No, it's not bias per se, but it is a bit of a pet peeve when the media are sloppy with terminology that relates to the military.
This morning, CNN has been reporting on how Iran may release the female sailor that was captured along with 14 of her comrades. But in doing so, the CNN chyron referred to her as a "troop."
"Troop" is not used in the singular to refer to a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine. "Troop" traditionally refers to a unit of soldiers, although in modern usage "troops" may refer to soldiers collectively irrespective of a unit organization.
CNN would be correct to say that Iran has said it will release the female sailor among the 15 captured British military personnel, as the woman in question serves in the Royal Navy.



















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Exact Phrase CNN Used, Please
March 28, 2007 - 11:18 ET by JMSUWhat, exactly, did CNN report? You're usually pretty good at quoting these things.
It seems to me that it would be appropriate if the news ticker read: "Iran to release female troop," meaning 'all of the troops who are female.'
From what I have heard, there
March 28, 2007 - 11:25 ET by SouthJersey1953From what I have heard, there is only one female sailor and 14 male sailors.
I have noticed the media this week (on numerous occasions) saying "...15 soldiers, er....sailors..." (At least they are catching themselves).
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for. - Will Rogers
Okay, for JMSU and all others
March 28, 2007 - 16:28 ET by BDOkay, for JMSU and all others with little connection to subjects military.
A troop is a company sized unit of Cavalry. Usually around 120 personnel or "Troops."
When referrring to a singular member of a cavalry troop, the appropriate phrase is "Trooper." As in "He is a good trooper" or "Trooper Johnson stole my MRE and I am going to beat his a**"
Regardless, the person involved is a sailor and should either be referred to by that category.
Okay, for JMSU and all others
March 28, 2007 - 16:29 ET by BDWhat a trooper you are!
March 28, 2007 - 11:22 ET by ding7777What a trooper you are!
I may be wrong, but I get the
March 28, 2007 - 11:25 ET by taznarI may be wrong, but I get the impression the word "troop" is often used in this manner to cover for not knowing the proper term to use (sailor, soldier, marine....). Of course that still puts it firmly in the "lazy journalism" category.
trooper? the media has never
March 28, 2007 - 11:26 ET by soosantrooper? the media has never (at least not since the 50's) been very good at respectfulness to the military. I'm personally very sorry that the "lady sailor" is being separated from her comrades - this an insult not only to the lady but to all of the women who have made the grade and serve. On the other hand, I'm grateful that at least someone is being released and hope that this is an indication that the rest will soon follow.
you beat me to it ding... s
March 28, 2007 - 11:31 ET by soosanyou beat me to it ding... since this was a journalist, I'm suprised he didn't include the west coast spelling, t-r-o-u-p-e
The term should be hostage or
March 28, 2007 - 11:27 ET by Dan The Man 2The term should be hostage or POW.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Name That Hostage
March 28, 2007 - 11:34 ET by acumenWhat do we expect from a news station that has instructed its employees to use the term freedom-fighter in place of the correct term, terrorist (as if these thugs are actually fighting for freedom)?
"idiot liberals" - congressman obey(me)
Ken:As a television producer,
March 28, 2007 - 12:06 ET by Dave HighKen:
As a television producer, it is a pet peeve of mine when pundits who comment about on-screen graphics are sloppy about TV terminology and refer to them as Chyrons, or as in your case, "chyron" [sic]. Chyron is a company that used to be the leading TV graphics machine company, producing state-of-the-art equipment used by most teleportation facilities, oh about 15 - 20 years ago. Unfortunately Chyron stuck with analogue technologies that they were good at producing when the digital age was budding. The company fell far behind and has now been relegated to the back row of graphics machine companies. Calling an on-screen graphic a Chyron is like calling a facial tissue a Kleenex, except only worse. Kleenex is still a leading brand of facial tissue.
Try using these phrases; they are more accurate.
~ full screen graphic
~ lower 1/3 graphic
~ lower 1/3 super
~ lower 1/3 crawl
As one who appreciates the nuance of language, I know you will appreciate my advice!
Regards, Dave High
You're right, lower-third w
March 28, 2007 - 15:14 ET by Ken ShepherdYou're right, lower-third would be the best, most correct term.
"Lower-third" makes no sense to most people in a title, but "on screen graphic" would.
Chryon fits the strictures of the tight headline whereas "troop" saves just one letter in spacing when used in lieu of "sailor."
But your point is well taken and I'll avoid the use of "chyron" in the future.
But you may want to send your hate mail to our taxpayer funded Public Broadcasting System:
CHYRON A piece of equipment that allows video
editors to insert text and graphics over the video
picture or within the video frame.
I have no degree in the Engli
March 28, 2007 - 12:30 ET by BruzillaI have no degree in the English language, no strong editorial experience, nor am I a reporter, but I do have a DD214, and I have referred to someone as a "troop". I've also referred to them as a "boot", "rook", "grunt", "squid", "FNG", "snipe", "brownshoe", "blackshoe", "jarhead", "hand", "bubblehead", "deckape", "coastie" and a host of other names that may make perfect sense, or no sense, in a gramitical sense depending on if you've ever been in uniform or what uniform you've worn.
