Sarc, never could understand why some towns aren't spelled like they sound. Should have been "Beaut". And if you do say it likes it's spelled, it's like fightn' words to the locals.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it."MM says...
So, a whacked-out kid goes crazy and kills 32 people. What's the first thing we need to do? Establish blame, of course. Oh, and blame Taylor, er, Charlton Heston. When does Halliburton get brought up? At any rate, this was a very sad tragedy, and this Shrubber weeps for the victims. Why aren't we blaming the Korean peninsula for producing the killer?
Speaking of the second amendment, this legislation in Pennsylvania, if passed, will be the blueprint for every other state in the Union. Gun owners, beware!
Fast Ed's extra-warm-and-fuzzy Story Du Jour. Not warm and fuzzy enough for you? Here's another one.
With a headline like this, you just know they'll be at war within a month…
It was just another typical day in beautiful México. Also, here's a heartwarming story about the poor, downtrodden, innocent undocumented workers that are productive citizens of our great land.
(Reporting a Good media event, so tagging onto your thread Roger)
On PBS tonight: "The Case for War: Defense of Freedom" (check local listings)
It's probably pretty good, because our local uber liberal TV critic panned it as being "baldly propagandist" and that it creates "journalistic damage."
If he hates it, it sounds to me like a "MUST SEE" event!
... now, RJ, did that same critic call Michael Moore's 9/11 film "baldly propagandist" and assert that it creates "journalistic damage"? I'm sure he did. Why am I even asking?
Ha. Of course not Dahlia. I've been doing battle with this guy and his bosses for years, due to his blatant politicalization of the TV Review column. I've been fairly successful. Believe it or not, this is a BIG cutback from the kind of wild-eyed leftist political rantings he used to put out.
Oh, hell yes. I've been terrorizing (in a friendly way) virtually every columnist in our liberal state newspaper, the Hartford Courant, for years. Actually, except for a couple of them who I've really ticked off, like this TV guy, I have pretty good email relationships over there...more than a dozen of 'em. Even got invited to a letters banquet.
Cast blame and second guess. The media is so good at that. It's a wonder we don't put them in charge, but then again, they wouldn't have anyone but themselves to blame and second guess and we know they are incapable of doing that...
I found that item really heart-warming, Sphincter. Our country's more multicultural every day, as it shows us here: "The 61 illegal aliens are natives of Brazil, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Lebanon, Mexico, Slovakia and the United Kingdom, the newspaper reported."
Of course, this hit man er, reporter inflates the numbers; we haven't 14 million illegals in this country. We must give them more time. In fact, it becomes apparent that a lot of the Mexican intruders are being counted multiple times, since they keep re-entering.
If we subtracted all the 3- or 4-time recidivist entries, the total out of Mejico is likely just 5 million. (Nice round number.)
Well, Taco, I noticed, as usual, laughingly, you jumped to the conclusion that I was referring to Mexicans in the second piece. Read the line again, Frijoles.
Let me help you, since the internet is a tricky thing for you:
Also, here's a heartwarming story about the poor, downtrodden, innocent undocumented workers that are productive citizens of our great land.
Wow. The word Mexico does not appear. What a shock. My hook is still in your mouth, Taco, I have to throw you back into the water, you are too small. Thanks for being such an easy fish to catch, once again. Buenos Nachos, Taco!
I recall a big rooster we had; and the awful thing that happened to the big guy.
He found an old green frog-lure in the yard, and started pecking at it. Pretty soon his comb was snagged. He fussed trying to pull it off, his foot got stuck, then his wattles. He was a bleeding mess. My dear Mom had to get a pair of pliers and dig the barbs out. He was so exhausted he just laid there like dead while she "operated". I tell you, we were all crying for the bum.
Have you ever got your sphincter snagged that way, Rog ? When you were casting for old guys like Tumbler? I'll bet that hook was way down deep where the sun never shines, and you had to pay to get it extirpated. (extirpate, a fifty-cent word for "yanked out.")
I made a joke to that effect yesterday at lunch when I first saw Ho's obituary in the paper. "There's gotta be an Imus joke in there somewhere," is how I phrased it. Either they didn't get it, or didn't think it was funny, but it started a conversation about the whole Imus thing. Which, of course, was not my intention.
Rest in tiny bubbles, Don Ho.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Don Ho was a musical diety. I hadn't heard that he passed until I read this thread. He will be missed by many generations and will certainy be memorialized on the Big Island. I'm putting on his CD now...
I think Gaggle is just disgusting opportunism, the typical paranoid circle-the-wagons circle jerk you like to engage in. I live in Colorado near enough to Columbine and we didn't do the blame thing here. As an independent and gun owner, I can tell you that most of us up here in the hills have guns- and we come from all walks. My very left wing neighbor has a federal license and the most amazing arsenal you could imagine. There will naturally be a debate regarding a solution to crazies with guns. The dialogue is healthy and it should be welcomed. But no one is taking my gun away- and if things really went to shit, my canyon will be dug in like a deer tick and armed to the teeth. Liberals and Conservatives alike. Neighbors. Don't take the lazy way out and blame liberals. It's a cheap shot and has nothing to do with reality.
My point is that you can't stop mentally unstable people from doing this kind of thing. Period. But to blame Liberals for the problem is just stupid. A debate is fine, and should be welcomed. Nothing will change for me in any outcome. Just don't jump down the throats of liberals: we got an s-load of firearms in this country, but statistically not that many crazies willing to do this. Do you really think that liberals, by their very nature, are anti-gun? Not true. Do you think they have a concern about this kind of incident? Very true. I know this as a fact.
So it's not the liberals that are ramming gun control down our throats? What does "not stopping mentally unstable people" have to do with not allowing citizens to protect themselves?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it."MM says...
Mobi, if there's a "circle the wagons" mentality it's yours. (Notice I don't have to use the rest of your juvenile sentence to make my point.) The liberals, which means the Democrats and the media, have already begun doing exactly what Gaggle predicted. It didn't take clarivoyance to know it was coming, but it does take blind circle the wagons denial to refuse to admit it.
late reply here- I have work to do. If you listen to the left side of radio you will find that there are very few advocates of gun control, mostly a lot of people raising questions. Most thinking Americans understand that these isolated acts of crazy people have nothing to do with politics. When you feel compelled to equate this to a left vs. right issue, you miss the point and lose the focus. Granted that the left will bring up the issue of gun control, the issue is valid but doesn't go to the core of the situation. The man was sick. The left is discussing how we can keep these threats down by recognizing the symptoms and dealing with them. The right here, as far as I have read, is focused on blaming the left. This is the 'circle jerk' which I phrased before. How about a discussion of underlying cultural pathologies or lack of psychological asessment and response? You guys are smart enough to rise to that, instead of knee-jerk reactions.
I have not blamed "the left," because some of them are actually sensible about firearms. I've instead blamed the victim disarmament policies continually-suggested the left in place on that campus. The grab-lobby left is blaming hi-cap magazines & pro-gun people, just like I said they would this morning before sunrise. The concealed weapon permit people warned about this, and then it happened after they were ignored, and you expect us to say what??? JMR
"Do you think liberals by their very nature are anti-gun?" What the heck are you smoking, Mobi? Talk about "circle the wagons" denial! Of course the majority of gun control advocates are on the left.
