Monday afternoon ABCNews.com was quick to put up a speculative posting, without any real knowledge of what the shooter used, headlined, “Lapse of Federal Law Allows Sale of Large Ammo Clips” (NewsBusters item), and a bit later ABCNews.com posted an interactive poll with a very leading question: “Do you think this incident is a reason to pass stricter gun control legislation?” But in a World News story, while Jake Tapper highlighted calls for stricter gun laws, he also gave equal time to calls “for greater access to guns” so people can protect themselves and he undermined ABC's idle ammo clip posting by pointing out how since “politicians don't necessarily know the details” of what really occurred, “they don't know whether any laws were broken or any loopholes need to be closed.” Tapper also discredited the assumption of the unscientific ABCNews.com poll, citing how a Gallup survey found the public is “more inclined to blame these incidents on the ways parents raise their children or on popular culture than on the availability of guns.”
After recalling how following the Columbine shooting, then-President Bill Clinton “called for the Republican-controlled Congress to close the loophole. It did not, which still angers Marjorie Lindholm, at the time a Sophomore at Columbine,” Tapper pointed out how “a massacre in Texas in 1991 prompted a complete opposite reaction -- for greater access to guns” since a patron at the restaurant had to leave her gun in her car “so as not to violate the law against carrying a gun in public.”
Neither the CBS Evening News (at least in the first half of its one-hour broadcast, DC's CBS affiliate did not carry the second half), or the NBC Nightly News devoted a story to gun control or other remedies.
A “The Blotter” blog, run by ABC's investigative unit led by Brian Ross, at 2:30pm EDT posted: “Lapse of Federal Law Allows Sale of Large Ammo Clips.” An excerpt:
High capacity ammo clips became widely available for sale when Congress failed to renew a law that banned assault weapons....Virginia law enforcement officials have not identified the weapon used in the shootings today at Virginia Tech, but gun experts say the number of shots fired indicate, at the very least, that the gunman had large quantities of ammunition.
"When you have a weapon that can shoot off 20, 30 rounds very quickly, you're going to have a lot more injuries," said Peter Hamm of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
The ABCNews.com home page, by late afternoon, asked: “As Seen on World News: Is Shooting Grounds for Gun Control?” Clicking on the link launched an interactive pop-up:
There are at least 29 confirmed dead in the shooting at Virginia Tech University, making it the worst campus shooting in American history. Law enforcement officials believe the gunman was firing at least two 9mm semi-automatic pistols.Do you think this incident is a reason to pass stricter gun control legislation?
- Yes. This shows the violence that can occur when someone has access to handguns.
- No. Violent shootings are isolated incidents and it's irresponsible to link them to gun control.
- I'm not sure. I need more information.
Tapper's story on the April 16 World News:
“Gun violence on a campus, a reminder of that grim morning at Columbine High School eight years ago this week. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others, before turning the guns on themselves that day. A public outcry followed. Violent video games and movies were blamed, as were goth culture, heavy metal music and bullying. Then-President Bill Clinton pushed for stricter gun control. Harris and Klebold bought their guns at a gun show, which are exempt from federal background check laws. So, Clinton called for the Republican-controlled Congress to close the loophole. It did not, which still angers Marjorie Lindholm, at the time a Sophomore at Columbine.”Marjorie Lindholm, former Columbine student: “We're the ones who can change this and nothing's changed since Columbine. You know, and it does make me sick. It makes me physically ill.”
Tapper: “A massacre in Texas in 1991 prompted a complete opposite reaction -- for greater access to guns. At a Luby's cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, a gunman came in and killed 23 people. Suzanna Hupp who survived the attack, had left her handgun in her car, so as not to violate the law against carrying a gun in public. Convinced her parents might still be alive if she'd had her gun with her, Hupp led the change the law to allow Texans to carry concealed weapons. Whatever remedies they seek, Americans regularly react with revulsion to shootings such as today's, but so far these types of crimes have not fundamentally altered public opinion on guns. Polls show Americans support stricter gun control, but they are more inclined to blame these incidents on the ways parents raise their children [45% in Gallup poll shown on screen] or on popular culture [26%] than on the availability of guns [21%], a sentiment then-Governor Bush expressed in a presidential debate in 2000.”
