It didn’t take the BBC World, airing on PBS, long to find a way to criticize America and our constitution it the midst of our national tragedy. After an initial segment on the events at Virginia Tech, the BBC felt another story on Second Amendment rights were appropriate for a broadcast. The story by Gavin Hewitt led with the following, "Today’s images from Blacksburg are at once horrific but shockingly familiar. Shootings on campuses, in high schools, in shopping malls, have become part of the American landscape."
After continuing with a re-cap of past school shootings, his analysis of the ‘American landscape’ concluded with the following:
In the United states there are 200 million guns in private hands. Many Americans believe it is their right to keep and bear arms, as is their right by the constitution. Attempts to bring in tougher gun laws are often weakened by the powerful National Rifle Association. Even after today's horrific shootings, laws are unlikely to change.
However terrible the incidents, many Americans fear that restricting weapons will only lead guns in the hands of criminals, and many are passionate about that right. This was Charlton Heston, president of the National Rifle Association. This was his invitation to those wanting gun control, ‘You can take my gun from my cold dead hands’.
In the hours after today's shooting, a White House spokeswoman reminded Americans that the president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms. There is likely to be a new debate about guns, but the gun lobby remains one of the most power full in America.
The followup by anchor Katty Kay with Daniel Vice of the "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence" was "The question all around the world, when an incident, a terrible incident like this happens is how many shootings does it take before America has a serious discussion about gun control?"




However terrible the incidents, many Americans fear that restricting weapons will only lead guns in the hands of criminals, and many are passionate about that right. This was Charlton Heston, president of the National Rifle Association. This was his invitation to those wanting gun control, ‘You can take my gun from my cold dead hands’. 















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I don't see the bias. This
April 17, 2007 - 15:32 ET by blogonatorI don't see the bias. This story seems to sum up things accurately. We have a constitutional right to bear arms, we are passionate about that right, the NRA lobby is strong and helps protect that right, and laws regarding that right are unlikely to change. Seems like sound reporting. Don't be so sensitive.
The bias is where the BBC d
April 17, 2007 - 15:39 ET by sarcasmoThe bias is where the BBC does not report the fact that concealed weapons permit holders warned of this exact thing long-ago, were prevented from exercising their rights despite that warning and despite jumping thru many additional control-freak hoops beyond those required for simple gun ownership, and the violence happened as predicted. The BBC isn't likely to put forth that viewpoint because it makes victim disarmament look as stupid as it is. That's the bias. And when bias is this-blatant, it doesn't take much sensitivity to detect.
JMR
First, it's disgusting that
April 17, 2007 - 15:58 ET by blogonatorFirst, it's disgusting that anyone would turn this into a political issue the before the day of the tragedy was even over. Second, no one forced those kids to go to school at a "gun free zone". Those passionate about self defense could have gone to schools that don't have the ban.
You don't see the bias, and
April 17, 2007 - 16:08 ET by rx4musicYou don't see the bias, and it's disgusting that someone would make this into a political thing and THEN you say it's the kid's own fault for going there in the first place???!!! Good God man, get your head out of your ass!
I was responding to sarcasm
April 17, 2007 - 16:14 ET by blogonatorI was responding to sarcasmo's article, which blamed the tragedy on the fact that this happened because of the "gun free zone". Obviously, as prepared as this kid was, he'd have come armored if there was a possibility of someone else carrying a gun in those classrooms.
That was his only option? To
April 17, 2007 - 16:20 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveThat was his only option? To wear armor or be better armed? How about the possibility that if he knew there may possibly be armed students, he would decide going on a murderous rampage in school would not be such a great idea?
Look, the gunman was obviously in an irrational state of mind...who knows what his decisions might have been given certain variables. The fact remains that if...if even one student in one of those buildings was able to legally carry a weapon with a permit on campus, this tragedy could have been mitigated or eliminated in some way.
"I'd rather be bald than to pretend that I'm not!" --Mean Gene Dr. Love on comb-overs.
He knew he didn't have to c
April 17, 2007 - 17:40 ET by sarcasmoHe knew he didn't have to come armored because of victim disarmament policies in place at the school, which hurt students and faculty members, but not policy makers.
JMR
Which schools are those? To m
April 17, 2007 - 16:13 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveWhich schools are those? To my knowledge the only state in the union that allows students with a CCW permit to schools is Utah...not everyone that is "passionate about self-defense" can attend school in Utah.
