Simply wow, is all I can say to the segment on last night's O'Reilly Factor. Both of them lost their cool in the extreme.
O'Reilly screams that Geraldo wants "anarchy", Geraldo yells that O'Reilly wants to take illegal aliens and "do something to them" over the infuriating story of a drunk illegal who killed two teenaged girls in a Virginia Beach car accident.
(Click Image to go to video)
I have to say, in my opinion they were both wrong a little and right a little, but neither did his case any good by getting into a shouting match. O'Reilly made it solely an illegal alien issue, and Geraldo completely excused illegals of all wrongs. O'Reilly had the better point, of course, but both tried to make it a single issue discussion with Geraldo accusing O'Rielly of, in effect, being a racist and O'Reilly screaming that Geraldo might not care about his own teenage girls.
They both lost their cool and looked like raving lunatics, as far as I am concerned.
(Hat tip Media Bistro)
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I changed the channel short
April 6, 2007 - 10:36 ET by ckc1227I changed the channel shortly after this segment came on because I knew Geraldo would basically be the illegal immigrant apologist that he is, and I had just eaten. And my instincts proved correct when the first thing out of his mouth was basically "well, American drunk drivers kill people, so who cares if illegals do it?"
After that, it was off to HGTV. On the positive side, I won $10 over that comment. Easy money. Thanks, G.
Enjoy
April 6, 2007 - 10:53 ET by iveseenitallI enjoyed it. Good to see someone finally show true anger about lawlessness being arbitrarily overlooked by the media and our Congress. All people should be treated equally. Laws exist for a reason and for everyone's protection. Nice going O'Reilly.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
mojados
April 6, 2007 - 12:53 ET by tejanodiabloback some years ago, when i still made an honest living, we lived in one of them hi-fallutin subdivisions .. had a pool, tennis court and stable for our 3 kids .. neighbor kids were always over to our place .. then a guy from mini sota moved down and bought the lot across the road from us .. was gonna build a house but wanted white peoples to do it .. i told him, if you want concrete poured, rock layed, landscaping or fencework, you gotta get meskins .. so he took the hi bid .. come the day to pour the slab, .. you guessed it .. one white guy drinking coffee and watching while 20 or 30 mojados (wet backs) framed up and poured the slab .. now, to get to the point, we need the cheap labor, we're gonna get the crime whether it's from browns, whites, blacks, or the rainbow coalition .. so we need to be concentrating on the crime .. the emergency medical i can live with .. the welfare, the social security, the drivers license, the education, etc = hell no !
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
I was rootin for Orielly al
April 6, 2007 - 10:39 ET by MightyMouthI was rootin for O'Reilly all the way! My wife told me to calm down. I told her: "in a minute honey". :-)
Where's balboa saying this was all an act for ratings...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I saw this and it was absolut
April 6, 2007 - 10:40 ET by Dan The Man 2I saw this and it was absolutly halarious. I thought it was going to come to blows, and it would have if it had been me. Never seen Oriely get so mad.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
I was quite amused when I saw
April 6, 2007 - 10:42 ET by GalvanicI was quite amused when I saw this replayed on Fox & Friends this morning, because I've always been surprised that they never got this heated over the illegal alien subject before. This one was a real verbal donneybrook.
IMHO, O'Reilly won the argument (But I admit that I'm biased against illegal aliens). Rivera resorted to a typical defense lawyer tactic: the illegal was enticed to come to America by availability of work, so try him for breaking DUI laws, and don't deport him. By the same logic, we shouldn't charge criminals for breaking and entering because they were enticed by the wealth they expected to find in the home. Rivera claims that the illegal residency of the perpetrator has nothing to do with the DUI. Sorry, Geraldo, but your logic isn't logical. It has everything to do with it.
It's a matter of simple physics: a human being cannot be in two or more places at the same time. There were 3 opportunities to deport this criminal: two arrests for public drunkeness and 1 for reckless driving. The failure to act meant that instead of being DUI in his native country, he was DUI here in the US, and caused a fatal crash. Had he not been in the US, he would not have killed these innocent victims.
Galvanic,Rivera is right ab
April 6, 2007 - 10:59 ET by MightyMouthGalvanic,
Rivera is right about "enticement", just wrong about who is doing the enticing. The Mexican government is "enticing" it's citizens to cross the board by being corrupt and by not allowing a true middle class to exist. Geraldo can't or doesn't see this because he has the fundamental liberal mindset that America is thee cause of all the worlds problems.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Absolutely true, MM. The Me
April 6, 2007 - 11:20 ET by RJAbsolutely true, MM. The Mexican government cynically uses the U.S. as a pressure relief valve to prevent an uprising and demand for reform by Mexican citizens.
Also, it's the illegal alien apologists like Riviera who are the true racists, because they want different treatement for THEIR favorite ethnic group.