Bush, October 11, 2000: “There seems to be a lot of preoccupation, not necessarily in this debate, butn just in general on law. But there's a larger law, love your neighbor like you'd like to be loved yourself.”
Tapper: “Americans seem skeptical, Charlie, that the evil intentions or actions of one man can necessarily be prevented by laws.”
Charles Gibson: “Jake, it's going to be some time in coming, I suspect, as we get reaction from law enforcement people around the country and from legislators about this. But has there been immediate reaction today?”
Tapper: “Nothing, in terms of any calls for action. People, politicians, don't necessarily know the details yet. They don't know whether any laws were broken or any loopholes need to be closed. So right now, there's just been an outpouring of sympathy and support.”
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





Tapper: “Americans seem skeptical, Charlie, that the evil intentions or actions of one man can necessarily be prevented by laws.”














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A Symptom Of Our "Chain Letter Society"?
April 16, 2007 - 20:30 ET by Daniel DiRitoRead an analysis of the influences in our "Chain Letter Society" that may be precipitating events like the tragedy at Virginia Tech and how our focus on winning and being number one may be fostering a generation of children with fully inadequate coping skills who have a misguided sense of self-worth...here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/chain_letter_society_on_the_virginia_tech_tragedy.php
And yet...
April 16, 2007 - 20:50 ET by c5thenIt's possible that this tragedy was perpetrated by a foreign student from China here on a student visa.
http://www.worldnetd...
jumping to conclusions is almost always bad.
If he is a Chinese Ntaional
April 16, 2007 - 21:08 ET by BW222If he is a Chinese Ntaional exchange student, it's MSM's biggest nightmare come true; they were hoping for a redneck NRA member.
If so, it will be interesting to see who does the most spinning - MSM or the Administration trying to prove it doesn't let just anyone in with its open borders and visa programs.
chinee
April 17, 2007 - 00:55 ET by tejanodiablogooks on the wire !!!
when in doubt, whup it out ..
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
He was a South Korean nationa
April 17, 2007 - 08:43 ET by Gat New YorkHe was a South Korean national, not Chinese. He was here as a resident alien (student). He apparently had a gun license. Concerning gun control, you are allowed to carry a gun on campus but are not permitted to have a gun in the dorms or in the classrooms. It was also not what would be called an assault weapon.
Yeah, I think that there ough
April 16, 2007 - 21:27 ET by jdhawkYeah, I think that there ought to be more stringent gun control laws. I mean, look it, there wasn't one person in that entire school that had the ability to defend themselves from this nut. If we pass even more stringent gun control laws, there may be an even greater chance that some nut will not only kill and injure people, but get away with it as well.
Which brings to mind why schools are always targeted for this incidents? Because no one, and in some case that means even law enforcement, are allowed to carry a gun. Even when your state may allow it and you have a permit to carry a concealed gun you can not carry a gun on school grounds. If you do, you are subject to immediate dismissal as a faculty or student and most likely prosecution. It's a zero tolerance world on our campuses - except if you are nut.
I wonder how the families and friends of the victims are squaring this ridiculous policy with their losses today?
Meanwhile, our drive by media and do-gooder organizations across the country are moving into high gear to ensure that the next nut, criminal, wack job, terrorist, et al is not hampered in any way in their ability to carry out their heinous deeds with firearms.
The result of these murders will be that the average citizen has even less of a chance of defending himself against these people.
This is why law abiding gun
April 16, 2007 - 21:33 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveThis is why law abiding gun owners need to be more vocal than ever in protecting and strengthening our gun rights. Our politicians need to hear from us on this issue. We need more visibility on the crimes that are prevented and criminals stopped by armed citizens.
