Leonardo DiCaprio: Humans Have Had a Devastating Impact on our Planet

Photo of Noel Sheppard.

Vanity Fair has just released its second annual “Green Issue.” This year, actor Leonardo DiCaprio was prominently placed on the cover -- captured by famed photographer Annie Leibovitz no less -- standing at the Jökulsárlón glacier lagoon in southeast Iceland perfectly looking the part as Hollywood's foremost concerned environmentalist.

In the featured piece, DiCaprio was labeled “The Man of the Hour,” and the following excerpt of his soon to be released documentary “The 11th Hour” was offered to the unsuspecting public (emphasis added throughout):

So, we find ourselves on the brink. It's clear humans have had a devastating impact on our planet's ecological web of life.

Wow. We’ve had a devastating impact on this planet? Devastating? Really? DiCaprio continued his sermon:

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Because we've waited, because we've turned our backs on nature's warning signs, and because our political and corporate leaders have consistently ignored the overwhelming scientific evidence, the challenges we face are that much more difficult. We are in the environmental age whether we like it or not. So, what does the future look like? We know the United States, the greatest consumer and source of waste, needs to make a transition to a greener future, but will our pivotal generation create a sustainable world in time? What will guide this massive change? And does nature hold the answers we need to help restore our planet's resources, protect our atmosphere, and therefore help all life survive?

Vanity Fair then predictably quoted anthropogenic global warming believer after believer, not offering the opinion of one scientist currently on record with a contrary view. Here was one from environmentalist Paul Hawken:

The problem that confronts us is that every living system in the biosphere is in decline and the rate of decline is accelerating. There isn't one peer-reviewed scientific article that's been published in the last 20 years that contradicts that statement. Living systems are coral reefs. They're our climatic stability, forest cover, the oceans themselves, aquifers, water, the conditions of the soil, biodiversity. They go on and on as they get more specific. But the fact is, there isn't one living system that is stable or is improving. And those living systems provide the basis for all life

Not one, huh Paul?

Disgracefully, Vanity Fair offered not one scientific view to the contrary. Not one.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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I don't suppose anyone would

I don't suppose anyone would happen to know how many homes DiCaprio has and how big they are?  No doubt he lives in a modest rambler in a middle class neighborhood, drives a Prius and wouldn't even consider traveling by private jet.

John,He also shared a ride on

John,

He also shared a ride on a tour bus to the Glacer, wouldn't even consider traveling by helicopter. 

Ain't that (photo shopped) polar bear cute!

I'd like to see Leo stuck bet

I'd like to see Leo stuck between that polar bear cub and it's mother and then ask him if he still thinks nature is as fragile as he thinks it is.

"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.

Doc:That photo is obviously e

Doc:

That photo is obviously either staged or shopped. The cub is too healthy looking to be without a mother. If it had a mother, Leo would be hamburger meat if he got that close to it. Unless, of course, the hypocritical lefties shot the mother to stage the picture. You know how they are....ends justifying the means....

"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Here is a video tour of his h

Here is a video tour of his house, interesting use of recycled material and bamboo.   Here is a picture of his estate and it's entrance, I mean house no idea on the square footage but from the pictures it's big.  The problem here is the size of the house, like Al Gore he has to use AC to maintain the temperature and humidity, air conditioning is proportional to square footage, therefore the larger the house the greater the electric use.  So unless he gets off the electric grid, he can make all the claims about using recycled materials he wants, he is still consuming the planet and pumping large quantities of CO2 for his activities.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

dscott,video tour of some one

dscott,

video tour of some one elses home.. lots of use of NATURAL non toxic stuff blah blah.. Just remember that a SNAKE BITE IS NATURAL.

No Peer Review? I don't think so!

Peer-Review Papers Disputing Man-Made Global Warming Theory:

A Millennium Scale Sunspot Reconstruction: Evidence For an Unusually Active Sun Since the 1940's
(Physical Review Letters 91, 2003)
- Ilya G. Usoskin, Sami K. Solanki, Manfred Schüssler, Kalevi Mursula, Katja Alanko

A test of corrections for extraneous signals in gridded surface temperature data
(CR 26:159-173, 2004)
- Ross McKitrick1, Patrick J. Michaels

Altitude dependence of atmospheric temperature trends: Climate models versus observation
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 31, L13208, 2004)
- David H. Douglass, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer

Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations over the Last Glacial Termination
(Science 5, Vol. 291. no. 5501, January 2001)
-
Eric Monnin, Andreas Indermühle, André Dällenbach, Jacqueline
Flückiger, Bernhard Stauffer, Thomas F. Stocker, Dominique Raynaud,
Jean-Marc Barnola

Celestial driver of Phanerozoic climate
(GSA Volume 13, Issue 7, July 2003)
- Nir J. Shaviv, Ján Veizer

Cloud and radiation budget changes associated with tropical intraseasonal oscillations
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 34, L15707, 2007)
- Roy W. Spencer, William D. Braswell, John R. Christy, Justin Hnilo

CO2-induced global warming: a skeptic’s view of potential climate change
(Climate Research, Vol. 10: 69–82, Apil 1998)
- Sherwood B. Idso

Conflicting Signals of Climatic Change in the Upper Indus Basin
(Journal of Climate, Volume 19, Issue 17, p. 4276–4293, September 2006)
- H. J. Fowler, D. R. Archer

Cosmic rays and Earth's climate
(Space Science Review 93: 155-166, 2000)
- Henrik Svensmark

Cosmic Rays, Clouds, and Climate
(Space Science Reviews, v. 94, Issue 1/2, p. 215-230, 2000)
- Nigel Marsh, Henrik Svensmark

Disparity of tropospheric and surface temperature trends: New evidence
(Geophysical Research Letters, VOL. 31, L13207, 2004)
- David H. Douglass, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer, Paul C. Knappenberger, Patrick J. Michaels

Differential trends in tropical sea surface and atmospheric temperatures since 1979
(Geophysical Research Letters, VOL. 28, NO. 1, PAGES 183–186, 2001)
- Christy, J.R., D.E. Parker, S.J. Brown, I. Macadam, M. Stendel, W.B. Norris

Documentation of uncertainties and biases associated with surface temperature measurement sites for climate change assessment.
(Amer. Meteor. Soc., 88:6, 913-928, 2007)
-
Pielke Sr., R.A. J. Nielsen-Gammon, C. Davey, J. Angel, O. Bliss, N.
Doesken, M. Cai., S. Fall, D. Niyogi, K. Gallo, R. Hale, K.G. Hubbard,
X. Lin, H. Li, S. Raman

Does a Global Temperature Exist?
(Journal of Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics, June 2006)
- Christopher Essex, Ross McKitrick, Bjarne Andresen

Estimation
and representation of long-term (>40 year) trends of
Northern-Hemisphere-gridded surface temperature: A note of caution

(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 31, L03209, 2004)
- Willie W.-H. Soon, David R. Legates, Sallie L. Baliunas

Empirical evidence for a nonlinear effect of galactic cosmic rays on clouds
(Royal Society of London Proceedings Series A, Vol. 462, Issue 2068, 2006)
- R. Giles Harrison, David B. Stephenson

Evidence for a physical linkage between galactic cosmic rays and regional climate time series
(Journal Advances in Space Research, February 2007)
- Charles A. Perrya

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics
(Physics, arXiv:0707.1161)
- Gerhard Gerlich, Ralf D. Tscheuschner

Formation
of large NAT particles and denitrification in polar stratosphere:
possible role of cosmic rays and effect of solar activity