"Did we think Kyoto would [reduce global warming] when we signed it? . . . Hell no!" -Al Gore
mighty mouth says
April 6, 2007 - 13:00 ET by tumbler_2007I don't follow along with all Geraldo thinks or says. But to me it's very plain you don't know anything about Mexico or this present situation at the border. You blow off smoke trying to pontificate, and upstairs you're an empty box.
Well tumbler, unlike you, I
April 6, 2007 - 13:08 ET by MightyMouthWell tumbler, unlike you, I have been to Mexico. Everthing I said is true and you know it. na..na..na..
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
mighty impressive !
April 6, 2007 - 13:23 ET by tumbler_2007Mighty has been to Mexico ! UNLIKE me; a man who's dealt first hand with every level of Mexican citizen for over 50 years. I've been In Baja, Sonora, Mexico City and Chihuahua; and I speak PERFECT SPANISH. My friends were in both major political parties and I've read every major Mexican periodical and newspaper. (I'm sure you're bilingual and subscribe to Proceso, Ovaciones and Excelsior.) I've been a trusted employee of a major Mexican exporter of seafood, meeting not just Mexicans, but Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean, French and North American business and government representative. I knew the ex- Secretary of State from Mexico, who only passed away recently. A VERY great man. But Mighty Mouth is the authority on Mexico ! Ha ha !
Yeah you were there, as a critic and indisputable authority on what makes Mexico a state. Bullshiet ! You ate and drank like a hog.
You came back feeling like a king; everybody had waited on you hand & foot. But you never took your brains there, and after you returned you felt qualified to blow smoke at everybody. What a farce ! Mighty Mouth for eating, maybe.
Reading your posts have bec
April 6, 2007 - 13:30 ET by MightyMouthReading your posts has become pretty easy for me,I just skip the "content".
A few facts for you.
90% of Mexicans are un-banked.
Mexico is a cash society, in fact employers are required to pay in cash.
EVERY bank in mexico has one or two shotgun totting guards OUT FRONT for security.
If you HAVE been to Mexico you must be blind or deaf or dumb or all three.
I suspect just blind and your 12 year old grandaughter is typing for you, which pretty much makes you a child abuser.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
exactly what is your point ?
April 6, 2007 - 20:54 ET by tumbler_2007A few facts for me ?
(90 % of Mexico are un-banked.) You counted all the Mexican population ? Might it not be 40% ? Possibly 98% ???
You make blanket statements rather recklessly. I maintain STILL; you don't know crap about the Mexican government nor society nor the people. I do. Neither does texanodiablo. (Not that I care.)
I was in banks in Baja California many hundreds of times as a courier for my company. Not you, ME. The economy at that time, late 80's early 90's was NOT as strong as now; yet there were hundreds of Mexican people coming and going. No shotgun-toting guards out front. (You're crazy.) Security is basically same as in the U.S. I think you're fabricating, in other words, telling us falsehoods. I'm not blind nor near-blind. I type my own and operate a Mac Mini. I have no grandchildren. Sorry to have to disappoint you, Big Mouth.
tumb
April 6, 2007 - 21:11 ET by gfrrmanWhat is it with you? You sound just like Geraldo. Btw, what's up with your comprehension?......read carefully......
......"EVERY bank in mexico has one or two shotgun totting guards OUT FRONT for security."
Now correct me if I am wrong(which I'm not), but what is wrong with this picture?....
......."I was in banks in Baja California ...." Care to explain?
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
gfrrman - since Baja Californ
April 6, 2007 - 21:30 ET by ding7777gfrrman - since Baja California is part of Mexico....
ding.......run along now, go
April 6, 2007 - 21:49 ET by bigtimerding...
....run along now, go collect those marbles you lost...scoot...
good boy...have fun now, play nice....!
I don't sound like geraldo
April 6, 2007 - 21:49 ET by tumbler_2007You sound like a busted record. Why do you always attack the messenger?
YES, I was telling that know-it-all, who wants folks to believe he understands ALL THERE IS TO UNDERSTAND about a neighboring country-- that he understands NOTHING about Mexico. What's up with you; is that hard to fathom? Here we have a Bozo pontificating how Mexico has come to produce illegal immigrants. He thinks it's by intention; nothing but sheer evil. (Don't think some of our NB morons won't huff-puff he's right.)
These mental sputters are no better than the Global Warming BS; tell the world any lie & you take the Academy Award; you don't need any sensible argument or proof. That's why I'm having to rebut all those cockamamie things always pushed here. People will begin to think this @ss knows what he's talking about ! UN-BANKED ! 90 % of the country ! OH, SURE !
To think others such as YOU are so incredibly DUMB as to put faith in wackoes like these ! Can't you THINK ?
Yes; part of my job was courier runs from San Diego into Baja California; many which involved banking operations. NOT MONEY; documents and legal instruments between our corporation in California & the exporters working from Mexico City. Our company at the time was operated by a Mexican cabinet ministry, (Secretariat of Fisheries) since privatized. We maintained offices in San Diego, Calif. OCEAN GARDEN PRODUCTS, Inc, as well as 28 more branches in North America; importing about 75% of Mexico's yearly seafood crop of shrimp, lobster, abalone, tuna and other seafoods. Our sales then were 360 million dollars a year. Any more questions ? Mexico owns the most fantastic, longest seafood-rich shoreline in our hemisphere. They supply almost all the united States and Canada with their products.
