"There is a danger lurking in millions of kitchens," warned CNN anchor Kiran Chetry on the April 6 "American Morning."
That danger? Stoves that can tip over and injure you.
But instead of simply educating viewers and telling them about the 50-cent anti-tip bracket that can prevent stoves from tipping over, reporter Greg Hunter promoted more nanny-state nonsense.
"Manufacturers and the government recommend all stoves be bolted down, but it's not mandatory," said Hunter before quoting someone from the left-wing group Public Citizen.
Public Citizen's, Joan Claybrook called them "killer stoves," and attributed 26 deaths and "almost a hundred injuries" to falling stoves.
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Some channels will try anythi
April 6, 2007 - 15:49 ET by the_red_stateSome channels will try anything to get noticed...
Attack fo the Killer Stoves!!!!!
April 6, 2007 - 15:59 ET by bigtimerSurely you jest!
Killer stoves...
Nader and crew are running out of things to attack!
Hope he runs again on the perils of big bad killer stoves.
Lord help us all...personal responsibility is out of the question now isn't it?
Silly people....praying that more leftists will get in to have the govt. control our use of the killer stoves too now....sure there will be fines included after they have a carefully planned raid on your home it they suspect you do not have your killer stove installed properly....we have to do this to save the children after-all.
What will they think of next....killer sinks...washing machines...dryers...clothes lines...ironing boards (which are about extinct and should be put on the endangered species list immediately)...on and on it goes...
Most products when used prope
April 6, 2007 - 16:18 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveMost products when used properly according to their owner's manual do injure or kill people.
How many of these "victims" were following the directions? My bet...none of them were.
"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.
Copycat appliance crimes
April 6, 2007 - 22:43 ET by nkviking75Obviously, this is the work of copycat killers following the MO of killer TV's.
Actually, it is a good story.
April 6, 2007 - 16:05 ET by niner-four-whiskeyActually, it is a good story.
The strap-down of ranges and stoves is a building code item here. It makes a lot of sense. The bracket is included with every new one sold.
Maybe it is an immigration story in disguise as the delivery and installation people rarely know about it or follow the installation instructions, even when they are in spanish.
I'm still wondering how you t
April 6, 2007 - 16:33 ET by taznarI'm still wondering how you tip a stove over in the first place. Would falling or sitting on the stove door while its open even be sufficient?
I do agree they should be anchored in place though. But I'd be more worried about something like the above scenario (weight on the open door) tipping if far enough to spill something hot from the stove top.
Most of the severe injuries a
April 6, 2007 - 18:13 ET by niner-four-whiskeyMost of the severe injuries and a few fatals, have been children. They pull open the oven door and step onto like a step-stool to see what's on top.
I know I'm going to get a boo-hiss with a link to an ambulance chaser's website, but there's a picture that demonstrates all too well how a terrible accident can happen with a stove tipover.
http://www.tsslawyer...
The really sad, sad thing is that every stove made is shipped from the factory with the bracket on the back of it and the instructions to install it. It takes no more than 5 minutes to put it in and the cost is minimal.
The bracket just keeps the stove from tipping forward, the unit can still be slid in and out.
When we remodelled our kitchen, the old stove still had the bracket screwed into the back, just as it shipped from GE some ten-twelve years ago. I pointed out the new one to the installer, who ignored my instruction to install it, and the building inspector caught it, made him come back and do it over.
We don't have kids in the house, but anyone who does can imagine how easily this could lead to serious injury which is so easily prevented.
As the loving aunt of a two-y
April 6, 2007 - 18:46 ET by QueenMumAs the loving aunt of a two-year old climber, I understand your concern niner. But children who climb will climb on dressers, bookcases, T.V. stands and anything else available. How do you craft any sort of government regulation of every piece of furniture in the house? It's a matter of teaching a child that such behavior is unacceptable and supervising their play until they learn. The manufacturers have done enough by providing the safety bracket.
What I've noticed is that very young children are often given free reign to "explore" the home with much less parental restriction. I understand that the play pen is eschewed by today's young parents as being too confining. That would be fine if parents bothered to provide the proper supervision.
