Instead of profiling the great Arnold Palmer or sizing up the competition on the first day of the Masters tournament, the Washington Post took the time to complain about a liberal standbye: gender discrimination.
"Augusta Chairman Averts Issue of Women" screamed the Post headline on April 5.
Writing about new Augusta National chairman Billy Payne, reporter Leonard Shapiro said, "he refused to be drawn into a discussion that marked the tenure of his predecessor."
Shapiro chose to bring up old news -- the 2003 controversy when women's groups opposed the private golf club because of its entirely male membership. One result was that the Masters was aired commercial-free that year.
His report called to mind the all-out campaign The New York Times waged against the private golf club in 2003.
Even Shapiro admitted in the tenth paragraph that "the biggest news of the day" was Payne's announcement of changes to the eligibility requirements for the Masters tournament. Then why didn't it make the headline or the lead paragraph?
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Failed "all-out campai
April 5, 2007 - 16:10 ET by EdhenryFailed "all-out campaign".
Demonizing Augusta National more important than reporting them changing eligibility (which, btw, AN has an unfettered right to promulgate eligibility requirements without consulting NOW, the NY Times or the justice department)
correct
April 5, 2007 - 16:20 ET by Julia A. SeymourYes, you're right. Thankfully. Augusta has every right to be exclusive.
I am tired of these liberals
April 5, 2007 - 16:32 ET by ForeverOnTheRightI am tired of these liberals and liberal women’s groups who feel that it's discriminatory for their to be a men only organization. You don't see men filing a law suit against a women's group for not including them. Why can't their be a men only club? Their are plenty of other golf courses that don't exclude women. Give us men a place of our own, our own space. Their is a time and place when exclusion is not discriminatory or evil. As a gentle Christian, I am fine with Jews excluding me from their synagogue. Let them have their own place of worship. In the same way, why can’t men have their own place to congregate? Is their some inane fear that men will plot some dark sinister plot against women behind the doors of a men’s organization? Ok, I am done venting.
Forever...I agree with every
April 5, 2007 - 17:25 ET by bigtimerForever...
I agree with every word of your post.
I am sick of these women who must not have a life...and most likely never will.
This is tiresome.
Period.
bt
April 5, 2007 - 19:01 ET by gfrrman"....I am sick of these women who must not have a life...and most likely never will." bt, I agree. Pardon me for saying this, but you have SEEN Martha Burke, eh?
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
gf...Yes!LOL!Most all of thes
April 5, 2007 - 19:09 ET by bigtimergf...
Yes!
LOL!
Most all of these pathetic losers of women are not very attractive..or gay..or just lonely and loony...one thing they all are...leftists!
The make it hell for everyone else it they can.
bt, I guess Martha
April 5, 2007 - 19:23 ET by gfrrmanBt, I guess Martha HAS to do something so people will look at her...
Like most leftists, they aren't satisfied being the only ones miserable...they have to make EVERYONE miserable so we'll all be "equally miserable"
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
Agreed, BT.These women trying
April 5, 2007 - 19:09 ET by BlondeAgreed, BT.
These women trying to force their way into the boys club is ridiculous!
They'd invite us in if they wanted to....they're entitled to the boys club. Why on earth would any woman want to be where she wasn't wanted? I don't get that.
Besides, if we forced our way in (dumb, dumb idea!) we'd have to invite them along on girls day out.
<edit> I was recently at a "women's & minority meeting" thing (requried attendance) and I was so furious at the moderator's snide and insulting comments that I'd have walked out had it not embarrased my boss to death. What idiocy we put up with for political correctness. I am OVER it!!!!!!!!!
Right on, Blonde! There's a
April 5, 2007 - 22:22 ET by Scout FinchRight on, Blonde! There's a big difference between "private" and "public". I'd no more want the guys to get in on something private with women than I'd want in on something private for the guys.
Funny how Pelosi is willing to wear second-class head covering while in the Middle East to defer to the male hierachy there but is amongst a group of women who won't let the boys be in their own golf club here.
Their values are so misplaced and dangerous to this country.
Thank you Ladies! I had given
April 6, 2007 - 00:50 ET by James2306Thank you Ladies! I had given up hope that men only places were supported by any lady under the age of 80. My Grandmothers age, she and the wives of the other members of my grandfathers hunting camp set the rule that no women could sleep at the camp in anything other then an emergency and that all the other wives had to be told when and what the emergency was(we had to make a lot of phone calls when we evacuated there for hurricane Katrina so we could bring my brothers wife)
The hottest places in hell are oft reserved for those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral
Men are different. And, wha
April 5, 2007 - 17:07 ET by ucMen are different. And, what about that are they trying to change?
