people expect the government to solve our problems and that people are willing to give up any previously hard won freedom to allow the government to keep them "safe."  The debate about guns (IMO) is not about violence or legally purchasing or illegally purchasing guns.  It is, and always will be about - FREEDOM.  My owning a gun does not infringe upon anyone else's right to life, liberty, or property.  Period.  The counter to that is always - But if a nut has a gun and shoots me, then isn't that violating my right to life.  That is a complete non sequitur.  Hell, if anyone took a Swiss Army knife and killed me it would, based on the typical anti-freedom nut's argument, be grounds for having the government outlaw Swiss Army Knives. 

I also support the argument that it is because the people can keep and bare arms that our government is kept in check.  If for no other reason, I will never surrender my firearms because of that.  There are too many instances in history where people were first disarmed and then slaughtered or subjugated to simply give up my ability to defend myself.  Many may say that this is an extremist's view.  So be it. 

Rather a dangerous liberty than a peaceful servitude.

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!´´
--Patrick Henry

Is there anyone in the history of mankind that would take a bullet for Rosie?  A whole lotta Rosie

O'Donnell's hypocrisy on gun control reminds me celebrity defense counsel Jerry Spence (old guy always wearing a buckskin jacket) and the death penalty.

Like most trial lawyers, he's against the death penalty.  But many years ago, when he was hired to prosecute a mob case for the city of Los Angeles, he asked for the death penalty for the guilty mobster.

Years later on the CNN show CROSSFIRE, when confronted with the duplicity, Spence explained that it was important to do away with the guilty felon because if he were given a life sentence, he could always direct his organization by phone to endanger Spence's family.

So, when Spence felt HIS family was at risk, the death penalty is on.  When other families believe they are at risk, no death penalty. 

O'Donnell rightly feels her community would be a safer place for her family if only her bodyguard had a weapon.

The issue at VT should be focused on security, not gun control. Focusing on the latter is going to be fruitless and does absolutely nothing to make our students any safer at school.

Pay attention to how the gunman was able to walk freely into the halls and open fire, and that there was nothing there to stop him. How difficult is it to get into one of the halls? How close by are armed guards?

Colleges in the most dangerous neighborhoods are also probably the safest. They are prepared for the worst case scenario, which most likely discourages or prevents such tragedies from occurring there. Meanwhile, the schools that look the safest end up being the most vulnerable to an attack. Perhaps Big City University security methods should be used across the board, right down the board to Noodledoosie Community College. 

*****

"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

Don't forget that at the time she was criticizing Tom Selleck, she was doing tv commercials for KMart, which sold guns.  When she was confronted with the double standard, I think she tried to pretend she didn't know they sold guns and then she said she would run out the contract but not do any more commercials.  When she figured out KMart sold guns, I think she accepted the KMart salary without batting an eye.

Isn't it odd that liberals want to get rid of the second admt. which is written in the constitution, but see a right to abortion, gay rights, ect which are not in there at all?

When Bill O'Rielly was on the View, he asked rosie if she wanted America to win the war in Iraq. Her reply was something  about she wanted America to be what the Founding Fathers invisioned. Now she wants to change the Constitution? I'm no History major, but didn't they write it?

That"s because Rosie actually looks like a Founding Father DRM.

I'm starting the think Rosie meets with Tim Robbins and Sean Penn twice a week for lessons on how to be even more liberal.

I wonder how much she's charging them...

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If Hillary is the answer, it must've been a stupid question...

Sometimes it takes a harsh personal experience to trigger empathy of opposing viewpoints and prompt compromises.

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