John at Power Line has an excellent post documenting just how a left-wing reporter can use neutral-sounding language to make a casual observer doubt the credibility of a leading global warming skeptic:
Sometimes media bias is blatant and grotesque; it can extend to flat misrepresentations, use of fake documents, etc. Much more often, it is relatively subtle, as reporters push their version of a story in small ways, day after day. Here is a textbook example, via Power Line News.
Yesterday, in an interview with the Associated Press, one of the world's leading weather experts, Dr. William Gray, blasted Al Gore for perpetrating global warming hysteria. Since Dr. Gray is generally recognized as the world's leading expert in the science of forecasting hurricanes, this is news. But let's examine how the AP handled it in the article that resulted from their interview. The AP begins in a straightforward manner:
A top hurricane forecaster called Al Gore "a gross alarmist" Friday for making an Oscar-winning documentary about global warming."He's one of these guys that preaches the end of the world type of things. I think he's doing a great disservice and he doesn't know what he's talking about," Dr. William Gray said in an interview with The Associated Press at the National Hurricane Conference in New Orleans, where he delivered the closing speech.
But watch where the story goes from there. First the subtle demeaning of the distinguished Dr. Gray:
Gray, an emeritus professor at the atmospheric science department at Colorado State University, has long railed against the theory that heat-trapping gases generated by human activity are causing the world to warm.Gray is implicitly depicted as a crank; he "rails." Note that the hysterical and ill-informed Gore never "rails." Further, Gray "has long railed," which suggests that, rather than being a consistent critic of an unproven theory, he is a tiresome eccentric whose views have been heard and discounted. More on this later. The AP continues:
Gray's statements came the same day the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change approved a report that concludes the world will face dire consequences to food and water supplies, along with increased flooding and other dramatic weather events, unless nations adapt to climate change.As we have noted elsewhere, the U.N.'s IPCC is a political body, not a scientific one, and its findings have been subject to withering criticism. But the AP implies that the U.N's report represents a scientific consensus.
Read the rest.
—Matthew Sheffield is the creator of NewsBusters and its Executive Editor.
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AP seems to question the hurricane science also
April 7, 2007 - 13:19 ET by Gary HallActually, it's surprising to hear that Gray even got quoted by the AP And of course, they would make him out to be the bad guy. Great spot Matthew.
Did you notice this presentation, in the AP piece:
Even buried in the IPCC report is the view that there is no evidence suggesting that global warming has made a much of an impact in the frequency or intensity of hurricanes. In this moment in time, the science is rather clear.
This presentation of, "rather than Global Warming.. is baiting.
From Dr. Gray and Dr. Klotzbach's last hurricane prediction report - oh, that was this week? Wonder if the AP will headline this?
As it turned out, warmer weather = fewer storms, fewer hurricanes and fewer intense hurricanes. Look forward to seeing those numbers on the nightly news, on GMA, on the front page of any national newspaper.
Thank you Gary, for not menti
April 7, 2007 - 13:33 ET by BlondeThank you Gary, for not mentioning Hurricane Katrina.
We know how much GMA, and the rest of the MsM loves the U.N. (Climate Experts).
Sheesh!
I'm so very happy to hear about another record season in store for me, but I'd be happier to not hear about it for another month.
Blonde, Wasn't last year su
April 7, 2007 - 14:52 ET byBlonde, Wasn't last year supposed to be a record year also? You never know. One reason to not get too carried away with predictions for the next 50 years is the predictors can't tell me about next week. Well except here in San Diego where i can predict the weather 300 days a year. (sunny, except grey May and June gloom)
bot...I miss San Diego...live
April 7, 2007 - 15:06 ET by bigtimerbot...
I miss San Diego...lived there years and years ago now...loved every minute of it!
My Aunt and Uncle still live there...I love the ocean, miss swimming in it immensely!