Notice that, once again I did not have to resort to the juvenile descriptives...as you so often find it necessary to to....why is that, Mobi? Because you're not confident enough in your logical arguments?
In any event, your claim that there are "very few advocates of gun control on the left" is equally ludicrous. Just on today's NB threads alone, CNN, BBC, CBS, The Early Show, and MSNBC are showcased for their "gun control" questions. In addition, I've heard liberal control advocates calling in to conservative shows all day long.
I "misspoke" on that- blame Alberto. The people I know on the left are rural types and guns are a given. Coming from Chicago, the equation changes. Again, I own guns. I'm sometimes liberal. The two are not mutually exclusive. When you paint it so then there is no more discussion. Just mudslinging and lack of progress. And for me the right here is often happier with that than discourse. Floyd's Barbershop is a happy place. And a philosophical circle jerk. No new thoughts. Like the hard left as well. But what is the point in discussion if no one gives credence to opposing views?
You preach about "mudslinging?" That's your main stock in trade, Mobi.
I enjoy intelligent debate with opposing views, but you're an intellectual phony. I see no value in debating someone who cannot rely on his mental prowess or reason, and instead uses silly juvenile descriptors. That person is always, ultimately, a disappointing and dishonest fraud who either disappears or falls back on "mudslinging."
Memories - LD's were a "gateway" to other targets, started with the hoops, graduated to "soda" cans, then on to balsa airplanes, then to feet - which of course had to esculate to verbal abuse and then near physical. It was a good thing there weren't any stray cats or squirrls around, back then. Good clean fun in suburbia USA.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dadV
Let me make one more point. I'm all for concealed gun carry laws- provided a license is given to those who have passed a rigorous background test, including some form of psychological evaluation. I don't want crazies carrying guns around but I think gun ownership is an inherent right- unless you're crazy. Which still won't stop crimes of passion.
It's a debate regarding What to do? We have this problem, here, apparently more than anywhere else. It's tied to our "liberal" gun ownership laws. I have guns. I am not afraid of guns. I have been through a home invasion and have a family. I am not wimpy regarding guns, and have an attack dog and can defend my family. Doing the Liberals are the problem schtick is not helpful. I don't think we can change gun laws to much effect- but I don't live innercity and don't have to face gangbangers. This guy was just plain crazy- who, conservative or liberal- could predict his actions?
Hey; he's a big boy now. He needs no free pass. I never abuse him verbally; I simply give him a sample of reductio ad absurdum when he gets too feisty. He has been kind of pathetic, after all. I know he's likely losing sleep over Tumbler; but why do youz two have this ungodly chip on your shoulders ? Stop worrying.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I thought I was the son of Satan? I thought you were the third cousin (twice removed) of Satan? Or was I the "sphincter of Satan"? Damn, the not-so-eloquent Tumblerisms get blurred after a while, don't they?
Of course, you're being an amateur comedian; harmless this time.
But if Debra sees that, she'll say to herself: "I never said he was Satan. Why has he told them that?" You could yet learn something valuable from the mighty Rush Limbaugh, Dave.
Words mean things.
If one cannot say something good, why say anything? You haven't even the talent to dredge up a cheap laugh; but you never back off.
Come on, R J BS. Dave R is capable of defending himself. Like he did before with the obscenity-laced temper tantrum. I'll give you this much. You may tell the Big Lie like an expert, and use words like demented, etc., But you don't lower yourself to toilet bowl status bashing me with indecent language. I have to thank you for that. And the rest I can even forgive. (For that matter I forgive all of you spoiled brats.)
Mr. "Ambassador of goodwill from the hispanic community", you try to split hairs with your self-righteous attempt to portray yourself at a higher plane than your opponents. But, in light of the over-the-top rants you regularly produce, one could say you'd have to be demented to believe that.
Thanks for addressing me by the cool title, mon ami RoJay.
I am indeed on a higher plane than some others of us. Which means I ordinarily don't repay you in the currency you deserve. I give you equal status, offer you reasonable arguments, and keep my anger under control. When I'm angry, which is not often. Thanks again, Pal.
And I will.
Has our Pal taken back "dementia"--?
Skip it, I don't worry about things like that. Even if our planes are the same. I'm all for free speech.
The afternoon drive guys on KFI, John & Ken, refer to the houses many illegals reside in as clown houses. The cops will make an illegal alien raid and find dozens of people living in the same house.
Maybe that is why I heard two different names reported yesterday, I wished the news would just wait with their reports until they know just the facts....this race to out-do the others for ratings is beyond pathetic and non-responsible, but there is never any accountability held when the get it wrong, look at the Duke case for example.
I understand that there are liberals out their that want us to give out or sell nuclear material to nations around the world. First of all, I don’t think this is a good idea, it’s nuts with a capital N. There are too many nations that we can’t trust that they’d use it for peaceful means or that the nuclear material would not end up in the hands of terrorists. I am a little incredulous because it’s so out there stupid it could be just a rumor as far as I know. Second, liberals want gun control. Guns are NOT the problem, it’s the person with the gun that’s the problem! I don’t expect liberals to ever understand this. Third, handing out nuclear material is like handing out guns and expecting the person to use it for a hammer to build a home
Folks who were here about 8-9 hours ago might recall my prediction that this shooter was going to be either an adherent of "the religion of peace," again, or on legal "antidepressant" drugs, again. He was on the (legal) drugs, just like a LOT of school shooters have-been, despite scant-at-best media/political notice of this elephant in the living-room. If this kind of correlation with school shootings had happened with ANYillegal drug (pick your favorite!) we'd be seeing media-hysteria. Instead, due to the political & ad-buying clout of big pharma, we're likely to see little or nothing. Again. I know people hate when I say these 4 words, but "I told you so." JMR
Nope, or I'd win the FL Lotto, and that hasn't happened. This prediction was easy, because of the HUGE correlation of both radical Islam and legally-prescribed antidepressant drugs to school violence. The solution might be for doctors to quit overprescribing these dangerous drugs despite the fact that the drug companies own so-damn many politicians...And the solution for the news media might be honest reporting for a change, even if it loses them an advertiser. JMR
Just saw it on Fox News. But expect all media to blame it on hi-cap mags, the antidepressant drug angle might lose big pharma some money, and we can't have THAT!! This one will follow the media-blackout pattern of previous legal-drug-involved school shootings -- and that's another prediction (I'm doing ok today, not perfect though thanks to Bal!). JMR
They aren't going to lose money, if they do shouldn't be the matter here, drug Co.'s aren't what or who should be blamed anyway.... it is the parents and schools that recommend these drugs to students via the parents for their control of the kids, and it makes it easier on the parents too.