Furthermore, the British Media has been silent on how well their gun laws are working for the criminals in their country. Guns are outlawed there and now only criminals have guns...even the police don't regularly carry guns. It is a sad state of affairs when your criminals are better armed than the police. Gun crime in the U.K. is still occuring. Criminals with guns in the U.K. have a free pass because no law-abiding citizen has the right to protect life, limb and property with a firearm...they have been force to rely on a reactionary police force that is always too late.
"I'd rather be bald than to pretend that I'm not!" --Mean Gene Dr. Love on comb-overs.
The shooter at VT got his g
April 17, 2007 - 16:18 ET by blogonatorThe shooter at VT got his guns legally. It is possible he wouldn't have had a blackmarket connection to a gun if he'd have been in europe.
And if my uncle had boobs h
April 17, 2007 - 16:24 ET by rx4musicAnd if my uncle had boobs he'd be my aunt... Honestly, it seems you are going way out of your way to make excuses for everybody else but the victims...
You're grasping at straws. Of
April 17, 2007 - 16:26 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveYou're grasping at straws. Of course anything is possible. It is also possible that if the "gun-free zone" was never established, he would have been stopped before bodies began stacking up.
"I'd rather be bald than to pretend that I'm not!" --Mean Gene Dr. Love on comb-overs.
The truth is, one never kno
April 17, 2007 - 16:55 ET by blogonatorThe truth is, one never knows, therefore there's really no point of debating it either way. Would the world be safer or more dangerous with more guns on campus? We'll never know. Would this tragedy have been avoided with tougher gun laws or more lax? We can never know.
A regular comedian you are bl
April 17, 2007 - 16:59 ET by bigtimerA regular comedian you are blog, you do this all the time, start out trying to be oh so tricky, like you are a so-called moderate, which you have never been since you have been here...you are very easy to see through. Really.
You need more practice.
Carry on with your schtick....
Dr. Love,Missoula Mt. does, t
April 17, 2007 - 16:27 ET by bigtimerDr. Love,
Missoula Mt. does, they have to check them in though...how about Utah, do they have to check them in with someone once they check in for classes?
I'm not sure...I just read ye
April 17, 2007 - 16:32 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveI'm not sure...I just read yesterday about Utah allowing it...the article didn't expound on it. I'll try to find out though.
"I'd rather be bald than to pretend that I'm not!" --Mean Gene Dr. Love on comb-overs.
I'm graduating from a Utah
April 17, 2007 - 16:38 ET by DyneI'm graduating from a Utah school next week, and the only gun policy I know of is the one for those living on-campus. They have to register their firearms with the housing office and keep them in a safe there when they're not taking them anywhere.
Thanks Dr. Love,Yeah, I just
April 17, 2007 - 16:38 ET by bigtimerThanks Dr. Love,
Yeah, I just heard about Missoula on the local news this morning too, I haven't looked for a link either, juat curious if you knew off hand.
Later...got to run for a bit.
The bias is dripping in this
April 17, 2007 - 16:51 ET by SmartypantsThe bias is dripping in this story. "Many Americans believe" it is our right to have guns? Can't you see the presumption included in this statement? What "many Americans believe" or don't believe has nothing to do with the issue. The statement implies that those Americans who favor gun rights are somehow misguided or incorrect. Our constitution assures us the right to bear arms. A more objective media story would present it in this fashion: "The American Constitution assures that country's citizens that their right to bear arms will not be curtailed by the government." Of course, we seldom see wording like this in any popular media outlet. This is a strong example of how media is tilted leftward; most stories of this nature are written from the liberal perspective--in this case the idea tha gun ownership rights should be limited. This is one example of why it is absurd that some people still deny the existence of a liberal media bias.
Gee, are they still sore ab
April 17, 2007 - 15:55 ET by dervishGee, are they still sore about that revolution thing?
...and bailing their asses ou
April 17, 2007 - 15:59 ET by TruthMonger...and bailing their asses out of WW2 (WITH OUR SUBSTANTIAL COLLECTION OF GUNS) didn't help much either...
Gotta love the Eurabian's f
April 17, 2007 - 16:00 ET by Dave RGotta love the Eurabian's favorite America-hating news organization.
Only problem is, if it weren't for this country, most of the countries served by the BBC would not even exist today.
Ingrates.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
"The question all arou
April 17, 2007 - 16:02 ET by rx4music"The question all around the world, when an incident, a terrible
incident like this happens is how many shootings does it take before
America has a serious discussion about gun control?"
Fat load of good bobbies with night sticks do when it all hits the fan. Maybe the Brits (and others around the world) should ask "How many BOMBINGS does it take before the world has a serious discussion about bomb control?" Get over yourselves...
"Mr. Heston, here's my check for $50. Keep up the good work..."
Hope you haven't been sendi
April 17, 2007 - 16:10 ET by blogonatorHope you haven't been sending too many of those checks to Charleton Heston - he hasn't headed the NRA since 2002 or 2003!
blogg,Are you really really s
April 17, 2007 - 16:11 ET by bigtimerblogg,
Are you really really sure...who knew?
Geesh...thanks for the heads up there fella.
Uh, rx4music apparently did
April 17, 2007 - 16:20 ET by blogonatorUh, rx4music apparently didn't.
blog,Went (the money) to the
April 17, 2007 - 16:24 ET by bigtimerblog,
Went (the money) to the NRA to defend our rights against the leftists/communists in this country.
Quite sure that is exactly what rx meant.
How do you feel about the 2nd Amendment?
I do, which is why my NRA d
April 17, 2007 - 16:46 ET by blogonatorI do, which is why my NRA dues go to the NRA and not some guy who will spend it on alzheimers drugs. Also, I'm more concerned about drug dealers and theives than I am of leftists/communists giving me cause to arm myself - not sure where you guys live (I live in Chicago).
I do, which is why my NRA due
April 17, 2007 - 16:54 ET by bigtimerI do, which is why my NRA dues go to the NRA and not some guy who will spend it on alzheimers drugs.
...who and what are you talking about exactly in the above sentence blog?
man, you really need to rea
April 17, 2007 - 16:59 ET by blogonatorman, you really need to read the proceding threads before you post. You're like a goldfish... or that guy from Memento (unable to remember what came 5 seconds earlier)! I was refering to Heston... he has alzheimers...
Twilight Zone blog, read your
April 17, 2007 - 17:08 ET by bigtimerTwilight Zone blog, read your own posts, Heston is dead as the head of the NRA.
Blogonator (is that someone
April 17, 2007 - 19:32 ET by rx4musicBlogonator (is that someone who terminates blogs?),
For the record, Charlton Heston retired as president of the NRA in 2003 and Wayne LaPierre is the CEO, acting V.P. and main man in charge and yes I knew that. I have been a card carrying member since 1975 (and I still haven't shot anybody yet). The point is the BBC were trotting out an old photo of Mr. Heston as the symbol of what's wrong with America (gee, maybe THEY don't know he's not the pres anymore, huh??) and I stand behind his sentiment 100%. How many times do people have to say it, "Guns don't kill people, people do..."? As corny as it sounds, it still rings true... Stop making the bad guys out to be the victims. Your lunacy is showing.
"I used to be disgusted, but now, I try to be amused..."- E. Costello
You know, Elvis? Somedays that is just so hard to do, but, I'm tryin'......
Keep in mind that "a ser
April 17, 2007 - 16:18 ET by Carbon SasquatchKeep in mind that "a serious discussion" is defined as the one they win. Many pro-gunners think we have been having a 'serious discussion' about unreasonable infringement of civilian gun rights since 1934.
And of course this criticism
April 17, 2007 - 16:03 ET by GothampcAnd of course this criticism comes from the non-profit organization PBS, which is partially funded by American taxpayers through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
pro-guns?
April 17, 2007 - 16:12 ET by mtm105The Dems don't know how to put a political spin on the tragedy. Except that rich people (not Dems, of course.......like the Kennedys and Ivy Leaguers) need to feel guilty for being successful.
I am active duty Army. My feelings toward gun control is ambivalent. All I know is that historically Hitler removed guns from the populace (Brown Shirts with brooms) and set his political agenda in order. We will get run over by the likes of the Mexicans, like the French did. If a student in the classroom were carrying a gun, there wouldn't have been such a tragedy.
Which is my theory as to why
April 17, 2007 - 16:55 ET by dscottWhich is my theory as to why the liberals want to eliminate all guns, no opposition to their plans to take over through manipulation and triangulation. As long as the populace has guns, the liberals will not enjoy their power very long if they attempt a coup. If you think Iraq is messy with al Qaeda and their bombs, just imagine what would happen after a coup here with 200 million guns in the hands of the citizens - open season on liberals/leftists.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
I just heard that after Londo
April 17, 2007 - 16:11 ET by mattmI just heard that after London banned guns crime went up 35%. Blimey!
I also heard their Bobbies or
April 17, 2007 - 16:15 ET by bigtimerI also heard their Bobbies or cops or whatever the right term is, are or have considered using their...um...big, bad, firearms again...lol!
Jack Bauer would know....Jack we need ya here!
200 million guns! Good, onl
April 17, 2007 - 16:19 ET by MightyMouth200 million guns! Good, only about 100 million more to go and everyone will be armed and safer.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
The BBC would be better off j
April 17, 2007 - 16:22 ET by Airforce_5_OThe BBC would be better off just showing old Monty Python re-runs and shutting up. England has enough problems keeping soccer hooligans from killing each other.
Reduce the U.S. Carbon Footprint. Send Rosie to Iran. Airforce_5_O 04/04/2007
Yeah, sorry BBC, I having tr
April 17, 2007 - 16:44 ET by HypocriteHaterYeah, sorry BBC, I having trouble remembering the last time a riot broke out at an American football, baseball, basketball, or hockey game that resulted in the deaths of many spectators. But I guess they don't want to have THAT discussion now, do they?
that's spot on
April 17, 2007 - 16:52 ET by tumbler_2007We were in London a few years back on the night Manchester United played (and whipped) Munich's guys in some cup match. It was a riot everywhere. Literally.
bbc guns
April 17, 2007 - 16:52 ET by m1xramI liked the article. It shows just how important our rights are and we should never give them up. Now, that's probably not how they meant it to come across, but it's even more poignant because they're the ones we kicked out with guns. lol
Then you take a look at their policies, as the poster child for gun control they're an abysmal failure. It's like the Canadians telling us we need HMOs, oh wait, we fell for that one.
m1xram
Allowing concealed weapons on
April 17, 2007 - 16:59 ET by ferrarimanf355Allowing concealed weapons on campuses? Wow, that's a bright idea! [/sarcasm]
But seriously, that's not the right way to go about it. Putting guns in the hands of drunken frat boys and bullying jocks is really dumb. I honestly don't think too many college students have the maturity to own a gun, and I should know, as I'm a college student, and I think at least 90% of the people at my campus don't have the maturity to own one. As easy as it is to just think that would solve everything, there aren't any easy answers.
Oh, and speaking of attempting to find easy answers, well, this didn't take long...
http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28529
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weG7A4lTGtg
Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...
"Putting guns in the h
April 17, 2007 - 17:06 ET by MightyMouth"Putting guns in the hands of drunken frat boys..."
I think that's called "thinning the herd".
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I think it's called worst jok
April 17, 2007 - 17:08 ET byI think it's called worst joke ever.
The day after 32 students are gunned down on a college campus are you're going to make jokes about thinning the herd. That's classy
she's a piece of work, yeah
April 17, 2007 - 17:14 ET by tumbler_2007In fact, Syg. We were discussing efficiency in mass murder.
You could probably scare 17 to 20 victims to death with just one cold stare out of mighty mouth in the darkness.
Syg, you should listen to o
April 17, 2007 - 17:25 ET by MightyMouthSyg, you should listen to ole tumbler here, he knows whereof he speaks. I have had to stare him down a few times as well.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM...LMAO!Excellent!
April 17, 2007 - 17:26 ET by bigtimerMM...
LMAO!
Excellent!
she has the power
April 17, 2007 - 17:32 ET by tumbler_2007Just like that nor easter on the right coast. Freezes you solid. The Mighty Medusa stare ! Lol!
You're cute today tumbler,
April 17, 2007 - 17:37 ET by MightyMouthYou're cute today tumbler, keep it up, okay?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Here you go, it's not a jok
April 17, 2007 - 17:17 ET by MightyMouthHere you go, it's not a joke. College kids can be responsible once they make it to about the age of 25.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Oops! Victim's Ages
April 17, 2007 - 17:39 ET by CGattonUnless I totally misunderstood what you're trying to say, the link doesn't show any responsibility gained at 25, lol. The graph displays victim ages, not perpetrator's ages. Of course, I suppose you might be suggesting that victims are responsible for their own demise...
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
"I suppose you might b
April 17, 2007 - 17:42 ET by MightyMouth"I suppose you might be suggesting that victims are responsible for their own demise.."
Exactly!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I thought it was clever. The
April 17, 2007 - 17:22 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveI thought it was clever. The joke wasn't even aimed at the victims, so why is it offensive to you? BTW, what is the statute of limitations on cracking jokes after the type of tragedy that occurred yesterday? How would it be any different three weeks or even two years from now?
It is kind of like "natural selection" or survival of the fittest. If frat houses are known to be places where careless, wild, or otherwise immature people congregate, common sense tells me I would be wise to stay away. Frat houses are already very dangerous places, and yet, people still clamor to be accepted into one. Why is that?
Maybe I'm just insensitive...I can live with that...I don't know if I want to live in a world where frat jokes are off-limits.
"I'd rather be bald than to pretend that I'm not!" --Mean Gene Dr. Love on comb-overs.
Been reading the links you were whining about, hater?
April 17, 2007 - 17:22 ET by RJBeen reading the links you were whining about, hater? What's that? It was just your usual ploy? You never meant to read them? Ah. See, that's why I don't waste my time providing them for you.
I can't find any links.I sear
April 17, 2007 - 17:27 ET byI can't find any links.
I searched 'Shrub Report' for his posting today concerning Sweden but it didn't come up on the search.
Listen RJ, not sure what your deal is, but I have a job I'm sorry I can't spend all day working my way through the inefficient Newsbusters search engine.
I knew you would eat the link
April 17, 2007 - 17:29 ET by bigtimerI knew you would eat the links trollster.
All you are good for.
I've found stats for America
April 17, 2007 - 17:34 ET byI've found stats for America on here but nothing concerning Europe or Canada as promised. Most likely because they don't exist in the NB.
That's right, Europe and Ca
April 17, 2007 - 17:37 ET by lnthompThat's right, Europe and Canada are figments of Algore's fevered imagination.
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Hillsboro, Oregon
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain
"my deal", hater, is that you claimed
April 17, 2007 - 17:44 ET by RJ"my deal", hater, is that you claimed more than once that you had searched the site and that the information wasn't there. Now, you claim you "don't have the time."
It would take less effort to
April 17, 2007 - 17:35 ET by Roger the ShrubberIt would take less effort to find the link on today's open thread than it would for you to post your inability to search for it.
Please, stop channeling me,
April 17, 2007 - 17:37 ET by sarcasmoPlease, stop channeling me, Roger. :)
JMR
Damn. Busted again.
April 17, 2007 - 17:41 ET by Roger the ShrubberDamn. Busted again.
syg-- my error
April 17, 2007 - 17:49 ET by misterbillSyg -my error--the post today re:Sweden dealt with rising Muslim violence in Malmo, Sweden. I had already extracted the UK Telegraph article on the rise in the use of guns in England and Scotland.crime after the gun ban was passed. I am not much of a gun man. I do own a hand gun for my family's protection. It does make me feel safer. I have owned the gun for about a year. I am not a member of the NRA. Iwas a member for 20 years and never owned a gun. I strongly defend the right of Americans to own guns. I also rely on thos esame Americans to step forward and stop wrongdoers. I believe strongly in the right to live a peaceful life in America. I condone strict punishment to those who would rob peaceful Americans of that right. I even include shooting them dead on the spot. I do think it is an excellent deterrent.
Now you want to deprive responsible American citizens of a responsible American right, the right to bear arms.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016082.php#more
The Second Amendment does not
April 17, 2007 - 17:08 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveThe Second Amendment does not stipulate maturity or age in determining one's right to bear arms.
It is true we have laws that stipulate age. But, just because immature frat boys make poor decisions is not a justification to abridge someone else's right to bear arms. Most states CCW requirements call for a minimum 21 years of age and a clean record, so most of your "frat boys" would be ineligible in the first place.
"I'd rather be bald than to pretend that I'm not!" --Mean Gene Dr. Love on comb-overs.
ferrariboy
April 17, 2007 - 17:17 ET by Dave RAllowing concealed weapons on campuses? Wow, that's a bright idea!
Then I guess you are content with being a sitting duck, waiting for the government to come and save your inexperienced behind.
Had just one person been around with a gun and new how to employ it properly, there is a good chance that many of the people who died yesterday would still be with us. If you are afraid of guns, then don't buy one.