"I'd rather be bald than to pretend that I'm not!" --Mean Gene Dr. Love on comb-overs.
Insanity is now normal --- all reason has been suspended
April 16, 2007 - 22:32 ET by w0tmHere in Kansas where we finally passed a right to carry law over the governor's veto, a 25-year Teacher of the Year was fired for forgetting he had left an unloaded .22 target practice pistol in his car trunk in the school parking lot. Closest ammunition was at his home. He made the mistake of announcing to his class to "stay busy" while he went home five minutes away to leave the gun there. Before the teacher got to his car, a disgruntled student had already gone to the principal. Zero tolerance. Career over. Many of our schools now have full-time police officers paid by the school district on campus during school hours and after school events. BUT NO FIREARMS! Our local district now wastes $200,000 a year on this. Police officers but NO GUNS! was a "compromise" between a few parents but mostly outside anti-gun groups who wanted no police on campus at all (in spite of several student shootings) and parents who wanted to see their children protected. What can an unarmed police officer do confronted by a kid with an arsenal from his dad's gun locker? Call 911 and have another police officer bring a gun hoping someone is still alive by the time they arrive.
"Politically Correct" is truly going to kill us all.
To take that point to the ext
April 17, 2007 - 10:32 ET by Hero SquadTo take that point to the extreme: If everybody in the classroom had a gun, it's quite possible only one person would've died in that room yesterday.
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
And for a not-so-extreme an
April 17, 2007 - 10:39 ET by sarcasmoAnd for a not-so-extreme angle, just a one in ten chance of a .32 in a purse/backpack might have substantially-reduced casualties. I really want people who believe in the grab lobby to come here and try to debate the facts of this massacre with us. I don't think they will...
JMR
They already are:http://carol
April 17, 2007 - 13:10 ET by Gat New YorkThey already are:
http://carolynmccarthy.house.gov/?sectionid=155§iontree=155&itemid=613
Looking for One Dimensional Answers
April 16, 2007 - 21:37 ET by securityThe tendency to look for ONE cause or reason for trends or psychological problems - then, politicizing those reasons ultimately harms society.
Human behavior is complex and sociological trends are equally as complex.
The media didn't like the res
April 16, 2007 - 21:56 ET by bigtimerThe media didn't like the results from the poll so they do their best to change it with their own words, must of killed them to put it on the screen...notice how it is called unscientific when the leftists don't like it one little bit.
Typical.
Btw...McCain was for this closing this loop-hole...and there is a lot more to it than the simple way the are putting this, I will try to look for a link tomorrow if I have the time, speaking of time, that was part of the problem if memory serves me correctly...it would of put gun shows and such out of business,as was meant to be by the leftists...and some RINO's like McCain.
I was furious...so was the NRA.
They'll get what they want -- no way to stop it
April 16, 2007 - 22:10 ET by w0tmReality in dealing with any issue was lost long ago. The left and the MSM will decide how to use this and then won't let go until they get what they want. Anti-gun laws matching those of the U.K. were going to wait until 2009 but may now happen sooner. The fact that Virginia is a right to carry state will be pounded on by the MSM. They will NOT mention possession of a handgun on all school campuses is a felony in Virginia. Their right to carry law exempts all public property as well as all schools, public or private. This is true in many states. I wonder if the governor and legislature who, in effect, established "kill zones" for the deranged now have second thoughts? See:
http://www.worldnetd...
No "hand guns allowed" areas in right to carry states just identify areas to shooters where they can kill the most people before police show up and take them out. A few armed citizens on campus today would have probably saved many lives. The above article is reality but the result of this tragedy will be just the opposite of what should happen. Laws will be passed, guns confiscated and everyone will be told to feel safer.
Truth, facts, common sense and reality have nothing to do with what our world is today.
Getting the truth out is our job
April 17, 2007 - 07:13 ET by c5thenWe can help defuse the gun-control radicals. The plain simple truth is that having some of the students and/or faculty that were armed could have minimized this tragedy.