I know they tried to get me to okay that on my son 25 years ago or there abouts,they were going to hold him back if I didn't agree... that is how long this crap has been going on....I said no way, my ex and I got into a huge fight about it...NO WAY...he was six years old, he didn't pay attention all the time, he had ADD blah blah blah, his mind wandered, he drew to much, (he is a beautiful artist to this day) he was SIX, teachers are lazy, some of them, please do not jump on me here, my aunt was a teacher for 25 years and a great one...I blame the laziness and permissiveness of this society, the nanny state, parents not saying no, kids at six are active, as they should be...oh I could go on and on, now I am rambling, but the blame goes to the parents and teachers IMO.
Now it's OUR Fault....anyone but his, and the media is following all of this, first with Columbine it was bullies, now it is rich kids fault....http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108&page=1
Pathetic piece of shite this person who did this....watch the media go with it...Shep Smith is yammering about it now....on and on they go.
Who knew Ireland had a "language minister"? Does the US have something comparable?
"In 2003, Ireland's language minister ruled that Doon or Dun Bleisce, Gaelic for Fort of the Harlot, would have to change its name to An Dun or simply the Fort."
Since it is tax day, I'd like to pass along to my NB friends a little something my brother just sent.
Since it is tax season....
Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can
understand.
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the
bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we
pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men
(the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would
pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The
ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay
$59. So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in
the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day,
the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he
said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20."Drinks for the
ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way
we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still
drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How
could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair
share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man
would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner
suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same
amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And
so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100%
savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings). The seventh
now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12
(25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The
tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings). Each of the six was
better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But
once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their
savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man. He
pointed to the tenth man," but he got $10!" "Yeah, that's right,"
exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got
ten times more than I!" "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why
should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the
breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't
get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men
surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't
show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when
it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the
bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is
how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the
most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for
being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat
friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of
Economics University of Georgia
For those who understand, no
explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is
possible.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
The Newsbusters are furious that those on the left are going to try to use this tragedy as a reason to support stricter gun control?
Yet in the same breath they exploit this tragedy as reason that we should have less gun control.
So which side is worse? I'd say both are equally disgraceful for exploiting this national tragedy. You should refrain from attacking the behavior of others when yours is equally as offensive.
Hey, saying "we told you so" is NOT in any way "exploiting" this tragedy, it's stating the obvious. Concealed weapons permit holders WARNED ABOUT THIS VERY KIND OF EVENT. We told you so. JMR
furthermore, please explain to me how you can 'prove' that this could have been avoided had students been carrying their own guns. Speculation does not count. Stick to facts.
Strong "gun control" does not control the individual who may not be stable at any particular time. Strong gun control did not stop this death, nor did it keep the guns out of people who are know to break the law. NCPA stats, CATO stats, Open Carry laws article, Hoover Insitution , for a start.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dadV
Get this, we all know that according to the AGW believer crowd, GW causes an increase in hurricanes, although last year it was shown to be BS!!! Well now it can cause LESS hurricanes too..
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Best headline ever.JMR
April 17, 2007 - 09:38 ET by sarcasmoBest headline ever.
JMR
Sarc, never could understan
April 17, 2007 - 10:13 ET by MightyMouthSarc, never could understand why some towns aren't spelled like they sound. Should have been "Beaut". And if you do say it likes it's spelled, it's like fightn' words to the locals.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I figured this dude must be
April 17, 2007 - 10:18 ET by sarcasmoI figured this dude must be angling for Leno with one like that...But it's still funny.
JMR
Lighting up with the smell of
April 17, 2007 - 10:36 ET by bigtimerLighting up with the smell of gas, how much simpler are people going to get?
No pity from me.
bt,Sounds like natural sele
April 17, 2007 - 10:39 ET by Dave Rbt,
Sounds like natural selection to me. :-)
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
I shouldn't even ask
April 17, 2007 - 11:26 ET by tumbler_2007Go ahead, sarc. Tell us why that's the best ever headline. This oughta be good.
April 17, 2007 - 15:00 ET by FastEdis beyond the grasp of the obvious.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
And now, today's Shrub Report
April 17, 2007 - 09:50 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd now, today's Shrub Report®:
So, a whacked-out kid goes crazy and kills 32 people. What's the first thing we need to do? Establish blame, of course. Oh, and blame Taylor, er, Charlton Heston. When does Halliburton get brought up? At any rate, this was a very sad tragedy, and this Shrubber weeps for the victims. Why aren't we blaming the Korean peninsula for producing the killer?
Speaking of the second amendment, this legislation in Pennsylvania, if passed, will be the blueprint for every other state in the Union. Gun owners, beware!
Is everybody having a nice spring so far?
My favorite headline of the week, courtesy of Sweetness and Light.
Okay. You had one hit over 30 years ago with Roxy Music. You're 61 years old and calling you washed up would be an understatement. So, why does anybody care what you say?
Fast Ed's extra-warm-and-fuzzy Story Du Jour. Not warm and fuzzy enough for you? Here's another one.
With a headline like this, you just know they'll be at war within a month…
It was just another typical day in beautiful México. Also, here's a heartwarming story about the poor, downtrodden, innocent undocumented workers that are productive citizens of our great land.
Try as they may, the BDS Doomsayers just cannot ruin the economy.
Here's an Al Sharpton update.
Mooslim cabbies to lose their jobs? Speaking of the religion of peace, be careful where you read your Bible. Not f-ed up enough for you? How about this one?
The "religion of peace" is alive and well in Thailand, in the Philippines, and Sweden, too!
Bacon = hate crime!
Bill Cowher wants you to buy his VCR…
The big story isn't that this guy is pulling out of the Louisiana governor's race, but that it took the attorney general to tell him that, hey, if you move to Maryland, how can you govern Louisiana?
Rosie tries to dry hump a poor, innocent girl in Australia, then visits México.
And, finally, happy 48th, Sean Bean, and 35th, Jennifer Garner!
I forgot this story, where th
April 17, 2007 - 10:09 ET by Roger the ShrubberI forgot this story, where they played the wrong anthem for the Russian winner of the Boston Marathon. For the second time in four years.
PBS tonight: "The Case For War: Defense of Freedom"
April 17, 2007 - 15:53 ET by RJ(Reporting a Good media event, so tagging onto your thread Roger)
On PBS tonight: "The Case for War: Defense of Freedom" (check local listings)
It's probably pretty good, because our local uber liberal TV critic panned it as being "baldly propagandist" and that it creates "journalistic damage."
If he hates it, it sounds to me like a "MUST SEE" event!
... now, RJ, did that same cr
April 17, 2007 - 17:15 ET by dahliatravers... now, RJ, did that same critic call Michael Moore's 9/11 film "baldly propagandist" and assert that it creates "journalistic damage"? I'm sure he did. Why am I even asking?
Ha. Of course not Dahlia.
April 17, 2007 - 17:22 ET by RJHa. Of course not Dahlia. I've been doing battle with this guy and his bosses for years, due to his blatant politicalization of the TV Review column. I've been fairly successful. Believe it or not, this is a BIG cutback from the kind of wild-eyed leftist political rantings he used to put out.