Inside info: sssh don't tel
April 7, 2007 - 15:10 ET byInside info: sssh don't tell September October November best weather least tourists
LOL bot!Mums the word...lips
April 7, 2007 - 15:16 ET by bigtimerLOL bot!
Mums the word...lips are zipped!
Last Year
April 7, 2007 - 21:57 ET by pbthinkerIf you keep on predicting a bad year, sooner or later you'll be correct. A stopped clock is correct twice a day. Hey, weather people, for the most part, have a 50/50 chance of being right all the time. Either it rains or it doesn't. Either the suns out or it's cloudy. Either it's cold or it's hot. Perhaps that's why some of them joined the GW bandwagon, they like their odds there too. Either it's caused by humans, or it's not.
When thay being up Katrina. I
April 7, 2007 - 18:04 ET by danboWhen thay being up Katrina. I ask about Camile. I ask about the Labor Day 1935 Hurricane. When they bring up Katrina. I ask about The Cheniere Caminada storm of the 1893. Galveston 1900.
Chris Landsea talks about one that killed thousands but was never even classified a hurricane. His contention. Earlier hurricanes have been greatly under estimated. Especially by those who only remember the last 25 years.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
Global Warming demand!
April 7, 2007 - 18:14 ET by Clear thinkerI demand that our government stop GW now! If Rove can create a weather machine to wipeout New Orleans, surely our president can do something about how darned hot the sun is getting.
Here's an idea.... during the hottest summer months I propose that all US residents that have air conditioning open their doors and windows for 2 hours each day. Since we are getting blamed for the heating, maybe we could help with cooling it down a bit.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Great post, Gary! It furthe
April 7, 2007 - 14:05 ET by GalvanicGreat post, Gary! It further illustrates how the GW-crazy MSM disregards contradictory, "inconvenient" evidence.
The MSM echoes the mantra of the GWers that "99% of the world's scientists agree," and that consensus overrides the voices of dissent. I've yet to see any MSM vehicle scrutinize the composition of the IPCC, or the fact that politicos and not the scientists script the summary (Probably the only part of each report the MSM reads). The MSM has also under-reported the fact that the estimates found in the latest report are considerably less than the earlier report, and I've never seen the MSM report that the infamous "Hockey Stick" graphic that Gore waves around, was discredited and abandoned by the IPCC before his film was even released.
We must continue to promote the voices of experts like Gray, Lindzen, Lomborg, and others, particularly now since it appears that our elected representatives are caving into the MSM-driven polls regarding GW.
Gore and Congress
April 7, 2007 - 14:29 ET by pbthinkerDoes anyone remember that, after Gore got a packed House, when he was before Congress, all but 2 Democrats left when Lomborg spoke? I guess you don't need to hear other theories when your mind is made up.
Yep. And I mentioned it on
April 7, 2007 - 16:23 ET by GalvanicYep. And I mentioned it on another post. I guess the fact that Lomborg has never won an Oscar, makes his testimony worthless to the Dems, who had earlier that day declared Gore a prophet. How does a mere professor contend with the gospel of a prophet?
Also remember that Gore violated Committee rules by not submitting a copy of his testimony at least 48 hours in advance (thus avoiding close scrutiny for counter-questioning by the Reps), and that he was allowed to testify without being placed under oath.
Remember. When asked if he wo
April 7, 2007 - 17:49 ET by danboRemember. When asked if he would pledge to live a carbon neutral life. Gore refused.
Al Gore. The other oil man.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
Gore, an ultimately failed
April 7, 2007 - 13:21 ET by Jack BauerGore, an ultimately failed politician who also failed science at school, has long railed for the theory that heat-trapping gases generated by human activity are causing the world to warm.
Searching ... searching ...Th
April 7, 2007 - 13:54 ET by dahliatraversSearching ... searching ...
That's funny, couldn't find your first statement anywhere in the press, Jack. Could it be that reporting is as much the slant as it is the facts?