I don't just talk off the top of my balding head, like Mighty Pie Hole does. I KNOW Mexico. And I know our country, I'm 100% natural-born hispanic American. And I'm LEGIT; you can always trust me speaking of Mexico and Mexican-American and hispanic culture, history etc.,
fish story
April 6, 2007 - 13:36 ET by tejanodiabloso, tumbler was a trusted employee of a meskin seafood company .. smells more and more like a fish story to me .. saco tripas ! ..
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
mesko
April 6, 2007 - 13:31 ET by tejanodiablothey have a big theme park based on sneekin across the border for Christos sake .. the meskin government gives out maps and comic books with instruciones on escape and evasion .. they probably offer scholarships for the coyote fees .. and then the peckerwood liberal enablers on this side provide marked water stations ..
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
I was hoping to see a wedgie
April 6, 2007 - 10:44 ET by OldSailor88I saw the show last night and really enjoyed the tussle. O'Reilly is right on this one in my books. Especially on the illegal alien issue. Geraldo was trying to down play the fact that the man in jail for killing these two girls only had a "couple of drunk and disorderly" arrests. This part is not true. He also was convicted of a DUI and served time along with a fine and a one year suspension of his license, and was implicated in an identity theft. This issue is making the Virginia Beach Mayor, and City Council sweat because the most important money maker here is TOURISM. With tourism comes the myriad of hotels and restaurants, and with that comes all of the low wage workers (read illlegal aliens) to fill all of the service industry jobs.
http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=122433&ran=34369&tref=po
Another issue in the fight was about deportation after committing a crime. In the article above, you can see the policy of Law Enforcement here. They don't ask immigration status in order to get cooperation. That's all well and good. What they don't say here is that the City of Virginia Beach doesn't have a "Letter of Understanding" with the Federal immigration officials. So, when an illegal alien does break the law, they are fined and sentenced, but not reported, because there is no legal and diplomatic connection between the local government and the Feds.
Would anyone nationally have noticed if these girls were killed by a local, legal, resident? No. But the point here is that we have a thrice convicted alcoholic illegal alien who should have been deported long ago. And two young lives were ended because he wasn't.
Thats another thing OS...how
April 6, 2007 - 10:53 ET by bigtimerThats another thing OS...how could this piece of work had a legal license in the first place?
He was an illegal alien.
We have to do something...and soon.
Btw...the judge in this case needs to step down...forever, there are a lot of cases like this all over the country.
Carol Lamb that was let go in the eight firngs here lately had no experience in the postion of she was put in by Clinton, she was put there because she was Clinton's DNC fund raiser in California...she did nothing to bring convictions against illegal aliens...even DiFi sent a letter of complaint to the Justice Dept. she managed to conviently forget she sent.
I watched this last night, al
April 6, 2007 - 10:47 ET by bigtimerI watched this last night, also commented on it somewhere with another poster and sent a link.
It was a great segment as far as I was concerned...this country is to the boiling point over the illegal aliens here, and absolutely nothing happening to them, zilch.
If this was our daughter or son that was killed in this car crash are you going to say you would not be outraged with our lax system...all for political convenience...dems for illegal voting election...repubs for businesses...
If we get one...and I mean just one politician running from any party that would run on this issue and appointing conservative Judges that follow the Constitution, instead of making it up as they go...
That person will win hands down.
As an aside...if O'Reilly and Geraldo had been in a bar setting, had a few drinks in them Geraldo would be in the hospital this morning....which cracks me up.
His outrageous spiel was just that...outrageous.
Spot-on, Warner. I think th
April 6, 2007 - 11:03 ET by sarcasmoSpot-on, Warner. I think they saw Rosie go profitably nuts & both instinctively figured: "shouting plus lunacy = RATINGS!" I miss Buckley's Firing Line show more & more these days, much as it pains me to admit PBS occasionally did/does good things...
JMR
sarc,I did not find lunacy ot
April 6, 2007 - 11:11 ET by bigtimersarc,
I did not find lunacy other than coming from Geraldo's mouth.
People are furious about this whole illegal alien situation...from my point of view I found it refreshing for a change...
I have never seen BOR this angry before...and he speaks for a lot of us.
Well, when anyone is that a
April 6, 2007 - 11:22 ET by sarcasmoWell, when anyone is that angry, it makes him/her also look a bit irrational, but I do understand the anger. I just conversed today with an honest (and very smart) prospective US immigrant. He's not a criminal at all, but he wanted to stay in the USA. The guy had signed letters from a US Deputy Secretary of Defense stating that he's an asset to US national security for his **humanitarian & environmental work** - and I KNOW they're right. With all of that info in front of the Dept. of Homeland Security & an immigration judge, he was still ordered to leave on Jan 25th of this year, so now he's gone. Now Iceland gets his brain instead of the USA...Our policy seems to reward dishonesty & punish honesty, in addition to its other, more-obvious flaws.