Hand to hand combat with medi
April 17, 2007 - 17:27 ET by dahliatraversHand to hand combat with media bias?? Way to go, RJ!
Oh, hell yes, Dahlia
April 17, 2007 - 17:44 ET by RJOh, hell yes. I've been terrorizing (in a friendly way) virtually every columnist in our liberal state newspaper, the Hartford Courant, for years. Actually, except for a couple of them who I've really ticked off, like this TV guy, I have pretty good email relationships over there...more than a dozen of 'em. Even got invited to a letters banquet.
But it's all good fun. ;^>
Supreme Court backs ban on Partial Birth Abortion!
April 18, 2007 - 09:43 ET by RJSupreme Court Backs Ban on Partial Birth Abortion!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8OJ2HV82&show_article=1
Thanks for the link RJ, you j
April 18, 2007 - 09:51 ET by JABThanks for the link RJ, you just made a bad week alot better.
"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
Roger,Cast blame and second g
April 17, 2007 - 10:21 ET by Chris NormanRoger,
Cast blame and second guess. The media is so good at that. It's a wonder we don't put them in charge, but then again, they wouldn't have anyone but themselves to blame and second guess and we know they are incapable of doing that...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Bryan Ferry - is no one safe
April 17, 2007 - 10:29 ET by Hero SquadBryan Ferry - is no one safe from the thought police? Please watch your step when commenting about art and architecture that you find fascinating.
On a related note, I hear that David Cassidy finds the Pol Pot era of Cambodian theater utterly fascinating.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Hahaha! I wouldn't but Bryan
April 17, 2007 - 10:37 ET by Roger the ShrubberHahaha! I wouldn't but Bryan Ferry in the same category as David Cassidy, he's not THAT bad, hahaha!
My iPod just picked Roxy Musi
April 17, 2007 - 12:35 ET by Hero SquadMy iPod just picked Roxy Music's "These Foolish Things!" Guess Bryan can add his recent foolish comments to the lyrics.
Roxy Music's "Street Life" stays in the rotation.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
sure is heart-warming, yeah
April 17, 2007 - 11:03 ET by tumbler_2007I found that item really heart-warming, Sphincter. Our country's more multicultural every day, as it shows us here: "The 61 illegal aliens are natives of Brazil, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Lebanon, Mexico, Slovakia and the United Kingdom, the newspaper reported."
Of course, this hit man er, reporter inflates the numbers; we haven't 14 million illegals in this country. We must give them more time. In fact, it becomes apparent that a lot of the Mexican intruders are being counted multiple times, since they keep re-entering.
If we subtracted all the 3- or 4-time recidivist entries, the total out of Mejico is likely just 5 million. (Nice round number.)
Well, Taco, I noticed, as usu
April 17, 2007 - 11:14 ET by Roger the ShrubberWell, Taco, I noticed, as usual, laughingly, you jumped to the conclusion that I was referring to Mexicans in the second piece. Read the line again, Frijoles.
Let me help you, since the internet is a tricky thing for you:
Also, here's a heartwarming story about the poor, downtrodden, innocent undocumented workers that are productive citizens of our great land.
Wow. The word Mexico does not appear. What a shock. My hook is still in your mouth, Taco, I have to throw you back into the water, you are too small. Thanks for being such an easy fish to catch, once again. Buenos Nachos, Taco!
gee, that's true
April 17, 2007 - 11:24 ET by tumbler_2007I hear ya, Sphincter. Yeah, I jumped to that conclusion. How ghastly stupid of me.
I am so laughingly easy to rob blind, Si.
Admitting you have a problem
April 17, 2007 - 11:58 ET by Roger the ShrubberAdmitting you have a problem is the first step. Taco.
Unfortunately, stupidity is not curable.
Rog...and..."Too bad Ign
April 17, 2007 - 12:04 ET by JABRog...and...
"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
i once had a big rooster
April 17, 2007 - 12:19 ET by tumbler_2007I recall a big rooster we had; and the awful thing that happened to the big guy.
He found an old green frog-lure in the yard, and started pecking at it. Pretty soon his comb was snagged. He fussed trying to pull it off, his foot got stuck, then his wattles. He was a bleeding mess. My dear Mom had to get a pair of pliers and dig the barbs out. He was so exhausted he just laid there like dead while she "operated". I tell you, we were all crying for the bum.
Have you ever got your sphincter snagged that way, Rog ? When you were casting for old guys like Tumbler? I'll bet that hook was way down deep where the sun never shines, and you had to pay to get it extirpated. (extirpate, a fifty-cent word for "yanked out.")
April 17, 2007 - 11:36 ET by FastEd, and as always no proof.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
RE: Mooslim cabbies - good to
April 17, 2007 - 11:41 ET by FastEdRE: Mooslim cabbies - good to see that the constitution trumps religion-law. Work here, play by OUR rules. Wonder why it doesn't work with others?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
For me this was the best head
April 17, 2007 - 09:51 ET by bigtimerFor me this was the best headline of the day....oh no here is the link...http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,477686,00.html
God help us, BT, we are on th
April 17, 2007 - 10:09 ET by Roger the ShrubberGod help us, BT, we are on the same page again, hahah!
Good Morning,I saw that as so
April 17, 2007 - 10:14 ET by bigtimerGood Morning,
I saw that as soon as I posted Roger, you had to have posted while I was posting...too funny!
Isn't it weird that in the af
April 17, 2007 - 10:02 ET by PeterDIsn't it weird that in the aftermath of the firing of Don Imus and the whole discussion on race and the words Imus used to get fired...
That Don Ho died?
You may not have heard it on the news because anchors were afraid of protests by the alleged reverends.
Don Ho
April 17, 2007 - 10:24 ET by Hero SquadI made a joke to that effect yesterday at lunch when I first saw Ho's obituary in the paper. "There's gotta be an Imus joke in there somewhere," is how I phrased it. Either they didn't get it, or didn't think it was funny, but it started a conversation about the whole Imus thing. Which, of course, was not my intention.
Rest in tiny bubbles, Don Ho.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Rush covered that pretty well
April 17, 2007 - 10:32 ET by bigtimerRush covered that pretty well yesterday, he bleeped out the word Ho everytime he was speaking of the passing of Don Ho...it was a riot.
No offense to the Ho family, I loved Tiny Bubbles.
bt,LOL-I heard that, too. P
April 17, 2007 - 12:31 ET by Dave Rbt,
LOL-I heard that, too. People kept walking by my door and giving me the strangest looks because I was laughing so hard.
I must confess that I, too, thought of that idiot Sharpton when I heard that Don had passed on.
Too bad a sad moment such as that was marred even further. I wish Al would crawl back under whatever rock he came out from under.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
Don used to make the joke h
April 17, 2007 - 10:44 ET by rx4musicDon used to make the joke himself that, "If I ever become president, we'll have to change the name of the White House to the Ho House...".
Good bye Don. Thanks for all the tunes...
"I used to be disgusted, but now, I try to be amused..."- E. Costello
rx,Right you are, I forgot ab
April 17, 2007 - 10:47 ET by bigtimerrx,
Right you are, I forgot about that, now I am laughing again about that line!