First I do not expect to se
April 7, 2007 - 14:47 ET by JDWFirst I do not expect to see a response from you.
Bauer is correct, wherever this clown attended college his hard work and acute understanding yielded him a D and a C in two science courses (undergraduate). In graduate school he earned five F's in eight classes. I fail to see the humor.
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
If you are going to whine about spelling... get a life
Perhaps it was===
April 7, 2007 - 14:58 ET by misterbillPerhaps it was===too warm in the classroom?????
What a twit--I believe Algore's pic should be beside egomaniac in the dictionary.
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
is that truly al bores record
April 7, 2007 - 15:03 ET byis that truly al bores record? and they call George Bush stupid for graduating from Yale?
It's interesting not only h
April 7, 2007 - 13:30 ET by JDWIt's interesting not only how his report but non-human activity on Mars and today's cold temperatures conflict with gore warming.
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
If you are going to whine about spelling... get a life
Bias 101
April 7, 2007 - 13:58 ET by buckhiloAs a former AP reporter, back when being accurate was of supreme importance and the reporter's personal opinions didn't matter, I am appalled at the practices of the news service today. Without independent confirmation of the facts, you cannot believe a word that an AP reporter writes today.
There ain't no cure for stupid. --Ron White
Of all the Kool-aid you conse
April 7, 2007 - 16:29 ET by blingbling65Of all the Kool-aid you conservatives drink your take on this issue is by far the most poisonous. Virtually the whole world has conceded that global warming is real and is threatening to hurt mankind but you pinheads still cling to the words of a few "scientists" who disagree. If 999 out of thousand doctors said you have cancer, you'd actually believe the one guy that said you didn't.
Well, whatever, we all can be grateful though that non of you make policy decisions besides I guess there's really no issue left for you nuts to bitch about.
The war in Iraq was based on total lies, (meaning everything said on this blog was a total lie)
Plame was vindicated in a court of law as a true patriot, a valuable asset who was actually trying to keep America safe and was ousted for political gain. (again that means everything said on this blog was a total lie)
The President through is incompetence and arrogance has distorted any sense of security America had.
So if you guys want to cling to the only BS issue you have, "Global warming a myth" then go ahead. It's just amazes me that even though every so called conservative in politics and the media has all been exposed as liars, you still continue to believe.
Well, have another round on me, I hear the blue Kool-aid is the best.
Must be some great drugs yo
April 7, 2007 - 16:36 ET by mytwocentsMust be some great drugs you are on there Bling. What a total airhead you are!
Oh Look!Blings back!Goody...
April 7, 2007 - 16:39 ET by bigtimerOh Look!
Blings back!
Goody... another troll out trolloping!
Time to play....
Take 'er away bling baby....carry on...and on...and on....
Well then bb what would you h
April 7, 2007 - 16:45 ET byWell then bb what would you have us do to change the sun?
bling-a-ding - - are you comp
April 7, 2007 - 16:47 ET by Gat New Yorkbling-a-ding - - are you completely out of your mind or is it the mushrooms? You must have cut-and-paste the Politics for Dummies that appears on Daily Kos. This is not even credible enough to respond to. You might want to consider starting with your Public Library and start reading.
popular science?
April 7, 2007 - 16:56 ET by RODVALIf 999 doctors were all hugely biased by money (or other things) to diagnose cancer and one was not, guess who I would believe?
And when did "science" become a vote of popularity?
I guess Einstein, Newton, and Pasture were held to a popular vote. If they lost 49-51 then they were wrong.
Are you disingenious? or dishonest, yourself?
"Let him who seeth them not, deride me for saying these things, and I will pity him, while he derides me."
Augustin, "Confessions"
This was another dizzy-driv
April 7, 2007 - 17:23 ET by JDWThis was another dizzy-drive-by-poster.
No other disease comes close to the research funding which cancer receives. Oncology departments today are curing patients who not long ago died, and in a matter of less than a month.
