Time Magazine’s Joe Klein Declares President Bush ‘Unfit to Lead’

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In an article that could have been written by Michael Moore, Katrina vanden Heuvel, or any number of “diarists” at the uber-left wing website Daily Kos, Time magazine’s Joe Klein on Thursday declared President George W. Bush “clearly unfit to lead.”

Happy Easter to you too, Joe.

In a hit piece entitled “An Administration’s Epic Collapse,” Klein attacked the most powerful man in the world early and often (emphasis added throughout):

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The three big Bush stories of 2007--the decision to "surge" in Iraq, the scandalous treatment of wounded veterans at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys for tawdry political reasons--precisely illuminate the three qualities that make this Administration one of the worst in American history: arrogance (the surge), incompetence (Walter Reed) and cynicism (the U.S. Attorneys).

Hmmm. So, in November 2004, the American people, for the first time since 1936, reelected a president while giving his Party a greater majority in both chambers of Congress. And they bestowed this rare honor upon an arrogant, incompetent, cynical man?

If this is the case, maybe Klein ought to be spending his time writing about the stupidity of the American people for oftentimes voting for folks and issues that he doesn’t support rather than castigating the intelligence and integrity of those they entrust with power.

Regardless, that was just the beginning of the invective, for next, Klein echoed the insipid left-wing slander concerning the President’s relationship with his Dad:

Iraq comes first, as always. From the start, it has been obvious that personal motives have skewed the President's judgment about the war. Saddam tried to kill his dad; his dad didn't try hard enough to kill Saddam. There was payback to be had. But never was Bush's adolescent petulance more obvious than in his decision to ignore the Baker-Hamilton report and move in the exact opposite direction: adding troops and employing counterinsurgency tactics inappropriate to the situation on the ground. "There was no way he was going to accept [its findings] once the press began to portray the report as Daddy's friends coming to the rescue," a member of the Baker-Hamilton commission told me.

How disgraceful. What was the name of that Baker-Hamilton commission member, Joe? Is it too much to require media members that are disparaging the most powerful man in the world to cite the names of sources they’re quoting, and what Party they belong to?

Furthermore, isn’t this whole “Doing it Differently Than Daddy” meme getting old? Why is it that so many of these liberal opinion writers are so devoted to Freudian psychological tenets that they all seem capable of determining what makes others do what they do beyond motives that are substantially more obvious and apparent than stemming from some unresolved angst from their childhood?

Alas, Klein wasn’t done:

On April 3, the President again accused Democrats of being "more interested in fighting political battles in Washington than providing our troops what they need." Such demagoguery is particularly outrageous given the Administration's inability to provide our troops "what they need" at the nation's premier hospital for veterans. The mold and decrepitude at Walter Reed are likely to be only the beginning of the tragedy, the latest example of incompetence in this Administration. "This is yet another aspect of war planning that wasn't done properly," says Paul Rieckhoff of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. "The entire VA hospital system is unprepared for the casualties of Iraq, especially the psychiatric casualties. A lot of vets are saying, 'This is our Katrina moment.' And they're right: this Administration governs badly because it doesn't care very much about governing."

Uh, Joe, for how many years nay decades have there been problems at VA hospitals across the country? Is this a new concern facing our nation, or one that dates back several Administrations? With all the resources available to you at Time, mightn’t you have been able to research such questions, and come to the conclusion that this is not something that just surfaced after March 19, 2003?

Oh, that’s right: to folks in the media, there is no history prior to that date. As we have all witnessed the past four years, absolutely nothing that occurred prior to the invasion of Iraq is either important, or to be addressed, unless of course it furthers the legacy of President Clinton or the candidacy of his wife.

How convenient.

Mercifully, Klein was moving toward a typically disgraceful conclusion employing all the usual pejoratives that have sadly become quite commonplace in today’s bash Bush environment:

When Bush came to office--installed by the Supreme Court after receiving fewer votes than Al Gore--I speculated that the new President would have to govern in a bipartisan manner to be successful. He chose the opposite path, and his hyper-partisanship has proved to be a travesty of governance and a comprehensive failure. I've tried to be respectful of the man and the office, but the three defining sins of the Bush Administration--arrogance, incompetence, cynicism--are congenital: they're part of his personality. They're not likely to change. And it is increasingly difficult to imagine yet another two years of slow bleed with a leader so clearly unfit to lead.

No, Joe. What is much more apparent for many who still are respectful of the man and the office is how difficult the next two years are going to be with press members like yourself so clearly unfit to report.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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I think Klein and his ilk should get their way

Pres Bush should step down, and President Cheney can take the reins for a few months. Great idea Klein. I wonder, do these people always act like 1 move chess players?