Nothing like a little laughter in the morning...especially after the likes of yesterday.
Don Ho was a musical diety. I
April 17, 2007 - 11:39 ET by MobiusStripDon Ho was a musical diety. I hadn't heard that he passed until I read this thread. He will be missed by many generations and will certainy be memorialized on the Big Island. I'm putting on his CD now...
I like todays gaggle. Very
April 17, 2007 - 10:09 ET by AJI like todays gaggle. Very befitting of the cookie-cutter style MSM. All their slander seems to follow the same mold.
I think Gaggle is just disg
April 17, 2007 - 11:22 ET by MobiusStripI think Gaggle is just disgusting opportunism, the typical paranoid circle-the-wagons circle jerk you like to engage in. I live in Colorado near enough to Columbine and we didn't do the blame thing here. As an independent and gun owner, I can tell you that most of us up here in the hills have guns- and we come from all walks. My very left wing neighbor has a federal license and the most amazing arsenal you could imagine. There will naturally be a debate regarding a solution to crazies with guns. The dialogue is healthy and it should be welcomed. But no one is taking my gun away- and if things really went to shit, my canyon will be dug in like a deer tick and armed to the teeth. Liberals and Conservatives alike. Neighbors. Don't take the lazy way out and blame liberals. It's a cheap shot and has nothing to do with reality.
"Don't take the lazy w
April 17, 2007 - 11:26 ET by MightyMouth"Don't take the lazy way out and blame liberals."
Well, just who should be blame for restrictive gun laws Einstein? The NRA?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
My point is that you can't st
April 17, 2007 - 11:48 ET by MobiusStripMy point is that you can't stop mentally unstable people from doing this kind of thing. Period. But to blame Liberals for the problem is just stupid. A debate is fine, and should be welcomed. Nothing will change for me in any outcome. Just don't jump down the throats of liberals: we got an s-load of firearms in this country, but statistically not that many crazies willing to do this. Do you really think that liberals, by their very nature, are anti-gun? Not true. Do you think they have a concern about this kind of incident? Very true. I know this as a fact.
Huh?So it's not the liberal
April 17, 2007 - 12:02 ET by MightyMouthHuh?
So it's not the liberals that are ramming gun control down our throats? What does "not stopping mentally unstable people" have to do with not allowing citizens to protect themselves?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Mobi, if there's a "circle the wagons" mentality it's yours.
April 17, 2007 - 12:18 ET by RJMobi, if there's a "circle the wagons" mentality it's yours. (Notice I don't have to use the rest of your juvenile sentence to make my point.) The liberals, which means the Democrats and the media, have already begun doing exactly what Gaggle predicted. It didn't take clarivoyance to know it was coming, but it does take blind circle the wagons denial to refuse to admit it.
The first blog over at Huffta
April 17, 2007 - 12:32 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe first blog over at Hufftard City. Halfway down the blog list.
late reply here- I have work
April 17, 2007 - 16:25 ET by MobiusStriplate reply here- I have work to do. If you listen to the left side of radio you will find that there are very few advocates of gun control, mostly a lot of people raising questions. Most thinking Americans understand that these isolated acts of crazy people have nothing to do with politics. When you feel compelled to equate this to a left vs. right issue, you miss the point and lose the focus. Granted that the left will bring up the issue of gun control, the issue is valid but doesn't go to the core of the situation. The man was sick. The left is discussing how we can keep these threats down by recognizing the symptoms and dealing with them. The right here, as far as I have read, is focused on blaming the left. This is the 'circle jerk' which I phrased before. How about a discussion of underlying cultural pathologies or lack of psychological asessment and response? You guys are smart enough to rise to that, instead of knee-jerk reactions.
I have not blamed "the
April 17, 2007 - 16:33 ET by sarcasmoI have not blamed "the left," because some of them are actually sensible about firearms. I've instead blamed the victim disarmament policies continually-suggested the left in place on that campus. The grab-lobby left is blaming hi-cap magazines & pro-gun people, just like I said they would this morning before sunrise. The concealed weapon permit people warned about this, and then it happened after they were ignored, and you expect us to say what???
JMR
"very few advocates of gun control on the left" -Mobius
April 17, 2007 - 17:09 ET by RJ"Do you think liberals by their very nature are anti-gun?" What the heck are you smoking, Mobi? Talk about "circle the wagons" denial! Of course the majority of gun control advocates are on the left.
Notice that, once again I did not have to resort to the juvenile descriptives...as you so often find it necessary to to....why is that, Mobi? Because you're not confident enough in your logical arguments?
In any event, your claim that there are "very few advocates of gun control on the left" is equally ludicrous. Just on today's NB threads alone, CNN, BBC, CBS, The Early Show, and MSNBC are showcased for their "gun control" questions. In addition, I've heard liberal control advocates calling in to conservative shows all day long.
As usual, you're blowing smoke, Mobi.
I "misspoke" on tha
April 17, 2007 - 18:26 ET by MobiusStripI "misspoke" on that- blame Alberto. The people I know on the left are rural types and guns are a given. Coming from Chicago, the equation changes. Again, I own guns. I'm sometimes liberal. The two are not mutually exclusive. When you paint it so then there is no more discussion. Just mudslinging and lack of progress. And for me the right here is often happier with that than discourse. Floyd's Barbershop is a happy place. And a philosophical circle jerk. No new thoughts. Like the hard left as well. But what is the point in discussion if no one gives credence to opposing views?
You preach about "mudslinging", Mobi?
April 17, 2007 - 18:47 ET by RJYou preach about "mudslinging?" That's your main stock in trade, Mobi.
I enjoy intelligent debate with opposing views, but you're an intellectual phony. I see no value in debating someone who cannot rely on his mental prowess or reason, and instead uses silly juvenile descriptors. That person is always, ultimately, a disappointing and dishonest fraud who either disappears or falls back on "mudslinging."
"So it's not the liberal
April 17, 2007 - 12:25 ET by Roger the Shrubber"So it's not the liberals that are ramming gun control down our throats?"
MM, you are so naive. Everybody knows it's the ultra-powerful Knife, Club, and Pointed Stick lobby that is behind it all.
Silly me, I donate to the L
April 17, 2007 - 12:36 ET by MightyMouthSilly me, I donate to the Lawn Dart lobby.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Dude, that is SOOOOO 1988.
April 17, 2007 - 13:01 ET by Roger the ShrubberDude, that is SOOOOO 1988.
Rog, what can I say? I am r
April 17, 2007 - 13:15 ET by MightyMouthRog, what can I say? I am running out of material. Wait till I start using my 70's stuff! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Puuleese, not the Mood Ring!
April 17, 2007 - 13:20 ET by FastEdPuuleese, not the Mood Ring! Black lights and Lava Lamps, woah, groovey.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
I heart jarts!
April 17, 2007 - 13:22 ET by Roger the ShrubberI heart jarts!