Your point with respect to the 999 v. 1 was very good.
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
If you are going to whine about spelling... get a life
dingaling
April 7, 2007 - 17:00 ET by misterbillI do not question Global Warming. I question Algoric followers who maintain that man is the real cause of it. The so-called deniers are man and women of learning who specialize in the study of climatology.
There is not much sense in continuing since you have obviously bought the whole basket of fear from Algore's Stupidmarket, but I will say this: When I had cancer, I went to a oncologist not to a chiropractor. Many compliments to you and your mindset to listen to a fear-monger and not the experts.
I feel compelled from personal experience to repeat--I do agree there is Global Warming! Oooops, an acorn just struck me on the head--the sky is falling!!!
PS Don't you find it interesting that one group of people in the field say Polar bears are disappearing and another group, equally qualified, equally knowledgable, say they are not? That shoud raise the antenna of suspcion for you. or does it??
These are the same people who
April 7, 2007 - 17:12 ET by Gat New YorkThese are the same people who supposedly believe in evolution and Darwin’s natural selection. Did these people ever consider the fact that the Earth has gone through and will forever go through changes and with those changes certain species adapt and others do not? Or has all this happened in the last six years and it is Bush’s fault?
Been sniffing Kool Aide poede
April 7, 2007 - 18:10 ET by danboBeen sniffing Kool Aide powder again?
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
So you don't believe the la
April 7, 2007 - 18:16 ET by sarcasmoSo you don't believe the language is biased against this expert on weather? And how is this guy either political or a liar?? "Kool Aid" yourself.
JMR
Virtually the whole world has
April 7, 2007 - 19:07 ET by Scout FinchVirtually the whole world has conceded that global warming is real...
Wow, bling. That sure is some very scientific citing you have there. Virtually, huh? When you start out at the gate with a gross overexaggeration like that, virtually everything coming out of your mouth sounds like hyped-up nonsense.
If 999 out of thousand doctor
April 7, 2007 - 21:39 ET by taznarIf by 999 "doctors" you mean people with Ph.D.'s in everything from law to engineering to fine arts, to MD's with specialties in dermatology to neurology, I'd believe the one doctor with an MD and specialized training in oncology.
You've put your trust in the political scientists, journalists, meteorologists, paleobiologists, etc. and ignored the findings of actual climatologists. Just being a "scientist" doesn't mean you know more than the local barber about things outside your area of expertise.
"Of all the Kool-aid y
April 8, 2007 - 00:31 ET by ckc1227"Of all the Kool-aid you conservatives drink your take on this issue is by far the most poisonous. Virtually the whole world has conceded that global warming is real and is threatening to hurt mankind but you pinheads still cling to the words of a few "scientists" who disagree. If 999 out of thousand doctors said you have cancer, you'd actually believe the one guy that said you didn't."
Well, if those 999 said I had cancer because santa claus told them I did, then yes, I would believe the other guy. It's the same with global warming. I'm going to believe the folks who use science to make their case as opposed to those who engage in make-believe.
"The war in Iraq was based on total lies, (meaning everything said on this blog was a total lie)"
What lie was that? Please provide proof of one lie concerning the case for war. FYI, your BDS doesn't qualify as proof.
"Plame was vindicated in a court of law as a true patriot, a valuable asset who was actually trying to keep America safe and was ousted for political gain."
Really? In bizzaro world maybe.For someone who seems to have a problem with lies, you sure have no problem spreading your own. Not surprising though, you are a lib.
"The President through is incompetence and arrogance has distorted any sense of security America had."
Indeed. Things are so frightening, I'm shaking in my boots as I type these words.
How will we ever survive.
"So if you guys want to cling to the only BS issue you have, "Global warming a myth" then go ahead."
