Failed radio mouth and Senatorial candidate from Minnesota , Al Franken, told David Letterman on the set of the "Late Show" that the USA should reconsider approving the Kyoto Protocols because the treaty is good for the economy -- Despite that the ruinous treaty was voted down by a unanimous Senate vote in 1997 for the very reason that it would harm the economy.
To a fawning audience and a rapt host, Franken attacked Bush over the treaty that was voted down before he ever got to office, saying "One of the dumbest things that this president has said -- and that is a high bar -- is that if we abided by the Kyoto agreement, it would be ruinous to our economy. The opposite is true."
Franken went on to claim that the Protocls are actually good for the economy because cities that have voluntarily adopted the Protocols are seeing that "the air and water is cleaner and high-tech jobs were being created."
With his simplistic one size fits all explanation, however, Franken did not elaborate upon how these isolated successes in scattered cities would translate to the entire nation nor did he discuss the fact that some cities might not be as effected by the economic restrictions as others.
Franken claimed that we need to focus heavily on renewable energies saying we need massive new government programs to create them, programs similar to the Apollo space programs of the 1960s.
"We need to do an Apollo project in renewable energy," he said in reference to the NASA program that sent men to the moon. "We need to have biofuels, we need wind."
"We need wind" he says? He seems to give us plenty of that.
Franken also voiced support for troop withdraws from Iraq, an idea that would give insurgents and terrorists reason for hope of their own eventual success.
Franken also said he supports the setting of a timetable for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq in 2008. (Minn. Senator Norm)Coleman opposes a firm timetable for withdrawal, though he has criticized the Bush administration's strategy on the war.
No news if, to be fair and balanced, David Letterman is going to give Senator Norm Coleman, Franken's opponent in the upcoming election, the same amount of time and opposition free attention that he gave Franken to come on the show and voice his positions.
I wouldn't hold my breath for that last one.
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Maybe Al could team up wi
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 06:02 ET by MudhenMaybe Al could team up with Rosie for a remake of "Dumb
and Dumber." Kyoto: Junk Science at its finest.
This is what happens when you
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 11:47 ET by ZoneDaiatlasThis is what happens when you snort cocaine most of your life Al Franken. You will look and act retarded when you express your opinion on a subject you have no clue on what you are talking about.
Franken went on to claim th
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 06:03 ET by motherbeltFranken went on to claim that the Protocls are actually good for the
economy because cities that have voluntarily adopted the Protocols are
seeing that "the air and water is cleaner and high-tech jobs were being
created."
Did Big Al happen to give an example of city where the economy was boosted by Kyoto? Because although the water and air may be (marginally) cleaner, I'm not buying the job creation thing without at least one concrete example.
A few jobs, maybe, (which will probably go to the city council's buddies) but hardly a boom.
I read that David Letterman has arranged to have Sen. Norm Coleman on next week, "just to make it fair."
HA! Just kidding.
Franken's ignorance of the Ky
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:14 ET by GalvanicFranken's ignorance of the Kyoto treaty is quite apparent in the way he describes things.
1. Kyoto has nothing to do with "clean air and water," because CO2 is not a pollutant. It deals with the production of GHGs, which are also found in nature.
2. Kyoto is a treaty for the transfer of wealth from the 35-odd 'developed nations' in Annex I, to the "developing world," which ironically includes China and India.
3. The EU has failed to meet Kyoto goals.
4. To 'offset' carbon production, developed countries cannot count nuclear power, hydroelectric power, and until recently, even planting trees.
In short, Kyoto was nothing more than a political document, and was rightly rejected by the Senate.
I guess Franken didn't get th
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:46 ET by dscottI guess Franken didn't get the memo from Gore, Kyoto was about raising awareness, Gore admitted (more than once) the Kyoto protocol would not reduce CO2 emissions.
Now I will agree with Franken with one caveat: If Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the 15 million rich people would get off the electric grid we would easily meet the Kyoto targets, and there would be thousands of high tech, high paying jobs created producing those solar panels and wind turbines. Since Franken is a Socialist, he should understand his own social philosophy and advocate that those with the means should pay. If Al Gore uses 20 times the electricity of the average American household in just one of his four houses, so are any of the rich any different in their consumption patterns?
Leadership is about demonstration or setting the example, you don't ask people to do things you are not willing to do yourself. George W Bush is a leader, just look at his house in Crawford TX. Al Gore has not lifted a finger on energy conservation in his own personal living habits. There is a difference between salesmenship and leadership. Salesmenship is what Al Franken and Al Gore do, leadership is what W does. People are consistent in their behavior when it comes to what they believe, Al Gore doesn't believe in AGW otherwise he would be leading a totally different lifestyle.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
One simple verse precisely ex
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 07:23 ET by stanleygoodspeedOne simple verse precisely explains the Kyoto Protocol ...
Psalms 94:20
Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, WHICH FRAMETH MISCHIEF BY A LAW?
That verse explains at least HALF of what goes on in Washington.
Thanks for the reference Stan
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:16 ET by rimskyThanks for the reference Stanley.. going to remember that one.