Memories - LD's were a "
April 17, 2007 - 14:39 ET by FastEdMemories - LD's were a "gateway" to other targets, started with the hoops, graduated to "soda" cans, then on to balsa airplanes, then to feet - which of course had to esculate to verbal abuse and then near physical. It was a good thing there weren't any stray cats or squirrls around, back then. Good clean fun in suburbia USA.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Liquid acid blotters to play
April 17, 2007 - 13:24 ET by bigtimerLiquid acid blotters to play with, brain burning candles...oh yeah, those were the days...lol!
Would ya'll believe I still
April 17, 2007 - 13:29 ET by MightyMouthWould ya'll believe I still have my white shoes and white belt? The belt shrunk after all this time but the shoes still fit! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
The belt shrunk after all thi
April 17, 2007 - 13:32 ET by bigtimerThe belt shrunk after all this time but the shoes still fit! :-)
So did my wide levi bells MM...but just a little....hehehee
Ha! I had the suit I was ma
April 17, 2007 - 13:34 ET by MightyMouthHa! I had the suit I was married in until about 1997 when we sold it in a garage sale. A skinny 13 year old boy bought it and it fit him perfect!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Whatever you say, Herb Tarlek
April 17, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Roger the ShrubberWhatever you say, Herb Tarlek.
I was thinking more like th
April 17, 2007 - 17:15 ET by MightyMouthI was thinking more like this guy Rog.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
LOL...I thought for sure when
April 17, 2007 - 17:24 ET by bigtimerLOL...I thought for sure when I clicked that on you were gonna have Elvis there MM...
Snicker...snicker...okay, really laughing out loud...I should of taken the time to look for one, or Engelbert Humperdink(sp)....hehehee
How dare you besmirch the fin
April 17, 2007 - 19:50 ET by Roger the ShrubberHow dare you besmirch the fine name of John Candy!!!!! You cad!
I don't think he will mind
April 17, 2007 - 20:39 ET by MightyMouthI don't think he will mind :-p
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
OMG!I forgot good ol' Herb Ta
April 17, 2007 - 17:21 ET by bigtimerOMG!
I forgot good ol' Herb Tarlek, you just had to laugh seeing him, even before he spoke!
Thanks for the memories.
Seriously, my smile couldn't be bigger as I post this.
Let me make one more point. I
April 17, 2007 - 12:08 ET by MobiusStripLet me make one more point. I'm all for concealed gun carry laws- provided a license is given to those who have passed a rigorous background test, including some form of psychological evaluation. I don't want crazies carrying guns around but I think gun ownership is an inherent right- unless you're crazy. Which still won't stop crimes of passion.
Mob,Have you not listened to
April 17, 2007 - 11:29 ET by bigtimerMob,
Have you not listened to the slant, questions, insinuations coming from the media since yesterdays shootings?
Leftists at work, this is just another way to bring up the gun rights and the 2nd Amendment again.
Disgusting, these people are not even buried yet.
That's liberals for you, such brotherly love.
It's a debate regarding What
April 17, 2007 - 11:59 ET by MobiusStripIt's a debate regarding What to do? We have this problem, here, apparently more than anywhere else. It's tied to our "liberal" gun ownership laws. I have guns. I am not afraid of guns. I have been through a home invasion and have a family. I am not wimpy regarding guns, and have an attack dog and can defend my family. Doing the Liberals are the problem schtick is not helpful. I don't think we can change gun laws to much effect- but I don't live innercity and don't have to face gangbangers. This guy was just plain crazy- who, conservative or liberal- could predict his actions?
Tumbler wrecked his SUV!
April 17, 2007 - 10:29 ET by Dave RTumbler had a wreck.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
Holy crap. Fifteen people ins
April 17, 2007 - 10:35 ET by Roger the ShrubberHoly crap. Fifteen people inside that SUV? Did they pour out like little clowns, wearing bandoliers and sombreros?
Rog and Dave...I was trying m
April 17, 2007 - 10:45 ET by bigtimerRog and Dave...
I was trying my best not to post here...but I am still laughing at Dave taking his aggression out this morning...
Can't blame him one little bit.
oh ho ho
April 17, 2007 - 10:53 ET by tumbler_2007If bigtimer ever ceases laughing, she'll become "teeny timer." Laughing pumps her up all day. GAS ?
bt,It's like I told Blonde th
April 17, 2007 - 10:56 ET by Dave Rbt,
It's like I told Blonde this morning. I was really surprised that I didn't see the "Access Denied" message when I logged in.
After the little tirade I dumped on our resident hipanderer yesterday, I was sure I was out of here for a week.
I'm still steamed at that guy, not so much due to what he said to me, but his continuing to call misterbill misterboil.
Misterbill has more American in his pocket lint than that hispanic goodwill ambassador has in his entire body.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
I am past disgusted too for t
April 17, 2007 - 11:00 ET by bigtimerI am past disgusted too for the same reasons Dave.
All I can say is others need to complain too....I said I was going to leave if he is still here, but heck this site is addictive, no can do.
Therefore I am eating my words.
dear dave r, bigtimer
April 17, 2007 - 11:34 ET by tumbler_2007The same reasons? You fuss over misterboil?
Hey; he's a big boy now. He needs no free pass. I never abuse him verbally; I simply give him a sample of reductio ad absurdum when he gets too feisty. He has been kind of pathetic, after all. I know he's likely losing sleep over Tumbler; but why do youz two have this ungodly chip on your shoulders ? Stop worrying.
It is too bad
April 17, 2007 - 11:37 ET by FastEdIt is too bad , and I'd ask - Your Proof?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Don't let him get to you, Dave.
April 17, 2007 - 11:03 ET by RJDon't let him get to you, Dave. It's what he lives for. I've been called Goebels, brownshirt, SS, Son of Satan, etc, etc......big deal (shrug)
Like I said yesterday, the level of emotion I give Tumbler is about the same as watching a badly made movie..... ;^>
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I thought I
April 17, 2007 - 11:06 ET by Roger the ShrubberWhoa, whoa, whoa! I thought I was the son of Satan? I thought you were the third cousin (twice removed) of Satan? Or was I the "sphincter of Satan"? Damn, the not-so-eloquent Tumblerisms get blurred after a while, don't they?
Definitely "son", Roger
April 17, 2007 - 11:12 ET by RJDefinitely "son", Roger. I suppose that would make us brothers....
Well, in that case, I get the
April 17, 2007 - 11:16 ET by Roger the ShrubberWell, in that case, I get the top bunk.
Rog,That's okay. According
April 17, 2007 - 11:21 ET by Dave RRog,
That's okay. According to Debra, our resident theocrat, I am Satan!
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
Okay, there are entirely too
April 17, 2007 - 11:52 ET by Roger the ShrubberOkay, there are entirely too many Satans running around here.
No, no, Roger. That would m
April 17, 2007 - 11:59 ET by RJNo, no, Roger. That would make Dave the Daddy Satan.
OK, another whopper
April 17, 2007 - 12:00 ET by tumbler_2007He just can't help it !
Of course, you're being an amateur comedian; harmless this time.