Like I said, the bracket is a
April 6, 2007 - 20:22 ET by niner-four-whiskeyLike I said, the bracket is already there on the stove. All you got to do is put it on. It's building code here, and it probably should be everywhere.
As far as free-roaming kids are concerned, yes, lots of people lack in the parenting department.
But as I child once myself, there are limits to parental supervision. I can think of any number of things I did that my parents never knew about, that could have easily resulted in injury or death.
I can tell you that the installer who put the stove in our house had clearly never once installed the safety bracket and I'd estimate that it is far more common that they are not installed.
So in practice, the safety bracket is largely ignored, a number get hurt and a few die needlessly every year. Perhaps it is time to initiate a design change so that the brackets are installed or the door will give way or the thing will not operate.
It's dumb to have to legislate such things, but if it were your kid, you'd be screaming for action too.
"but if it were your k
April 6, 2007 - 21:56 ET by Mean Gene Dr. Love"but if it were your kid, you'd be screaming for action too."
I know it is easy to say it now...but, if it were my kid, I would be so embarassed and feeling guilty for not properly teaching/supervising my child or not installing the bracket myself. The last thing I would do is draw attention to my shortcomings of a parent by screaming for legislative action.
"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.
I think it's a Kiran Chetry
April 6, 2007 - 17:28 ET by 01-20-09I think it's a Kiran Chetry story, for years she worked behind the Iron
Curtain (Fox News) and forbidden to do such a piece. One day her and a
few other trustees, and their guard, went for coffee and doughnuts, and
she bolted to CNN when the "don't walk" was on.
News Buster takes exception to her defection.
01...HaHaHaHa...and ha...weal
April 6, 2007 - 17:37 ET by bigtimer01...
HaHaHaHa...and ha...weally weally funnee.
Just cute as a button's ear by half.
BT - You're too kind to tha
April 6, 2007 - 17:48 ET by Free StinkerBT - You're too kind to that Troll! ;-)
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For now Free...Evenings young
April 6, 2007 - 17:55 ET by bigtimerFor now Free...
Evenings young yet!
Btw...with 01 I have not always been so nice, he makes it impossible....just in a good mood for now!
LOL!I think he went away to
April 6, 2007 - 18:01 ET by Free StinkerLOL!
I think he went away to refill on his talking points. ;-)
He always does Free.Thats the
April 6, 2007 - 18:14 ET by bigtimerHe always does Free.
Thats their job...thats what trolls do!
LOL!
Busy busy busy little bees....zzzzz....zzzzz....zzzz...
On FEAR, Fox, CNN, and Kiran Chetry
April 6, 2007 - 17:37 ET by UnsaneI can never understand the Leftists' overwhelming, intense, palpable (and extremely irrational) FEAR of one little news channel that might reach one million viewers out of a population of 300 million on a busy news day.
I thought the Leftists were the tolerant ones. Surely they can tolerate the mere presentation of many different points of view?
As for Kiran Chetry: contrary to your post, she was always a good reporter at Fox. She could come up with some great lines of questioning and did so in such a consistent manner that she always struck me as someone who really gave a damn about her chosen craft. When on Fox and Friends (the anchors of which never take themselves or he show seriously much to my approval and the the annoyance of many on NB), she came across as genuinely funny, rather than being as ditzy as possible. It bummed me out to hear that she was heading to CNN as a result of all of the above.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Bummed me out to Unsane...She
April 6, 2007 - 17:45 ET by bigtimerBummed me out to Unsane...
She was one of my favorites...she was damned good with information, questions and knew her territory she was speaking about.
Sorry to see her make such a bad choice in my opinion...money matters or not, she should of stayed where the going was good and she helped make it that way.
We are all replaceable after-all...or so they say! LOL!
Btw..leave it to a troll to divert the big Killer Stove debate to Fox News Channel!
Chetry
April 6, 2007 - 18:14 ET by 01-20-09Actually Chetry was fired, her and Gretchen Carlson got along like Rosie and Trump.
01...Do you have a link to Ch
April 6, 2007 - 18:27 ET by bigtimer01...
Do you have a link to Chetry being fired?
I am serious.
