'Early Show' Implies McCain has Skewed Sense of Reality on Iraq

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The April 4 edition of CBS’s "The Early Show" covered Republican Senator and presidential candidate John McCain’s visit to Iraq implying he has a skewed sense of reality. Anchor Russ Mitchell introduced the segment that the Arizona Senator "seems to be stumbling a bit of late" because he "went to Iraq" and "said he saw some progress."

Before playing McCain’s optimistic sound bite, correspondent Martin Seemungal reported that McCain had been in Baghdad for "just a few hours." After playing another positive word from Congressman Mike Pence (R-Ind), Seemungal responded that "the reality on the ground is anything but peaceful" and some residents claimed "it took a massive military operation to give the congressmen that sense of security."

After implying McCain sees the situation in Iraq in a warped fashion, perhaps Seemungal missed the report that violence has dropped significantly since President Bush announced the surge, which ABC even picked up. Additionally, the soldiers themselves claim that the media does not tell the whole story. The entire transcript is below.

RUSS MITCHELL: The campaign of presidential hopeful John McCain seems to be stumbling a bit of late. The Senator went to Iraq over the weekend and said he saw progress, starting with being able to move around on foot in Baghdad, but some Iraqis have a different take on McCain's visit. CBS' Martin Seemungal has more.

MARTIN SEEMUNGAL: After just a few hours in Baghdad, Republican Senator John McCain was eager to share his first impressions.

SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN (R-AZ): Things are getting better in Iraq and I am pleased at the progress that has been made.

SEEMUNGAL: Leading a congressional delegation to Baghdad's oldest market over the weekend, Senator McCain crowed about the safety of the city since the American troop surge.

MCCAIN: Never have I been able to go out into the city as I was today.

SEEMUNGAL: Representative Mike Pence said Baghdad central souq was

REPRESENTATIVE MIKE PENCE (R-IN): like a normal outdoor market in Indiana in the summertime.

SEEMUNGAL: If you look at it from this side of the river it actually does look pretty serene. But the reality on the ground is anything but peaceful. People live in constant fear of suicide bombers and snipers. Across the river, shopkeepers say that it took a massive military operation to give the congressmen that sense of security. "McCain was not alone when he came here and walked around," he says. "The military had sealed off the area for a mile in every direction." Although soldiers are gone now, the market is back to normal. But business is slow. People are afraid to come back to the market that's been attacked so many times. "McCain came with a whole army" Ayad Hassan said. "They asked a few questions and left, but we're no safer." For safety to stick, there is only one real solution. Those soldiers would have to spend more than just a few hours on this street. Martin Seemungal, for CBS News, Baghdad.

Update: ABC video on improved Iraqi situation here

—Justin McCarthy is a news analyst at Media Research Center.


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Oh, how quickly they turn on

Oh, how quickly they turn on you. Huh, Senator?

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris...Makes one wonder just

Chris...

Makes one wonder just what he really expected?

Too funny!

Btw...as an aside I just get sick and tired of hearing the consensus against McCain and his problem with his polling numbers is about his stance on this war...the leftist media can repeat this all they want...everyone knows the reason is because he is a RINO in most instances, not a maverick...he was a fool to think conservatives would forget.

I thank him for sticking to his guns about the war...but not enough to vote for him...unless it was the only choice I had.

BT,I suppose McCain was saili

BT,

I suppose McCain was sailing with the MSM winds of,  "Any enemy of W's is a friend of our's". Unfortunately for McCain (in addition to his support of the War), he was the 2000 Flavor of the Year. Now, they have no use for him. I suppose that's why they eagerly await the candidacy of (cack-gag) Hagel. With his hateful opposition to the War and Bush, why, he's a shoo-in for the GOP nomination, right? :)

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

You would think

Using conventional Wisdom one would think that given McCain's general center-left stance on many issues that his support for the war would give his opinion more weight, the same could have been said about Lieberman.

Wow, Speaking of Lieberman, has that guy fallen off the face of the earth since he left the party of "god" (That being the small g, no I am not being blasphemous to the real GOD).

The lefty MSM loves to find the Republicans who rock the boat and go against the prevailing wisdom of their party and call them Mavericks and Speaking Truth to Power. But when someone does that to the Dems, SILENCE.

...congrats John, now NOBODY

...congrats John, now NOBODY on either side of the aisle likes you...

Good luck with that presidential run thingy:)!

Too Quickly Chris

I was listening to a couple lefties who are on the radio here in Boston.

They were commenting on how McCain has "Slipped" lately and is now "cowtowing" (Sp?) to the "radical" right-wing of the party to get the nomination.

They were talking about how in 2000 he had the "Straight-Talk" express and how he was no longer "Straight-talking" and had gone over to the right.

It's amazing how with lefties you can't have a position on Iraq that's positive that's isn't lying.

The Ideaology that states there are no "Absolutes" once again has spoken absolutely.

Global Warming caused by man - Fact
Born Homosexual - Fact
Iraq unwinnable - Fact

Don't argue with any liberal on these Facts because the Truth is incontrovertible

You'll have to remember, Jo

You'll have to remember, John was locked up in a locker for five years, anything beats that.

So begins the labeling of J

So begins the labeling of John Mcain as an out of touch old guy. This is Bob Dole the sequel. Don't forget to watch Rudy tonight on CNN call for public funding for abortion.

The Violence Dropping Meme

The claim that "violence has dropped significantly" in Iraq begs for further review when considering the merits of this post. Unfortunately, the link provided reports a short term drop in violence for only one week and only in Baghdad. To state the obvious this is not proof that "violence has dropped significantly" in Iraq. Close to a thousand have died in the last few weeks in Iraq . "Violence dropped significantly" in the first few weeks after the surge in Baghdad. Violence has not "dropped significantly" in Iraq since the surge began, far from it. There are many examples - very bloody reports. One must consider these facts when evaluating Senator McCain's position.

So alfredo..How doyou feel ab

So alfredo..

How doyou feel about the war on terror period..you know the enemy?

Iraq or elsewhere?

Just curious....

I am in and out all day and most likely this evening.

Alfredo:Actually, the drop ha

Alfredo:

Actually, the drop has been occuring since the first US and Iraqi units have moved into the Bagdhad metropolitan area.  I might remind you that only 2 of five Brigade Combat Teams have even arrived in country as of this post and already there is a drop in violence in the targeted area.

Why is this?  Mainly because terrorists on the whole are cowardly and prefer to hit easy soft targets and run for safety.  If there is a chance they will be scooped up they will move to greener pastures which is happening.  THose not moving are being reported by the populace and getting picked up.

BD...Looks like another cut a

BD...

Looks like another cut and runner...

I've been wiating for his answer for quite awhile now...

LOL!

Hi bigtime - I'm not a cut an

Hi bigtime - I'm not a cut and runner. I can explain it to you in detail later if you would like. You may not like what I have to say as it's complicated and breaks from the party line. One thing to think about is that withdraw of our military is not the end of the game, we can continue to try to defeat the enemy through intelligence and other means. Ie. a traditional army performing a traditional campaign is not the only way to win this. As some perceptive posters here have deduced - our enemy is not traditional - so it's ok to go about defeating them with non-traditional means. I hope these comments don't go too far over your head.

Condesention is unbecoming.....

Plenty of people can be condesending.  It never means that they actually know, or don't know, what they are talking about.  But from the point of view of someone who has three brothers in the region now, as well as a brother in law, and who served as well, pulling ground troops from Iraq before the mission is accomplished is a loss.  Plain and simple.  Call it whatever you like.  Condesend to me as well if you feel you must.  But it will still be a moral victory, as well as a physical one, for the insurgency.  It will prove to them that America no longer has a backbone.  It will prove to them that as long as they keep doing what they are doig, we will cave in to impatience and a weak stomach.  It will cement everything thay already believe about us, an it will embolden them to go farther.

I am so sick of the "there are better ways to win" group ignoring the fact that victory is impossible without ground troops.  While some things need to change, and intelligence needs improvement, I don't see you spoutng anything but ambiguities, and certainly nothing useful. 

Let me ask you, in what other conflict has a dated withdrawl been a priority.   Only Viet Nam, which we lost, by the way.  We still reside in Texas, Korea, Japan, and Germany.  So if you want to right the great wrongs of imperialism, why not start with Texas?  Because this isn't about imperialism, or winning, or any other "nobel" idea.  This is about politics, and that is truly why we have not already won.

- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints - 

Things are getting worse in

Things are getting worse in Iraq, 12 of our soldiers killed in the first four days of April.
"Things are getting better" is just another lie. I'm sure most Americans will agree with me.
You people just keep drinking more and more Kool-Aid.
If the Bush spin team, Fox News et al, admitted the truth, and the
thick headed lying President vetoed the Dem deadline bill, the Dems
with 80% of the American people behind them would impeach Bush and
Cheney.

01...LMAO!Be original would y

01...

LMAO!

Be original would ya!

Talkin' points are old from you leftist whining trolls...just earning your pay are ya' ?

At least you bring comic relief here..so for that I thank you.

90210 and his leftist buddies are invested in defeat

It's obvious that the leftists are invested in defeat in Iraq.  They don't want Iraq to become stable for their own selfish purposes.  If we are successful there, the Democrat Party will be set back for years and they know it. 

Not only that, but it will pu

Not only that, but it will put the lie to their entire lives which are based on the abandonment of South Vietnam in 1968-1975.

Please quantify that the leve

Please quantify that the level of violence in the Bagdhad Metropolitan area is not decreasing.  Use current data please and make assessments with a rationale.

No need, nor desire to impeach the president or Vice President.  I think they are doing about all that could be expected with resources at hand.

THIS IS THE TROLL ALERT SYSTEM. THIS IS NOT A TEST!

New names, same old Trollish remarks.

Holy crap! I'm voting for Rud

Holy crap! I'm voting for Rudy! Dead man walking.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

You're on a roll today kid,

You're on a roll today kid,
"page not found" error when you try to view the video.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Rudy's Done

Well that takes him off my list.

A Constitutional Right? I guess it must be written in invisible ink because I don't see it.

It is a "right" imposed by Judicial Fiat, not given by The Constitution.

I suppose we should have federal funding for suicides for poor people too.
Maybe even crack subsidies.....

DUMB.

Anyone remember "Bagda

Anyone remember "Bagdad Bob" from the early part of the Iraq war? He said in effect, no American tanks were rolling into Bagdad. When in reality, an American tank could have rolled right by behind him during that outside press conference.

Well it seems the MSM will deny any positive results now in a similar way. McCain can talk 'til he's blue in the face about progress. They choose not to believe it.

because it's not trueduh

because it's not true

duh

Troll alert!They've arrived.

Troll alert!

They've arrived.

They are here 24/7...Best thi

They are here 24/7...

Best thing is not feeding there excessive hunger most times if it can be helped.

Throw a little tid-bit now and then but don't allow them to derail great debate and conversation along with absolutely great info some of us learn just from other great posters here that the msm doesn't tell us...

It is just what they want.

Can't let them win now can we?

April 3, 2007Lorry bomb kills

April 3, 2007Lorry bomb kills children in schoolJames Hider in Baghdad

A newborn baby was one of at least 14 children and adults killed when a suicide bomber detonated a lorry laden with explosives close to a primary school in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk yesterday.

The latest massacre of Iraqi children came as 21 Shia market workers were ambushed, bound and shot dead north of the capital. The victims came from the Baghdad market visited the previous day by John McCain, the US presidential candidate, who said that an American security plan in the capital was starting to show signs of progress.

- The Times

A few more victories such as this and we'll be undone.

Does this mean NOTHING good

Does this mean NOTHING good happened today in Iraq? You wouldn't have answer to that, would you?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

It's little frankie MM...You

It's little frankie MM...

You really would expect nothing less would ya?

BT, little frankie needs a

BT, little frankie needs a serious attitude adjustment. Scours the internet for bodies to parade around a conservative blog like this. I can almost see the glee in his eyes as he comes across the latest blood and guts article. "See NB scum, see the bodies! These are bush's bodies!". He must have serious depression on the days he can't find enough bodies to throw in our face. Lithium time I guess.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

J Frank thinks that...Because

J Frank thinks that...

Because the J-wee in Darfur slaughter families - the US is bad.

Because the Hezzies rocket Isreali towns from from Lebanese civilian communities instead of coming out and fighting in accordance with civilized rules - the US is bad.

Because members of the Abu Sayyaf behead helpless victims on Basilan Island - the US is bad.

Because the AQ kill reporters trying to do stories on them in Pakistan - the US is bad.

Because the Iraqi insurgents plant explosives in market places in Najaf - the US is bad.

Because Iran seizes UK sailors/marines and displays them on TV to their populaous in violation of the Geneva accords - the US is bad.

Make sense?  No, it takes plenty of "Therapy" to get to the point J Frank has...

Of course some good things ha

Of course some good things happened in Iraq.  Some good things happened when Saddam Insane was in charge.

On balance, do more good than bad things happen?  Would more good things happen if the US left and stopped being a target?  Was Sen. McCain's photo op worth the price?

Sen. McCain walks into a market with air support and a company guarding him and then tells us things in town are getting better.  That's not a realistic position to maintain.  Just ask the 21 people who didn't come to work at that market today...

"That's not a realisti

"That's not a realistic position to maintain"

Things are getting better if a year ago, 42 people didn't make it home from the market. Why don't you check that out and get back to us.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

So the bad guys forcing civil

So the bad guys forcing civilians to line up  and shooting them in the head while we searc the streets for them is somehow OUR fault?

I guess I will pull all federal law enforcement agents out of DC since people are also being murdered  there.

You do not respond to evil with weakness....

Jfrank wilson, I think I sa

Jfrank wilson, I think I saw a picture from that attack of two little girls crying with dried blood on them. My heart really broke when I saw that. I'm crying as I write this. So you think this is the time to turn tail and run away? No way never! We'll fight them for what inhumane things they've done! We should do even more. This is no time to lay the blame on us for their actions. What happened to your moral compass? Do you loose it?

It's nice and tight, thank yo

It's nice and tight, thank you very much!

J Frank:You do not run from a

J Frank:

You do not run from a fight with murdering thugs who slaughter innocents for naked power.  You send in patrols to locate the bad guys, find them, and ambush them - bayonetting them as you pass over the killzone at the first whistle.

It is very morally refreshing....

BD

BD, surely you jest. jfrank and the rest of his spineless appeasing buddies would definitely run from the fight just like they have been since this war started. That is their nature..they are cowards and have always been. "Let's just talk", is their way....as the machete slices their head off.....

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

Something interesting, a coup

Something interesting, a couple of months ago while at a gym watching the Aerobic room video monitor, a video clip was shown on TV filmed from the insrugent perspective of an Iraqi armed with an RPG engaging a US armor unit on a street in Sadr city (NOT SMART).

THe US unit hit him with a burst of 7.62mm coax fire and he flopped, stunned to the ground in a sitting position with the RPG laying across his lap.

For a second, nothing happened, but then the Iraqi moved the RPG and a second burst was fired killing him instantly.

A young college kid nearby responded angrily "They did not have to do that to him."

It dawned on me after reflection that the populous today is so removed from the concept of combat as a whole and what it involves that they have no stomach for it anymore.

THat imagery was rare.  When was the last time CNN, NBC, or CBS has shown video of an enemy engaged by fire?  Hell, CNN has shown imagery of US troops being killed by snipers, but not the converse because that is somehow "Wrong".

BD

That's about par for the course from one of our fine young stupid indoctrinated college students that at their age they have hit that highwater plateau in life where they know everything. Too much playin of video games and watching too much tv. Pathetic

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

BD, I saw the same clip. A

BD, I saw the same clip. And my reaction was: Way to go guys! Good job!

Now maybe a few differences between me and mr. "works out with a hangover" is that I have actually been in the military and as a youngster saw the dailys from Vietnam on TV.

I have a theory about this. I think that the younger generation consider our troops like Hollywood cops and they should be making arrests intead of killing people. What they don't understand is that Hollywood is not a WAR zone but Iraq is!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Concur on the theory that the

Concur on the theory that they consider war to be a law enforcement exercise.  THey have watched WAY to many episodes of "Law and Order" and assume that we need probable cause to engage a band of bad guys in a camp in the surrounding hills, telling them to throw up their hands and come along peaceably.

And what is sad is tha the latest tv shows such as Star Trek the next generation usually show the hero preventing open conflict by "reasoning with the bad guys."  Makes me pine for the good old days of James T Kirk.  Our enemies do not watch such stuff, they watch films in which the heroes detonate explosives amongst the population of their enemies and go to meet allah wrapped in white robes.

BD,Wasn't it Michael Ware who

BD,

Wasn't it Michael Ware who supplied the snuff film to CNN?

These liberals are truly insane. 

Do they believe our enemy is some sort of common burglar (as if that little bit of trash doesn't deserve to be blown away?)

What do they not understand about destroy your enemy?

Destroy.  Annihilate.  Kill.  Obliterate.

Why do they continue to believe that "conversation" is an option?

I'm becoming more and more discouraged on a daily basis by the idiots who inhabit my country.  Pelosi.  Murtha.  Hillary.  Obama.

I keep shaking my head....but my vision of the world isn't clearing at all.

Blonde:I have no idea, I saw

Blonde:

I have no idea, I saw the film only once and have not seen it since then.

As I was describing earlier in my post a moment ago, our films have a nasty way of moving public opinion in the manner in which the film makers desire.  I once listened to an author and veteran of vietnam describe how as a kid in the 1950's he was taught by our films that the bad guys never shoot the bad guy first:

1.)  THey await him the draw first and somehow, luckily, fire more accurately.

2.)  THey always provide ample warning when they are going to shoot bychatting up the bad guy for a few minutes before awaiting paragraph 1 above.

3.)  THey never shoot the bad guys from ambush or "heaven forbid" shoot the bad guy in the back.

THe author remarked that the bad guys in Vietnam had no such films to modify THEIR behavior and it required a bit of work to change the mindset of his troops..

BD,I was having a good day.I

BD,

I was having a good day.

I am mortified, and totally speechless...at how the libs so carefully cap the bad guys.

I am so totally tired of all of the liberal idiocy that goes on....on a day to day basis.

I suspect I need to take a break...before I have a break...if you get my drift.

Sheesh!

Not a problem Blonde:When I g

Not a problem Blonde:

When I get in that mood I usually sing the ending song of the Monty Python Movie "Life of Bryan" entitled "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" and that never fails to bring a smile to my face

Thanks, BD.On that note, I am

Thanks, BD.

On that note, I am out!

BD, there is a quote attribut

BD, there is a quote attributed to Doc Holliday that, "The best weapon in a gun-fight is a sawed-off shotgun from ambush."  Of course, I've never heard that line in any movie about the gun-fight at the OK corral...or any other western movie, for that matter.

But, if you watch any news video of real cops responding to a commercial burglary or robbery or hostage call, they approach with their weapons drawn.  The quick draw as depicted in the movies is a myth.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

When I was in the infantry 15

When I was in the infantry 15 years ago, we used to have a saying that

"a shotgun is the most terrifying weapon not dropped by an aircraft."

8 June 1944 - French Civilian

8 June 1944 - French Civilians are massacred by retreating German forces in Normandy.

So, what is your point J Frank.   THe bad guys kill civilians, nothing surprising about that - I guess I shall update the history books to reflect it.....

BTW the pic in the newspape

BTW the pic in the newspaper that I referred to was The Washington Post from tuesday's edition. It may have been The Washington times that same day. Just so you get to see the pic that broke me in some ways. Some at MRC already know.

So now "diversity" gives radical Islam a free pass here...interesting.