Augusta
April 5, 2007 - 17:24 ET by Gordon SchumwayMy son is working at The Masters this week. His accounting firm handles all of the money taken in for concessions and stuff (shirts, whoopie cushions). After the tournament, his team will get to play a round at the course. There are women on the accounting team and the women will be playing the course.
When the Martha Burke hubub happened a few years ago, Rush suggested that Augusta grant membership to one woman... Ann Coulter. Hey... I'd carry her bag and be her caddy.
Gordo
Melmac
Other than illegal activity,
April 5, 2007 - 17:51 ET byOther than illegal activity, of course, there should be no restrictions on types of clubs or anything private. If someone does not want to let me into a 'private' club because I am a woman, white, part Italian, tall, over 40, a home school mom, an activist, etc., etc., etc., they have that right.
If it is privately ran, owned, etc., not government ran and no government money is going to it, then 'it' has a right to discriminate.
Debra...
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Exactly Debra...It is private
April 5, 2007 - 17:56 ET by bigtimerExactly Debra...
It is private.
Leftist cannot help themselves if it isn't govt run or suit their fancy...which is putting it mildly for the Femi-Nazi types.
These critters are detriments for real women...always have been.
Hi bigtimer,This is also why
April 5, 2007 - 18:12 ET byHi bigtimer,
This is also why the 'left' wants to get the government into everything, because then the government has a say in that which it should not have a say in. The government does this by way of taxes and tax dollars.
First they tax the heck out of everyone and everything. Then they say, if we fill certain requirements we can get some of that money back in the form of 'aid.' Once, they give that 'aid' to us that's when we risk that they have us. We have to be very careful about what we take from the government, to know what strings are attached ahead of time. And if we need to turn down such 'help,' then we have to turn it down. This goes for other things as well --For instance, I will never file tax-exempt, for my activist work because I am not willing to forfeit some of my freedom of speech, when it comes to political candidates. ~Debbie
I'm just so pissed off that m
April 5, 2007 - 20:10 ET by Conservative in the ArtsI'm just so pissed off that my wife belongs to a woman's only club and I can't go or join! She goes to this private exclusive "women only" club 3 times a week and it's her "girl time".
I'm thinking of suing this "curves" club! Hey, I've got curves too.............just check out the curve of this bicep <grunt>
CitA, I've used the Curves
April 5, 2007 - 20:19 ET by John in CACitA, I've used the Curves for Women argument myself. I want to join. But, but, but, that's different! I'm told. How, ask I.
I want to write the book, Men are from Mars; Women are from Venus: You're Different, Get Over It!
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the bigger problem is that it
April 5, 2007 - 20:45 ET by Conservative in the Artsthe bigger problem is that it's not just one club, this evil Curves club is nationwide! there's like 3 or 4 in my city alone. It's a bigger problem then anyone will admit, and thier growing.
Men have fought for years to get into exclusive "women only" places like the birthing rooms at hospitals. We're in there now, but the fight is long from over. <tim the tool man grunt!>
CITA,Isn't it silly, what the
April 5, 2007 - 20:52 ET by BlondeCITA,
Isn't it silly, what the libs have a crying hissy fit over?
Halp us John Carry....we are stuk in Irak!
Idjits.
Hey Blonde!I'm back on my sum
April 5, 2007 - 21:03 ET by Conservative in the ArtsHey Blonde!
I'm back on my summer schedule of being a full time stay at home daddy, so I'll be around more.
Yea, it would be silly how stupid the lefties are, but then you think of how much power they have and it's enough to make your blood freeze. Kinda like chatting to a drunk off duty pilot at the airport bar, then see him head towards your gate.
I think this is a job for the
April 5, 2007 - 21:07 ET byI think this is a job for the ACLU, Conservative in the Arts. :o)
Discrimination in Golf
April 5, 2007 - 18:06 ET by pocomocoYou may recall, that Annika Sorenstam, the greatest woman golfer since Babe Didrikson, was invited to play in the PGA’s 2003 Colonial tournament where she shot 71-75 the first two rounds. and wound up not making the cut.
Imagine, therefore, what would be said if a men’s/woman’s tournament were held, and none of the women made the cut. What, then, would be Shapiro’s and Burk’s excuse?