Global warming is real, and will happen sooner or later, as it always has, just like the rain, the snow, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, sunrises and sunsets. The difference is morons like you believe it's because of my suv, lol. The fact that your side has to fabricate and manipulate data to deliver the conclusion you want instead of letting the science tell you what the conclusion is speaks volumes about the validity of these claims. Jim Jones ain't got nothing on you global warming cultists.
"Well, have another round on me, I hear the blue Kool-aid is the best."
If anyone knows, it would be you. Speaking of Jim, luckily for you, he served the red kool-aid.
Great bust, Matthew.
April 7, 2007 - 18:04 ET by sarcasmoGreat bust, Matthew.
JMR
GW hoax
April 7, 2007 - 19:32 ET by gfrrmanFunny how last year Dr. William Gray was the toast of the MSM when he predicted a large number of devastating hurricanes would hit the US. Typical MSM. When he doesn't toe the MSM agenda he's considered a heretic.
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
But not when his predictions
April 7, 2007 - 19:51 ET byBut not when his predictions were off
Another day, another AGW article...
April 7, 2007 - 20:26 ET by cunservatyveToday's count from AP and Reuters is about 5 or 6 AGW articles. I usually find about 3 or 4 a day, and I'm saving them all to show to my children someday, when this is all proven to be the utter garbage that it is.
All the articles take the position that AGW is fact...not theory. Any articles that mention critics treat the critics like ignoramuses. We've got a long fight ahead on this issue, my friends. The media and many others (including many liberal politicians) have their reputations resting squarely upon it, so they'll make it true even if it isn't. How? In the news, of course. However, as my butt is currently freezing right now on the Gulf Coast, they will have a hard time superseding God and reality.
Cunservatyve military medical guy
If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote!
if conservatives were really
April 8, 2007 - 17:37 ET byif conservatives were really confident about their science, then why did the administration prevent the public from knowing the facts of all scientists?
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
mt lyin'There ya go again...b
April 8, 2007 - 17:44 ET by bigtimermt lyin'
There ya go again...blah blah blah...go plant a tree somewhere.
Surely you don't mean to say
April 8, 2007 - 17:46 ET bySurely you don't mean to say that the admin controlls ABC NBC CBS?
He'll look through his loony
April 8, 2007 - 17:49 ET by bigtimerHe'll look through his loony leftist talking points and get back with some loony response, you can count on it.
I always thought Montana L. w
April 8, 2007 - 17:52 ET by kathleenirishI always thought Montana L. was a girl. Either way, I'm right!
" 'Fred's Slacks' is a winner!!"
Catch 22 alert...
April 8, 2007 - 17:51 ET by sarcasmoIf it were truly so, then how could ML have ever learned of what he alleges? (I think I'm starting to miss the OLD ML as in MassLiberal - he'd at least link to his lame blog when he was trying to assert something!)
JMR
sarc...oh the memories you ju
April 8, 2007 - 18:00 ET by bigtimersarc...oh the memories you just brought back...as I'm snickering to myself.
I still remember his final crack-up!
Correct you are about his links though!
My apologies. (But remember
April 8, 2007 - 18:13 ET by sarcasmoMy apologies. (But remember when I actually made it into ML's sigfile over the shocking news of Abramhoff buying Democrats as well as Republicans? And then, every time he'd post I'd counter with that WaPo follow-the-money piechart of bipartisan corruption & relentless jokes about the "right wing" Washington Post supposedly conspiring against his Democrats?? Who knows? I may have caused that final crackup! Heh heh heh...)
JMR
wouldn't the facts of all sci
April 8, 2007 - 17:57 ET bywouldn't the facts of all scientists be 40% have brown hair 30% have black hair 20% are blond and 10% bald?