JMR
Sarc, you can't possibly be s
April 6, 2007 - 11:38 ET by Roger the ShrubberSarc, you can't possibly be saying the government is ineffective, can you?
Ineffective would actually
April 6, 2007 - 11:45 ET by sarcasmoIneffective would actually be an improvement; in this case they're downright counterproductive... Unless, that is, you're an Icelander. Time for Hooters so I can forget all this!
JMR
He was educated, a contributo
April 6, 2007 - 11:53 ET by kathleenirishHe was educated, a contributor, white and male. 4 strikes there.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
Nope, you got 3 outta 4 but
April 6, 2007 - 19:08 ET by sarcasmoNope, you got 3 outta 4 but ya missed by about half a planet on race. He's Indian (from India, not Native American -- hence the immigration-issue). The most politically-incorrect things about him are either his Hindu religion (they're probably hateful & dangerous terrorists, you know -- but seriously, knowing his views on war makes his DOD employment a bit hilarious, but nonetheless it's seriously-cool!) and his (prepare to be shocked...) libertarian political/world views which allign almost perfectly with mine. Gotta go, poker & friends call, more replies later. Oh yeah, another thing; I don't spend NEARLY enough time every week drinking beers at Hooters! :)
JMR
In fact, here's a video of
April 8, 2007 - 08:13 ET by sarcasmoIn fact, here's a video of him. Obviously a prime (honest) candidate for deportation from the United States while millions of the dishonest get to stay...Sigh...And people still wonder why I'm a libertarian.
JMR
I think Bill went too easy
April 6, 2007 - 11:13 ET by n2soonersI think Bill went too easy on him.
Sarc: When isn't it time fo
April 6, 2007 - 11:55 ET by kathleenirishSarc: When isn't it time for Hooters for you?
Awesome!
April 6, 2007 - 12:21 ET by thefirstjustinI saw that last night as well and it was awesome! I've never seen Bill that worked up. I was waiting for him to hit Geraldo. Hopefully Bill would've knocked some sense into him.
Thank you Bill!
April 6, 2007 - 12:46 ET by foolnomorethe way to go Bill,to bad you were ,wasting the blood pressure,
Hay ? who said it's time for "Hooter's",wait up,
Bless and support All the troops - Liberalism "is" a mental disorder!
I live in the area, but never
April 6, 2007 - 13:24 ET by Senior ChiefI live in the area, but never cross my noggin that Virginia Beach is a sanctuary for illegal aliens. I told my wife, "there goes the education, and the taxes is going up". With 250K-300K and counting, illegals in Virginia, we will be like Texas and California soon. Dial numero uno por espanol...I am not against immigrant, because I am an immigrant. I am against illegals. My 3 sisters' petitions were disapproved after the original petitioner (my mom) died and after I refiled the petition as their substitute sponsor. 12 years of waiting just to be canned!
BOR was right in the argument. There are plenty of Americans screaming to our politicians to act on this issue ASAP. The borders need to be secured, to be able to enforce the law. Their job is to protect the sovereignty of our country and ensure English is the language for transacting business.
immigrants
April 6, 2007 - 14:04 ET by tejanodiablosenior : ... my family, too, are immigrants .. we came to Tejas in '35 .. that was 1835 .. they were at San Jacinto (ha-sin-toe) .. now we get illegals from everwhars .. mezko, okies, mini-sota, even stinking new joisey ;)
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
Wow what a video clip! Two
April 6, 2007 - 14:58 ET by radiofitz34Wow what a video clip! Two type A personalities. Geraldo wanted to talk about drunk driving only. Bill stuck to the topic (cause it's his show). Clearly Geraldo had good points, BUT that does not excuse him for going off topic. Geraldo can do his own piece on drunk driving for God's sake. Rivera revealed himself once again as being a showboat.
I don't think Geraldo Rivera
April 6, 2007 - 15:18 ET by GalvanicI don't think Geraldo Rivera had any good points. His defense of illegal immigration was total; his position: let's not deport illegal aliens when they commit crimes; let's just punish them for the crime as you would a US citizen or legal alien. He emphasized that none of the convictions on this individual's record raises to the level of deportation, and that the only issue was the DUI; illegal immigration had nothing to do with it.
Bill O'Reilly's point was quite simple but irrefutable: Had this illegal alien been deported after any one of his arrests (2 misdemeanors for public drunkeness & 1 conviction for DUI), then he would not have been physically in VaBeach, DUI, and causing the crash that killed two local girls. None of Rivera's points could deny this fact.
For the ordinary illegal immigrant
April 6, 2007 - 21:15 ET by tumbler_2007It matters very little what Geraldo and O'Reilly are so troubled about; we look at the Big Picture; not isolated DUI cases or death on the highway. Overall, many more legal citizens run around driving drunk than illegal aliens. Everybody launches into the usual hate speech over a single incident and now whatever Bill O'Reilly thinks is the gospel ? Who cares what the celebrity says? Do you worry about what Keith Olbermann says? No. Or Chris Matthews? No.