There are many obvious reasons why men and women do not compete with each other in most sports. To my way of thinking, however, humiliation, such as happened to Sorenstam, ranks high on the list.
and to take the second step.W
April 5, 2007 - 19:13 ET byand to take the second step.
With Michele Wie continually testing the PGA; how is it that the LPGA can continue to discriminate against men by not allowing them to compete?
Should not NOW begin the lawsuits against this evil discriminatory organization? They supported the ERA (until judicial activism proved to be quicker) and after all what could be more equal?
Welcome to Equal Rights Ame
April 5, 2007 - 19:19 ET by John in CAWelcome to Equal Rights Amendment Round Two. Heard on the radio just last week that Congress is planning to introduce the ERA again.
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must have gotten scared that
April 5, 2007 - 19:35 ET bymust have gotten scared that the Supreme Court will adopt more of a constructionist bent with Sandra Day O'Conner gone
Liberals, words have meaning (if not shut the hell up)
You can bet ERA v2.0 will n
April 5, 2007 - 19:52 ET by John in CAYou can bet ERA v2.0 will not only address equality between sexes. It will address equality of gays and anything else the demos think they can throw in there that needs equalized.
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John,Okay, that's it.I am so
April 5, 2007 - 19:56 ET by BlondeJohn,
Okay, that's it.
I am so officially over it I want to scream out loud.
Where has the sanity gone? The entire country appears to have gone totally, off the wall, bonkers!
Blonde, I think the liberal
April 5, 2007 - 20:24 ET by John in CABlonde, I think the liberals believe there is a new understanding of need for an ERA v2 this time. The fact is during v1, the more people, women especially, learned about it, the less they wanted it. Witness the number of states that rescinded initial approval of it.
ERA v1 is one of the reasons the left despises Phyllis Schlafly. She became very active in helping to defeat it. She was a traitor to her gender, don't you know.
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Phyllis Schlafly is one of my
April 5, 2007 - 20:34 ET by bigtimerPhyllis Schlafly is one of my heroines.
Always has been.
BT'er, Now see, you're one
April 5, 2007 - 20:50 ET by John in CABT'er, Now see, you're one of the reasons we must have ERA v2. Using a gender specific term to descibe a female hero - heroine. How anti-PC/feminist can one get.
Start paying attention to how female actresses are described. Almost always described as actor now, rarely ever actress.
That's how we got flight attendant, instead of stewardess. Ask anyone these days what an aviatrix is. "Ummm, umm, some kind of bug?"
I try to use as many gender specific terms as I can, just in the hope that it will piss off someone. So, say fireman, not firefighter. And you keep on saying heroine. We sane people know what you mean.
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Ugh! The "ERA" ag
April 5, 2007 - 22:30 ET by Scout FinchUgh! The "ERA" again? Do I have to wear my Farrah Fawcett flips and polyester wide leg pants too?
The "ERA" is not about 'equal rights'. It's about special treatment for women (vis a vis 'equal pay' which means traditionally female-oriented jobs should pay more to equal hard, laborious jobs that men have traditionally worked at) and artificially set (by governmental fiat) hourly rates that have more to do with fantasy than real-world economics.
John,I spent last weekend wit
April 5, 2007 - 20:39 ET by BlondeJohn,
I spent last weekend with some friends...who are even more conservative than I! What a treat.
Liberals make me ill.
I had an interesting conversation with a couple of them a few weeks back.
They were "for Hillary"...because she "was smart" and "pretty".
Sheesh!
What is our country coming to?
We already have equal rights. But leave it to the libs to give extra-legal rights.
Blonde, I barely know how t
April 5, 2007 - 21:03 ET by John in CABlonde, I barely know how to respond to the smart and pretty. What makes them think she is so smart? Were these two liberal friends men or women? Cuz if one of them was a man and he's going to vote because he thinks she's pretty...well, please smack him upside the noggin' for me. I mean broomHillary isn't a bad looking woman, as far as women go, but pretty? If any guy would vote for the President because she's pretty, well he ought to have his male credentials taken away.
I think it's a sad statement of our society that John F'ing Kerry likely gained as much support because he looked and sounded presidential. It didn't matter that what he said made little sense. When he and Breck Boy took the stage and said, "...and we have better hair!" I thought I was going to puke.
Superficiality - the bane of our society.
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That's sure to be the Barrack
April 5, 2007 - 21:14 ET byThat's sure to be the Barrack nostalgic campaign commercial.
Commentator: "It's not what you've done it's how you rook an you rook marbollus!"
I mean what else has he done but be a media darling?
Barry sounds good. He's got
April 5, 2007 - 21:16 ET by John in CABarry sounds good. He's got the voice, don't you know.
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So does Darth Vader!Who goes
April 5, 2007 - 21:19 ET by BlondeSo does Darth Vader!
Who goes to the dark side over a voice?
OK, I'm being silly.
Can't help it.
John.Well, your comments have
April 5, 2007 - 21:16 ET by BlondeJohn.
Well, your comments have me laughing.
But to frame it properly...we were having a conversation amongst business associates.
And me as he lilly white WASP. This is for starters.
My conservative ally was an hispanic male. Alpha all the way. And totally a capitalist MCP (woo hoo, my fave type!).
The Hilllary lovers were both women, one black, one hispanic. But total libs. Dumb as posts. Unfortunately, though, they get to vote!
When the MCP and I challenged them....well, suffice it to say, he and I were ROTFLOAO.
It was an unhinged conversation.
Oh how I hate stupid liberal women more then idiot liberal men. Well, maybe not. They are just all so silly and stupid!
Halp me Jon Carry...we are stuk in Irak!
Blonde, you and the other w
April 5, 2007 - 21:29 ET by John in CABlonde, you and the other women who frequent NB'ers have to talk to your female sisters. It's a sad fact that we would not have had a democratic president in the last 50 years had it not been for women. Women vote as a whole over 50% for the democrat. What really gets me are the men who would vote for someone like Jimmuh Carter or Slick Willy. Too many guys getting in touch with their sensitive side I guess. Since I've been old enough to vote, I've never considered voting for a democrat for president. They're just too wimpy.
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John,I generally agree with y
April 5, 2007 - 21:37 ET by BlondeJohn,
I generally agree with you.
HOWEVER.
What on earth are you thinking..."I have to talk to my sisters"?
These broads are your sisters, wives, daughters, mothers, and aunts.
Why is it my responsibility to educate these idiots?
I am abjectly sorry that women vote like idiots...but I DIDN"T DO IT!
I guess I've been treading in the world of men so long that I just can't act like a sissy....I am what I am, I do what I do, and if someone takes offense...TFB!
The Pelosis of the world disgust me. As does Mrs. Bill.
Sorry, John.
Not my job to straighten out the women. What's up w/you guys....aren't you supposed to do that?
Blonde, lol. Hey, I'm busy
April 5, 2007 - 21:48 ET by John in CABlonde, lol. Hey, I'm busy trying to convert the 48% of men who vote democrat. Granted, I know very few of those, and I mean very few. A few years ago an old Navy buddy of mine was drifting leftward and I pulled him back from the edge. He had retired and moved to MN and started getting squishy on some things. He's saved now.
I was only trying, in my inept male way, of saying I wish more women were like you and the other women here. Sensible. ;)
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Okay, John.Better.I don't hav
April 5, 2007 - 21:56 ET by BlondeOkay, John.
Better.
I don't have a clue, or any insights for you men, here, as to why many women are so squishy and liberal. Not a clue! Sorry.
And I was raised in a family of mostly women. One dad, one mom and a sister.
Although my ex was a dem (oooh....a mixed marriage) I have no clue why and what and how liberals approach anything. Other than to know they're kind of messed up!
It's all beyond my way of thinking. Seriously.
Okay, I'm out now.
Big day tomorrow.
John...Do not call leftist wo
April 5, 2007 - 21:53 ET by bigtimerJohn...
Do not call leftist women my sisters.
They aren't.
Btw....my great-grandmoter marched for womens right to vote in Illinois, got her picture doing this right in front of me.
I told my grandmother it was a sad day when women got the right to vote...I was angry at the time with her constant defense of Clinton.
I truly feel the only people that should be able to vote in this country are people that pay property taxes and such...men and women.
Sorry this is short, but I am still angry at teeny weeny Mob...
LOL!
Btw...Are you being ran out of our great state too? Think I saw something somewhere saying you were leaving the desert?!
As a second generation native Californian it has been sad.
Pelosi and SanFran are enough of a reason...let alone all the others we have mentioned from the state before.
BT'er, I believe that one o
April 5, 2007 - 22:04 ET by John in CABT'er, I believe that one of the ideas for voting that the founders debated was restricting voting to property owners. They may have been onto something there. Many don't realize that without some type of reform soon in our tax structure, there is going to be a situation emerge where 51% of the population won't be paying income taxes. Now, just convince that 51% to relieve the burden on the 49% who do. As the saying goes, "more people riding in the wagon than there are pulling it."