Are you talking about IPCC? A
April 8, 2007 - 20:15 ET by danboAre you talking about IPCC? And the UN? They were sued when one scientists demanded his name be taken off the list as it implied he agreed. And they wouldn't.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
montana
April 8, 2007 - 21:55 ET by misterbillYou big damned blabbermouth. I was at the same meeting. We were asked by the President not to tell the rest of the country about the GW thing. It is the nefarious plan of the administration that we should all be unprepared for the sudden rise in the oceans and the sweltering heat. We also know that Crawford TX will be prime beach front property in just a short, oh say 50,000 years unless we act quickly. What other big secrets are being kept from us? (I wasn't at the next 2 meetings.)
PS How did you like the polar bear canapes??
Hey Monty - please identify s
April 8, 2007 - 22:03 ET by Gat New YorkHey Monty - please identify specific instances where the Administration prevented the public from knowing that facts.
Gat - You probably have alrea
April 8, 2007 - 22:10 ET by Free StinkerGat - You probably have already guessed, but you'll have a long wait for Montana to cite a specific anything . . .
Yep...lyin' is good about tha
April 8, 2007 - 22:18 ET by bigtimerYep...
lyin' is good about that....always has been.
It pretty common knowledge th
April 8, 2007 - 20:51 ET byIt pretty common knowledge that the white house has been supressing the facts on global warming. do some reading...not just fox news!
Wow! Another earth shattering
April 8, 2007 - 20:56 ET by bigtimerWow!
Another earth shattering post from ol' lyin'...we were all on the edges of our seats just a waitin' with anticipation for your words of wisdom mt.
you while whine about every l
April 8, 2007 - 21:17 ET byyou while whine about every link and facts are left wing bias according the folks that only get their spin from fox or rush.
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Here is something that will stop global warming! lol
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070407/AUTO01/704070338/1148
Um, are you drunk, Monty?
April 8, 2007 - 21:21 ET by RJUm, are you drunk, Monty?
"Did we think Kyoto would [reduce global warming] when we signed it? . . . Hell no!" -Al Gore
RJ, no matter what you think
April 8, 2007 - 21:45 ET by mandrakeRJ, no matter what you think about Monty's opinions. You have to admit the photo in the link he provided is hilarious on many levels. I nominate for the next caption fest. For example...what exactly is Dick Cheney looking at?
My first thought WAS humorous
April 8, 2007 - 21:58 ET by RJTruthfully, my thoughts WERE cynically humorous:
First thought: "What fool left that cord there, where anyone not familiar with the car would assume the plug has been positioned next to the proper recepticle?"
Second thought: "Jeez, some Democrat has just attempted to assassinate the President!"
Mine was something like..Chen
April 8, 2007 - 22:06 ET by bigtimerMine was something like..
Cheney to the Prez...man we would be embarrased to call that any kind of a gas hose in Montana...ooops...Wyoming! (as he is snickering and laughing out loud!)
One size would not fit all in this case!
Winston Churchill once replie
April 8, 2007 - 21:30 ET byWinston Churchill once replied to a matriarch of the south who told him he was drunk.
"Yes, I am drunk, but you and this site are ugly. Tomorrow I shall be sober!"
But I wouldnt dare drink so I can match wits with folks as eloquent as you. Lol!
{replying back to insults on this site has a history of getting libs banned ...then you will all brag about how you got him/her banned and we wonder why only right wingers are allowed to stay?}{
It's gibberish, Monty
April 8, 2007 - 21:37 ET by RJMonty, go back and read your post that caused me to ask if you're drunk. It is gibberish.
you did not quote the joke correctly---
April 8, 2007 - 21:59 ET by misterbillyou did not quote the joke correctly--- but, what the heck--you admitted you were drunk!
{Replying back to liberal idiots on this site has done nothing to change the idiots' minds!}
lyons tag line.
April 8, 2007 - 22:06 ET by Timothy HI think your tag line is a hilarious irony coming from a total lefty. Isn't it your party pushing to bring back the Fairness Doctrine in order to try and shut up Rush, Hannity and the likes, and in order to try and bring back the good ol' days of liberal network reporters and anchors going unquestioned witout those pesky radio guys pointing out the lies to the average person, who would otherwise have nowhere to turn?