But if Debra sees that, she'll say to herself: "I never said he was Satan. Why has he told them that?" You could yet learn something valuable from the mighty Rush Limbaugh, Dave.
Words mean things.
If one cannot say something good, why say anything? You haven't even the talent to dredge up a cheap laugh; but you never back off.
Has anyone else noticed how t
April 17, 2007 - 12:08 ET by Clear thinkerHas anyone else noticed how tumbler and Keith Olbermann relate in the same way?
I may have uncovered the true tumbler, hmmmm.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
dave can protect himself
April 17, 2007 - 11:19 ET by tumbler_2007Come on, R J BS. Dave R is capable of defending himself. Like he did before with the obscenity-laced temper tantrum. I'll give you this much. You may tell the Big Lie like an expert, and use words like demented, etc., But you don't lower yourself to toilet bowl status bashing me with indecent language. I have to thank you for that. And the rest I can even forgive. (For that matter I forgive all of you spoiled brats.)
Mr. "Ambassador of goodw
April 17, 2007 - 13:01 ET by RJMr. "Ambassador of goodwill from the hispanic community", you try to split hairs with your self-righteous attempt to portray yourself at a higher plane than your opponents. But, in light of the over-the-top rants you regularly produce, one could say you'd have to be demented to believe that.
thank You, Thank You, THANK YOU
April 17, 2007 - 13:12 ET by tumbler_2007Thanks for addressing me by the cool title, mon ami RoJay.
I am indeed on a higher plane than some others of us. Which means I ordinarily don't repay you in the currency you deserve. I give you equal status, offer you reasonable arguments, and keep my anger under control. When I'm angry, which is not often. Thanks again, Pal.
"I am indeed on a higher
April 17, 2007 - 13:17 ET by RJ"I am indeed on a higher plane..."
And, of course, you will never see that is an indisputable indication of your dementia, Mr "Ambassador of goodwill from the hispanic community."
no, my eyes tell me
April 17, 2007 - 16:10 ET by tumbler_2007No, I'll never see it so. My eyes are old but I see well.
The higher my plane, the tinier you look, R J. You look like a veritable fly-speck from way up here. Pardon my saying so.
Cool it down, tumbler
April 17, 2007 - 17:17 ET by Matthew SheffieldNo one is on a higher plane here. We don't appreciate personal remarks like you've been making on this thread.
guess I should take it back.
April 18, 2007 - 11:27 ET by tumbler_2007And I will.
Has our Pal taken back "dementia"--?
Skip it, I don't worry about things like that. Even if our planes are the same. I'm all for free speech.
The afternoon drive guys on
April 17, 2007 - 10:46 ET by John in CAThe afternoon drive guys on KFI, John & Ken, refer to the houses many illegals reside in as clown houses. The cops will make an illegal alien raid and find dozens of people living in the same house.
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
I like that.
April 17, 2007 - 13:11 ET by Roger the ShrubberI like that.
John
April 17, 2007 - 15:22 ET by Dave R...find dozens of people living in the same house.
Thats only when they aren't all riding in the same car. :-)
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
Rog,How utterly heartless, p
April 17, 2007 - 10:50 ET by Dave RRog,
How utterly heartless, politically incorrect and insensitive of you!
I love it! :-)
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
yeah, hardy har
April 17, 2007 - 10:50 ET by tumbler_2007Har and har.
It says a Guatemalan was driver of that wreck. Guatemalteco.
Tumbler is a Spanish-American by the grace of God. Dave R is a nincompoop. Just try harder, Jughead.
Did you really just say "
April 17, 2007 - 12:47 ET by Hero SquadDid you really just say "If one cannot say something good, why say anything?" and "Dave R is a nincompoop" in the same thread?
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
VT terrorist signed note Ishmael X
April 17, 2007 - 10:58 ET by pearlVT terrorist signed note Ishmael X
Well, well well. And a liberal English major also.
Update: looks like "Ismail Ax"
I knew something was up as soon as we started to hear that "he is a loner". He's a sure terrorist when that happens.
Pearl,Maybe that is why I hea
April 17, 2007 - 11:06 ET by bigtimerPearl,
Maybe that is why I heard two different names reported yesterday, I wished the news would just wait with their reports until they know just the facts....this race to out-do the others for ratings is beyond pathetic and non-responsible, but there is never any accountability held when the get it wrong, look at the Duke case for example.
On and on they go....never ends.
What's even more pathetic i
April 17, 2007 - 11:09 ET by DyneWhat's even more pathetic is they'll never admit they're wrong and issue corrections/retractions/apologies for nearly all of their errors.
I wonder how Rosie is going
April 17, 2007 - 11:08 ET by MightyMouthI wonder how Rosie is going to work in GWB and Dick Cheney's obvious involvement in the massacre?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I understand that there are l
April 17, 2007 - 11:20 ET by ForeverOnTheRightI understand that there are liberals out their that want us to give out or sell nuclear material to nations around the world. First of all, I don’t think this is a good idea, it’s nuts with a capital N. There are too many nations that we can’t trust that they’d use it for peaceful means or that the nuclear material would not end up in the hands of terrorists. I am a little incredulous because it’s so out there stupid it could be just a rumor as far as I know. Second, liberals want gun control. Guns are NOT the problem, it’s the person with the gun that’s the problem! I don’t expect liberals to ever understand this. Third, handing out nuclear material is like handing out guns and expecting the person to use it for a hammer to build a home
My question regarding the V
April 17, 2007 - 11:36 ET by DyneMy question regarding the VA Tech shootings is, how will the media treat this heroic professor?
WOW! "There are two t
April 17, 2007 - 11:44 ET by MightyMouthWOW!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Dyne,Great point....let's see
April 17, 2007 - 11:51 ET by bigtimerDyne,
Great point....let's see how they give tribute to this man and his life.
I'm waitin'... haven't seen much so far, just his name and profession...great link and thanks for the info.
Prediction confirmed.
April 17, 2007 - 11:57 ET by sarcasmoFolks who were here about 8-9 hours ago might recall my prediction that this shooter was going to be either an adherent of "the religion of peace," again, or on legal "antidepressant" drugs, again. He was on the (legal) drugs, just like a LOT of school shooters have-been, despite scant-at-best media/political notice of this elephant in the living-room. If this kind of correlation with school shootings had happened with ANY illegal drug (pick your favorite!) we'd be seeing media-hysteria. Instead, due to the political & ad-buying clout of big pharma, we're likely to see little or nothing. Again. I know people hate when I say these 4 words, but "I told you so."
JMR
oh, dick tracy
April 17, 2007 - 12:07 ET by tumbler_2007You are really clairevoyant!
Now; what about the other 77 hundred boys & girls on campus partaking of those same legal meds?
Think of the line-up they'd form, after another incident. Five miles long.
Nope, or I'd win the FL Lot
April 17, 2007 - 12:18 ET by sarcasmoNope, or I'd win the FL Lotto, and that hasn't happened. This prediction was easy, because of the HUGE correlation of both radical Islam and legally-prescribed antidepressant drugs to school violence. The solution might be for doctors to quit overprescribing these dangerous drugs despite the fact that the drug companies own so-damn many politicians...And the solution for the news media might be honest reporting for a change, even if it loses them an advertiser.