Franken says ..."we ne
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 07:47 ET by rmellerFranken says ..."we need wind...". If we harness all the winbags in and out of Congress we'd have all the renewable wind power we ever needed.
But its all hot air and that
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 09:40 ET by Dan The Man 2But its all hot air and that would contribute to Global Warming. In fact it gives rise to the case for AGW.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
"...we need wind..."
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:16 ET by bassndude"...we need wind..." Al forgets the folks in his party dont want wind power. As demonstrated in the killing of a planed off shore wind power plant. Teddy the Swimmer sure dident want it.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Inflatable dart boards
Sun, 04/01/2007 - 09:46 ET by onceadadI would market the dart boards and my brother-in-law would market the patch kits. Talk about a boost for the econony!
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I can understand the poor and the stupid voting for Marxism or one of it's fashionable variants. If you have no hope of being other than a slave, you may as well opt for the most efficient form of slavery. P.D. James
Sen. Stewart Smally - - - NOT!
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:07 ET by CTWannabe Sen. Stewart Smally's campaign will be a perfect raging example of the total vacuousness of the lunatic left's position on many subjects. The buffoon will be non-stop gag on the foolishness of the Democratic Party.
Carbon Credits Smoke'em if you got'em!
"the air and water is cl
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:18 ET by Al Czervik"the air and water is cleaner and high-tech jobs were being created".
Really now. That might be the dumbest thing he's ever said; and it's a high bar. How exactly do cleaner air and water equate to high-tech jobs being created. Last time I checked the air and water were pretty clean in Minnesota so they should already have high-tech jobs flying out of their butts.
I'm sure that Franken will include Kyoto in his platform for Minnesota and be willing to bet his campaign that higher government regulation and taxes will boost the economy of his state. Why not call for all democrats and business controlled by democrats to voluntarily adopt Kyoto immediately. After all, the Goricle said that we are in a crisis so can we really wait until after the next election? You guys start and we'll catch up. I promise.
What an absolutely simplistic tool.
The Goricle, Best name for Al
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:48 ET by MivvisThe Goricle, Best name for Al Gore I've heard yet. Thanks.
Question is: "Just wh
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:47 ET by WolfremQuestion is: "Just whose economy is Franken referring to?" Certainly not America's economy as a nation. And I dare say not every "impoverished" nation will get a piece of the pie. IMHO, it seems to me that the ones whom have the most to gain from Kyoto are the socialists/communists worldwide, including those here in America.
And as far as renewable energies or alternative energies, why is it that no one, on either side of the aisle, has mentioned Geothermal? The Icelanders have the technology done to a highly efficient art form.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
I'm going with India. I mean
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 23:15 ET by Dave DI'm going with India. I mean techncially speaking they've "adopted" the protocols and they have seen loads of new high tech jobs. Of course those jobs have nothing to do with Kyoto. (Franken has his "out" in that he never actually states A caused B because he's playing his rhetorical games again.) You know Franken's deal "Technically true, totally misleading."
That picture tells it all.
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 08:57 ET by steviep831That picture tells it all. This guy is missing quite a few screws... For those of you in Rio Linda that means he's an imbecile.
This guy's tenure in the poli
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 09:33 ET by Gat New YorkThis guy's tenure in the political arena has been limited to pandering to the left and has not been in a forum of any real debate on issues. I did see him in one appearance where he could just not hold his own. Debates will not be run by Air America so it it is likely that Franken will be made a fool of by even Norm Coleman.
Hegalian logic. All liberal D
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 09:54 ET by iveseenitallNEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Hegalian logic. All liberal D
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 09:55 ET by iveseenitallHegalian logic. All liberal Democrat(ic)s are nuts. Al Franken is a liberal Democrat(ic). Al Franken is nuts.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
"Franken also said he
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:02 ET by Dave in Texas"Franken also said he supports the setting of a timetable for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq in 2008."
What? No call for immediate withdrawal? Is Al turning into a Republican?
Franken gets his daily positi
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:08 ET by Gat New YorkFranken gets his daily positions on issues with his morning latte as he reviews the New York Times and uses his neon colored highlighting pens to color code issues of the day. The man has never had an original thought - even his jokes are retreads.
This guy is such a maroon!
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:23 ET by LonevoiceThis guy is such a maroon! There's no way in hell I'd run for ANYTHING if the biggest thing I ever came up with was Stuart Smalley....
I do like the idea about a comparison between President Bush's home and any one of (former) V.P. Gore.
Wonder where you can find that kind of info? I mean a good one, totally transparent, with utility bills, thermal imaging and everything.
Just a thought.
If it ain't a baby, you ain't pregnant.....
"Franken went on to c
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:17 ET by ScottyDog"Franken went on to claim that the Protocols are actually good for the
economy because cities that have voluntarily adopted the Protocols are
seeing that "the air and water is cleaner and high-tech jobs were being
created."
The only new jobs that will be created will be in Government employing environmental cops to fine companies that do not meet the new standards and pencil pushers in cubicles writing new regulations to remove our freedoms. The Global Warming crowd keep quoting that new jobs would be created but they have yet to cite any proof, just like they cannot prove that man is causing GW.