All of a sudden O'Reilly carries the day for Bozoes on a crusade against illegal immigrants. Whoopie! NOW there's a fantastic spokesman ! Give me a break ! Has BO looked at the big Picture; an overall, unbiased, clear look at ALL the facts? No, that's not your fetish today; it's dumping on Mexico and Mexicans. Throw that drunk driver in prison and forget Geraldo ever mentioned him; we're talking about 7 to 12 million illegal immigrants.
Dumping on Mexico my arse....
April 6, 2007 - 21:27 ET by bigtimerDumping on Mexico my arse....
Think Illegal aliens tumbster.
Ilegal aliens...illegal aliens...illegal aliens.
Mexico better do something about it...we had better do something about it.
The majority of Americans say we had better do something about it...
NOW!
Not yesterday anymore...
Btw.....screw the motor-voter law too that was so slickly mandated and sent through for the dems planned by the likes of Shrillary, for more votes for the dems by the illegal aliens...that needs to be undone if possible.
stupid tumbler
April 6, 2007 - 21:29 ET by gfrrmanTypical of you tumbler. YOU always overlook the "BIG PICTURE"....ILLEGAL CRIMINAL INVADERS!!! ...."we're talking about 7 to 12 million illegal immigrants."
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
same tune, same non-starters
April 7, 2007 - 01:57 ET by tumbler_2007Same big spiel; bigtimer and YOU seem to think we need the illegal bag of wind played another forty times. YES, Miz Fanatic ! They're all illegal, now get over it !
Just get used to it. NO-- there isn't any majority out there carping away the same as you. If there were, logically we would've carried the November 007 mid-term elections-- Hell, your squawking couldn't even win in Arizona, where God knows it really has become a crisis. All over the country your pissing and moaning was simply IGNORED by the voters!
Yet all you clowns are still in denial; you pretend to yourselves that "the base" wasn't pleased with Bush so they didn't turn out. Self-delusion as usual.
Reality dictates, they never saw the urgency you see. Nobody but you consider the illegal immigrants to be criminals or invaders. They're just foreign immigrant labor, harmless. America voted your squawking lobby clean out the door. That's what we get for your fence caterwalling. And still you can't pipe down about the imaginary "majority". Majority --in your dreams.
As for the illegals; what do you propose to do about it, now that you've lost us the Congress ? You don't even have a plan. Anybody can come here and preach to the choir ! I only hope your fanaticism hasn't already lost us the White House.
Tumbler?
April 7, 2007 - 03:13 ET by Timothy HAre you a member of Congress? Because between the hypebole, the rhetoric and the flat out Red Herrings, I can't get a single fact out of anything you write.
Ummmm......so from what I get from your post, the only issue anyone based a vote on was illegal immigration? And that voting for a particular party indicated your stand? What has Bush done about illegal immigration? What has Pelosi or Clinton, or McCain, or Reagan, or Carter, or Genghrich, or anyone else on any side of the aisle done about illegal immigration. Hell, even the MSM didn't do much to hide the fact that the republican losses were more about what they didn't do than what the dem's would do, or did.
And just a quick pointer. Try actually saying something once in a while. Reading your posts reminds me of Micheal Flatley. A lot of dancing, but in the end, there isn't anything useful in it.
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
One note tumbler
April 7, 2007 - 03:37 ET by gfrrmanEver the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL INVADER apologist, tumbler continues on his crusade of bloviation and saying not a damn thing. At least you are consistant. Last I saw, over 67% of the population favors action on the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL INVASION. They are NOT "foreign immigrant labor, harmless" as you claim. They, no matter where they came from, crossed over the border ILLEGALLY!!! Therefore, they are CRIMINALS. That also makes them INVADERS!! It's oh so easy to understand, but you have your head up your arse and just can't see and won't see the daylight. With you, tumbler it's always the same old same old....you say you are against ILLEGAL immigration, but then you turn around and chastise all of us that want the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL INVADERS arrested and returned to wherever they came. Your dementia is spiralling down hill. It shows daily in your incessant, whiney 5 yr-old tantrums. Enough is enough!
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
Once again, the apologist f
April 7, 2007 - 13:02 ET by ScottyDogOnce again, the apologist for Mexicans committing crimes shows up to spread his propaganda that the Mexican invasion is a good thing. If you are an Illegal Latino the rules do not apply.
I guess when poll after poll show that the majority of voters want no amnesty and our laws enforced, according to Tumbler, it is all just a lie being perpetrated by xenophobes and racists.
When justice department statistics show that the invaders commit crimes at a far higher rate than our own legal citizens that is somehow a plot to racially profile the master race.