(Atmos. Chem. Phys., 4, 2273-2283, 2004)
- F. Yu

Has solar variability caused climate change that affected human culture?
(Journal Advances in Space Research, 2007)
- Joan Feynmana

Influence of Cosmic Rays on Earth's Climate
(Physical Review Letters - November 30, 1998 - Volume 81, Issue 22, pp. 5027-5030)
- Henrik Svensmark

Is solar variability reflected in the Nile River?
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 111, D21114, 2006)
- Alexander Ruzmaikin, Joan Feynman, Yuk L. Yung

Length of the Solar Cycle: An Indicator of Solar Activity Closely Associated with Climate
(Science, Vol. 254. no. 5032, pp. 698 - 700, November 1991)
- E. Friis-Christensen, K. Lassen

Linkages between solar activity, climate predictability and water resource development
(Journal of the South African Institution of Civil Engineering, Vol 49 No 2, Pages 32–44, June 2007)
- W J R Alexander, F Bailey, D B Bredenkamp, A van der Merwe, N Willemse

Low cloud properties influenced by cosmic rays
(Phys. Rev. Lett., 85(23), 5004-5007, 2000)
- Nigel D Marsh, Henrik Svensmark

Measurement-based estimation of the spatial gradient of aerosol radiative forcing
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, L11813, 2006)
- Toshihisa Matsui, Roger A. Pielke Sr.

Methodology and Results of Calculating Central California Surface Temperature Trends: Evidence of Human-Induced Climate Change?
(Journal of Climate, Volume: 19 Issue: 4, February 2006)
- Christy, J.R., W.B. Norris, K. Redmond, K. Gallo

New perspectives for the future of the Maldives
(Global and Planetary Change, v. 40, iss. 1-2, p. 177-182. 2004)
- Nils-Axel Momer, Michael Tooley, Goran Possnert

On climate response to changes in the cosmic ray flux and radiative budget
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Volume 110, A08105, 2005)
- Nir J. Shaviv

On the relationship of cosmic ray flux and precipitation
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 28, No. 8, pp. 1527–1530, 2001)
- Dominic R. Kniveton and Martin C. Todd

Phenomenological solar contribution to the 1900–2000 global surface warming
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, L05708, 2006)
- N. Scafetta, B. J. West

Rapid Changes in Ice Discharge from Greenland Outlet Glaciers
(Science 16, Vol. 315. no. 5818, pp. 1559 - 1561, March 2007)
- Ian M. Howat, Ian Joughin, Ted A. Scambos

Recent Ice-Sheet Growth in the Interior of Greenland
(Science 11, Vol. 310. no. 5750, pp. 1013 - 1016, November 2005)
- Ola M. Johannessen, Kirill Khvorostovsky, Martin W. Miles, Leonid P. Bobylev

Reconstructing Climatic and Environmental Changes of the Past 1000 Years: A Reappraisal
(Energy and Environment, Vol. 14, Issues 2 & 3, April 11, 2003)
- Willie Soon, Sallie Baliunas, Sherwood B. Idso, Craig Idso, David R. Legates

Reconstruction of solar irradiance since 1610: Implications for climate change
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 22, NO. 23, PAGES 3195–3198, 1995)
- Judith Lean, Juerg Beer, Raymond Bradley

Solar Variability Over the Past Several Millennia
(Space Science Reviews, Volume 125, Issue 1-4, pp. 67-79, Friday, December 22, 2006)
- J. Beer, M. Vonmoos, R. Muscheler

Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 34, L08203, 2007)
- H. B. Hammel, G. W. Lockwood

Surface warming by the solar cycle as revealed by the composite mean difference projection
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 34, L14703, 2007)
- Charles D. Camp, Ka Kit Tung

The Antarctic climate anomaly and galactic cosmic rays
(physics/0612145v1, 2006)
- Henrik Svensmark

The continuing search for an anthropogenic climate change signal: Limitations of correlation-based approaches
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 24, NO. 18, PAGES 2319–2322, 1997)
- David R. Legates, Robert E. Davis

The Ever-Changing Climate System: Adapting to Challenges
(Cumberland Law Review, 36 No. 3, 493-504, 2006)
- Christy, J.R.

Timing of Atmospheric CO2 and Antarctic Temperature Changes Across Termination III
(Science 14, Vol. 299. no. 5613, March 2003)
- Nicolas Caillon, Jeffrey P. Severinghaus, Jean Jouzel, Jean-Marc Barnola, Jiancheng Kang, Volodya Y. Lipenkov

Tropospheric temperature change since 1979 from tropical radiosonde and satellite measurements
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 112, D06102, 2007)
- John R. Christy, William B. Norris, Roy W. Spencer, Justin J. Hnilo

Variations in the Earth's Orbit: Pacemaker of the Ice Ages
(Science 10, Vol. 194. no. 4270, pp. 1121 - 1132, December 1976)
- J. D. Hays, John Imbrie, N. J. Shackleton

Variation of Cosmic Ray Flux and Global Cloud Coverage - a Missing Link in Solar-Climate Relationships
(Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 59, 1225-1232, 1997)
- Henrik Svensmark, Eigil Friis-Christensen

Variable
solar irradiance as a plausible agent for multidecadal variations in
the Arctic-wide surface air temperature record of the past 130 years

(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L16712, 2005)
- Willie W.-H. Soon

Warming trends in Asia amplified by brown cloud solar absorption
(Nature 448, 575-578, 2 August 2007)
- Veerabhadran Ramanathan, Muvva V. Ramana, Gregory Roberts, Dohyeong Kim, Craig Corrigan, Chul Chung, David Winker

What may we conclude about global tropospheric temperature trends?
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 31, L06211, 2004)
- Christy, J.R., W.B. Norris

The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource

Another uneducated Hollywood

Another uneducated Hollywood moron who lacks a shred of credible evidence to support anything he says and supported by another off-the-wall nut who also needs no evidence to support his theories. Fortunately the world is not run by radical environmentalists but are run by clear-headed executives who listen to rational science and implement prudent actions. These people don't need evidence because they already have a platform, so why bother with facts?

Fortunately the world is no

Fortunately the world is not run by radical environmentalists but are
run by clear-headed executives who listen to rational science and
implement prudent actions.

I hate to disagree with you, Gat, but the number of those people is starting to dwindle (look at any nation involved with the Kyoto protocol). Fortunately there will always be some skeptics, no matter how many times people try to silence and/or discredit them.

Nowadays, the term "journalistic integrity" sounds like an oxymoron.

You omit the obvious...He h

You omit the obvious...He has the VAST majority of the world scientific community behind what he is saying. Can you claim the same??

So, trying to help preserve the PLANET for future generations is...RADICAL??

I fear for our future generations when there are people who espouse such thoughtless ideas.

BTW, "clear-headed executives" are very good at what they do. They make money.

The world's leading scientists are very good at what they do. They interpret the world's natural systems for the rest of us. AND, unlike executives, the scientists have to back up what they claim with proof...they have to show reproducible results.

The executives of our major corporations make huge bonuses whether or not they make money for their company.

Your rant leads to a dead end.

The problem is, "resul

The problem is, "results" are being reproduced on a variety of distant planets/moons without any SUVs (except the 2 we sent to Mars) and your side can't argue around that reality. Wobble all you want, it's the sun and not humanity according to the closest thing we have to a control group, and our side knows it.
JMR

I understand Mariner 9 is due

I understand Mariner 9 is due to crash in 2022.  Have we done an environmental impact study?  Do the Martians know?  Is it not enough that we are damaging our own planet - that this damage will be irreversable within 9 years?  Now we have to go and ruin theirs?

Pesky, we have to ruin Mars n

Pesky, we have to ruin Mars now. We have done all we can here, gotta move on. With luck, it will only take a few years to destroy Mars and the Martians will be on the endangered species list.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

".....AND, unlike execut

".....AND, unlike executives, the scientists have to back up what they claim with proof...they have to show reproducible results."

Yep, and that's why I believe the scientists (and the science) that disproves so-called global warming as a colossal fraud cooked up and perpetuated by disreputable persons and organizations like Al Gore, the UN, marxists, envronmentalists and a community of scientists and researchers who make a lucrative living  off the back of  the tax-payers who have little to no say about how the federal government relentlessly wastes their money on fraudulent, discredited science. Take away the mother's milk of government research funding and support for man-made global warming disappears faster than a plate of Twinkies in Rosie O'Donnell's dressing room.

OK Brainiacs, I'll say it a

OK Brainiacs, I'll say it again...this is a non issue. The Vast majority of "peer reviewed" scientists are saying that some of the earth's warming is caused by man. NOT ALLLL. I saw the article about Mars warming because of the sun. Many people saw it. The earth is also going through a warming trend. BUT, in addition to the earth's natural warming cycle...man is now adding to it. This is a distinct difference from what is occurring on Mars, and a point that Bill O'Reilly and Rush are hiding from you and/or distorting.

That is a successful tactic used by Fox and others to confuse you people. Just like the non-issue about Al Gore's energy consumption. It was a distraction meant to discredit his message. They do it to you all the time and you keep lapping it up.

Face it. Fox and company (Rush, Michael Savage, Carl Rove) have duped you all into supporting their dead end policies, while at the same time they are fleecing all of us. The vast majority of conservatives DO NOT benefit from their policies, but they have convinced you otherwise. And you bought it. Only the very wealthy people in this country benefit from the policies Fox and Co. espouse and you all are their entourage. You follow them with the hope of getting the scraps that they never offer you.

What I gather from you forward thinkers is that you are arguing AGAINST preserving the planet for our progeny. What in the world would cause a reasonable person to argue against the future quality of life for our children??

Hey, Chumpster, what have you done to reduce your own carbon foo

Hey, Chumpster, what steps have YOU taken to reduce your own carbon footprint?  Or is that a "non issue" like Al Gore's footprint?   With all your indignant  squalling, I expect that you've done quite a lot to "save the planet."

RJ, Actually, if he just s

RJ,

Actually, if he just stopped breathing, it would be like killing two birds with one stone, if you get my ahh, drift. :-)

This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.

I was in DC for the Anthrax

I was in DC for the Anthrax investigation.

I was in the Incident Command Post in New Orleans for the Hurricane Katrina hazmat cleanup. We were among the first ER responders there.

Our company was at Ground Zero almost immediately for the hazmat response.

We were the prime contractor for the Space Shuttle Columbia accident in Texas.

I have spent weeks at a time away from my family investigating or assisting with the cleanup of hazardous material incidents and spills all over the country including Hawaii, Guam, and Saipan.

Tire fires, acid spills, fuel spills, asbestos, cyanide gas, PCBs, old mine sites with mercury, arsenic and lead contamination.

I'd say I am doing my share for this world and for our country.

The question was: "what

The question was: "what steps have YOU taken to reduce your own carbon footprint?"

Not "send us your resumé"

What have you done (or are doing) to reduce your personal carbon footprint?

"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.

Come on Mean...In my opinio

Come on Mean...

In my opinion, that would be like say...one day I get up and clean the entire house, clean out the garage, and mow both lawns only to have my wife say "did you dust your nightstand?? Hmm? No? Not good enough".

Chumly, are you saying your n

Chumly, are you saying your not doing anything other than you job? I dident see anything you said that would reduce your carbon footprint. As a matter of fact, what I see is an increase over the average American, what with all the travel you do in your job. As a good liberal, I would expect you to try to reduce the impact some.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

translation: nothing at all

translation: nothing at all

I'm glad you made that exampl

I'm glad you made that example because that's what Al Gore and all his rich friends are saying to us in the poor and middle class.  Al Gore who uses 20 times the electricity of the average American household in just one of his houses is demanding we should cut back and pay carbon taxes???  Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.  Al Gore and his rich friends can afford to pay the carbon tax because it is a regressive tax!  For them to pay it is no deal at all, they can afford it, they can afford high energy bills and then still consume 20 times the rest of us! Explain to me how that's Socially Responsible???  Al Gore and his rich buddies like DiCaprio and Barbara Streisand (15 million people who own 70% of the personal wealth) consume at least half of all residential electrical consumption in the US. 

So when Al Gore and his rich buddies come down to our level of energy consumption, then and only then does he have any business telling the poor and middle class to cut back.  In the meantime, keep your grubby hands out of our pockets!!!!

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

This is funny. Chumpster thinks his job gives him carbon credits

Ha. This is funny.  As suspected, Chumpster is just a noisy enviro-phony, preaching "for thee, but not for me".   He's a hazardous waste janitor, with a different route than the guys who come by each week to pick up my garbage...(not that there's anything wrong with that). 

And he thinks that's like carbon credits that give him a pass...like Al Gore. 

hahalolololhahahalolol!

Dude, Anthrax rocks!

Dude, Anthrax rocks!

Chumly,It sounds like you h

Chumly,

It sounds like you have done a lot more than these bloggers who must sit at their computers ALL DAY and/or NIGHT being angry. Diverting the issues... we should feel for them, because you can log on for a minute 20 times per day and there they are... writing hateful things. You have a life. Good for you. Me too, gotta go, my 10 minutes is up,

I love it when you libs smooc

I love it when you libs smooch in public.

Hillarious.

For whiny Blame

Hardly.  I still hold my commission.  :-)

blame, all you do is sit around the computer day and night whining about...well, everything, instead of doing anything about them.  And YOU are the king of diverting issues, by bringing up apples and oranges comparisons in repeated desperate attempts to change the course of the debate. 

There is hardly anything hateful on NB...unless it comes from a virulent Leftist. 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

It's not just Mars that's w

It's not just Mars that's warming, and your side can't say how much (if any) warming effect on earth is from human activity, so why does your side always try to assume 100% of the effect is human? Why do we have to wring admissions about warming on other planetS in the solar system out of you people, literally every time?? Can you see why many of us think you have a big-government agenda instead of a scientific agenda???
JMR

So how did I get fooled? I mi

So how did I get fooled? I might catch Fox News once a week or so, I don't listen to Rush or Michael Savage, nor do I get memos from Karl Rove.

You assume that we all get our knowledge the same way that the "vast majority" of the left does...through the MSM and parroting Democratic talking points. Many of us here at NB do our own research and reading...then we use our critical reading skills to weigh the information we have and make informed decisions and opinions based on facts rather than conjecture.

You also seem ignorant to the fact that your "vast majority of peer reviewed scientists" are Government/Corporate grant whores that will say whatever their benefactors want them to say so they can continue to get the MONEY they are addicted to. Also, if you are looking for a certain outcome, you can almost always cherry pick and otherwise manipulate data/polls to support your preconceived hypothesis. The weather and climate is way too complex for anyone with current technology and the very limited historical data (the earth is how old?) no one but God can give definitive answers.

"For the children"

I'm not too worried about anthropogenic global warming cramping the quality of life for my children. Our children will not be forever helpless "children." They will be the ones in the future that drive advances in technology and will be able to overcome more and more technical hurdles we currently can't jump. I am worried about Islamofascist terrorism, the liberal desensitization of society to a forced acceptance of gross immorality as a constitutional right and the economic ruin that will come from trying to reverse the natural climate and geological processes that are being blamed on mankind.

Wake up.

"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.

Challenge:Have you ever got

Challenge:

Have you ever gotten a definitive answer about anything from God?

Anything?

You just discredited any and all of your arguments with the statement about God providing definitive answers. You introduced a "magic man in the sky" who can do...well...magic, (definitively answer questions). You know he does magic (miracles and such), but you can't offer proof that the magic is actually being done. I have to just believe that the magic you would point to is actually being done, without ever seeing the outcome.

BTW, you do get your information from the same system that disseminates it to Rush and to Fox and the others. It is all the same right wing msm. I believe that a lot of it comes from the minister of propaganda - Carl Rove.

Many of you only hurl insults and participate in character assassination instead of providing the fruits of your own research. I have rarely seen that. Very rarely.

I can't help a faithless pers

I can't help a faithless person understand how one does get definitive answers from God. You showed how closed your mind is by claiming that "any and all of [my] arguments" are discredited because I made a reference to God.

"BTW, you do get your information from the same system that disseminates it to Rush and to Fox and the others. It is all the same right wing msm. I believe that a lot of it comes from the minister of propaganda - Carl Rove."

How can you be so sure my information comes from Rush, FOX and Karl Rove? How can you be so sure your information doesn't come from the same sources?

"Many of you only hurl insults and participate in character assassination..."

Exactly like the your entire reply to me?

I'm not going to continue this debate with an intellectually dishonest person.

"There is a time to take counsel of your fears, and there is a time to never listen to any fear." --General George S. Patton, Jr.

Hey Chummy, you’re such a l

Hey Chummy, you’re such a learned individual and a deep thinker. Try this.  Can you define precisely how this Universe was created or how homo sapiens became the dominant species on this plant? You Koz Kidz talk about evolution. Is it possible a God could create a system of evolution and not just specific life forms?

Regarding insults, look at your original post moron.

Same question, Chumpster: What personal steps have you taken

Still waiting for your answer Chumpster:    What personal aggressive steps have YOU taken to reduce your carbon footprint?  Not your resume....you, personally.   

As for your statement that the msm is right wing and that Carl Rove supplies it with information for dissemination....(shrugs, shakes head)

A certified disciple of Koz w

A certified disciple of Koz where name calling has reached new heights and liar is used as much as impeachment – neither of which do these Koz Kidz have any idea what they mean.

I have no idea what you are talking about Chummy, but the fact that you say the VAST majority of “peer reviewed scientists is another way of saying only the ones we believe in or the ones that can pick and choose isolated events and blow them into a calamity.

That fact is that the Earth has been in the early stages of a warming phase for the past 10,000 years (for you Koz Kidz that’s pre-Bush). It is possible that man has had some affect on the acceleration of that warming but to date it has not been that significant.

Just to put things in perspective during the last 10,0000 years Neanderthals appeared about 230,000 years ago and Homo Sapiens about 90,000 years ago. Our Second Industrial Revolution was 170 years ago and the Third Industrial Revolution (which environmentalists believe has caused this furor over global warming) started only about 23 years ago. 23 years out of a history of 4,560,000,000 years.

The problem is that people like Gore and Chummy are so incredibly self absorbed that they think that we, as humans, could have had within our tiny period of time on this ancient planet that much of an impact on it.

You just made my argument f

You just made my argument for me Gat. When you said "It is possible that man has had some affect on the acceleration of that warming but to date it has not been that significant".

I have not heard one person on this blog say that (at least, none of the deniers). Man's contribution may not have been so significant to date. BUT, our energy use is accelerating. That is the point. Our impact on this planet is accelerating. The goal is to slow the acceleration and hopefully reverse the trend.

If you leave the future of our planet in the hands of "clear thinking executives" (corporate America),  you are not doing our children and their's any good.  You will be punishing your progeny for your ignorance. 

I said it was possible but it

I said it was possible but it has yet been proven. I would hold up on packing up and getting on the next space ship out of here. It has been clear thinking American executives you have developed environmentally friendly technologies and are running more and more corporations with trying to have environmentally friendly practices - and that is without a Kyoto agreement -  just good business sense. I would be more concerned about your allies across the pond and in Asia.

I just have to laugh here.

I just have to laugh here. You think he just made your entire case accurate from ONE sentence? Hilarious.

The problem with your claim is that it has not been proven whether an increase in global temperatures is a bad thing. Gorbasm claims that cities along the coast will be under water. Is that all that will happen?!?! Do you really think that even IF the sea levels rise that we'd allow cities to go underwater? We do have the technology to hold back the sea. Look at New Orleans. It is a city underwater! Yet, it survives thanks largely to technology. Of course we all know that a hurricane came along and laid waste to that town because the city's government was corrupt and putting money to maintain the levies into their own pockets. But this is an extreme case.

We only have to go back a few hundred years to see what life on earth was like when it was much hotter than it is now. History does repeat itself you know. Our earth's climate is constantly changing; going through periods when it is colder and periods when it's warmer. There is no "normal" temperature for the earth. Therefore, the earth can not get a fever and it can not get a chill because of this fact.

So what's the answer to the question, "What was life like when it was warmer than it is now?" The answer is that our world went through a boon. Low and behold, humans; life: flora and fauna are still around. Go figure. Life prevails even though our world's climate goes through drastic changes. Or have you leftist already given up on Darwin too!

some of the earth's warming i

some of the earth's warming is caused by man. NOT ALLLL.

So Chumly, I'm glad to see you realize that other sources in nature are heating up the planet.  Now how much is it man's fault?  What percentage?  Show us your proof to back up your rhetoric.

From the info I have: It is about 0.28%, if water vapor is taken into account-- about 5.53%, if not.  So let's forget about water vapor seeing that man's input is trivial from this perspective and say it's 5.53%.  Are you intending everyone to believe that the 94.47% from natural sources (CO2 & Methane) is controlled by man's puny 5.53%???  We are not buying the butterfly effect if that is what you are going to try to foist on us.  This is why the argument, it's man's fault, is absurd to us, you people have no sense of proportion.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

Again with the "peer rev

Again with the "peer reviewed" crap.  Nothing will destroy your credibility faster than using that term seriously.  All "peer review" means is that your buddy from the echo chamber gave your paper a check mark so the dean would put it into the college journal that no one reads.  I used to get my sister to "peer review" my papers back in school as well.

Here's a partial list of subjects and theories that I'm sure were "peer reviewed" as well: Flat Earth Theory, Earth Center of Universe Theory, everything Aristotle wrote about physics, 4-Element Theory, Vetinary Nervous System Theory, Sanger on Eugenics.

Are you sure you want to have this conversation?

Well for starts just who are

Well for starts just who are these “peered reviewed scientists” and who does the reviewing?
I always love how with in seconds, the leftists start off with: Rush, Fox, Big Oil, Rove, hey you forgot Halliburton. They are getting the BIG PAYOFF.
Next: it’s for the children. Well all except the children in developing countries, like China and India. Lots of kids there..
When one volcano can spew the same pollution as all the cars in the last 100 years, it makes me just a little hesitant to buy in to it all.
Then there is that whole Greenland place that the Vikings stumbled across made some settlements and then they were frozen out.
If none of this happened before I might buy.. into it. But the earth (and Venus) both have been warmer and cooler.
Also North America was covered by a huge glacier. In about 17,000 BC (that’s: Before Climate idiots) Hartford was estimated to be covered with about 2500 feet of ice. Man I bet those early men could use a few SUV’s to run from the Saber tooth tiger.
So the next time you earth warming people, start to think that we can change the world, ask a Hurricane not to hit, ask a Tornados not to kick the $hit out of that trailer park, or ask that Tsunami just - take - a - break. Its all happened before, and BEFORE WE WERE HERE.

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

Big B, are you talking to me?

Big B, are you talking to me? You just sign on to insult me? I don’t see any comments from you: Mr. enlighten. Hey I’m a collage grad, owned two business, retired at 51. And you? I bet its something real special… Any time someone starts a name with Big makes me wonder.

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

Uh-oh USA4...Looks like I am

Uh-oh USA4...

Looks like I am in big trouble with ya!

(I'm in small case....have mercy on me!)

LOL!

Btw...it is a long story how I ended up with my moniker here...and funny too.

No not you but Big.B. I dont

No not you but Big.B. I dont know who this is but he went out of his way to stick it to me.

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

You know whats weird? Things

You know whats weird? Things disappear on the site all the time. Post are there then gone. Do they get pulled? Big B made a comment about me that he hopes I don’t have kids because there are enough dumb people around. Normally I don’t respond to trolls but I made an exception this time.

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

I know USA..I have followed h

I know USA..

I have followed him somewhat and know what he has been doing to you...he seems to be another cut and run defeatist little troll.

Btw...I was just funnin' with ya earlier!

Later...

No prob. I hate hit and run,

No prob. I hate hit and run, or more like cut and run... Next time you see him on give me a call. I'm not finished..lol

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

"What I gather from yo

"What I gather from you forward thinkers is that you are arguing AGAINST
preserving the planet for our progeny. What in the world would cause a
reasonable person to argue against the future quality of life for our
children??"

Unfortunately you're full of BS. Your statement is meant only to get a rise out of people; to make it an emotional issue (it's all about the children). This is not an emotional issue. It's a scientific one. No one here is saying trash the planet. Funny how only you on the other side scream this claim. What we argue... violently and vehemently... is your claim that human kind somehow has a hand in the destruction of our planet through our production of CO2. It's just not possible. The greens are screaming that HALF a degree difference in our world's climate is going to destroy the planet. How on earth can someone argue that, when everyday and everynight our planet's temperature vary several times that... just in one day!!! How can you say that our planet is doomed because a couple of icebergs are receding, when the vast majority of the other icebergs are moving forward. It's this kind of selective science that we take offense to. Did you know that CO2 is not the largest (concentration wise) greenhouse gas in our atmosphere? And did you know that humans only produce 3% of all CO2 that gets released into the atmosphere? There so much science that goes against what you claim yet, you claim consensus and that no other scientist would dare contradict you. Don't know about you but I call that pretty arrogant.

Chumly you are obviously one

Chumly you are obviously one of those self-absorbed Koz Kidz who have never let facts or research get in the way of thoughtless rantings. I provided facts. What you provided was more of rantings. It is a bold faced lie that the vast majority of the scientific community is behind what Gore is saying. It is only a select group of radical scientists who have a political agenda. Your knowledge of corporate executives clearly shows you have no idea what you are talking about. You should go back and conspire with the rest of the Koz Kidsz

This one won't reply, eithe

This one won't reply, either. They can't take us on, and they know it.
JMR

My daughter played basketball

My daughter played basketball for quite a while.  I remember one time she had control of the ball from a throw in at the sidelines.  Seems like all the players on the court headed for a basket and she headed for the opposite basket.  It was just after a change in the courts and possibly all except my kid was confused because she was headed for the right basket and all the others were headed for the wrong one.  In that case the majority was wrong and they soon realized their mistake.

What we witnessed is herd mentality, because afterwards some of the players were saying you know I thought we were headed for the wrong basket but went with the crowd.  My kid was right and they were wrong.  The moral of the story is that herd mentality cost them the game and herd mentality has no business when choosing what is right ah=nd wrong.

Especially in science we should step back and examine the facts.  If my daughter had followed the herd, when she knew what was right then she wouldn’t be the hero of that game.

So just say moo and follow the herd if you want.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

The world's "leading sci

The world's "leading scientists"???? Who are they? Algore? DiCaprio??? "Leading scientists" have been wrong before (like in the1970's when they were predicting an ice age) and they are wrong now if they're pushing Algore's lie!

And if you think the "vast majority" of scientists agree with the fanatical enviros (as if scientific conclusions are determined by vote) then you need to see this video.

You'd do much better to think for yourself, Chumly, than to let the so-called "experts" tell you what to think....after all, this is not brain surgery.

Chum

If you're gonna debate at least have some facts to back it up. We've warned you about that in the past and you whined that we were being mean...wah,wah. So go ahead and prove that "He has the VAST majority of the world scientific community behind what he is saying." You are definitely delusional to believe such garbage and you CAN'T back it up.

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

This may one time where an a

This may one time where an actor played a character on screen and actually has the qualifications.  I mean did he not play Howard Hughs?  He doesnt have the intelegence of Howard but certainly has the signs of insanity.  Yep he definitally has the cred for being crazy.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

Show us your sources, Leo!

Show us your sources, Leo! Last I heard, polar bears and gray wolves were not only stable, but improving. That's at least two of an estimated 50 million types of species (with who knows how many undiscovered) that contradict your "omniscient" statement. As a mathematician, I know that it only takes one counter-example to disprove a proposed theorem, especially ones that rely on the words "always" or "never" because those words are pivotal to the proof.

Your time in the limelight will fade, Leo.  There will come a time when you no longer have drooling fangirls and fanboys who worship the ground you walk on.  But, unlike you, science and the truth will continue to live long after you're dead.

(Sorry for the rant, NB, but I've always hated this guy.)

Nowadays, the term "journalistic integrity" sounds like an oxymoron.

Glad I'm not the only one w

Glad I'm not the only one who detests this guy.

Well, nothing says Global War

Well, nothing says your serious about Global Warming like using a picture of an actor standing in front of a glacier...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

If Vanity Fair really wanted

If Vanity Fair really wanted to have a "Green Issue", they wouldn't have printed their magazine on paper.  They would have converted to an internet magazine. Somehow, Leo must have missed the irony of that.

Another example of "do as I say, not as I do" logic.

Well, this is Vanity Fair. I

Well, this is Vanity Fair. I certainly would not pick this magazine up for a logical and revealing debate on global warming and human polution. But I suppose the more impressionable might take this as truth.

As the so-called prophet of g

As the so-called prophet of global warming, Al Gore has declared that the science is irrefutable, and the debate is over.   We need do nothing now other than act. 

And, the lemmings like DiCaprio merely follow along to the piper's tune, never delving into the science themselves, nor adjusting their life styles to fit their rhetoric.

 This site excellently repr

 This site excellently represents the now shrinking minority of Rush fans who have been brainwashed into thinking they are not hurting the environment. It's almost sad.

A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons

Montana - please stop breathi

Montana - please stop breathing. Your CO2 is hurting the world.

1. I'm not a Limbaugh fan,

1. I'm not a Limbaugh fan, but I've seen no evidence his fan base is shrinking, despite an immense and unlistenable-IMO commercial-load.

2. I'm not brainwashed, either, but especially

3. People like me actually help the environment (and I can enumerate specific ways, but clearly you think that's not needed for your own arguments, so why bother?) whether or not lefties like you want to admit it. Strike 3.
JMR

This site excellently repre

This site excellently represents the now shrinking minority of Rush fans who have been brainwashed-

I immediately stopped reading your "argument" right there. The moment you have to rely on personal attacks, name-calling, foul language, or unfounded accusations (ie: back up your statements with data) is the moment you've lost the debate.

Nowadays, the term "journalistic integrity" sounds like an oxymoron.

He won't reply to any of us.

He won't reply to any of us. My "get specific" post above kinda hints at the truth of why, though, aside from the fact that 'driveby' is his style here. I think he can sense the embarrassing (for both of us...) fact that I've planted a lot of oak trees which are now even bigger around than I am. I've also planted cypress trees which now sport "knees" close to the size of my own knee, all due to the natural incentive owners have to improve their own private property. He knows I made a beautiful place even more beautiful, and that I'm proud as hell of it and would put it up against any state park in FL -- even the nice ones -- and he doesn't want to take me on for those reasons. I can't blame him... BTW, love your tagline.
JMR

This was yesterday's cloake

This was yesterday's cloaked post...
JMR

Hey Montana. You sound like a

Hey Montana. You sound like a Kos Kid. Here is some factual information that Gore leaves out.

The world is 4.5 billions years old and we already have had 4 warming and cooling cycles. Since the last ice age we have been in a warming cycle. The average worldwide temperature during the last ice age was about 52 degrees. At its warmest the average worldwide temperature has been as much as 72 degrees. We are not at 57 degrees.

The “real”’ affect of human activity within the last 25 years is highly questionable. The Gore-effect and the believers of that mantra are primarily self-absorbed and self-important people who use it as a political wedge rather than take the time and reason through all the science and its history.

If you want to promote conser

If you want to promote conservation, go ahead. Just don't hide behind a fictitious GW banner. There is no reason to strike 'end of the world' fear in people if your only goal is to help the environment.

Maybe you don't look around y

Maybe you don't look around you very much, but where there have been public debates between the AGW skeptics and their AGW alarmist counterparts,  the skeptics have been winning, some might even say running roughshod over the opposition.

The facts are that the real climate change data do not support Al Gore's apocalyptic view.  In fact, it comes closest to supporting the minimal warming scenario presented by the IPCC.  This level of change isn't much different than the natural changes and is better adapted to, rather than engage in extreme  preventitive measures which are likely to have no measurable effect..

Montana, go hug a tree and fe

Montana, go hug a tree and feel better.  You moonbats only wish that you were in the majority.  Just remember, you'll be out in mass in 08.  The american people have had enough of you.  They gave you a chance, and you blew it.

"gave us a chance"?

"gave us a chance"??, You have got to be kidding. This site is too funny. I've missed having a good laugh.

I'll hug a tree anyday rather than let this country make the same mistake again in 08!

"WASHINGTON (AP)—The Democratic chairman of a House panel examining the government's response to climate change said Tuesday there is evidence that senior Bush administration officials sought repeatedly "to mislead the public by injecting doubt into the science of global warming.''

A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons

"I'll hug a tree anyday

"I'll hug a tree anyday rather than let this country make the same mistake again in 08!"

I am sure you will do your part to make sure George Bush doesn't get re-elected in 2008.

Montana, Montana, Montana....

Montana, Montana, Montana..........you are really full of yourself arent you?  Keep living in moonbat dreamland......just face the fact that you do not represent a majority of Americans.........you live in your daily kos world, and tell each other how great you are.....a comunal circle jerk.  There will be no repeat of 06, I gaurantee that.  The American people are already experiencing buyers remorse.  Oh and your globalony tripe, for everyone you produce, I can produce just as many to the contrary.  Nice try.

a communal circle jerk is rig

a communal circle jerk is right, but about this site! I never go to Kos but you all never seem to veer off Rush or Fox talking points!

Most Americans and the rest of the world believe we are doing irreparable damage to the earth, but forgive me that it interferes with your beloved oil companies that don't want us to know that the C0 2 levels have increased on this planet!

but as long as you stay in your communal world where you can have your fake news to promote your ideals, many in this country will continue to promote and rationalize their own wasteful ways! fat chance for this brainwashed way of thinking in 08!

A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons

Funny about how much you beli

Funny about how much you believe unless the United States completely dismantles its economy and promptly goes Fourth World (all to assuage your guilt, of course), the world will rot in Hell, but yet China has far greater environmental issues, and from your mouth not a peep is uttered about that. 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

M lyons,Tell me what goes thr

M lyons,

Tell me what goes through your mind, while squeezing the fuel nozzle into your auto??? It's my right to fuel up? I'm not  being fuelish!  The tanks at this station NEVER RUN DRY? Just remember one thing.. the gas centrifuges in iran are running at this VERY second.  How big will the carbon foot print be from one pound of PLUTONIUM?

Mt Lyin',You may have missed

Mt Lyin',

You may have missed this site....

I for one haven't missed you....

Speaking as a proud gal in Mt. you and your Ted Turner/Tom Brokaw lovin' greenie weenie ilk are what the problem is here in this state.

Howdy Montana. Henry Waxman w

Howdy Montana. Henry Waxman will ultimately go down as the Warlock of Witch-hunts. To waste my taxpayer money on probing whether the Bush Administration manipulated science data regarding global warming is the height of arrogance. If anything, Congress should be investigating the faux-science hoax behind Gore and his band of tree-huggers. What Democrats from Waxman to Leahy are doing is desperately trying to find something – anything that they can pass along to their media allies at NBC, ABC, CBS, NY Times and the Tribune Company to trump up the impression of a scandal.

Montana, Does your mom know

Montana, 

Does your mom know you are on the computer again?

I am surprised you even put your faith in the AP and the Democratic Party.

WAIT… No I’m not. 

Your probably one of these nuts aren’t you. 

Reduce the U.S. Carbon Footprint.  Send Rosie to Iran.  Airforce_5_O 04/04/2007

On farming and the environment

The most destructive human activity to the environment, by far, is farming. 

Do you wish for mankind to stop farming in order to assuage your immense guilt?

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Didn't Carter Graydon (or is

Didn't Carter Graydon (or is it Graydon Carter?) run one of his Church_Of_Climatology covers  just a couple of months ago?

I am sure that cover had Bishop DiCaprio along with the High Priest Gore.

Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!

Global Warming

I can not believe the Arrogance of these people!!??  They actually think that they have the power to change the planet's atmosphere.  WOW!  I'm impressed!

Leo....go home to your Mommy.

What is wrong with trying t

What is wrong with trying to take care of the planet?

Nothing. I propose taking c

Nothing. I propose taking care of the planet by shrinking big-government.
JMR

david619

Absolutely nothing.

The problem is that most of the "evironmentalists" are far, far more interested in advancing Marxist/Leninism, or some other form of Euro-inspired freedom-robbing socialist BS as well as trying their damnest to destroy the free-enterprise system in this country than they are with "saving the planet."

We don't need draconian government involvement (oppression) in "rescuing" the planet, anyway. Nature is far more resilient than most people realize. We couldn't destroy this planet if we tried.

This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.- Neal Boortz.

I recently read an abbreviat

I recently read an abbreviated version of the Czech President's address in reference to AGW.

http://www.praguepost.com/articles/2007/03/28/be-afraid.php

He has hit the nail on the head. Global Warming is not about science, or logic or reason. It is radical politics (started with the Green Party in Europe) and an offshoot of Marxism. These true believers are experts at scare tactics and propaganda they have money and bogus science and the MSM on their side and their celebrity minions in Hollywood. Their ruthlessness and single mindedness to get their philosophy accepted are hard to overcome. The MSM goes along with them for whatever reason and already the politicians are acting to implement policies because they want to be seen as doing something "for the earth and for the children" with unknown and unintended consequences. Political insanity can last a long time and be very costly and deadly in its extremes. The name of the game is not saving the earth but control of governments and people. This is a political movement plain and simple using pseudo-science as a means to its end. 

What's wrong with taking care

What's wrong with taking care of the planet by means other than having intergovernmental agencies (the UN) and bad treaties (like the Kyoto Protocol) steal vast sums of money from the United States?