What a joke.
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
Hey Monty - I guess you find
April 8, 2007 - 22:09 ET by Gat New YorkHey Monty - I guess you find alternative energy use laughable - is that it? What is laughable is the fact that your guys Clinton/Gore did absolutely nothing for 8 years in regard to supporting the accelerated development of alternative energies.
Are you a liar Montana?
April 8, 2007 - 21:10 ET by RJWell, you've proven that you've mastered the childish generality, Monty.
Now, the next step is to provide some links and commentary in order to prove that you're not just making stuff up.
"Did we think Kyoto would [reduce global warming] when we signed it? . . . Hell no!" -Al Gore
Hey Monty - If it is common
April 8, 2007 - 22:06 ET by Gat New YorkHey Monty - If it is common knowledge then please provide a shred of tangible evidence.
You are factually incorrect.
April 8, 2007 - 22:19 ET by NL207You are factually incorrect. This from the Washington Times. Dr. James E. Hansen has not exactly been suppressed, now has he.
But Dr. Richard Lindzen has this to say: "Global-warming alarmists intimidate dissenting scientists into silence." It is echoed by Dr. William Gray. And it seems that Jay Rockefeller and Olympia Snowe had this to say. Now exactly which side in the debate is being suppressed by political thugs, Lyons?
You are either misinformed or just a damned liar.
Why are new conservatives so
April 9, 2007 - 21:26 ET byWhy are new conservatives so against science and the facts that the administration has squelched??
its like the church's crusade against anyone dares suggest that earth was not the center of the universe and we might actually revolve around the sun?? blasphemy!
but I get a kick out of how the live-in residents of this site love to go on and on with the same old rushisms ...do you have a life away from newsbusters??lol
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
You allege that Bush has sque
April 9, 2007 - 21:40 ET by NL207You allege that Bush has squelched pro-global warming scientists. So ... show me one pro-Global Warming scientist who has been prevented from speaking and show me that Bush directed this.
... Or be silent. Link or slink, ignoramus.
Why are new conservatives so
April 9, 2007 - 21:26 ET byWhy are new conservatives so against science and the facts that the administration has squelched??
its like the church's crusade against anyone dares suggest that earth was not the center of the universe and we might actually revolve around the sun?? blasphemy!
but I get a kick out of how the live-in residents of this site love to go on and on with the same old rushisms ...do you have a life away from newsbusters??lol
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Weighty, weighty notions
April 9, 2007 - 21:32 ET by nkviking75Why is it old liberals turn away scientific objections to their pet theories by declaring, "That's not science!"? The so-called scientific liberals have taken over the role of inquisitors, and anyone who challenges their orthodoxy is a heretic. It's true not only when discussing global warming, but also embryonic stem cells, evolution, "right-to-die" issues, etc. Libs don't want anyone thinking for themselves.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Montana: HatTip to NL207 fo
April 9, 2007 - 21:32 ET by Free StinkerMontana:
HatTip to NL207 for half of these items.
Montana, do you need help r
April 9, 2007 - 21:58 ET by Free StinkerMontana, do you need help reading these?
Oh, that's right. You're avoiding facts that demonstrate your ignorance.
Why are liberals so stupid?An
April 9, 2007 - 21:34 ET by BlondeWhy are liberals so stupid?
And against any possibility that the mob rule is wrong?
I get a kick out of how you little libtards just keep bashing your heads against the wall.....is that blasphemy?
Go back to DKos, little troll.
I wondered when the censor bu
April 9, 2007 - 21:43 ET byI wondered when the censor button of this site would go off just as they censored the scientists. Bush is in the pockets of the oil companies.
Was this what you decided to moderate. funny how this site loves to give it out but cant take it. You call liberals drunk to lunatic and then cut off them off when they dare debate you with reason. Its just like this article except in reverse. you will insult and attempt to destroy the credibility of anyone even being a messenger with the facts. shades of the fundamental inquisition!
'but I get a kick out of how the live-in residents of this site love to go on and on with the same old rushisms ...do you have a life away from newsbusters??l"
Sure, Monty, I asked if you were drunk b/c you posted gibberish
April 9, 2007 - 22:01 ET by RJSure, Monty, I asked (not "called") if you were drunk. You posted something that was unreadable gibberish. Go back and look, since it seems to still bother you. Frankly, I doubt you could read it, either.
As for your ability to "debate": you have yet to exhibit that particular talent.
Nobody here believes that Bus
April 9, 2007 - 22:05 ET by NL207Nobody here believes that Bush has silenced any of the global warming "scientists". I issued a challenge to you to make your point with some evidence. Demonstrate that Bush has done so.
You have ducked, choosing to chide Blonde for faling to respect the unrespectable. Just more rhetoric and asinine liberal platitudes. No reason. No critical thinking. No references to support your claim.
Therefore, in the absence of opposition, the point mine. You lose.
Consequently, the conservative thesis is carried. Bush did not silence any global warming scientists.
Nobody here believes that Bus
April 9, 2007 - 22:18 ET byNobody here believes that Bush has silenced any of the global warming "scientists".'
of course, the only folks that are allowed to leave their verbal barbs with impunity have showed the authors of this lunatic site that they are brainwashed~of course global warming is against the bush religion of gluttony!
I would love to give you hundreds of links but knowing the trollish way you all behave towards facts let alone liberals i am a little gun shy...especially of chicken hawks who think they can hunt
u like that metaphor?
its funny how the new conservatives have made debating a competition..fox does a great job of spinning lies with their chosen victims and then outshout them or just not let them speak..kinda like this site
Where are your links and proo
April 9, 2007 - 22:33 ET by NL207Where are your links and proofs?
I provided three references earlier in the thread that show, (a) Dr. James E. Hansen, a leading, some say THE leading, proponent of the theory of AGW has had over 1,000 contacts with the press in the last few years. This is hardly silence. (b) AGW skeptic scientists have been harassed, had grants yanked, etc, etc. I will provide one more link, that involves death threats directed to yet another skeptic scientist who dares to question the AGW house of cards.
You haven't provided one stick of proof to make your case.
And you have the unmitigated gall to drag your sorry ass in here and claim that Bush is silencing AGW proponents?
You lose.
I wondered when the censor bu
April 9, 2007 - 21:43 ET byI wondered when the censor button of this site would go off just as they censored the scientists. Bush is in the pockets of the oil companies.
Was this what you decided to moderate. funny how this site loves to give it out but cant take it. You call liberals drunk to lunatic and then cut off them off when they dare debate you with reason. Its just like this article except in reverse. you will insult and attempt to destroy the credibility of anyone, even being a messenger with the facts. shades of the fundamentalist inquisition!
'but I get a kick out of how the live-in residents of this site love to go on and on with the same old rushisms ...do you have a life away from newsbusters??l"
'that the mob rule is wrong?"
lady, have you ever said anything of significance on this sight. You only come on to insult liberals. You are about as funny as that snl reject that you claim as your party's savior with century old jokes.
no wonder this party is the butt of jokes.
"The Mob Rules" = g
April 9, 2007 - 21:55 ET by Roger the Shrubber"The Mob Rules" = great piece of work.
Montana Lyons = not so much.
Sure, I come here to insult liberals. You make my work easy.
And, who is that "snl reject" you refer to? Al Franken?
Global warming weather report
April 9, 2007 - 22:21 ET by nkviking75BTW, perhaps 2 or 3 inches of snow Tuesday here in Northern Iowa, the Cleveland Indians will be playing "home" games in Milwaukee to take advantage of their retractable roof after being snowed out 4 days in a row, and later this week perhaps 6" of snow for a Red Sox home game.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.