After all, if your a Illegal Latino according to Tumbler, they all walk on water and the rules do not apply:
Drunk Driving-No Problem
Identity Theft-No Problem
Hospital abuse-No Problem
Social Security Theft-No problem
No Auto Insurance-No Problem
Refusal to Speak English-No problem
Hospital ER's used as a Taxpayor funded Birthing Centers--No problem
Welfare Fraud-No Problem
Dumbing Down Public Schools--No problem
You see, according to the Latino Ethnocentrists, Latinos are the master race and resistance is futile.
..and I quote; "Just get used to it"
Is this Mexico or the USA
scottie doggie applies leverage HA!
April 7, 2007 - 14:35 ET by tumbler_2007Coming from one of our premier blog racists, the list isn't extraordinary. It only lacks doggie's recipes for stopping illegal immigration: wholesale murder of unarmed men & women at the border, and active, constant hate speech against the offending ethnic minority. If scottie doggie ever got his way, even LEGAL Mexican-Ameicans would have to pass his litmus test to remain citizens.
The first of his requirements would be, NEVER dispute a word spoken by your superiors; the good Americans who are always white, more intelligent than other ethnic groups, better-looking, and more capable of passing judgment, no matter the dispute. That's why they constantly try to shoot the messenger who brings them bad news:
THIS NEWS, Doggie Man-- You are not a majority by very much anymore. You have only ONE vote, same as others in your community. Yours is a vote in favor of your white supremacy, and it's starting to fail you these days. People have wised up to you and your hatred. That's the message. That's how come you hate the messenger. You are no longer credible, same as you never were responsible. You were riding on your sense of supremacy. Now it's hurting you, not helping. You are being defeated at the polls by hispanics who went over to the Democrats ! Just looka that !
ScottyDog is always right.Put
April 7, 2007 - 14:48 ET by bigtimerScottyDog is always right.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it tumbster.
Btw...You really need to learn how to comprehend what you read...especailly before posting...you are making an arse of yourself...once again.
Happy Easter...think you may need to lay off the Dago Red though for the day.
I lived in Virginia Beach fro
April 6, 2007 - 15:10 ET by GalvanicI lived in Virginia Beach from 1980 to 1990 and enjoyed it (We bought our very first house there in 1983), and naturally we saw a lot of change --- some of it good, and some of it bad. I would have to categorize this 'sanctuary city' nonsense as a bad development since we left. It's a shame, because I still consider VaBeach to be my second 'hometown.' But bad policies compound to make unsafe communities. I hope the citizens of VaBeach will mobilize around this incident and stand fast against further degradation of their community's safety.
Both had some valid points
April 6, 2007 - 18:14 ET by happyuscitizenBoth had some valid points but lost me when they lost their cool.
I am currently overseas right now enjoying traveling on an earned US Passport however, ........ Either way you cut it, Illegal Immigration to My Country is still Illegal!
"I'm just a big fat hairy American Winning Machine!" - Ricky Bobby
Interesting scrap...
April 6, 2007 - 20:08 ET by cunservatyveWould have been an interesting fight. Geraldo used to box, I think, and O'Reilly is a HUGE Irishman.
BTW...O'Reilly is right about "ILLEGALS"...ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL.
Cunservatyve military medical guy
If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote!
IMHO, it’s the reason the R
April 6, 2007 - 21:52 ET by USA4freedomIMHO, it’s the reason the Republicans lost the last election. I don’t believe it was the war or corruption. Spending and illegal immigration were the main problems. Every one looks at Bush and thinks there is some weird connection with Mexico. Just build the fence, then… we can deside what the hell to do with all of them! First the fence!
Remember No RINO’s in 2008
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagn- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
JD Hayworth losing was really
April 6, 2007 - 22:12 ET by bigtimerJD Hayworth losing was really bad for an example in Az.
I am worried only about one thing with Thompson, who I have been rooting for since I heard he may ran and put it on this site immediately I was so excited, because I know who he is and have watched him for years in the Senate...however my worry is answer to Chris Wallace has to do with immigration, he is more for the McCain/Kennedy/Bush approach...and I was very disappointed.
I will hope he still steps in the ring as I was the day I first heard he may be running, to be happy about this and post so...but if he does he had better rethink his poition in my opinion on the border situation and illegal aliens.
got news for you, timer
April 7, 2007 - 02:14 ET by tumbler_2007He's supposed to know more about these things than you; and he does. What a laugh, one little sad sack out in nowhere, "disappointed" because Fred Thompson isn't in lockstep with her and some other bull-s;;tters on illegal immigration ! Has it ever occurred to you that you have NOTHING concrete to offer, by way of solving the problem? Nothing but grinding your teeth and screaming your hate speech at Mexico. Thompson's made of better stuff than you are. Bush is smarter than you by seven leagues. I'm so tired of hearing your inane, stupid comments. Get a life !
dumbler
April 7, 2007 - 04:01 ET by Timothy Hawwwww......is the poor little dumbler iwwitated becawse nobody agwees wif him? Is that why he's so agwessive now? :-(
Be condescending all you want, but the majority of the nation is not in argeement with you, and sooner or later the gov't isn't going to have Iraq to hide behind to avoid the issue. Why do you hate America so? Why do you support the breaking of our laws and sovereignty? If boundries shouldn't be in place, than I guess you would have no problems with people just coming into your home and squatting there, right? I mean you did just kind of entice them to come by having water and heat and electricity, along with a full refrigerator and a TV set.