BR

BR,

Checkers. These folks are too linear in their thinking for chess -- even the one-move variety.  :-)    ns

Either chess or checkers make

Either chess or checkers make you move in a single-option turned based environment that does to account for variable conditions.   Give me Squad Leader, Tactics II, or Kriegspiel anyday baby....

Makes for superior strategic thinkers rather than the accountants we get from checkers and chess.

Kriegspiel, BD?  I didn't kn

Kriegspiel, BD?  I didn't know anyone played this game anymore.  ;-)

Impotent Dick Cheney can't even keep his lies straight

Impotent Dick Cheney was busted immediately on this one - and by the Pentagon, yet.  In this administration the part of Spiro Agnew is played by Dick Cheney.

"Vice President Dick Cheney repeated his assertions of Al Qaeda links to Saddam Hussein's Iraq on Thursday as the Defense Department released a report citing more evidence that the prewar government did not cooperate with the terrorist group.

Cheney contended that Al Qaeda was operating in Iraq before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003 and that terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was leading the Iraqi branch of Al Qaeda. Others in Al Qaeda planned the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"He took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq, organized the Al Qaeda operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene and then, of course, led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June," Cheney told radio host Rush Limbaugh during an interview. "As I say, they were present before we invaded Iraq."

However, a declassified Pentagon report released Thursday said that interrogations of the deposed Iraqi leader and two of his former aides as well as seized Iraqi documents confirmed that the terrorist organization and the Hussein government were not working together before the invasion."Ronald Reagan would be a Democrat today - he'd be humiliated and mortified at the perversion that the Republicans have become.

Sorry BA

You didn't even read what you posted. Good grief. Let me point it out for you. Remember, YOU posted it.

""He took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq, organized the Al Qaeda operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene and then, of course, led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June," Cheney told radio host Rush Limbaugh during an interview. "As I say, they were present before we invaded Iraq."

Now let's examine some more...

"confirmed that the terrorist organization and the Hussein government were not working together before the invasion."

Read that last bit one more time BILL! Now read the last line of the previous paragraph. He said that Zarqarwi was in Iraq before we invaded and the report DOES NOT MENTION THAT FACT! You just read into it what you wanted to see. Damn you leftists have a real comprehension problem....I guess it's that damned "nuance"!!!
Btw, I listened to this exchange live and also you can go to Rushs' website and read the transcript. NO WHERE in the interview did he even MENTION Saddam Hussein. NONE!!!

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

Stop!! You're too hilarious!!

So it's not a lie, it's just 'nuance!!'  ROFLMAO@you!!! 

Ronald Reagan would be a Democrat today - he'd be humiliated and mortified at the perversion that the Republicans have become.

C-O-M-P-R-E-H-E-N-S-I-O-N

C-O-M-P-R-E-H-E-N-S-I-O-N obviously is not one of any of your characteristics. what YOU tried to pass of was the LIE. Read the freakin transcript. You won't because you lack the courage to see the facts. Sorry kid, your loss. You'll grow up one day somewhere down the road.

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

So, after the Pentagon repo

So, after the Pentagon report purportedly disagrees with what the VeePee is saying, I hear on the radio that what it does say is that Zarqawi was in Iraq before the invasion, operating a free lance terror group that had relations with AQ, but did not join/form AQ in Iraq 'til after we got there. As the host said, "Oh, sorry, I called you a Crip and you were only a Blood".

Heard it on the radio...so, don't know where to find a cite.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

No

No, what the VP SAID that BillA was referring to from the Rush show was that Zaqawri was in Afghanistan before we invaded and left to Iraq when we invaded. Therefore, Zaqawri was in Iraq before we got there. THAT'S what the VP said on Rush Friday. It's even transcripted for all to read. BillA just read into what he heard and wanted to hear, NOT what was actually said. I just reread the transcript and he NEVER even mentioned Saddams' name..NEVER!!! So the LIAR is BillA.

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

Democrats Today

The left wing (Democrats) are the haters of our country, President, constitution, and all things good about America.

Saying that Reagan could be a member of such a sick group could only be made by one of these irrational beasts. Thank God we still have a strong, honest, bright, steady President. . .

Who reads TIME? I've been hoping for years that someone would poll those who pay for the rag as well as NEWSWEAK; my assumption is that 50% is for office waiting rooms and never get read and the other half (for 'RATs who don't understand numbers) are sitting unread in MSM mailboxes. The only certainty is that noone who is patriotic and loves his country would subscribe. If I see anyone reading one of these rags, I conclude they support our enemies in the War on Global Terrorism!

After review of this we must

After review of this we must conclude thst Klein has shown no bias--carry on

As for arrogant would that not better describe the MSM?

"When Bush came to offic

"When Bush came to office--installed by the Supreme Court after receiving fewer votes than Al Gore--"

They just can't get over it.  I need to mail him a BDS button.

You should have kept going,

You should have kept going, Indy....the rest is just as good, since Mr. Klein
"speculated that the new President would have to govern in a bipartisan manner to be successful..."

Funny, but I don't recall Mr. Klein, or anyone else for that matter, calling for President Clinton to govern in a bipartisan manner  when he only scored 43% of the vote. Anyone remember gays in the military and the largest tax increase in US history?

Sorry, Joe, I forgot that "bipartisan" requirement only applies to Republicans.

President Bush gave in to Democrats more often than he should have...Ted Kennedy's education bill, the minimum wage hike, the Medicare Prescription plan.....

But that doesn't matter to Klein. He's on a tear, and don't try to stop him or confuse him with facts.

I didn't think I needed to ke

I didn't think I needed to keep going. What I said pretty much sums up the left, imho. Whenever I try and even debate a lefty all their arguments always break down to what really ticks them off the most.  The 2000 election. That is the end all and be all of every rant, rave and made up argument since. It's like the '04 election or the electoral college didn't even exist.

You're right...it does alwa

You're right...it does always end up there. Like a fishwife, who, every time she gets mad at her husband, can't help but bring up the fact that he said he thought her sister was hot....10 years ago, and she's STILL mad about it.

Lol.

Lol.

Joe Klein is part of that MSN

Joe Klein is part of that MSNBC/Newsweek crowd that love to sit around and make up stuff rather than objectively report on anything.

  • Klein clearly wants us to lose the Iraq War by categorizing an effort to win as “arrogant.”
  • Klein calls Bush’s right to fire attorneys for tawdry political reasons which turns out to be incompetence and failure to follow orders.
  • Klein claims that Bush went to war with Iraq because of the attempted assassination on his father ignores all the events at the time and ignores the policy of the Clinton administration.
  • Klein categorizes Bush’s decision not to follow the suggestion of the Baker-Hamilton study group to meet with Iran and Syria as adolescent petulance ignores historical facts, such as the fact that they are both terror states and the fact that the suggestion was reminiscent of the call by people like Klein to negotiate with Hitler which did not seem to work out too well.
  • Finally someone should remind Klein that numerous groups analyzed the Florida results after the fact and all came to the same conclusion which is under any scenario – and without the Supreme Court – Bush did beat Gore there. But why should a little thing like facts get in the way of people like Klein.

Klein is nothing more than a low-rent tool of the Democrats. He should be ashamed at how ethically low he has stooped as a journalist.

A lot of vets are saying, 'Th

A lot of vets are saying, 'This is our Katrina moment.' And they're right: this Administration governs badly because it doesn't care very much about governing."
What crap. It's just like the situation at the VA. The Bush administration did not build the leeves in New Orleans, and they surely did not create the red tape that must be a nightmare to deal with at the VA.
The great thing about these statements is that they don't require much thinking-Katrina, the U.S. attourneys, Iraq, global warming-just keep repeating them over and over and over...

Nortonalec

Even less thinking from Klein

Even less thinking from Klein:

[Once again Karl Rove's operation has corrupted a policy area--like national security--that should be off-limits to political operators.]

LOL - Another blind whopper flip-flop from a liberal blowhard who supports all democrats playing policy masters in areas where they have no authority.

[ It is true that U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President, but they are political appointees of a special sort. They are partisans, obviously,....]

Klein voted for politcal operatives (Ronnie Earle) before he voted against them. 

Most interesting was his admission that the democrats have been a complete disaster:

[ The first three months of the new Democratic Congress have been neither terrible nor transcendent.] In other words, it has been terrible, but partisanship won't allow him to say it. He can't site a single thing in favor he likes from the libbocrat leaders Reid the faggish and Pelosi the bug eyeyd loon.

[A Pew poll had it about right:] He knows the Pew poll is wrong, but he even skews it for a lib upper.

[ a substantial majority of the public remains happy the Democrats won in 2006] a substantial majority of the public never voted for the democrats in 2006. The democrats barely slid by - a few thousand votes in the states that made the difference. It was the slimmest of slinking by, and still is - the senate hangs by the thread of Liebermann and the vegetating dem with the stroke the libs and msm are freaking out over but won't talk about.

A substantial majority of the public NEVER VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS in 2006, so they certainly cannot still be happy the demcorats barely eeked out. YOU JOE KLEIN ARE A POOR LIAR.

[, but neither Nancy Pelosi nor Harry Reid has dominated the public consciousness ]

 Yes,they have, for their incompetence, like Nancy's recent flubbed up foreign policy usurpation,and the insane usurping of Presidential powers the Pelosi pork bribery bill elicited. And their thievery - like Harry Reid's false paper trail land deal. The truth is, it's a democratic disaster, with Murtha and Alcee stuffed in a closet.

Klein then goes on to say of course:  Pelosi and Reid are nothing because it's all Bush's fault .

 What a moronic liar.

 That's what libs do best, coddle themselves, and talk out loud trying to convince someone it has nothing to do with how ****ed up they are, and that now, not later, the epic collapse of their opponents is at hand.

LOL - FU libs.

the vegetating dem with the

the vegetating dem with the stroke

At RedState, in the last couple of days, someone wrote a post about Senator Johnson. Nobody but the demo leadership and his family sees him. RedState noted that not a single journalist is pursuing this story. We don't know if he is capable of actually doing anything.

It is reported that he is providing his input to legislation through staffers, and that somehow, through some committee rules, he can even vote by proxy on some parts of legislation (maybe amendments in committee).

Despite the media's incuriousity about the ability of a Senator to actually do his job, the same media had a conniption fit a few months ago because Laura Bush didn't announce that she had a small growth removed from her knee.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

John in CA

John you just know it that if this was a Republican, the MSM would be all over this. They would be demanding that since he can't fully function as a member of the Senate, he should resign(they're favorite word)...that he's not doing the peoples' work, etc...

It is rather strange that after he first became ill, the MSM tried to make a big deal of the politics of it all, and now it's just dead silence(maybe a bad choice of words, but hey, I'm not PC at all....equal opportunity offender I am).

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

gffr, You bet, especially i

gffr, You bet, especially if they thought it would change the balance of the Senate to demo.

You know, in reality, even if he is in a coma, there is nothing to force him out of the Senate. However, since there is no confirmation of his status or ability, for all we know someone, who is not elected, could be acting in his stead. We would be none the wiser. I wouldn't put it past the demos to keep him alive, even if he was dead, just to keep the balance of the Senate in their favor.

If I was from The Mount Rushmore State, I'd be really curious about the status of one of my Senators.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

John in CA

Can't argue with that. I put NOTHING past Democrats when it comes to their "god given right" to be in power.   Lie, cheat, steal, murder(Vince Foster, Ron Brown), hey what's a coma patient do to stop them?(I do think he's been out of a coma for a while now, though). As someone says here on NB.....NEVER, NEVER trust a liberal(Democrat)!!!

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

Mr. Klein seems to be oblivio

Mr. Klein seems to be oblivious to the fact that if Gore had won his own home state of Tennessee, the Florida debacle would have been moot.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Good post--and with that said

Good post--and with that said, I never waste my time or money reading Klien.  He's an arrogant fool who has never been objective as far as I know.  Too predictable.  I wonder how sales are going for the magazine... Other than waiting rooms (which can buy something different) I don't know anyone who subscribes anymore.     

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

Aw, poor Joe is just tired

Aw, poor Joe is just tired of being upstaged by Rosie O. If this doesn't get him on O'Reilly next week, he'll write a column about his 9/11 conspiracy theories. And if that doesn't work, I guess he's left with either trying to prove he's the father of Anna Nicole's child, or be killed by an illegal alien.

Must be tough to hold down the left end of mainstream journalism these days...

And, why didn't Time magazine

And, why didn't Time magazine recommend even days driving with airconditioner on and windows open and odd days with home and office airconditioners on and windows open to use existing technology to fix mans now being replaced as we speak older technologies?

I thought the "surge" was more lets try a course change by trying what we have certainly not yet tried >> clearing and "holding."   ???

Maybe I will even meet one of the "life is good" brothers at our 20th class reunion this year.

"Sail fast, live slow."  And, Does Hillary have any hobbies?

Connection to evidence of pas

Connection to evidence of past human success on this issue >>  "Lead"  to "leadfree."   All modern Presidents are supposed to be unfit (not fit) for/to lead.

Bush/Cheney 2008

OK, Joe!  Just don't vote for him in 2008!  I won't!

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Unfit to report

"...installed by the Supreme Court after receiving fewer votes than Al Gore..."

Joe, Joe, Joe, receiving fewer popular votes is irrelevant.  Mr. Bush duly won the election by getting the most electoral votes.  The Court simply stopped Al Gore's ongoing attempt at election fraud, abetted by judges who were willing to bend election law like a pretzel.

Joe Klein, unfit to report.

Installed by the Supreme Cour

Installed by the Supreme Court ? ?

Wasn't that Election before last ?  Tha boy needs to update his time machine. ...the "Installation" was followed a 2nd "Mandate" with more votes than Clinton received, and a resounding Kerry takedown.  

At least when a Republican LOSES, he can still run again and get elected...(Nixon).   Democrats seem to Die a political death after losing....as Americans realize they dodged a bullet.  

At Times like these, it becomes more than just a Moral Obligation to express ones opinion, it becomes a Pleasure.

nk -- I was hoping someone

nk -- I was hoping someone would mention The Inconvenient Fact that citizens don't actually vote directly for a President -- they vote for delegates to the Electoral College, who then in fact, cast their mandated state electoral college votes for the President.

Now Mr. Klein may not like that fact, but that's just the way the framers wrote the US constitution.

And check my statement below... isn't the exterme raving lib***l Mr Klein just the living embodiment of my rather apt and concise obervation?

A lib***l is a deluded person who thinks that what he believes is true simply because he wants it to be true.
Therefore reality must be shifted left to fit his odd perceptions.

Well the fact is that Bush in

Well the fact is that Bush in 2004 had 3 million more votes than Kerry, But was a slight minority against Gore in 2000. But you have to figure that if it pained the democrats so much the 2004 contest would either have gone to Kerry or been a lot closer. Nixon lost the 1960 election by a little over 118,000 votes (.17%) even when the  Illinois votes which Kennedy received were found to be corrupted.

I am not really up on the electoral college but democrat legislatures in several states are attempting to toy with how their states give their electoral votes. I guess so they wont have to give their votes to the plurality winner in their states votes but to the plurality winner of the general election. It sounds unconstitutional to me.  

ahusser

ahusser,

Yes, we conservatives are certainly destined to consistently be bludgeoned with falsehoods surrounding what did and did not happen in the November 2000 elections. Yet, we never hear discussions by these same folks concerning what Joseph Kennedy did in West Virginia in order to ensure his son's success in that primary back in 1960. And, of course we'll never address what Mayor Daley did in Chicago that same year to give Illinois to JFK.

As you might imagine, these issues are quite verboten to a press always out to present the most negative view possible of Republicans and the most positive of Democrats.  ns 

Well here in the People's rep

Well here in the People's republic of Maryland where there is no electoral college for the Governor's race (probably no state has an electoral college for gubernatorial elections) Only 3 political jurisdictions, being the most populous, dictate the elections to the other 21 jurisdictions, that is why there have only been two republican governors in the last 60 years. The demise of the electoral college as we know it could have serious ramifications for small states.

ahusser -- Let's assume for the sake o

ahusser Let's assume for the sake of argument that the 2004 results in Ohio are reversed and Kerry WINS by 117,000 votes.

Despite the fact that Kerry still LOSES the popular vote by more than 3 million, he now wins the Electoral College vote 271 to 266.

And thus becomes the 44th President of the United States.

Does anyone think for one second changing the electoral college system would ever be mentioned by the MSM in regards to Kerry's "legitimacy?"

A lib***l is a deluded person who thinks that what he believes is true simply because he wants it to be true.
Therefore reality must be shifted left to fit his odd perceptions.

Like all the furor over the l

Like all the furor over the latest elections, obviously they are only rigged when the Repubs win.

When your whole worlds shifts 4 inches left you'll thank me     That 70s Show

Does anybody actually read Ti

Does anybody actually read Times Magazine?    It is so yesterday . . .

Everything in it is already a week old when you get it!

As for the has been Klein, who cares?

JDhawk...funny you should men

JDhawk...funny you should mention TIME magazine...just saw their latest issue on the rack while at the Store...something about "51 ways to survive Global warming" ? ? or sumthin like that....with a Penguin on ICE on the cover pic.

I doesn't read tha Mag....but  I'd reccommend a new cover...

51 REASONS Global warming is B.S. 

1. It's snowing in Texas in April.

Reasons 2 thru 51.  Al Gore, Al Gore, AL Gore, Al Gore, Al Gore, ......etc.

   

At Times like these, it becomes more than just a Moral Obligation to express ones opinion, it becomes a Pleasure.

reply to JayTee

Now that is genuinely funnee. Made me really guffaw!

Good for Joe.  Such rants wi

Good for Joe.  Such rants will keep him on the "A" appearance list for Imus and Chris Matthews.  Does he go on for free or are they stuck paying him Union Scale?

Joe Klein's Link

I wonder if Mr. Klein wanted a link, to this story, from the Daily Kos or Newsbusters.  With the gratuitous line: "Installed by the Supreme Court after receiving fewer votes than Al Gore"  he was sure to get both. 

There are a few things becoming apparent these days. One is there is a concerted effort, on the part of Democrats, and their media wing, to try and make this President irrevelent.  Second, they appear to want to question every decision and make an issue out of it, for the purpose of bringing a Democrat to power in 2008. 

It's difficult to see if they're being successful since we don't really know, for sure, what the results of the 2006 election mean.  If, as I believe, Republicans stayed home and independents decided they wanted to "throw the bums out and try the Democrats for a change", then the Democrats could be in serious trouble in 2008.  If there are enough independents out there who say, "Hey, we didn't give them a mandate to do this crap.",  then it will cost them some serious votes in 2008, including Presidential Votes.  If, as the Democrats believe, they do have a mandate, Republicans could lose it all in 2008.  Time will tell. 

time crunch for the dems

It is a time crunch for the dems. They know that if there were an election tomorrow, with their OWN respective approval rating being in a gutter far below Bush's numbers, that they would lose. It is a go-for-broke strategy, or better yet, simply a tactic. Strategies require a semblance of long-term planning, constituted of tactics and maneuvers. The dems and libs are simply throwing tactics at the scoreboard. As we conservatives stick to our long-standing traditions and values, their tactics will be surpassed by our inherent strategical advantage. Excepting for one thing... they have the school systems under their thumbs, K-12 and universities. THAT is where the future lies, and they have the indoctrination well underway.

Anyway, the dems will be pushing hard all the way until the ballots are counted for 2008. And stumbling all along the path. Case study: Pelosi. How she can screw up so much in so short a time is amazing. Murtha and Alcee Hastings appointments were bungled, her first 100 hours has failed to produce anything worthwhile even for a democrat, and now with the spinach and peanut subsidies, then having a slumber party with Syria... GOOD GOD !! Where is the leash for this woman!

Gee I forgot about alcee hast

Gee I forgot about alcee hastings, who being one of the first black federal judges was impeached for accepting bribes. Unfortunately acquitted, now a congressman. i am sure Pelosi didn't want to re-open that can of worms.

alcee hastings was her pick, though

But Alcee was her personal pick for the committee chair. And who advised her to do this? I would offer, if it could ever be true, that it was a neo-con with a swaying pocket watch, saying ever so slowly, "you are feeling very sleeeeepy... when you awake, you will want to appoint absolutely the worst idiots to chair positions on the congressional committees." But alas, this cannot be, although it is the only plausible explanation. Otherwise, the dems are irrevocable idiots of the first order.

reply to Pragmatic Man

but but but she really thinks she is President. Is this what Grandma wants? What about Shrillery? Sheesh, problems, problems, problems.

Pelosi spouts off

I was kind of shocked when Pelosi the bug eyed loon got the mic and camera on her, and yappered out recently something like:

 "Bush better get used to it, there was an election and now there's someone new in charge."

 Yeah, she thinks. But her first idiotic move with Murtha, she got owned. Now Israel slapped her down. The republicans slapped her with her porker vote purchasing.

 She's getting slapped around, I wonder if she'll adjust her dentures more often on camera. Jeepers, we have botox Kerry, pretty boy Edwards, facial surgery bug eyed Pelosi, flappy eared "bronzen god of worship" Barak Hussein Obama the former Muslim and current smoker. ( Chrissy Matthews asked him how the quitting was going the other day...and obamadamna coughed up that he was taking it slow and getting along...puffing less kinda...blah blah blah... )

 I predict the next big lib candidate will be a woman with breast enhancement surgery and several prior abortions, live in lovers, and exes, who experimented with lesbianism in her "wild days of youth" so is keen to understand the opression and societal rejection.

Klein is just another MSM mar

Klein is just another MSM marionette, whose strings are pulled by his editorial and Dem masters.  Would we have expected him to say anything else?

Forget Klein.  He's irrelevent.

Nice post, Noel.You know the

Nice post, Noel.

You know the "stolen" 2000 election is one of my favorite topics....hanging chads and all that.  Here in the heart of chadland.

What is it with these liberals?  They just keep picking away at the scab until it bleeds...again.  Idjits!

Florida 2000

Hey Blonde - Being in PB County, we never hear the end of it.  The Local Rag (Palm Beach Post) always finds a way to filter that into any political story, no matter how innocuous it may be. 

Meanwhile, Rob Wexler had his personal favorite installed as election supervisor to replace one who wouldn't play ball with them, and our elections haven't been the same since.  Now Rep. Wexler is starting to criticize his protege because of the problems.  Hell, we just had problems with municipal elections, which draw less than 10% of a Presidential Election.  Perhaps Wexler knows what he's doing since, if we can't get a municipal election right how in hell will we ever get the Presidential right.  THe Democrats best hope in PB County?  Ask Rob Wexler.

pb,I know what you mean about

pb,

I know what you mean about never hearing the end of it...So they ran Teresa Lapore out on a rail?

Poor you with Rob Wexler.  But remember, we had to have J.E.B. toss Miriam Oliphant here in Broward.  Oh, and my enlightened fellow voters here turned out Clay Shaw last November.

The 2000 election is just another in a long line of embarassments for us here in SoFla.  See Noel's post to curious, below.

If I keep hearing the leftist

If I keep hearing the leftist talking point rant anymore saying this administration will go down as the worst in history I'm going to have to go target practice...even though I don't need to just to relieve frustrations!

These leftists can cry, moan, whine, scream, spew their lying leftist tripe of wishing something so...even though it isn't...

Only in their dreams.

Foolish little leftist critters!

Joe Klein is just a figment in his own imagination...always has been, after all he authored a book using the pen name Anonymous.

"maybe Klein ought to be

"maybe Klein ought to be spending his time writing about the stupidity of the American people...."

Given that two thirds to three quarters of those who voted for Bush believed that Saddamn had a role in 9/11 (had given operational support to Al Queda) AND that Saddamn possessed WMDs that posed a threat to America, maybe Klein should write, not about the ignorance of so many Americans, but about how that ignorance was sytematically created and perpetuated as a fraud upon the American people.

And before you all jump up and write that others, including Clinton, also thought that Saddamn had WMDs, remember that none of these others believed that they constituted such a direct threat to the US as to justify going to war. Bush, Cheney and the neocons are all by themselves there. 

I supported Bush in 2000, but, because I think for myself and do my homework, I voted against him in 2004....and had the above falsehoods been exposed for what they were prior to the latter election, there's no way Bush is reelected.

And just as a final point of light in the darkness that is this blog, Bush WAS installed by an activist Supreme Court, one that ignored all semblence of respect for state's rights to pursue a partisan, and ultimately fraudulent, decision. What the consortium of news groups investigating the 2000 election in Florida found was twoful: one, had only those counties requested by Gore been recounted, Bush would've won; but two, had ALL the votes of all the counties in Florida been recounted, Gore would've won.

A deeply disillusioned Republican who thinks this president has been a disaster, both for my party and, far more importantly, for my country.

Absolutely, and Michael Moore

Absolutely, and Michael Moore indeed films documentaries.

------and pigs fly

------and pigs fly

Curious reads like he's flying a false flag.

Two thirds to three quarters of those who voted for George Bush believe Saddam had something to do with 9/11?   This reads like a canard of the type heard on leftist sites.  It contributes to the overall impression you give, which is that you're flying a false flag...."Progressive Republican" indeed. 

Cites, please, on your Bush voter figures. 

<Shaking head>  Please

<Shaking head> 

Please excuse me, I need to go throw up.

Obviously, for you, that's ea

Obviously, for you, that's easier than thinking.

To the contrary! I read your

To the contrary! I read your arrogant post, thought about it in detail and decided that instead of wasting my time responding to your obvious 100% accurate homework research that the sudden urge to purge seemed like the  best response. After all you made it very clear that I am nothing but a non-thinking, non-homework researching, un-informed idiot who voted for Bush....twice. Such civility indeed.

Gore got what he asked for

The 2000 recount proceeded with many twists and turns, some questionable and some outright scandalous. But we can all say that the legality of the election was so visible, that no credibility can be lent to arguments of impropriety. Gore sued, he lost. The Supreme Court, last I checked, was a duly appointed panel of jurists. The electoral college is our current method of Presidential election, and the poplular vote is simply a statistic.

Such are things with the disputed election. So, Bush was unarguably NOT INSTALLED. This makes "curious" a liar, and a turncoat Republican as well. "Curious", this is where you feel ashamed for calling yourself a Republican, in case you were too busy whining about Bush's "lies". Let's get something straight: Bush and congressional members alike used the same intel for making the decision to go to war. How Bush can be classified as the only culpable party is beyond comprehension.

Curious

Curious,

Well, Clinton might not have felt that Saddam's WMD represented enough of a threat to justify war, but they did represent enough to warrant several bombing missions of Iraq during his presidency, or have you forgotten that?

Furthermore, should we be really concerned with Clinton's threat assessments? After all, according to former bin Laden Unit Director Michael Scheuer, the Clinton administration passed up fifteen opportunities to take out bin Laden before 9/11. As such, why would anybody in their right mind give a rat's bum about what Bill Clinton did or didn't perceive as a threat to American security?

As for the 2000 SCOTUS being an activist court, how would you compare its activism to that of the 2000 Florida SC which not only ignored the election laws on the books at that time, but also made up its own to advance continued recounts not supported by existing legislation. I assume you also conveniently forgot this as well?

Finally, could you provide links to articles by media organizations which did their own recounts in 2001 finding that Gore would have won? As I recall, from ABC to the New York Times to the LA Times, there wasn't one major outlet that came to such a conclusion.

As such, since you believe this not to be the case, would you be so kind as to provide evidence with a link -- or is that asking too much of someone such as yourself who obviously perceives and understands things better than the likes of us NewsBuster bottom-feeders?   ns

Crickets chirping

I think our curious person (indicating more open mindedness of course) has driven by and left the scene of the crime.