What's wrong with using the market (gasp!) for that end?

I would also suggest that if we were serious about ending greenhouse gas emissions, the United States would be well down the road to having 80%+ of its electrical power come from nukes (as they supply France with 78.5% of theirs)...

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

This thought just hit me.

This thought just hit me. How many of you watch the "Celebrity" editions of any of the many game shows out there; especially ones that require thinking and knowledge of basic topics (Jeopardy, Millionaire, even Street Smarts)? Over the years, and from the ones I saw, I doubt a single celebrity has ever been told he/she has the chance at setting a record (except for wrong answers).

I'd like to propose this, put Al Gore or Leonardo DiCaprio on any game show with questions related to the science of climatology but without any global warming related questions. Jeopardy, or even Are you Smarter than a Fifth Grader?, would be the perfect testing grounds to show how little of the science these idiots know.

Nowadays, the term "journalistic integrity" sounds like an oxymoron.

how did leo get to iceland?

how did leo get to iceland? by boat? or by PRIVATE JET?

How fitting that Leo is stand

How fitting that Leo is standing under the word "Vanity".

Dutch

Damn, Double-D, I was going f

Damn, Double-D, I was going for something like that myself.

Who can take seriously a magazine named "Vanity Fair," anyway? The fairly vain?     ;^)

Sorry. Best one that occurs to me right now.

Darth! You rule! Thanks for

Darth! You rule! Thanks for the laugh this morning. I needed that.

How fitting that Leo is stand

Oops, double post.

Dutch

Yes, devastating for our st

Yes, devastating for our stupidity in publishing people who "pretend/act" for a living!   Humans are at records levels--not just total numbers, but  also life expectancy per person.   Hardly the outcome if we were truly "devastating" the world.    When humans really misbehave, then nature uses its own cleansing methods (i.e. the plague) to weed out the offenders.Seems to me like we're doing something right (granted, kudos are do to the natural global warming cycle that began 40,000 years ago which has allowed us to farm far greater areas).    Plus, man has helped reclaim species like the eagle and timberwolves.Meanwhile, nature  will occasionally slam an asteroid on earth, that is the real deal.   Enjoy every day, one never knows what tomorrow will bring.  Hopefully, no more carbon hypocrites like Leo and Al :o)

As much as I despise these

As much as I despise these people that blindly follow the GW alarmism, at least Leo practices what he preaches, which is a nice change from the Gorebot!

Not One??

Obviously Mr. Hawken doesn't read the literature, like real scientists do.  Here is a list of just a few of the MANY peer-reviewed scientific articles published in refereed journals, that either explain the natural processes at work in our environment that are responsible for climate fluctations or plainly argues against anthropogenic global warming.

VARIOUS ARTICLES SEE:

-Campbell ID, Campbell C, Apps MJ, Rutter NW, Bush ABG (1998) Late Holocene 1500 yr climatic periodicities and their implications. Geology: Vol. 26, No. 5 pp. 471-473

-Kouwenberg L, Wagner R, Kürschner W, Visscher H (2005) Atmospheric CO2 fluctuations during the last millennium reconstructed by stomatal frequency analysis of Tsuga heterophylla needles. Geology: Vol. 33, No. 1 pp. 33-36

-David G. Vaughan1, Gareth J. Marshall1, William M. Connolley1, Claire Parkinson2, Robert Mulvaney1, Dominic A. Hodgson1, John C. King1, Carol J. Pudsey1 and John Turner, Recent Rapid Regional Climate Warming on the Antarctic Peninsula, Climatic Change, Volume 60, Number 3 / October, 2003

-Carol J. Pudsey1 and Jeffrey Evans, First survey of Antarctic sub–ice shelf sediments reveals mid-Holocene ice shelf retreat, Geology; September 2001; v. 29; no. 9; p. 787-790;

-Ian D. Campbell, Celina Campbell, Michael J. Apps, Nathaniel W. Rutter, and Andrew B. G. Bush, Late Holocene approximately 1500 yr climatic periodicities and their implications, Geology; May 1998; v. 26; no. 5; p. 471-473;

-Mark A. Hemer1, Peter T. Harris2, Sediment core from beneath the Amery Ice Shelf, East Antarctica, suggests mid-Holocene ice-shelf retreat, Geology; February 2003; v. 31; no. 2; p. 127-130;

-Barnosky AD, Hadly EA, Bell CJ (2003) MAMMALIAN RESPONSE TO GLOBAL WARMING ON VARIED TEMPORAL SCALES. Journal of Mammalogy: Vol. 84, No. 2 pp. 354-368

PAST CLIMATE HISTORY SEE:

-Lamb, H. H., 1995, Climate, history, and the modern world, 2d ed.: New York, Routledge, 433 p.

-Moore, P. D., B. Chaloner, and P. Stott, 1996, Global environmental change: Oxford, England, Blackwell Science, 244 p.

-Alley, R. B., and P. U. Clark, 1999, The deglaciation of the Northern Hemisphere: A global perspective: Annual Reviews, Earth and Planetary Science, v. 27, p. 149182.

-Conway, H., B. L. Hall, G. H. Denton, A. M. Gades, and E. D. Waddington, 1999, Past and future grounding-line retreat of the West Antarctic ice sheet: Science, v. 286, p. 280283.

-Bluemle, J. P., J. Sable, and W. Karlen, 2001, Rate and magnitude of past global climate changes, in L. C. Gerhard, W. E. Harrison, and B. M. Hanson, eds., 2001 geological perspectives of global climate change: AAPG Studies in Geology 47, p. 193212.

-Broecker, W. S., 2001, Was the medieval warm period global?: Science, v. 291, p. 14971499.

-Davis, J. C., and G. Bohling, 2001, The search for patterns in ice-core temperature curves, in L. C. Gerhard, W. E. Harrison, and B. M. Hanson, eds., 2001 geological perspectives of global climate change: AAPG Studies in Geology 47, p. 213230.

-Gerhard, L. C., W. E. Harrison, and B. M. Hanson, eds., 2001 geological perspectives of global climate change: AAPG Studies in Geology 47, 373 p.

-Kotov, S., 2001, Near-term climate prediction using ice core data from Greenland, in L. C. Gerhard, W. E. Harrison, and B. M. Hanson, eds., 2001 geological perspectives of global climate change: AAPG Studies in Geology 47, chapter 3, p. 305316.

-Bell, J., 2002, Tip of the Martian iceberg?: Science, v. 297, p. 6061.

-Moberg, A., D. M. Sonechkin, K. Holmgren, N. M. Datsenko, and W. Karlen, 2005, Highly variable Northern Hemisphere temperatures reconstructed from low- and high-resolution proxy data: Nature v. 433, no. 7026, p. 613617.

ON THE EFFECTS OF SOLAR AND ORBITAL VARIABILITY SEE:

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But I guess Mr. Hawken has failed to read or acknowledge these, along with the numerous others out there, as they do not fit his view of the world nor his agenda.  Check them out if you get time, there is a lot of good information in these articles.  It is amazing what you find when you seek out the truth....

S & T

"The is no place for politics in science"

 

And I guess no one told Vanit

And I guess no one told Vanity Fair and Leo about Iceland and polar bears this year:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/04/wbears04.xml

"The oceans may be warming and air temperatures rising, but in recent days Iceland has bucked the global climate trend.

"Thick pack ice, the like of which has not been seen for decades, stretched into the western fjords as temperatures plummeted and a bitter wind blew in from Greenland.

"The ice has proved a headache for fishermen, who have been unable to put to sea, but it is what comes with pack ice that has caused most concern: polar bears."