JMR
Sarc,Have you read anything o
April 17, 2007 - 12:17 ET by Roger the ShrubberSarc,
Have you read anything or seen anything about this guy being on meds? I haven't, and was wondering.
Just saw it on Fox News. Bu
April 17, 2007 - 12:22 ET by sarcasmoJust saw it on Fox News. But expect all media to blame it on hi-cap mags, the antidepressant drug angle might lose big pharma some money, and we can't have THAT!! This one will follow the media-blackout pattern of previous legal-drug-involved school shootings -- and that's another prediction (I'm doing ok today, not perfect though thanks to Bal!).
JMR
sarc,They aren't going to los
April 17, 2007 - 13:16 ET by bigtimersarc,
They aren't going to lose money, if they do shouldn't be the matter here, drug Co.'s aren't what or who should be blamed anyway.... it is the parents and schools that recommend these drugs to students via the parents for their control of the kids, and it makes it easier on the parents too.
I know they tried to get me to okay that on my son 25 years ago or there abouts,they were going to hold him back if I didn't agree... that is how long this crap has been going on....I said no way, my ex and I got into a huge fight about it...NO WAY...he was six years old, he didn't pay attention all the time, he had ADD blah blah blah, his mind wandered, he drew to much, (he is a beautiful artist to this day) he was SIX, teachers are lazy, some of them, please do not jump on me here, my aunt was a teacher for 25 years and a great one...I blame the laziness and permissiveness of this society, the nanny state, parents not saying no, kids at six are active, as they should be...oh I could go on and on, now I am rambling, but the blame goes to the parents and teachers IMO.
Our fault now....being rich is bad, again....
April 17, 2007 - 12:14 ET by bigtimerNow it's OUR Fault....anyone but his, and the media is following all of this, first with Columbine it was bullies, now it is rich kids fault....http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108&page=1
Pathetic piece of shite this person who did this....watch the media go with it...Shep Smith is yammering about it now....on and on they go.
bt,You are right. The "
April 17, 2007 - 12:19 ET by Dave Rbt,
You are right. The "blame anybody and everybody except the person responsible" libs will eat this up.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
I said it yesterday to my co-
April 17, 2007 - 12:39 ET by Airforce_5_OI said it yesterday to my co-workers that the blame game would start with the legal gun owners and the American public.
Around the world the "cowboy mentality" of America would be the cause of this young man's rampage.
The lack of waiting to take responsibility for their own actions is the problem.
Reduce the U.S. Carbon Footprint. Send Rosie to Iran. Airforce_5_O 04/04/2007
Who knew Ireland had a "
April 17, 2007 - 13:05 ET by GothampcWho knew Ireland had a "language minister"? Does the US have something comparable?
"In 2003, Ireland's language minister ruled that Doon or Dun Bleisce, Gaelic for Fort of the Harlot, would have to change its name to An Dun or simply the Fort."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266422,00.html
Whacha gonna do when they co
April 17, 2007 - 13:24 ET by RackieWhacha gonna do when they come for you?
you gotta wonder about some folks
Tax Day. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :-(
April 17, 2007 - 13:37 ET by Dave RSince it is tax day, I'd like to pass along to my NB friends a little something my brother just sent.
Since it is tax season....
Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can
understand.
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the
bill for all ten
comes to $100.
If they paid their bill the way we
pay our taxes, it would go something
like this:
The first four men
(the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would
pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The
ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay
$59.
So, that's what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in
the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the
arrangement, until one day,
the owner threw them a curve. "Since you
are all such good customers," he
said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of
your daily beer by $20."Drinks for the
ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way
we pay our taxes so the
first four men were unaffected. They would still
drink for free. But
what about the other six men - the paying customers? How
could they
divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair
share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted
that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man
would
each end up being paid to drink his beer.
So, the bar owner
suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's
bill by roughly the same
amount, and he proceeded to work out the
amounts each should pay.
And
so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100%
savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh
now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12
(25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The
tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was
better off than before. And the first four continued
to drink for free. But
once outside the restaurant, the men began to
compare their
savings.
"I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man. He
pointed
to the tenth man," but he got $10!"
"Yeah, that's right,"
exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar,
too. It's unfair that he got
ten times more than I!"
"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why
should he get $10 back
when I got only two? The wealthy get all the
breaks!"
"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't
get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"
The nine men
surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't
show up for drinks, so the nine sat
down and had beers without him. But when
it came time to pay the bill,
they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money
between all of them for even half of the
bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is
how our
tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the
most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for
being
wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
might
start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat
friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of
Economics
University of Georgia
For those who understand, no
explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is
possible.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
Both Sides Exploit
April 17, 2007 - 13:45 ET bySo let me get this straight?
The Newsbusters are furious that those on the left are going to try to use this tragedy as a reason to support stricter gun control?
Yet in the same breath they exploit this tragedy as reason that we should have less gun control.
So which side is worse? I'd say both are equally disgraceful for exploiting this national tragedy. You should refrain from attacking the behavior of others when yours is equally as offensive.
Hey, saying "we told you so" is NOT in any way "exploiting"!!
April 17, 2007 - 14:02 ET by sarcasmoHey, saying "we told you so" is NOT in any way "exploiting" this tragedy, it's stating the obvious. Concealed weapons permit holders WARNED ABOUT THIS VERY KIND OF EVENT. We told you so.
JMR
we told you so? Isn't that
April 17, 2007 - 14:08 ET bywe told you so?
Isn't that exactly what the other side is saying?
furthermore, please explain to me how you can 'prove' that this could have been avoided had students been carrying their own guns. Speculation does not count. Stick to facts.
Strong "gun control"
April 17, 2007 - 14:58 ET by FastEdStrong "gun control" does not control the individual who may not be stable at any particular time. Strong gun control did not stop this death, nor did it keep the guns out of people who are know to break the law. NCPA stats, CATO stats, Open Carry laws article, Hoover Insitution , for a start.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Um Syg,They would of brought
April 17, 2007 - 16:23 ET by bigtimerUm Syg,
They would of brought the insane piece of work down with a piece they were carrying before he could kill anymore.
Simple as that.
Here is some more info on thi
April 17, 2007 - 14:39 ET by bigtimerHere is some more info on this guy .....http://www.thesmokinggun.com/
Mexican eveningwear.
April 17, 2007 - 16:11 ET by Roger the ShrubberMexican eveningwear.
Chihua HOO a
April 17, 2007 - 16:19 ET by tumbler_2007They call her Tequila Sheila
More AGW BS!!!
April 17, 2007 - 20:30 ET by gfrrmanGet this, we all know that according to the AGW believer crowd, GW causes an increase in hurricanes, although last year it was shown to be BS!!! Well now it can cause LESS hurricanes too..
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1741945220070417
Another "Ripley's Believe it or Not".........
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER