Washington Post Pounds Pelosi’s Syria Trip as 'Foolish' and 'Ludicrous'

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Better strap yourself in for this one, sports fans, for the Washington Post ran an editorial Thursday harshly criticizing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California) and the “foolish shuttle diplomacy” she exhibited on her controversial trip to Syria this week.

(UPDATE: Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert issued a press release denying giving Pelosi a "peace message" for Syria.)

Entitled “Pratfall in Damascus,” the piece pounded Pelosi early and often (emphasis added throughout):

HOUSE SPEAKER Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered an excellent demonstration yesterday of why members of Congress should not attempt to supplant the secretary of state when traveling abroad.

Shocked? Well, the Post's editorial staff was just getting warmed up. Check those seatbelts again:

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After a meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, Ms. Pelosi announced that she had delivered a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that "Israel was ready to engage in peace talks" with Syria. What's more, she added, Mr. Assad was ready to "resume the peace process" as well. Having announced this seeming diplomatic breakthrough, Ms. Pelosi suggested that her Kissingerian shuttle diplomacy was just getting started. "We expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria," she said.

Only one problem: The Israeli prime minister entrusted Ms. Pelosi with no such message. "What was communicated to the U.S. House Speaker does not contain any change in the policies of Israel," said a statement quickly issued by the prime minister's office. In fact, Mr. Olmert told Ms. Pelosi that "a number of Senate and House members who recently visited Damascus received the impression that despite the declarations of Bashar Assad, there is no change in the position of his country regarding a possible peace process with Israel." In other words, Ms. Pelosi not only misrepresented Israel's position but was virtually alone in failing to discern that Mr. Assad's words were mere propaganda.

(Update continued: The following was reported by the Jerusalem Post, emphasis added:

The Prime Minister's Office issued a rare "clarification" Wednesday that, in gentle diplomatic terms, contradicted US Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's statement in Damascus that she had brought a message from Israel about a willingness to engage in peace talks.

According to the statement, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert emphasized in his meeting with Pelosi on Sunday that "although Israel is interested in peace with Syria, that country continues to be part of the Axis of Evil and a force that encourages terror in the entire Middle East."

Olmert, the statement clarified, told Pelosi that Syria's sincerity about a genuine peace with Israel would be judged by its willingness to "cease its support of terror, cease its sponsoring of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad organizations, refrain from providing weapons to Hizbullah and bringing about the destabilizing of Lebanon, cease its support of terror in Iraq, and relinquish the strategic ties it is building with the extremist regime in Iran."

The statement said Olmert had not communicated to Pelosi any change in Israeli policy on Damascus.

(End of update.)

Checking that link about now to verify that this really was a Washington Post piece? Well, here was the marvelous conclusion:

"We came in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace," Ms. Pelosi grandly declared.

Never mind that that statement is ludicrous: As any diplomat with knowledge of the region could have told Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Assad is a corrupt thug whose overriding priority at the moment is not peace with Israel but heading off U.N. charges that he orchestrated the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq al-Hariri. The really striking development here is the attempt by a Democratic congressional leader to substitute her own foreign policy for that of a sitting Republican president. Two weeks ago Ms. Pelosi rammed legislation through the House of Representatives that would strip Mr. Bush of his authority as commander in chief to manage troop movements in Iraq. Now she is attempting to introduce a new Middle East policy that directly conflicts with that of the president. We have found much to criticize in Mr. Bush's military strategy and regional diplomacy. But Ms. Pelosi's attempt to establish a shadow presidency is not only counterproductive, it is foolish.

Bravo. If only more of the sycophant media would recognize how dangerous – and, conceivably un-Constitutional – Pelosi’s actions were.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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I have a question: Did the

I have a question: Did the taxpayers pay for Her Majesty to go to Syria? If so, can we get our money back please?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MightyMouth - Are the taxpaye

MightyMouth - Are the taxpayers paying for the 3 Republicans who went to Syria last week?  Can we get our money back?

Hey Dingbat. The real issue i

Hey Dingbat. The real issue is did Pelosi violate the law by conducting foreign policy gestures as a U.S. representative without the authorization of the President? What Pelosi has done including this enormous error in delivering the right message is clearly reinforce to Americans that Democrats have not grown up and are still not responsible enough to conduct foreign policy in this post-9/11 era.

gnat -  Exactly what law is

gnat -  Exactly what law is being violated on a "fact finding" visit? 

Until Pelosi is as unpatriotic as Denny Hastert (who in 1997, encouraged Columbia military to "bypass the U.S. executive branch and communicate directly with Congress") you needn't worry about the Democrats not being grown-up

It's in Article II sections 2

It's in Article II sections 2 and 3 of the U.S. Constitution and supported by a litany of precidents that confirm one fact - the conducting of foreign affairs for the United States is solely vested to the President and anyone he appoints. By Pelosi taking a message from the Israeli President (which she botched) as a U.S. representative she went past fact finding and crossed over to conducting foreign affairs. The issue is did the President authorize her to take that message and what else did she discuss with Assad?

Pelosi

She should be investigated on all accounts, AND impeached.

Howdy Txlady..Should be!Won't

Howdy Txlady..

Should be!

Won't!

I'm curious what the next ste

I'm curious what the next step will be for the Dems regarding Pelosi's no-no.  We all could have predicted the "edit, spin and repackage" stage they find themselves in now.  Anyone care to guess their next move to salvage their "will of the people" platform?

I have no doubt Hillary has ravaged through 20 industrial sized legal pads trying to frame her response to the question, "Mrs. Clinton, what is your opinion of the role of Congress in foreign policy?" 

After glaring at the reporter for daring to ask her a fair question, she will undoubtedly ramble off a soliloquy about Bush's failure to break bread with Assad and pontificate the importance of any President to work in unison with Congress when devising foreign policy.  But knowing her unwillingness to do so if she were President, she would end the commentary by completely contradicting the aforementioned soliloquy with a subtle footnote saying foreign policy matters ultimately stop at the White House doors (which the MSM will edit out).

In the end, she will try to appease everyone while essentially saying nothing.  After all, indecision is the key to flexibility... just ask Bubba.

Just before the '06 election

Just before the '06 election I told Democrat friends of mine that the worst thing to happen for Hillary would be for her party to win the majority in the House. Why? Because it places her party in the position of having responsibility for actions and the people who would be in power are generally irresponsible and reckless. Conversely I felt it would be the best thing for the GOP and that is what is happening. The Dems are conducting witch-hunts and trying to usurp the foreign powers granted to the President under the Constitution. I suspect that the Hillary camp will began to distance itself from the actions of Pelosi and the House and go back to her former positions on the war after all winning is everything. She and the other candidates cannot control the actions and misdeeds of the Congressional leadership and will find out that Bill Clinton was right when he warned them soon after the last election that their victory was an opportunity and not a mandate.

Not only that but Prime Min

Not only that but Prime Minister Olmert denied he had given her any such message to negotiate with Syria.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

Sure did...Here is a link to

The terrorists have endorse

The terrorists have endorsed her. Her party realizes what a fool she is making not only of herself but what it says about them. And they are uncomfortable.

As far as the 'republicans' tagging along, better opportunity to eliminate them at the next election.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

Not only have the terrorist

Not only have the terrorists endorsed her. The AP had a story up earlier today  regarding the President's  criticism of her.  In it, the AP said  that the Bush administration  "deems" Hamas and Hezbollah to be terrorist organizations. (Others, I'm sure, "deem" them to be "freedom fighters".

Good question...  I think we

Good question...  I think we need our money back for this entire junket.  No aurgument.  IMO I think it was wrong for ANYbody in Congress to go over there without the permission of the President. 

Washington Post: We're sorr

Washington Post: We're sorry but our NeoCon editorial was wrong, Pelosi actually told Assad:

"in order for Israel to engage
in talks with Syria,
the Syrian government must eliminate its links with extremist elements,
including Hamas and Hezbollah." --

Not: "Israel was ready to engage in peace
talks" with Syria.

We're sorry our editorial lied.

http://mediamatters....

01..read it and weep

01...

Once again...read it and weep...this is an update from Haaretz...a different source.

I do not think you digest one single fact...not one.

...but then you are a leftist looney.

Queen Bee is a liar...simple as that.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=845618&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0

big, "Pelosi said sh

big,

"Pelosi said she had relayed a message from Prime
Minister Ehud Olmert, "to the effect" that Israel was ready for peace
talks with Syria.

"to the effect" is just spin, take what she actually said verbatim:

" in order for Israel to engage
in talks with Syria,
the Syrian government must eliminate its links with extremist elements,
including Hamas and Hezbollah." -- Wash Post correcting it's editorial on what Nancy Pelosi actually said.

You do not read.Hopeless litt

You do not read.

Hopeless little mindless troll.

Adios...done with you.

01 - Even if one were to acce

01 - Even if one were to accept the credibility of Media Matters, the fact is that the Speaker of the House crossed the line basic from fact finding to initiating foreign policy for the United States without the approval of the President. That is a clear violation of Article II of the U.S. Constitution and President Bush should initiate an investigation into your actual discussions with Assad.

Telling them not associate

Telling them not associate with terrorists is not foreign policy, it's common sense.
Not talking with them is not "common sense," something this WH has none of.
Six years of Shock and Awe Cowboy diplomacy brought this mess.

I have no idea what the heck

I have no idea what the heck you are saying??? What are you doing, trying to cut and paste Kos Kidz comments? You really need to get an education and write intelligently.

Peps', please refrain from fe

Peps', please refrain from feeding the 90210 Troll. For some reason he/she/it  finds it arousing.

<edit off>

"To bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

A suggestion from a group ,bi

A suggestion from a group ,bipartisan or not does not give anyone the authority to usurp the Constitution of the US.

The hottest places in hell are oft reserved for those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral

The Washington Post must be c

The Washington Post must be commended for this piece. It is EXACTLY right in all instances.

I find myself JUST as shocked that they published it.

But a bravo goes their way in this instance.

To me, the odd part from a

To me, the odd part from a political/strategic POV was that Pelosi probably could have gone over last week, with a few Republicans along on the trip as political cover. I wonder who advised her to go it alone, and give this appearance? Whoever it was deserves thanks from partisan Republicans, IMO.
JMR

sarcasmo - there is at least

sarcasmo - there is at least one Republican currently on Pelosi's trip and it provided her with absolutely no political cover.

As far as last week's trio of Republicans ( U.S. Rep. Joe Pitts, Frank Wolfe  and Robert Aderholt)  providing political coverage - I doubt it. .  Pitts is now saying his Chief-of-Staff "misspoke" (i.e, Bush now wants me to lie about our trip being coordinated with the Administration)

But nothing could compare with Hastert 1997 trip to Columbia when he encouraged the Coumbians too "bypass the U.S. executive branch and communicate directly with Congress."

Got a cite for Pelosi bring

Got a cite for Pelosi bringin' along any Republican, or at least his/her name?? And I'm certain both major political parties are doing wonders with my tax money in Columbia as they have for years. After all, prohibition works down-there..."I'll take a kilo of beans, gracias!" Mmmmm. Polarbeer.
JMR

sarcasmo - David Hobson, R-Oh

sarcasmo - David Hobson, R-Ohio is part of Pelosi's delegation.

There is a difference between

There is a difference between going on a fact finding mission as Hobson and others are doing and conducting foreign affairs for the U.S. as Pelosi was doing (or crudely trying to do).

gnat - Pelosi's visit is fac

gnat - Pelosi's visit is fact finding -  the neocon's spin is the hyperbole "conducting foreign affairs for the U.S"

Dingbat - she took a message

Dingbat - she took a message from the Israeli President as a U.S. emissary to be delivered to Assad as far as we know without the President's authorization. That is the legal responsibility of whomever the President appoints which is typically the Secretary of State. If Bush ever got off his pedestal he should have the Damascus Diva investigated for possible prosecution under Article II Section 3 of the Constitution. She should also be removed from office for causing an international incident for being a moron and delivering exactly the wrong message! But it all proves that Democrats are not smart enough or mature enough to be in charge.

In other words ding...She lie

In other words ding...

She lied through her bleached pearly whites!

Geesh...you would think even a leftist would understand this.

Read this story ding...digest it...comprehend it.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879247562&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

For this trangression alone s

For this trangression alone she should be removed as Speaker and should resign her seat.

Let's see who has the intesti

Let's see who has the intestinal fortitude to start the proceedings against the Lady Speaker???

so you think the Bush diplo

so you think the Bush diplomacy schemes have been great? No they have all failed and I'll put my money on the Baker-Hamilton recommendations. Unless you have a love of continued failure. At a point adults have to take charge...regardless of the party. ( it was both parties that went )

Citizen Troll, by no means ar

Citizen Troll, by no means are Bush's diplomacy "schemes" perfect, but they are different from his predecessor, which is an improvement by way of default.  Bush could have easily taken a few trips to the Middle East, engaged in the obligatory handshake photo-op, and then trumpeted his success upon return to the states.  Unfortunately, that crap only works with trolls like you and forces the next administration to reverse years of foreign policy negligence. 

I believe our love of continued failure stems from President Clinton's policy of appeasement with Middle East terrorists.  There is a reason why Bubba was so well liked oveseas - he works from the same propoganda playbook.  I will gladly take your wager regarding the Baker-Hamilton recommendations since they are basically the non-musical form of VH1's "I Love the 90's."

X - I agree with Mulerider. W

X - I agree with Mulerider. We are in this mess with Islamist radicals because Clinton and his feckless/clueless crew did not either have the foresight or backbone to confront these groups and their sponsors before 9/11 and after numerous attacks. If you took the time to read what the leaders of these groups have authored or said it would be evident that they count on weakness by western governments and their people. 

Two big differences between t

Two big differences between the Repubs that went over last week and Pelosi:

1) They went over in agreement with (and supporting) Pres Bush's foreign policy - Pelosi went with her own (contradicting) foreign policy.

2) The Repubs are NOT the Speaker of the House.

Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for. - Will Rogers

SouthJersey1953 -  you're go

SouthJersey1953 -  you're going to love this (as reported bt the AP)

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) met with Syrian President Bashar Assad today in Damascus. And according to the article, Issa criticized the administration while on the visit:

Commenting on Bush’s criticism, California Republican Darrell Issa said the president had failed to promote the necessary dialogue to resolve disagreements between the U.S. and Syria.

“That’s an important message to realize: We have tensions, but we have two functioning embassies,” Issa told reporters after separate meetings with Assad and his foreign minister, Walid al-Moallem

Ding

Ding,

I noticed you chose not to include a link to this AP article. Was it because you originally saw it at the far-left website Think Progress http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/05/breaking-republican-congressman-darrell-issa-currently-in-syria-for-talks/, and just cut-and-pasted directly from their report?

Regardless of the answer, if you had provided a link to the AP article in question (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/05/africa/ME-GEN-Syria-US.php), you might have noticed that much of it came from SANA, the Syrian government run news agency. Think there's a possibility they're presenting a propagandist side of Issa's statements, and there's more to this story than would be reported by the Syrian-run news agency?  

If this seems too conspiratorial, would you have taken Pravda's word for comments made by a member of Congress travelling to Moscow during the Cold War?   ns

Noel Sheppard - Yes, I used T

Noel Sheppard - Yes, I used Think Progress as the original source.

So you think SANA is wrong?  Did Darrell go to Syria a day after Pelosi?  Did he go acouple of days after Bush repeatedly said NO,  Congresscritters are going to send the wrong message?  Did SANA have that wrong, too (maybe Darrell wasn't even there, huh)?

Here you have all of these Republicans going to Syria, before and after Pelosi, but the neocons  are only publicly condemning Pelosi. Why is that?  Will Fred Hiatt have another editorial tomorrow about Darrell's visit to Syria?

dingbat - Pelosi intent and a

dingbat - Pelosi intent and actions crossed over fact finding and into the conducting of foreign affairs which is a violation of the Constitution.

Pelosi's intentions are foc

Pelosi's intentions are focused on losing the war. She, as well as other extremes in her party are attempting to implement legislation in order to strip Bush of his presidential powers. As in this situation, when unable, she simple ignores policy.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

There seems to be some projec

There seems to be some projecting going on here. If you read the AP article you are quoting, it says:

Congressman Darrell Issa of California said U.S. President George W. Bush had failed to promote the dialogue that is necessary to resolve disagreements between the United States and Syria.

"That's an important message to realize: We have tensions, but we have two functioning embassies," Issa told reporters after separate meetings with Assad and Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem.

The reporter is injecting opinion into this news story. Nowhere in the article does Issa say he is critical of the administration.

Meanwhile, on ISSA's English website, this story appears. Once again, nothing Issa says is being critical of the administration.

Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking is going on here.

Ding

Ding,

I thought so. Wouldn't it have been appropriate to cite them as you cut-and-pasted directly from their website?

Regardless, yes, I do think SANA might be wrong. Obviously, not about Issa being there, but potentially what he said about Bush. It would be political suicide for a Republican to make such statements about a Republican president to one of our enemies.

Unfortunately, in this politically caustic environment, it seems just fine for a Democrat to do it, with folks on the left such as yourself actually celebrating it rather than recognizing the danger and the potential lack of Constitutionality.  ns

Ding - You're missing the poi

Ding - You're missing the point of the issue at hand.  ANY member of Congress does not have the power to supplant President Bush's foreign policy and serve as an intermediary between Syria and Israel unless expressly advised through executive instruction.

I also reiterate Noel's comments in regards to quoting the official Syrian news agency, SANA.

&quot;Ding -  Your missing t

"Ding -  Your missing the point...." he does that alot here.

 Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

mulerider - Contary to the ne

mulerider - Contary to the neocon spin,  Pelosi is on a fact finding visit - not as an intermediary of Bush's forgien policy.  

dingbat - Pelosi crossed over

dingbat - Pelosi crossed over fact finding into conducting foreign affairs, particularly when she appointed herself a U.S. emissary to deliver a message from our ally in Israel to Assad, which ended up as an international incident because she could not even get the message right!

If you say it enough does it

If you say it enough does it come true?  I believe Gat did a more than adequate job of blowing holes in your assertion near the top of this page.

Gonzalez needs to charge Pelosi--

Gonzalez needs to charge Pelosi--unde Logan's Law. She violated that law and it carries penalties including a jail sentence of up to three years. My God, doesn't anybody in the Republican party have any fortitude anymore???

Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?

Sir Walter Scott

Hi misterb...Got to close out

Hi misterb...

Got to close out...

You may have seen already how I feel about this subject...have all day!

Catch you tomorrow!

Night...glad to see ya...take care of the small stuff...they are still slithering around!

LOL!

Oh darn, The President just

Oh darn, The President just can't have a peaceful Easter. That's too bad, how sad.

Why?  Please post a rational

Why?  Please post a rationale.

Warner Todd Huston - I can't

Warner Todd Huston - I can't wait for a WaPo editrial to get it exactly right about Issa

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) met with Syrian President Bashar Assad today [4/5/2007] in Damascus. And according to the article, Issa criticized the administration while on the visit.

see Noel's comment at 15:29.

see Noel's comment at 15:29. Look dingbat if you're going to make lunatic left wing remarks and have no facts to support then I would highly recommend Daily Kos where they have a policy of never letting facts stand in the way of good fiction.

I'm stunned!

I'm stunned!

Typical San Francisco!

This is the typical attitude and naivety of the left side of the bay.  It's not a real stunner, just a sad state.  Even the Post didn't buy into it.  Amazing!

Did the President authorize P

Did the President authorize Pelosi to deliver any message to Assad even from Israel? Isn't that conducting foreign affairs for the U.S.? If so, did Pelosi usurp the Constitutional powers granted only to the President?

&quot;The tools belong to the

"The tools belong to the man who can use them."

 Whether one calls the powers implied, inherent, incidental, or plenary, those tools are at the discretion of the President.

Yeah, great WaPo, but for eve

Yeah, great WaPo, but for every one of these there are thousands of inane, stupid, partisan attacks of this president and his administration. 

Meanwhile, you have to wonder what they are not reporting if they reckon that the trip was so ill advised.  Also, where were they when grandma Pelosi was about to launch on this ill fated adventure?

This article aside, I just have to comment on the scarf get up that grandma Pelosi is wearing.  She looks like the evil witch from Hansel and Gretel as seen here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansel_and_Gretel. lol

Nancy

Nancy  evidently believes her on press releases.

So the WaPo gets it. Foolish

So the WaPo gets it. Foolish is a mild term to use tho. Treasonist is a little more relative. To try to undermine the sitting administration and foment policy in foreign lands opposing the sitting president is treason. Least, in my book it is.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Loved the head scarf.  Alway

Loved the head scarf.  Always amused when these uber-feminists show their submissive side.  In fact, the scarf is optional in Syria, but there's something about Facism that turns some women into wimpering little slaves.

If this trip illustrates anything, its that it is always a mistake to put the children in charge.

PeskyDane - How is Pelosi bei

PeskyDane - How is Pelosi being a "child" for respecting the customs of the mosque she chose to visit? (btw , Condi, Laura and Karen Hughes also wore a scarf when visisting a mosque)

ding, this is like shooting f

ding, this is like shooting fish in a barrel.  Regarding Rice, Hughes and the First Lady - they were wrong too.

Pelosi is not a child for respecting customs, but for being in over her head.  In typical useful idiot fashion, she was recieved by one of our enemies and then in true child-like manner could not get to the microphones fast enough to gleefully and grossly exaggerated the sucess of her "mission."  Attempting to exceed her powers by conducting foreign policy particulary in the way she did are the actions of an attention whore, another example of child-like behavior.

Her tranparent attempt to show up the president reeks of adolecent behavior.

This woman and those who support her have a very naive worldview.  This world is a dangerous place, particularly beyond our borders, but she seems to think that if we are just "nice" and share our toys the world will suddenly love us.  Newsflash - our enemies hated us just as much under Clinton - recall all the attacks we put up with. 

I've got more, but I'm sure you get the idea.

its win win for Pelosi, lose

its win win for Pelosi, lose lose for America.  It was very foolish for her to go over there, underminding the executive branch.  She has no authority to promise anything (except things illegal like Gore's and Clinton taking in foreign money for campaign contributions for favors), but the media makes her out to be the great diplomat able to do what no "man" was able to do...bring peace to the middle east.  If no peace is gained, it doesn't matter, its her intention and effort.  Silly beauty pageant games do not belong in foreign affairs...foreign affairs is a serious poker / chess game where the stakes is blood and freedom.

CV..I do not think it is a wi

CV..

I do not think it is a win for Pelosi.

So far she has been made out to be a liar by everybody...well except for her late afternoon spin-doctors and the terrorists using her talking points.

She made a colossal fool of herself.

Been proven too...I have inserted a couple of links today about her lies...she is in deep doo-doo, people so not forget, and to think, she has only just begun.

she had better start wearing combat boots instead of heels, that shite is gettin' mighty deep for her already.

to me and you she will always

to me and you she will always be a big loser, but to her base and to the media (her base) it was win win.

That is correct, Syrian women

That is correct, Syrian women can and do dress "Western" - no need for scarves or burkas.  Speaker Pelosi even chose inappropriate dress for her seriously inappropriate trip.  

Is it possible Speaker Pelosi thought she was positioning herself for a presidential run?  You know - beefing up the international side of her resume, helping with peace in the Middle East, looking leaderly.

I thought the same thing re:

I thought the same thing re: NP's attire...totally unprofessional.  There she was sitting there with her bare legs off to the side as if she were posing for a woman's clothing catalog!  Don't know who she was trying to impress with the leg show, but she looked ridiculous!

iveseenitall

The WP and all media outlets should write these kinds of editorials if they don't want to continue to lose readership, but there is not much hope that they will. Liberals like Pelosie are making a circus out of our Constitution and the inherent separation of powers. Trips like hers lead to nothing but chaos and mixed messages to our friends and enemys alike. The MSM usually lets liberals get away with this kind of nonsense. The WP called them on it this time--big surprise.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

The grandmother advocate of a

The grandmother advocate of all women's rights looks like need to be rescued from this picture of being a slave to backward islamo-fasict government, who don't respect women's rights at all. Heck, she won't probably wear a headcover when she goes to her church, even if it is required, but humbly bowed to islam. She looked awful. Her mind got corrupted to the "power" she gain as "amisspeaker" of the house.

Can she be removed from her post. She can't be impeached, so removal by her fellow congressfolks would be the correct route. I'm dreaming right? Right...   

Even she is not immune to bei

Even she is not immune to being tossed under the bus.  The Dims have shown themselves to be quite capable of eating their own.  If the collective decides that she is hurting the party (hurting the country never enters into the equation), then she will be asked to quietly resign.  They are not above making a deal with the other side of the aisle and having a republican introduce a measure to call for a vote on her removal as speaker.

Regarless of their bluster, the Dims are very much aware that they hold a slim majority put there by a slim margin of votes.  

Possibility is more than equa

Possibility is more than equal to zero - the demolibs would then be admitting defeat - ain't gonna happen! Remember too, their slim margin is supported by some renegade, so-called repubs. Oh, and she would NOT go gently, nor quietly into that good night, BUT is would be great theater, and we've all paid for the tickets.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

...and we've all paid for the

...and we've all paid for the tickets.

Well said - someone's got to work that into a tagline somewhere down the road.  I was thinking about Jim Wright getting hounded out of the speaker's chair - I take it you don't think Grandma Nancy would go with quite the same dignity, eh?

SC - you really do miss that

SC - you really do miss that "chief's coffee" don't 'ya? If only paloony and friends would have some, THEY'D wake up, and stop consorting with the enemy. Maybe the babuska is preparation for the head shaving the french did to collaborators.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Ed, Reading from your posting

Ed, Reading from your postings, you remind me of my best shipmate aboard my last tour on a destroyer, and Ed was his name too. My time is up and am ready to go back to sea. I'll be looking for some Chiefs on our side- well, most of us almost think the same or the ship will "sink"- to run the show to support (and finish the war) our troops and our Commander-in-Chief.  Hey, we have the likes of pelosis onboard ships too, but ones they drank the "Chief's coffee" for some reason, they turn around.

Pelosi need to be sent to Captain's Mast (Admiral Mast) - that includes the other congressional delegates for usurping the authority of the C-in-C. Their activities are punishable under UCMJ.

  

Release of British

Some are saying she had had in release of British prisoners.  What fluff!  Anyone think it may have been because someone in the news said the US was going to attack Iran on Good Friday? 

When I first heard the report

When I first heard the report of her trip I was angred and disgusted at the arrogance of such a stunt.  Now, this business of speaking for Israel..  that takes the cake!  What authority does the President have in situations like this?  Can he call her on this and dress her down..  I mean officially, as a function of the office of the President? 

The Washington Post is exactl

The Washington Post is exactly right. We slam them when they get it wrong. We should commend them when they get it right. Nancy Pelosi's little trip is dangerous in its naivete.

Nancy Pelosi argues that we have to talk with people we don’t like, as if we were in a schoolyard. The purpose of diplomacy is not to get these people to like us, and then do us favors. It has nothing to do with feelings or high school style relationships. When a politician argues that we have to talk with people we don’t like, they’re betraying their own ignorance. Diplomacy isn’t "social skill" with other countries. Diplomacy is all about self-interest. We cooperate with countries when it serves both of our interests.

The argument against talking with Syria is that they have nothing we want. Instead, they work against us; funding terrorist groups and so on. They’re willing to talk because they want to trade their hostility for something from us. In fact, they create hostility as a bargaining chip to play. We would have to give them something of value in return for their promise to stop hurting us. Normally, we call that “extortion.” That’s why we don’t want to talk with them. It encourages extortion. It isn’t because they’re bad people and we’re too arrogant to get involved with them, as Nancy Pelosi is trying to argue. This isn’t a schoolyard. We don’t talk with them because we don’t want to reward their attempts at extortion. The Washington Post said it well.

OK...so who's the Republican

OK...so who's the Republican mole on the WP editorial board?

Nancy Palooza

Following in the footsteps of John F'n Kerry, in violation of the Logan Act.

Wonder if Congress has time to hold hearings in this regard. Sounds like a much more serious issue than the legal and Constitutional firing of 8 federal prosecutors.

Screw that, hearings would ne

Screw that, hearings would never get off the ground, and the media would'nt report the facts of them to the American people. Bush needs to talk to the Justice Department, get a special prosecutor and look into possible teason and violations of the Logan act, they should be able to dig up at least a few felonies on a legal fishing trip of herspeakerness. If it was a Dem in charge you know they wouldnt hesitate. We must fight fire with fire, or we will never keep up with them.

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. "

-Thomas Paine 1791

Here is another article in th

Here is another article in the JP....http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879247562&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

If this was the other way around the media, along with the opposite party would be screaming at the top of their lungs demanding answers for the Speaker of the House.

Democrats/leftists lie...that is all there is to it...they cannot help themselves...then they try to squirm and spin their way out of it when they get caught...

This whole pathetic ordeal with this empty-headed Queen Bee is despicable.

Talk about hypocrisy!

I'm wondering if we've missed

I'm wondering if we've missed the memo. All of a sudden, "unbiased" reports in 2 different media outlets in the last couple of days!? The compost today, ain't best communicator yesterday (Bagdad story) - looking like a "movement" to "report" a story they can point to and say - "See, we're not biased" - hummm.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Yeah, my spider-sense is ting

Yeah, my spider-sense is tingling also. Maybe they're preparing for a huge anti-conservative slam soon. Maybe the Gonzales hearings.

Still, when they do it right, we have to say so. Fair is fair.

First the Democrats in Cong

First the Democrats in Congress attempt to undermine the Constitution by usurping the Presidents authority as Commander in Cheif by trying to dictate what troops can be deployed and to where after authorization. Now, Pelosi herself attempts to step into the roles of both President and Secretary of State by traveling to the middle-east on a "diplomatic" mission wich is NOT authorized or even supported by the Executive branch. This is just outrageous! And on top of all that, she can't even relay messages from one of our most trusted and staunch allies to Syria, she has to substitute what she would prefer to relay! That is exactly how misunderstandings get turned into wars.

She is a meanace to this country and the rest of the world! SHE should be impeached for breach of her oath of office to Protect and defend the Constitution of these United States from all enemies both foreign and domestic. Pelosi is indeed a domestic enemy of the Constitution.

Get use to it. After Bush an

Get use to it. After Bush and Cheney are impeached she will be YOUR commander-in-chief.

blarson, you really need to kick that crack habbit.

Impeached for what? Because you libs disagree with the man? If your standard holds, the next time a democrat is president with a republican majority in the congress, that dem's presidency will last about five whole minutes.

Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. Get it?

This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.

Dave..Quite sure blars is try

Dave..

Quite sure blars is trying to contemplate what to say next...

That is after he comprehends what you posted...

If he does that is!

LOL!

bt,These libs just kill me.

bt,

These libs just kill me. They never, ever stop to consider the long-term (or the near term, for that matter) consequences of their actions. They just do not seem to grasp that what can be used against republicans can easily be turned around and used against them. You would think that would prevent them from setting such stupid precedents.

Amazing their utter lack of any linear logic whatsoever. They really do live only in the moment.

Besides, presidents get to appoint their vp's anyway, so, even if they were able to impeach Bush and Cheney, which they can't, Nasty the defector Peloser still wouldn't be president.

This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.

Yep Dave..It is astonishing,

Yep Dave..

It is astonishing, I just heard Murtha on CNN spewing his usual get tough with Bush act...we are going to force him to end this war tripe!(Guess they are going to have the full interview on later here soon...do not know if I can take it)

I despise that creature.

Pay backs and back-fire are not something they seem to understand...they are digging a hole and will not know when to stop digging...

Until we bury them!

bt,If they keep going they

bt,

If they keep going they way they are, they are going to bury themselves.

Well, I'm gonna head home home and watch some of The Masters and grill up some fresh Polish sausages. Ummmm, cholestorol.

Chow.

This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.

Dave R...Enjoy!I had that two

Dave R...

Enjoy!

I had that two days ago, just not grilled outside, not warm enough quite yet...I love the cholesterol...mine were Italian sausages though this time!

I'm getting off here for awhile too...more to get done and actually getting warm enough up here to sit outside and soak up some sun today..which is exactly what I am going to do!

Dave,That used to be my bigge

Dave,

That used to be my biggest frustration with the libs until I finally came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter to them what happens tomorrow.  Why would they worry about setting precedents when they lack the belief in principles?  They are party relative, not party absolute. 

So if by chance the libs are ever called out to explain their hypocrisy at a later date (which the MSM has proven never to allow), they simply contort their spine toward the nearest focus group and continue on.  Ted Kennedy is the godfather of this strategy and he has never had to anser for his blatant record of contradictions.

Dave R and Radio

Dave...

He still has never came back and answered.

You hog-tied him with the be careful what you wish for part...he has been stymied ever since.

Mulerider, boy have you got that right about Kennedy and his strategy the dems have followed forever...Mary Jo never had accountability now did she?

edit>Apologies to Radio and mulerider for mixing you guys up in above post!

LOL!

Extra special mixture today,

Extra special mixture today, Blarsen?

Only in your silly little dre

Only in your silly little dreams blars.

La-La Land is where you live.

Snap out of it...save yourself!

Before it's too late...

Hey, B, Bush is YOUR and MY

Hey, B, Bush is YOUR and MY COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, get used to it!!

"Before I refuse to take your questions...I have a statement.." Ronald Reagan

Nancy Pelosi

Nancy Pelosi and the message that wasn’t. How typical it is of a Democrat to proclaim something that never happened. Unfortunately, we see it done daily in Congress and in the MSM.

Pelosi is on a one-woman appeasement crusade, traveling throughout the Middle East, scarf-on-head, using her feminine wiles to turn thugs and murders into compliant pussy cats. I bet if you open the dictionary to the word ‘naiveté’, you’ll find her picture there.

With her fellow stooges, she has set up a shadow U.S. government with the sole purpose of undermining it during war time. I wonder whose picture you’ll find in the dictionary next to the word ‘traitor’ ?

Thanks for the info. I went r

Thanks for the info. I went right over to the Wash. Post website and gave them kudos for getting something right. Maybe if we praise them a little they will try to be more objective in the future. A girl can dream can't she?

San Fran Nan Queen for a Day

The Pelosi Palooza Grandma Potentate Traveling Circus rolls on and the world is now a gawk as this new American fool attempts to take the stage.  Not to worry the patriots at the Peoples Progressive Politburo of Sorros and Kos will smear the critics.

Ouch, WaPo just b*tchslapped

Ouch, WaPo just b*tchslapped the grandma of the house. I may have to have this editorial goldplated.

Right-wing Rag!

Right-wing Rag!

Don't worry, Minney Mouth and the rest of the refugees from Disneyland that lead Congress won't miss a beat.

other members of Congress hav

other members of Congress have gone to Danascus recently, but of course you people continue to lambast Pelosi only - there needs to be more DIPLOMACY in the world today - how do you think Blair got the sailors back? I think we have had quite enough of Bush's cowboy 'my way or the highway' diplomacy - see where it's gotten us?
Darrell Issa, a Republican!!, is over there right now, and I quote, Issa, " looks forward to continuing the dialogue with Syria on issues of concern to both countries" endquote
wake up people - talking to our 'enemies ' is, sometimes, the way to go

katlee,Are you a total idiot

katlee,

Are you a total idiot when it comes to foreign affairs?  Why did Iran release the 52 hostages on the day Reagan became President?  Its same reason that they released Britain's hostages.  They knew that Blair meant business and that if they didn't release them, they were going to face the British army and navy.  Did the Soviet Union collapse because of years of diplomacy?  No.  They fell apart trying to compete with our strength.  There is no such thing as diplomacy without strength.  What Pelosi was doing was appeasement.  I don't know what she offered Assad, but I can guarantee you that the government of Israel would not have approved it.  Syria and Iran are terrorists nations.  Don't you get that?  What is wrong with you?

Katlee - the word that comes

Katlee - the word that comes to mind is naive. There is an enormous difference between a fact finding mission and actually attempting to conduct foreign affairs for the United States. The former is a common practice. The latter is illegal under the Constitution unless it has to direct approval of the President. You people, who are about to be formally walk away from the Global War on Terror, clearly don't get the fact that we are at war whether you dillusional idiots choose to believe it or not - and it is on many fronts in many ways. The President is in charge of national security and protecting us from foreign enemies. Among our enemies are radical Islamic fundamentalists and the countries that sponsor them and support them. Among those countries are Syria and Iran. You do not negotiate with terrorists or with the countries that support these terrorists otherwise you legitimize and condone their actions. What Pelosi did was counter-productive. What she did in communicating a message from our ally, Israel, to Assad without the President's approval may have been illegal. What truly compounds this is how badly she botched the communique and placed Israel in an embarassing situation. For that she should be impeached.

Yeah well, two U.S. carrier g

Yeah well, two U.S. carrier groups preping for action in the Gulf made Iran's butt pucker so hard that 15 British sailors popped out. Bozo the Congresswoman's antics only strenghtened the Islamists' resolve by showing what a bunch of idiots the leaders of Congress are.

Voters need to be reminded of

Voters need to be reminded of this episode next year as they decide who can run the country best.  This is a major screw up yet very few in the MSM are presenting it that way.

Try again

Katlee, would you do me the favor of showing me in the Constitution where members of Congress, most particularly the House, have the authority and the power to negotiate with any foreign power. In addition, would you should me, in the Constitution, what power the House has concerning treaties, ambassadors, etc.? While you're at it, why don't you show me in the Constitution exactly what powers the Speaker of the House has, in terms of any of the aforementioned instances.

The only person that has authority to discuss foreign policy is the president, or those who "deputizes" to act in his stead: the Secretary of State and various ambassadors. Nancy Pelosi went to Syria specifically to thumb her nose at Bush -- no other reason. Any Congressman that heads to another country to attempt to "open a dialogue" or any other such nonsense, is violating the Constitution, and should be impeached and removed immediately.

"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"

talking to our 'enemies ' i

talking to our 'enemies ' is, sometimes, the way to go

Tell that to Neville Chamberlain, who believed that right up until Hitler invaded Poland.

This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.

katlee: Ms. Pelosi was electe

katlee: Ms. Pelosi was elected to represent a portion of the population of the State of California. She was chosen by her party to be the Speaker of the House. She has never been appointed to any position in the Dept. of State and has no authority within the definition of her position as a representative of the people of San Fran to present herself as some sort of ambassador for the people of the U.S. or the President. She is not a diplomat and has no business pretending to represent U.S. foreign policy or attempting to broker any sort of agreements with or between our sworn enemies. She is an embarrassment. And because of her actions should be required to step down from her position as Speaker of the House. We are a nation governed by laws. Not by the whims of contrarians like J. Carter and Granny Pelosi.

P.S. If you wish to consider what the most recent hostage situation in Iran was all about, I recommend a careful reading of this report. If you honestly think that the Pres. of Iran "changed his mind" because of some sort of diplomatic overture from Tony Blair, you don't understand the sort of people we're dealing with here.

BTW, what Pres. Bush's terrorism policies has gotten us is almost 6 years of freedom from attack.

Spot on, QM!

Spot on, QM!

A simple question, requires a

A simple question, requires a very simple answer: Do you believe our enemies when they tell us they want to kill us? Assad is a supporter and supplier of arms to known terrorists, by association he wants to kill us too.

And, do you not see or know, through your own biased hatred of the president, that the terrorists attacked us? Unlike muslim fanatics, no matter how radical our own homegron wacko religious nuts become, they don't go around beheading people who only disagree with their way of thinking.

As far as Issa is concerned, he was asking the "hard" questions, something that paloony couldn't do - 'tis a physiological thing.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Pelosi's trip

Pelosi  has overstepped her authority with Syria. I just read that former President Jimmy 'Peanut' Carter said the White House ordered him to not go over there. Thank God he was stopped going around trying to act like the President. He did nothing when he was President, and has no right to interfer with the current administration. I hope Pelosi is investigated, or there is legal action that can be taken for her over stepping the limits of her position and authority!  I hope she can be impeached.

Ya'll are missing the bigger

Ya'll are missing the bigger and more important question here:   Was Nancy's plane big enough to carry herself and her entourage on a non-stop flight to said Syria?

I just learned that the ter

I just learned that the terrorists are endorsing Pelosi's dialogue.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

Wouldn't expect anything diff

Wouldn't expect anything different..after-all they have been doing that with the leftist talking points for years now.

Something for her to be very proud of....

Ahhhh..the enemy within strikes again!

With friends like these who needs enemies?

I challenge any troll to name

I challenge any troll to name a time when talking to our enemies netted long-term lasting peace.  The only way to have peace in our time is defeat these dictator/terrorist states and replace them with democracies.  That is not to say that it always has to be a military solution, but diplomacy just won't work.  These enemies cannot be trusted any further than they can be thrown.

Apparently Pelosi does no

Apparently Pelosi does not have enough on her plate such that she feels compelled to do Rice’s
job too. It looks like the Democrats are attempting a coup to also become the
executive branch. The term law makers no longer apply.

Nancy just cant get enough at

Nancy just cant get enough attention in life, so she had to go to the middle east and get attention. And she even screwed that up screwing that up. What kind of woman is she any way? She cant even get the gossip right. What an absolute moron.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Memo to Washington Post employees

Contrary to all you've been told by the vast LEFT wing conspiracy, the same
on the Right is really, really (non) vast. Like, uh, it's tiny. In reality, there are very
few right-wing wacko media jobs. If you already have your resume in at Fox News
and the Washington Times, that pretty well covers it.

If you had a hand in writing this excellent, factual and truth filled op-ed,
what ever were you thinking? You have to feed your family first! Jobs at
the Penny Shopper just don't pay that well and the gala media and "beautiful
people and big shot politicians" parties in Omaha are pretty boring.

You DO have an out before that pink slip makes its way to your in-box. The
guys running the presses screwed up and ran your April Fool's op-ed on the wrong
day! Grab your Macs and start typing - fast! You can still make the late
edition! Again, what WERE you thinking?

Normall Sycophant Media

It seems the Democrats, and Ms. Pelosi, aren't doing well with their media wing. The Post has laid into them twice, in the past 2 weeks, a pleasant surprise.  Also, last week, came an editoral by Cynthia Tucker, no right wing zealot, criticizing the Democrats on their Iraq votes:

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/stories/2007/03/31/0401edtuck.html

I'm posting the link for those who didn't catch this.  Granted, Ms. Tucker does take the time to get in the normal slams at the President and his administration, but it's still a shock to see any criticism of this party, considering the Silence of the Lambs, during the last election.

Does anyone get the idea that some, in the media, are sending a message to the Dems that they've carried their water long enough and the times are changing?

“We came in friendship, h

“We came in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace,” Ms. Pelosi grandly declared.

The Road to Damascus is a landmark the bomber pilots can use to make sure they are still on course.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!