Al Franken and his buddies need to come clean and tell America that they really just want the constitution abolished so they can turn America into a Socialist State.
Is this Mexico or the USA
"Is this Mexico or the U
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 12:55 ET by SQL_Sam"Is this Mexico or the USA"
Where I live we call it Americo, but the Hispanics are getting upset and want it called Mexica as they have told me it was there land originally, so they should come first....
Scotty...They want the consti
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 13:02 ET by Clear thinkerScotty...
They want the constitution abolished when it fits their agenda. They also use it in spades when it suits them.
Protecting the constition is the most important thing any American can do. It is what seperates us from the rest of the world!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Great Comedy
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:32 ET by acumen"Kyoto Protocols great for economy" (?)
Now that's great comedy. Nice to see Franken is not giving up his night job.
And this guy wants us to take
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:38 ET by Airforce_5_OAnd this guy wants us to take him as a serious candidate for Congress?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
al frakenberger should at lea
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 10:51 ET by FastEdal frakenberger should at least go all the way with the thought - think of all the co2 that could be saved if the troops withdrew, exhaust from hummers, apc's, mbt's, aircraft, ships at sea, etc.
Since al is from the great state of Minnesota, his thought pattern might be based on - "About 10,000 years ago, most of this area was covered by glaciers more than a mile thick. As the glaciers melted, many lakes and rivers were created." and "Minnesota is also known as the North Star State, a translation of the French inscription on the state seal, L'Etoile du Nord." (info from the official MN website)
So you can see that al is concerned that there is GW due to the fact that the glacers are gone and the french influences.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Another "in-kind"
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 11:33 ET by Tom1969caAnother "in-kind" campaign donation to report to the FEC...
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If Hillary is the answer, it must've been a stupid question...
What is terrifying is that Mi
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 13:28 ET by bigtimerWhat is terrifying is that Minnesota will elect this nut-job...then we will have two complete leftists from Minnesota that do not have a clue in the Senate.
That gal Klobacher or whatever her name is that they just put in is a real whiz-bang...did any one see her when Algore was testifying before the Senate...she was absolutely ga-ga over him...and even when she was done with her statements/questions to him...she still stayed in a smiling dream ga-ga state...it was embarrassing.
Franken is no different...now we have Coleman voting a lot with the dems lately because of his upcoming election with Franken...sad state of affairs in Minnesota indeed....plus throw in whats his name from congress Keith something that made the big tadoo about not using the Bible to be sworn in on....another good one....on and on it goes.
I live in beautiful north-cen
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 14:54 ET by EvokeI live in beautiful north-central Minnesota and find this state of affairs nausiating. Lord help us.
I grew up spending my summers
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 18:06 ET by BDI grew up spending my summers in Bemidji. Near there?
I live in St. Paul and fear t
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 20:56 ET by halfacarafeI live in St. Paul and fear that there could be a conservitive alternative attempt to run against Sen. Coleman who could go third party like Loury did to the governor last election. If this happens, we end up with Franken, Wellstone's friend, who Sen. Coleman won election to after Wellstone's unfortunate death (the far left still believe he was killed). Loury was not enough of a factor to dent the mistakes of Mike Hatch and his brand of liberalism, Pawlenty prevailed, but I think the right wing is still looking for a real conservitive vote and between the two would split this purple state's vote and by default go democrat.
OMG,My ex was from Minnesota.
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 21:04 ET by BlondeOMG,
My ex was from Minnesota....you guys are killing me!
half...In the end...I would r
Thu, 03/29/2007 - 21:13 ET by bigtimerhalf...
In the end...I would rather have a real conservative than all these half-wit RINO's we end up with.
IN the minority so be it, there are all kinds of things one can do to get what you want even as the minority at times...takes time, but is we do not get real conservatives in we may as well kiss this country good-bye.
Just my opinion.
Look at the likes of Specter, I still think Toomey would of won if he would of had a little bit of backing by his own party...I could go on and on.
I listened to Specter all day today in the Judicial hearings today having to do with the Gonzales ordeal...he makes me sick.
I am tired of ending up with people like this.
Hmmmmm... Back in the late fi
Fri, 03/30/2007 - 16:08 ET by BDHmmmmm... Back in the late fifties my Grandfather was head of the DFL in Minnesota for a short while.
He would be a conservative Republican by todays standards....
Given some of Minnesota's r
Fri, 03/30/2007 - 23:04 ET by daveinbocaGiven some of Minnesota's recent contributions to political lunacy, like the whacko-wrestler and a zany Senator who got killed in a plane crash, this creature from a parallel universe would fit right into the Woebegone mould. Or is it mold. I believe Franken represents the double-digit IQ of the citizens of this frozen lefty hell.
Franken's pandering
Sun, 04/01/2007 - 10:04 ET by nkviking75Minnesota's geography makes it a great place for generating wind energy, and Minnesota's agriculture industry is already heavy into biofuels like ethanol. By pushing these two forms of energy, Franken is simply pandering to the voters back home.