Impressive list.  I still do

Impressive list.  I still don't like the term "peer reviewed."

peer reviewed

I agree, especially if those reviewing a submitted abstract don't agree with your results and conclusions (e.g. in regard to natural climate change vs. AGW).  I have seen too many times peoples research get watered down, by 'peer-reviewed' editors, to the point to where their original interpretation(s) are totally lost in translation.  Very sad to see.

All "peer review" m

All "peer review" means is that "since someone else read the article and liked it, I don't have to do ANY critical thinking on my own!" 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

S/T kicking ass and making a

S/T kicking ass and making a list!
good job..

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

thanks

Thank you.  I am constantly researching this subject because I am tired of seeing the bastardization of real science and the dissemination of junk science as truth.  There are MANY more out there.  I will keep trying to add them from time to time, so we can all learn and correct those of whom are still in the dark!

I wish someone would really

I wish someone would really hammer these self appointed Hollywood liberal prophets on their hypocrisy. Please Mr. DiCaprio, tell us. Where is the plan for the motion picture industry to completely restructure itself and eliminate all of its negative impacts on the environment? Specifically:

When will motion pictures be produced that use no oil or coal and all energy used comes from renewable resources?

When will motion pictures be produced in a way that produces absolutely no waste that ends up in a landfill somewhere?

When will motion pictures be produced that do no damage to undeveloped areas of nature?

Only fawning interviews allowed

They can't do that, Dave.  The liberal elite follow the Al Gore model when it comes to interviews:  from Al Gore on down, they will accept no venues where they might be questioned in the manner you suggest.  Only fawning interviews allowed.

(I posted this above but want

(I posted this above but wanted to be near the end of the blog.)

new ahusser Says:
April 4, 2007 - 12:09

I recently read an abbreviated version of the Czech President's address in reference to AGW.

http://www.praguepost.com/articles/2007/03/28/be-afraid.php

He has hit the nail on the head. Global Warming is not about science, or logic or reason. It is radical politics (started with the Green Party in Europe) and an offshoot of Marxism. These true believers are experts at scare tactics and propaganda they have money and bogus science and the MSM on their side and their celebrity minions in Hollywood. Their ruthlessness and single mindedness to get their philosophy accepted are hard to overcome. The MSM goes along with them for whatever reason and already the politicians are acting to implement policies because they want to be seen as doing something "for the earth and for the children" with unknown and unintended consequences. Political insanity can last a long time and be very costly and deadly in its extremes. The name of the game is not saving the earth but control of governments and people. This is a political movement plain and simple using pseudo-science as a means to its end. 

What is it about acting in fi

What is it about acting in films that makes all these people political and scientific geniuses?

Does that mean college professors would make good actors? Just wondering....

Another Hollywood Liberal dec

Another Hollywood Liberal decides to open their mouth and insert their foot.  I love the cover of the little polar bear gazing up into DiCraprios eyes. 

The only thing that would make this better is surrounding him with all his Artic and Antarctic friends (the seals and penguins) snuggled up and hugging him around the legs.   

Man this makes me want to club something!  Mainly the Hollywood left.

I'd like to thank Doctor Di

I'd like to thank Doctor DiCaprio for his wonderful contributions to The Greatest Hoax Ever.

Leonardo

Wow!  And here all along, I thought my hot flashes were caused by menopause.

I never suspected global warming, but that makes so much sense.  Thank you, Doctor DiCaprio.

Apparently the polar bear c

Apparently the polar bear cub used in the photoshop image is none other than Knut from Berlin Zoo, who was abandoned at birth and then marked for death by animal rights activists.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/19/polar.bear.ap/index.html

In related news, Timothy Ball the former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg in Canada has been named as the next Batman.

Leo's and actor. He's followi

Leo's and actor. He's following a script. If the Hollywood agenda was in favor of , say, closing borders, he would be following a script to say how too many illegal (can I say that?) aliens are causing a strain on public schools & hospitals. He has zero clue about what the script actually means, he's just the actor reciting the lines. I promise you he did not write any of it. Maybe a little ad lib action going on, but he is staying to the script assigned to him.

Amazing how many people think George Clooney can perform open heart surgery, and Martin Sheen can debate with real heads of state.

"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

standing at the Jökulsárl

standing at the Jökulsárlón glacier lagoon in southeast Iceland

You know, Vanity Fair might want to do some research before they pick out photo locations in the future. I was trying to see if perhaps Leo was underdressed for the temperature. Instead I found this site which contains an interesting description of Jökulsárlón glacier lagoon that's not exactly the dire apocalypse that the alarmists are predicting:

When Vatnajokull, Europes largest glacier, began it´s retreat from the
shore of south Iceland around 1950, it left behind a lagoon around 100
meters deep, filled with cold meltwater and huge icebergs that head out to
the sea.

The colours and shapes of the Jokulsarlon are astounding its one of the
greatest natural wonders in Iceland, travelling in this dreamlike world,
dwarfed by the calving icebergs, man marvels at the majestic magnitude of
nature. A august sight you can never get enough of.

Waahhh! I'm scared.

credentials?

I would like to see Leo boy's scientific credentials; i.e. current vita, active research and list of publications pertaining to the said warnings signs etc. etc.  I love how he says " our political and corporate leaders have consistently ignored the overwhelming scientific evidence".  Hmmmmm, seems to me he shouldn't cast the first stone because if he would have done what he lectures he would know that there is no 'overwhelming evidence' and isn't a consensus.  Furthermore, look at his statement I repeated above; you can clearly see the agenda against the government and 'big' corporations.....

Who actually listens to these people.

"There is no room for politics in science"

If man kind is so.... powerfu

If man kind is so.... powerful, could you make it rain in my back yard, it needs it.

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

If Vanity Fair nor DeCaprio

If Vanity Fair nor DeCaprio offers no dissenting view on global warming, I fail to see how such an article can be objective.

Now that's out of the way. My real thoughts on this are... that this is pure propaganda. If something were so true universally, why would one need propaganda? Vanity Fair is hoping it's readers just take this as gospel and they stick this actor out there (a real authority) to make there point.

So much for real journalism. That ended with the Cold War. Also it seems to be too much of a coincidence that when the Cold War ended, this kind of stuff began to pop up. I can't for the life of me figure out how socialism or communism is to be any benefit for the United States.

Maybe we need a NEW "House On UnAmerican Activities Committee". Just remember that McCarthy was in the US senate, not the House.

Besides that I think McCarthy was necessary at the time to get the job done. I'll admit he went to far in the  end, but it needed to happen.

I wish there was less hypocrasy

Not one of these bungholes even gets themselves a nice Toyota camry or fuel efficient car. It's always jets, limos and Enzos. Much less, since southern CA is such nice weather, driving a motorcycle, which even with obscene performance still gets well over 50mpg

"The things we do 'For The Children'"

Noel. Ragweed is on the increase

Uh, Noel. I thinks Decapitated missed a few. You noted he said:

The problem that confronts us is that every living system in the biosphere is in decline and the rate of decline is accelerating. There isn't one peer-reviewed scientific article that's been published in the last 20 years that contradicts that statement... But the fact is, there isn't one living system that is stable or is improving....

It's not true. It's not true. Ragweed is on the increase, because of global warming. So is stinging nettle, poison ivy, stinging jelly fish, mosquitoes, and loud left-wing radicals. What am I going to do? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Quick poll

How many of you really care what Leo says?

I know I don't.

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

Agree, Clear.Another Hollywoo

Agree, Clear.

Another Hollywood retard spouting off.

Shut up and ACT!