If you wish to put your llife in the hands of government employees, be my guest. Just don't ask the rest of us to do the same.
My life, and the lives of those I care about are far, far too important to be placed in the hands of government employees, who, with a few exceptions, are considered unemployable by those of us in the private sector.
That is something you will figure out when you are all grown up and out in the real world.
Damn, are you in for some surprises.
*Confucious say it is better to push a Porsche that to drive Ferrari.*
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
Umm, Dave, a judge ruled last
April 18, 2007 - 12:21 ET by dscottUmm, Dave, a judge ruled last year or the year before that it was not the responsibility of the police to be proactive and protect anyone against crime. So, I think someone's wait might be eternal. I believe in the Rule of Law not taking the Law into your own hands as we are forced to in this climate of PC thinking. I'm not going to advocate everyone carry guns (which is their right to do so) but I will advocate the reform of the legal system where incompetent judges are tossed from the bench for their "rulings" and not just because of skirt chasing, drunk driving or penis pumps under their robes. We need the 3 strikes you're out law on judges whose decisions get overturned, weed out the deadwood so justice can occur. Not that it would have made a big difference in this case because quite frankly anyone determined to engage in mayhem will do it with or without a gun. Vigilance and cooperation with the police is the best option.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
Hey, that is the story I talk
April 17, 2007 - 17:10 ET by msh1973Hey, that is the story I talked about last night on another thread. I saw that while I was changing channels. My response was...yes we have the right to bear arms because our Founding Fathers gave us that right, we call it the 2nd Admendment! Thank God we had a little Revolution and broke free from that crazy Country.
"Allowing concealed we
April 17, 2007 - 20:29 ET by ckc1227"Allowing concealed weapons on campuses? Wow, that's a bright idea! [/sarcasm] But seriously, that's not the right way to go about it. Putting guns in the hands of drunken frat boys and bullying jocks is really dumb. "
Assuming that a large number of frat boys, jocks, thugs, and gangsta wannabes on campus don't already have guns, legally or otherwise, is pretty dumb.
200 million guns in the U.S. And? How many of those guns are actually used in the committing of a crime? How many of those guns are actually used to illegally kill someone? Those are numbers that are conveniently left out of the discussion. I wonder why that is? Because perspective can be a bitch, that's why.
Gun Control
April 18, 2007 - 06:48 ET by jcalexAmerica has gun control,it`s called the 2nd Amendment.
Jerry Alexander
Wow, I opened up a can of wor
April 18, 2007 - 17:24 ET by ferrarimanf355Wow, I opened up a can of worms with this one. Personally, I don't think I could handle a gun- I tend to flinch whenever there's a sharp, loud noise- but still, I honestly think that allowing guns on campus is a dumb idea. Do I respect the Second Amendment? Yes, I do- if someone is mature enough to own a firearm for protection, or a rifle for hunting, I don't have a problem with it. I just think it all comes down to the level of maturity of people, and I'm not convinced that many college students have it. Maybe it's my inner nihlist, but that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.
Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...
"I just think it all c
April 18, 2007 - 17:36 ET by MightyMouth"I just think it all comes down to the level of maturity of people..."
But don't you think maturity levels would increase significantly if EVERYONE was packin a sidearm for the world to see? Just imagine the reduction in violent crime that would cause. Think about it, who's gonna pull some sh*t knowing that everyone in the room has got an itchy trigger finger and a trigger to..er.. finger?
Now admittedly, there would be a "break in period" where some really dumb people got hurt. But eventually we could be like the Swiss!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
"I'm not convinced tha
April 19, 2007 - 22:40 ET by Mean Gene Dr. Love"I'm not convinced that many college students have it."
So you would be against me carrying a weapon on campus? I am an active duty Air Force, father of two (#3 on the way), 35 year-old college student that has never had any trouble with the law.
There are plenty of college students of all ages--yes even some 18-21 year old students that are more than mature to safely and reliably carry a concealed weapon on campus.
BTW, it is a constitutional right...maturity has nothing to do with qualifying for a constitutional right. The only prior qualification for certain constitutional rights was to be a male land owner...these days the age of majority (18) pretty much does the job.
"When life gives you lemons, make lemonade, and then toss it in the face of the person who gave you the lemons until they give you the oranges you asked for in the first place!" --Bill McNeal, NewsRadio episode 3.17