I think you should put your money where you mouth is, and post a nice big add for ilegal immigrants to just come on and all to stay at your place. Or are you just meaning it's OK as long as they're just into someone else's boundries.
P.S. try making a point once in a while. It would make your posts so much more interesting. Need an example? Look above. I clearly pointed out that your condesension was inane, and that the idea that illegals aren't a problem is relative to there proximity to a liberal. And all was said through a satirical, yet serious, lens. See, it's not that hard.
Condescension isn't all that nice when it's recieved, is it?
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
What specifically upsets you?
April 7, 2007 - 02:26 ET by Conservative VoiceWhat specifically upsets you?
This is what I found on Fred's position, but if you have more please enlighten me.
Bigtimer:Laura Ingraham int
April 7, 2007 - 13:26 ET by ScottyDogBigtimer:
Laura Ingraham interviewed Fred Thompson on March 21 and asked him about illegal immigration. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with his views.
You can listen for yourself at her free stuff link:
Audio Archives
Fred Thompson Interview MP3
Play Streaming Audio
I too am rooting for Fred Thompson as of late and would find a Thompson Tancredo ticket to be a winning formula or I would like to see a Thompson Paul ticket, anything but the same old bait and switch Rhinos.
We need to vote for real conservatives this time around and forget abut the CFR Rhinos that the RNC is trying to shove down our throats. The big three are nothing more than one world order/NAU proponents just like GWB.
Is this Mexico or the USA
Thanks, Scotty,I listened to
April 7, 2007 - 13:45 ET by BlondeThanks, Scotty,
I listened to the MP3 interview.
Sounds like Fred Thompson is ramping up for a run at the presidency.
Hoping.
ScottyD..Thanks...a big thank
April 7, 2007 - 14:03 ET by bigtimerScottyD..
Thanks...a big thanks!
I know he must of had word through people like me wondering just where he was going to stand on the issue of immigration and how he would handle it since his interview with Chris Wallace...he is no fool whatsoever...he can read the polls and knows well the American people as a whole have had it with the illegal aliens...had it...that is with the exception of one poster here...Juan La Raza Tumbleweedo...
Happy Easter to you and yours...
Btw...Still using your great links from long ago on oil, after-all it still remains in the same place now doesn't it?
most naive poster on NewsBusters
April 7, 2007 - 14:56 ET by tumbler_2007bigtimer talks a fine game; why can't she ever win?
"I know he must of had word through people like me" Tumbler: Don't flatter yourself. People like you are clueless. Thompson has to hear you, but he'll never serve you. He's a politician & knows that nobody oughta expect his single vote for Fred Thompson means he'll just snap his fingers and cure your phobias. He knows better.
"wondering just where he was going to stand on the issue of immigration and how he would handle it since his interview with Chris Wallace." --Tumbler: What's to wonder? He'll have to make decisions. A fence costing us 77 billion or a partial amnesty tied to renewed immigration enforcement as it NOW exists--? It ain't going to be what YOU want, Pal. ...."--he is no fool whatsoever...he can read the polls and knows well the American people as a whole have had it with the illegal aliens." --Tumbler: -- OK. You think Fred's a magician. He has only to say the magic word and racists all over town will be celebrating ! He'll close down illegal immigration. Just as all our past presidents did; because you say so. Har, har ! -- Go on, "that is with the exception of one poster here...Juan La Raza Tumbleweed,"
The poster who isn't a raving lunatic and white supremacist ? OH, YEAH . . . You mean the native-born American hispanic BIG TUMBLER ? ? ? Why, thank you, Spottie Doggie and clone "bigtimer" ! Mighty white of you two !
Thompson's got your butt puck
April 7, 2007 - 15:01 ET by bigtimerThompson's got your butt puckered doesn't he tumbster?
I love it!
Worried little tumbleweed aren't ya?
Heard the song Blowin' in the Wind?
Thats what is gonna happen to you and your illegal buddies if Thompson gets in...you and your ilk are gonna be Gone With the Wind!!
LMAO!
How little you know, Miz Fanatic
April 7, 2007 - 15:12 ET by tumbler_2007I'll vote for Fred Thompson. He gives me confidence; even if I find the way he divorced a woman who worked to get him through law school very tacky.
But who knows; she might have been a picky, nerve-wracking old biddy like you. He finally made a break for freedom ? I give Old Fred the benefit of the doubt.
I believe NOBODY can win the White House who doesn't carry the southern states. He might. Let us all hope so. I doubt he'll enact any of your dumb pipe dreams as far as illegal immigrants are concerned.
He'll serve his country very well, and simply must offer some form of amnesty to the illegals we can't possibly deport. Politics is compromise, sweet timer. You have so much yet to learn.