I heard it was over her wanting/demanding more money.
This inquiring mind will be waiting with anticipation...
Chetry
April 6, 2007 - 18:42 ET by 01-20-09big,
I gave the unfiltered version, here's the filtered:
" Apparently, Chetry wanted a clause in her contract that would have had Gretchen Carlson, a co-anchor of Fox & Friends, fired.[2] [3] The next day Fox News informed her that they would [4] terminate her current contract [5] immediately and that she would be free to leave before the expiration of her existing contract. She exercised that right."
http://en.wikipedia....
01,....wikipedia?Hmmm....all
April 6, 2007 - 18:54 ET by bigtimer01,
....wikipedia?
Hmmm..
..all I know is I heard it was over money.
Gretchen Carlson is awful as far as I am concerned.
Who knows...I just hate to see her gone...I really enjoyed her, and if CNN thinks putting her on their show in the morning is going to change their ratings...I think not.
Time will tell.
1-20: I find this article off
April 6, 2007 - 18:59 ET by QueenMum1-20: I find this article offers a better description of what happened. Ms. Chetry was done in by a greedy agent.
Queen...I know you were respo
April 6, 2007 - 19:06 ET by bigtimerQueen...
I know you were responding to 01...but I thank you for that link..it explains everything perfectly.
Liked the comments too...agreed with most that I read.
Well, if Wikipedia says it, I
April 6, 2007 - 23:30 ET by UnsaneWell, if Wikipedia says it, It Must Be True!!!
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Actually, that's pretty funny
April 6, 2007 - 18:49 ET by QueenMumActually, that's pretty funny 1-20.
My stove has been growling at
April 6, 2007 - 16:14 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveMy stove has been growling at me lately...is that one of the signs leading up to it tipping over and killing me?
Is tipping over all they do?
Should I be concerned that it may sneak into my bedroom at night and suffocate me while I am asleep?
Mine also likes to burn me when I touch the pretty orange element at the bottom...I always thought that was normal behavior but, could it be more unfriendly and anti-social behavior I should encourage my stove to seek counselling for?
What is the best self-defense shotgun load I should use to protect myself from a rabid stove...and If I shoot it in the back is it still considered self-defense?
I'm really worried about this...I've been around stoves for 35 years on a daily basis and never seen any of this type of behavior...but now I'm terrified!!!!
That's it...my children are no longer allowed to come within 25 feet of our kitchen or any stove anywhere. I'll get a restraining order against the stoves if I have to.
There should be a law!!!!
</sarcasm></liberal tendencies></call for government controls>
"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.
Joan Claybrook should be in prison.
April 6, 2007 - 16:15 ET by Dave RPublic Citizen's, Joan Claybrook called them "killer stoves," and
attributed 26 deaths and "almost a hundred injuries" to falling stoves.
I wonder how many people were ultimately killed (and my mother nearly was) by the defective airbags that Joan Claybrook and her safety nazis forced onto an un-suspecting populace?
Joan Claybrook should be in prison to this day.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.
Joan Claybrook is a maddening
April 6, 2007 - 16:20 ET by bigtimerJoan Claybrook is a maddening leftist.
I detest her..always have.
I think it's a her...she could go either way and no one would know the difference or care.
She had a lot to do with forcing Montana to forcibly change their speed laws...or else we got no funding...blah blah blah...I knew who she was before that anyway though...long before.
Socialist witch galore.
bt,
April 6, 2007 - 16:40 ET by Dave Rbt,
You know, I just realized how much she reminds me of Janet Reno-or is it the other way around?
Either way, there is way too much testosterone going on there! :-)
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.
I refuse to allow my stove or
April 6, 2007 - 16:17 ET by QueenMumI refuse to allow my stove or any other appliance in my home to be bolted to the floor. In all the time that I've had a stove of one sort or another - over 40 years - I've never come to close to having my stove tip over. And I've never heard of this happening to anyone I know. But I do often cut myself with my Cutco knives. What should the government be doing about that?
Was there any mention of what kind of stoves these were, or what the circumstances were that caused the deaths and injuries? 26 deaths and "almost a hundred injuries" over what period of time?