Yes, I'm leaving CA soon, by June of this year if all goes right. Sad, cuz I really do love the desert here, and CA overall. Politically it's just untenable for me. I see an impending financial disaster in this state's government.
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John i think it was more than
April 5, 2007 - 22:08 ET byJohn i think it was more than a debate, it was the law that property owners only could vote. (men only also)
botg, You could very well b
April 5, 2007 - 22:13 ET by John in CAbotg, You could very well be right. It was something I read in passing a couple of years ago while I was researching something else. Can't say at this point in our history that was such a bad idea - only be able to vote if you have a vested interest in the welfare of the nation. Sort of like being a stockholder.
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John,If more people understoo
April 5, 2007 - 22:14 ET by bigtimerJohn,
If more people understood that property paying tax payers get re-taxed over and over again for the same thing on so many different items you have to have, tags for vehicles, fishing/hunting licenses...school taxes....insurance for home, insurance for vehicles...phone, power, cable/sattelite... I cannot even think to mention them all now,but tons of them!
I truly believe our Forefathers saw this coming long ago..we wouldn't be in the mess we are in this country now at all if only people that own or are buying get to vote....and those that have served in the military.
lets start with law school af
April 5, 2007 - 19:56 ET bylets start with law school affirmative action for white men!
botgThis would not work eithe
April 5, 2007 - 20:33 ET by pocomocobotg
This would not work either, because the men would still have a decided advantage, and the result would be the same.
What, then, can be done to satisfy NOW, the ERA bra burners, and feminists like Leonard Shapiro and Martha Burke? Why, make everyone equal, of course.
For the past twenty years, the feminists have been trying NOT to make women equal to men, but make men equal to women. I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase: The Feminization Of The American Male. And, since the failure of the ERA amendment, they have been very busy little bees accomplishing it through our schools.
Although, their attempts to equalize sports hasn’t gotten them anywhere, let’s take it to its logical conclusion if they were successful:
Golf:
Well, you get the idea. I’ll let your imagination run wild as to what would be required in other sports if the feminists had their way.
So then you're saying that Ji
April 5, 2007 - 21:08 ET bySo then you're saying that Jimi was right and decades ahead of us all:
"If a 6 turned out to be 9 I don't mind, I don't mind"
The tee box 10 yards closer t
April 6, 2007 - 14:47 ET by the_red_stateThe tee box 10 yards closer to the hole than the men's? I can see a lot of female golfers not being able to carry 175-yard hazards off the tee...
Is that the best the Post c
April 5, 2007 - 18:23 ET by gueinIs that the best the Post can do? I was hoping for another full-blown controversy so we could watch this year without commercial interruption.
This argument has grown so ti
April 5, 2007 - 20:09 ET by mostlymoderateThis argument has grown so tiresome. I happen to enjoy a round of 18 holes of golf with my guy friends and no women around. Does that make me a bad person? Seriously, I love my girlfriend to no end (we are getting married as soon as she gets done with med school); however, men need some "venting" time to be amongst their own. Frankly, women can be a pain in the 'arse' on the golfcourse. It's a fact that we talk differently, act differently, dress differently, drink differently, eat differently and smoke differently (Cohiba's in my case) when women are around. Funny thing is that "MOST" women are fine with this; it is only the feminazi that try to ruin everyone's fun. Sorry women, I love you, I just like my bonding time with the boys. Get a life!
Don't screw with The Masters.
April 6, 2007 - 05:53 ET by Dave RFirst of all, I want to congratulate Billy Payne on becoming the new chairman at Augusta National. I am sure he will do an escellent job of upholding the fine traditions and high standards that make that place not only so very special, but to those of us who know and understand the game, hallowed ground.
As a life-long resident of the state of Georgia (one who is very proud that my home state hosts what I feel is the most prestigious golf tournament in the world), as a golfer with a deep and abiding respect for the rich history and traditions of the game, and as a libertarian, I feel strongly that there are just some things in this world that should not be messed with in any way, shape, or form. Augusta National Golf Club is one of those things.
Liberals have been doing their utmost to destroy any and all private institutions that uphold ploicies with which liberals disagree. As one of many examples, just look at what they are doing to The Boy Scouts of America.
Exactly what part of "private club" do these do-gooder, P.I.T.A. meddling cry-babies not understand?
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.