Noel - I am not a psychologist--

Noel - I am not a psychologist--but in Curious' post, I detect a strong disappointment in the length and difficulties of our effort in the Iraq conflict. As in many disappointments and losses in life, people strike out in any direction, even at friends and family. If I am naive in giving Curious this benefit of the doubt, so be it. I do believe that we are doing the right thing. I do believe we are winning. I can only encourage Curious to listen to you and our other writers, editors and members of this site. We will prevail.

Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?

Sir Walter Scott

MB. I wish it were only the w

MB. I wish it were only the war, but that's but a part of a much more disturbing state of affairs I find in this administration. Understand that I come from a long, long line of Progressive, Western/Midwestern Republicanism that believes first and foremost in moral and political individualism, and especially individual accountability; limited govt; balanced budgets; a strong military and a restrained foreign policy that avoids entangling alliances and mettling in others affairs. This administration has given us a complete lack of personal accountabily; a larger and more invasive govt; a denigration of individual liberty; record budget deficits; a weaker military and a discredited foreign policy that has left our enemies stronger and our alliances weaker. 

I'm sorry, but I'm more than a little saddened, and very pissed off. I supported Bush in 2000, but not in 2004, and not the Republicans in 2006. The verdict is out on 2008.

And by the way, I didn't just drive by, dump and split. I came back and wrote a long reply to NS. Unfortunately, I timed out before I finished. In brief, I replied that most of his response to me was off the mark and meant to distract, not to inform. My basic points were, one, that the consortium of the NORC and the eight major media found in their analysis of the 2000 Florida election that Bush would've won most partial recounts (including the one Gore initial requested) and that Gore would've won the statewide recount of all the ballots ordered by the SCOTUS (before it ruled there wasn't enough time to undertake such a recount). Google it. I did to confirm my notes.

My second point was about widespread ignorance among the American, and especially the Republican, electorate in 2004 (not to say there isn't a crap load of ignorance on the left too), and why that was the case. I am particularly upset about this phenomena as I can see no way for a democracy to survive without an informed electorate. Elections can not serve as a check on govt if the people don't know the facts.

In any event, I went on at much greater length that I can't repeat now, some of which concerned the fact that I don't care squat about Clinton, but am getting tired of this Blame Bill BS that is run out to distract from the issues. Two wrongs don't make a right and all that stuff.

I also was civil, and called no one a bottom feeder. I would appreciate the  same. Answer me with reasons and facts, not distractions and factoids. 

Ok, I just did as you sugge

Ok, I just did as you suggested, and let's just say "Google isn't your friend." And it's not like I'm much of a fan of Bush (or Gore...) either.
JMR

Sarc

J,

Even the NY Times reported the findings: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/12VOTE.html?ex=1176091200&en=1cd6e7bba830d1b7&ei=5070. This is another red herring, and anyone -- especially someone claiming to have voted for Bush in 2000 -- that believes the SCOTUS unfairly determined the presidency that year is either being dishonest with himself, or with others.  ns

Someone around here in Brev

Someone around here in Brevard ginned up a bunch of "Sore-Loserman" stickers right after the election. At the time, I considered them a bit over the top, but now not so much... And another funny thing was that my top result came up PBS -- that shameless organ of the political far-right I'd defund along with the FCC.
JMR

Sarc

J,

This has been one of the more offensive canards espoused by the left and the media, that if the counting had continued, Gore would have won. No matter how hard they tried, no such thing was ever proven.

In fact, even these articles indicate that in order to arrive at a Gore victory, the counting rules in place would have needed to be altered. That's an extraordinary revelation coming from PBS and NYT, wouldn't you agree?

Yet, even with such a revelation, many in our nation -- even some folks claiming that they actually voted for Bush in 2000 -- still believe that if not for SCOTUS, Gore would have won Florida. Pretty extraordinary, wouldn't you agree?   ns

My theory is he's competing

My theory is he's competing with Fox News Watch for the "sarcasmo unintentionally-funny award" tonight. Since the Fox News media critics -- like most of the media -- ALL swallowed the "I snorted dear old Dad!" April Fools joke (see open thread) the humor-bar was obviously already pretty-high, but if curious takes our far-right-wing PBS/NYT bait, I think he wins.
JMR

Sarc

J,

Definitely. BTW: So that whole thing with Keith Richards was an April Fools Joke? How spectacular!!!  :-)    ns

Well, Keith said it was a j

Well, Keith said it was a joke, but it's not just an April Fool...IMNSHO the media reaction constitutes inadvertent proof that "Fox News Watch" needs to immediately hire a libertarian panelist who is NOT humor-impaired. Coke users, even rockstars who get very pure blow, DO NOT tend to want to "step on" the coke they plan to snort with ANYTHING nonpsychoactive -- it's drug-user duh-file 101. They also don't stretch their coke with sand when they go to the beach.
JMR