Kiran Chetry must be regretting that she chose to jump ship to go to CNN if this is the sort of "reporting" she'll be doing.
QM...Agree about Kiran, I was
April 6, 2007 - 16:24 ET by bigtimerQM...
Agree about Kiran, I was going to mention that too when I read the whole subject matter, but got carried away with the attack of the killer stove.
Just how far can they go....oh never-mind.
I just shake my head and laugh anymore....
Btw in case I do not catch some of you here now....
Happy Easter to all..may you all have a blessed one.
Followed the link in the orig
April 6, 2007 - 16:25 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveFollowed the link in the original post and found a link in the article that took me here. I found this tasty segment:
"The reports detailed more than 18 deaths and 70 serious injuries between 1980 and June 1999"
So over 19 years time there were 18 deaths and 70 serious injuries. I can live with that. Swimming pools kill more than that every month.
According to their numbers "There could be as many as 20 million families in America with this safety hazard in their kitchen, and just as many injuries waiting to happen." The percentage of deaths or casualties are very low. Roughly 0.000005% of stoves will injure or kill someone. Getting a government mandate about this non-issue would be a gross waste of tax money.
Worrying about "Killer Stoves" is a waste of time.
"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.
Thanks, Mean One. I feel much
April 6, 2007 - 16:42 ET by QueenMumThanks, Mean One. I feel much better now. ;) That explains why I never heard about this before. Approx. 1 death/year in a country with hundreds of millions of stoves.
Queen Mum -do not make light of the stoves--
April 6, 2007 - 16:50 ET by misterbillQueen Mum -do not make light of the stoves--they can be vicious!
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
misterbill: I don't have to l
April 6, 2007 - 19:04 ET by QueenMummisterbill: I don't have to light my stove. It's electric.
In other words, stoves have a
April 6, 2007 - 16:52 ET by taznarIn other words, stoves have an amazingly good safety record.
I'm with the foundation for
April 6, 2007 - 18:34 ET by 01-20-09I'm with the foundation for Fingers Can Get Caught in Basketball Nets Awareness.
We put up graphics of a kid danging from one court side, a la the
parking deck gate bopping someone in the head graphic at parking decks.
I refuse to allow my stove or
April 6, 2007 - 16:19 ET by QueenMumCrap. Another duplicate post. Sorry, kids.
It was only a few months ag
April 6, 2007 - 18:01 ET by John in CAIt was only a few months ago Rush pointed out about the killer TV sets. Some group was whining about TV sets getting tipped over by kids and injuring them. Can't remember if what they were pushing for - bolted down, caged, strapped...but they were griping.
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
stoves
April 6, 2007 - 20:12 ET by Emma GrumpI certainly agree - why, just the other day, my un-bolted toaster fell over on my pet hamster Arthur, killing him instantly. I could not foresee this tragedy, and since there were no warnings on the toaster box, I guess I can sue the manufacturer, right? I mean, I'm a victim here.....
Forget "to mate ohs"
April 6, 2007 - 18:43 ET by ucForget "to mate ohs"? And how Bill made public apology this week about Monica and did so seemingly to thwart calls for public apologies for "counter terrorism", Sandy Berger's sticky fingers, un-backed up by strategy (or exit strategy) global trotsing by he and his women championing women rights in other's countries, and Hillary not getting the opressive money launch needed to keep race appropriate for the casting of the likes of Hillary.
What did I forget?
uc: I think you're lost. I'll
April 6, 2007 - 18:52 ET by QueenMumuc: I think you're lost. I'll call someone to take you back to your ward.
He really wanders off the res
April 6, 2007 - 18:58 ET by bigtimerHe really wanders off the reservation now and then QM...
I try now and then to give him some reassurance but oh well...what can one do?
Meanwhile, a story that actua
April 7, 2007 - 12:50 ET by jdhawkMeanwhile, a story that actually will save millions of lives, but one that you will never hear uttered on liberal anything:
DDT is banned across the world, thanks to do-gooder liberals. It is the most effective poison in the fight to kill mosquitoes. Mosquitoes are air born vectors of many diseases, but do the most killing of humans by infecting them with malaria.