I give Old Fred the benefit of the doubt.
April 7, 2007 - 15:18 ET by misterbill"I give Old Fred the benefit of the doubt." What a generous hearted person you are , hypocrite. I am sure Fred sits up nights waiting for false patriots like you to forgive him for any life experiences that Tumbler decides needs forgiveness. Old age has softened your grey matter, you lying traitor!!
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
PS re: Old Fred
April 7, 2007 - 15:27 ET by misterbillOld Fred says: "I'll give those old goats who marry young ladies the benefit of the doubt even if they are, at heart, still Mexicans. We may one day have to deal with them in the country of Aztlan. However, if I am elected as US president, I will put an instatnt stop to illegal immigration. I will complete the fence at the border, I will triple the number of National Guardsmen there and I will lock up any repeat illegal crossing offenders. They will then be working in the fields for nothing. I will also put a fast stop to the establishment of Aztlan."
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
Oh tumbleweedo...You have me
April 7, 2007 - 15:22 ET by bigtimerOh tumbleweedo...
You have me laughing out loud so hard right now I can't believe it!
she might have been a picky, nerve-wracking old biddy like you.
Is that the best you can do?
You really are a riot!
Whazza madder your old lady kick your shriveled old arse out...she leave you for somebody her own age that can get the job done?
ROTFL!
One thing about you, you can sure keep the thread going, even on a Saturday!
me & my younger old lady
April 7, 2007 - 15:37 ET by tumbler_2007I know, bigwhiner; I'm a riot ! Ha ha !
Me and my loverly wife are leaving for Paris on the 27th of this month (April in Paris !)
The beauty of true love is, the marital act is BETTER with every passing year. I mean it. We'll celebrate our silver wedding anniversary on MAY 1st. (Um a little worried, that's the Cominterm's big whing-ding, May Day. A lot of noise and parading in the streets.) We'll take the pricey boat tour on the river Seine; it's all reserved; dinner, champagne, the works !
I'll try to contact you all from an Internet cafe someplace in the City of Lights. Holy Napoleon, Batman ! Tumbler's off to Paree !
It's your story you stick to
April 7, 2007 - 15:50 ET by bigtimerIt's your story you stick to it!
We will really really miss ya!
Please don't get lost now...ya hear?!
LOL!
while he is there----
April 7, 2007 - 15:58 ET by misterbillwhile he is there----he is going to take one of the jobs that the French people don't want. Gee, he will have to have a passport and the Gendarmerie will know where he is the whole time he is there! He should go to Spain and sneak across the border to France--say what??-the same rules hold true for Spain??? what a bunch of racists!!!
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
What a surprise, Bumbler likes France.
April 7, 2007 - 16:02 ET by Free StinkerMe and my loverly wife are leaving for Paris on the 27th of this month\
What a surprise, you like France.
When you arrive there, why don't you ask them what they do to illegal aliens in France? It's a rhetorical question . . .
Once again - you senile old fool
April 7, 2007 - 15:15 ET by misterbillOnce again - you senile old fool, I urge you to shut your yammering a$$ki$$ing mouth (via your keyboard). You would weaken this country so that your ethnic brothers would rule. And then you sit there and scream how you are a native born American. During WW2 we had native born Americans of German ancestry who joined the 5th column. Today's 5th column is comprised of American born Mexicans who seek the overturning of America--the revanchism of the southwest of America. You sir are a filthy traitor. Pack your lying butt up and take it back to the land that you love. If I were to write a screenplay, it would have you sitting in your uniform as the Prefect of Aztlan. You hypocritical Geraldo worshipper!
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
hold on, misterboil
April 7, 2007 - 15:23 ET by tumbler_2007Please, misterboil: hold onto your hernia. Don't hurt yourself -- Nobody's challenging your elder statesman role here. Must your every post be a practice in outrage and cursing? There's more to this life than insult and pulling your remaining hair out. Think of something cheerful to say. -- Go my son and sin no more. Pace, mio fratello piccino.
bite me!
April 7, 2007 - 15:29 ET by misterbillBite me!
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
Bigtimer Yep, they should b
April 7, 2007 - 15:24 ET by ScottyDogBigtimer
Yep, they should be active.
The arguments are more cogent now with the push of the Global Warming fraud.. Everything he said about the Government creating an oil shortage has now come to pass since he wrote his book about the Gull Island capping.
I still cannot figure out why Americans do not demand that we stop buying foreign oil and allow the oil companies to pump our own proven reserves.
I think Juan La Raza Tumbleweedo is a Tecate or Tres X's man myself.
Have a good easter weekend.
Is this Mexico or the USA
Scotty Dog
April 7, 2007 - 15:31 ET by misterbillScotty Dog - my numbers are not up to date, but I do believe at $3 a gallon, shale oil from our own country with billions of barrels available as estimated, has reached a very viable economic level. Let's do it. Meanwhile the tar oil in Canada is proving to be financially practical too.
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
misterb...You