VA laws allow colleges and Universities to declair themselves as "gun free" zones, which almost all have done. This just means that on campuses, it's a guarentee that no one has a gun except the "bad guys". These are mini-cosmoses of what this country would be in for if the gun control radicals win. The only ones who will have guns will be the bad guys and the police who take 15-20 min to respond at best.
VPI
April 16, 2007 - 22:11 ET by Gordon SchumwayFrom my cold dead hands...
Gordo
NRA Life Member
Melmac
When you hear liberals pushin
April 17, 2007 - 07:26 ET by Dave RWhen you hear liberals pushing gun control for “public safety” they are lying to you. The liberals, who are, at heart, totalitarians, do not care about criminals with guns. They have no fear of them whatsoever.
Charles Gibson is a liberal, and therefore a totalitarian who hates all things American, especially the concept of freedom. What Charles and his ilk truly fear is you and I owning a firearm, as that represents independence, a core element of freedom which the liberal totalitarians despise.
Homeland Security is you, at home, with a loaded firearm.
The VA Tech shooting is NOT t
April 17, 2007 - 07:31 ET by AlgerHissThe VA Tech shooting is NOT the worst mass murder in US history.
The VA Tech shooting is NOT the worst school rampage.
The Bath School Disaster...Bath Township, Michigan...1927: High property taxes caused a farmer and school board member, Andrew Kehoe, to dynamite the local school. 45 killed and 58 injured.
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
Ban -- uh, everything??
April 17, 2007 - 17:08 ET by w0tmSo, let's see. Applying today's mindset to 1927, ban farmers, ban school boards, ban high taxes (OK on that one!), ban dynamite, ban baths and ban the year 1927. That should do it.
Check this out. London police marching WITH local citizens to restore gun rights! "It is not clear whether London's criminals were impressed by the march. Time
will tell. The police are rather despondent." If this wasn't so serious with people losing their lives at the alter of Political Correctness, the image of such a march is hysterical to picture.
<http://www.settingtheworldtorights.com/node/487>
We are definitely a world gone mad.
View <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c> to change your mind about liberals forever.
Hello everyone,because this is just the begining go here to help
April 17, 2007 - 10:52 ET by JABHey folks, you might want to go support our NRA, they are going to need us more than ever now. The lib's and the msm are going to cost this group a bunch of money trying to squash our second amendment rights.
"To bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
Or go on the real offensive
April 17, 2007 - 11:11 ET by sarcasmoOr go on the real offensive outside the DC Beltway, and give money to these politically-incorrect guys, or these "no compromise" guys! And consider, amid the media bigotry that manages to ignore all pro-gun-rights groups except one, just why that would be? It's a twofold "why" question: Why all these groups to "reinvent the wheel"? (Answer: A largely-unreported political vacuum) and: Why all the media bigotry against those diverse groups outside the beltway, if the media loves diversity so-much? (Answer: Blatant bias.)
JMR
Sarc, thanks for the addition
April 17, 2007 - 11:24 ET by JABSarc, thanks for the additional links to ensure the desired unification I was looking for on my link. And yea, everything is political these days, I got your point though.
"To bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
Morning JAB,I just got done s
April 17, 2007 - 11:32 ET by bigtimerMorning JAB,
I just got done supporting them, always have anyway, but a great link for those who would like more info or to make donations and join.
Thanks.
bt, I used to be a member but
April 17, 2007 - 11:36 ET by JABbt, I used to be a member but let my membership expire several years ago, so I thought now would be a good time to renew.
sarc, also posted two interesting links (already saved links to fav's) below that I am in the process of checking out. I see Rep. Ron Paul endorses one of them.
"To bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
Yeah JAB, that is easy to do,
April 17, 2007 - 11:40 ET by bigtimerYeah JAB, that is easy to do, it is relatively cheap for the cost of keeping our most precious freedom...the right to keep and bear arms.