I think the use of "troop" is quite accurate, and if you want to fault CNN (and the rest of the media types) for something, fault them for broadcasting this story, or the troop's letter that shows her "confession" for being in Iranian waters. That's obviously a coerced statement... derived from (dare I say it...) TORTURE, and the broadcasting of it only legitimizes what the Iranians are doing.
It's "grammatical".
March 28, 2007 - 12:37 ET by mattmIt's "grammatical"...BTW : )
Like I said, I ain't got no d
March 28, 2007 - 12:39 ET by BruzillaLike I said, I ain't got no degree in Engleesh. :)
I hate to go on a rant here,
March 28, 2007 - 12:48 ET by BruzillaI hate to go on a rant here, but the more I think about this story the more it just really torques me! We have a well-known and thoroughly-documented terrorist, KSM, confessing to a bunch of attacks he was involved in and some he's wishing he had been involved in, and all the MSM can focus on is how he was mistreated, "tortured", called bad names, belittled, or harassed by the US. Then you have a bunch of just-doing-our-job honorable Royal Navy folks who get illegally abducted, and start writing "confession" letters stating they were in the wrong and intruding in Iranian waters despite ample evidence to show they weren't, and the MSM reports this story as if this could be evidence that the Royal Navy was in Iranian waters and no mention of likely use of torture or threats to coerce these statements.
It just makes me sick!
He also mentioned Clinton and Carter
March 28, 2007 - 12:58 ET by Carl KolchakI think KSM also said he had plans to harm Clinton. Now we just can't have people in the world who didn't get the memo that Bill Clinton is the greatest person in the world. The left wing MSM probably didn't want to cover that someone would actually want to harm pure and noble Bill Clinton.
"Well I got nothing agains the press, they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true" 'Sunday Papers'
No matter how the libs try to
March 28, 2007 - 14:52 ET by iveseenitallNo matter how the libs try to mock, most people get your point, Ken. Unfortunately, even more uneducated dolts will be coming out of the public schools and schools of "journalism" in the future. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
It really is shocking to see
March 28, 2007 - 14:57 ET by mostlymoderateIt really is shocking to see how unprofessional today's journalists can be. When I was in college, my professors busted my rump for improper use of titles. In law school, the bar was set even higher and I was constantly ripped-on for using incorrect names like "sailor" vs. "soldier" vs "troop or troops". Apparently, the D+ students must end up on CNN.
Question: What do you call
March 28, 2007 - 18:10 ET by garvinQuestion: What do you call a student who Graduates last in his Journalist class?
Answer: A Journalist.
Troop or troop?
March 28, 2007 - 18:30 ET by gerd.schroederTypically, the word “troop” in military jargon is used in two ways Troop or troop. Troop refers to a Cavalry unit about 100 soldiers is size. It is only an Army term. The noun “troop” commonly refers to one soldier, troops would mean more than one. The term sailor refers to a cabana boy on a cruse, not a military member;) Try a little harder to use your brain to think of compelling, insightful topic. I know you can do it seaman.
"The term sailor refers
March 28, 2007 - 19:03 ET by RJ"The term sailor refers to a cabana boy on a cruse (sic) not a military member."
Wow, my Navy shipmates would be surprised to hear that... ;^>
Um, where can I get one?
March 28, 2007 - 19:06 ET by BlondeUm, where can I get one?
Here I come to save the day
March 28, 2007 - 19:11 ET by MightyMouthHere I come to save the day!!!!!!!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
In the navy.. where you can
March 28, 2007 - 19:11 ET by Jack BauerIn the navy.. where you can sail the seven seas!
Well, according to the Village People.
Jack....Village People?
March 28, 2007 - 19:18 ET by BlondeJack....
Village People?
Hey Blonde - I know. I shou
March 28, 2007 - 19:27 ET by Jack BauerHey Blonde - I know. I should be ashamed -- but don't we all have small place in our heart for the old boys?
From the US Navy websiteOve
March 28, 2007 - 19:23 ET by Jack BauerFrom the US Navy website
Overview
Wouldn’t it be great to sample a day of Navy life? You could sneak into Boot Camp, check out Navy living quarters, step on board an aircraft carrier, sample galley food, and talk to other Sailors in the Navy. Kind of like test-driving a new car before you buy it. Well, here in About the Navy, you can get a taste of those various areas to give you a better idea of what the Navy is all about.
It's just the stupid lib wing media Ken
March 28, 2007 - 18:56 ET by SportPoliticsIt's just the stupid lib wing media Ken. The only sailor they ever saw or talked to was one on a TV show that they wanted to get into the pants of.
I've had dozens of libs admit to me they have no contact with anyone in the military. No friends,no family, no clue. They are the type that scream I need to get to Iraq now and fight.
One of them whined - a raging Bush hating liberal mind you - that 14 illegals work at the local golf course mowing for peanuts- and also live in the apartment across the hall from him. He's gay so he probably likes it. He also whined he only had money for milk and noodles at the 711.
That's the type of people were talking about.
They screamed noone in congress had any children in Iraq, which was wrong also.
I guess we'll have to wait for the islamists to start chopping off American's heads on our soil, in public view, so the libs can be eyewitnesses, and then after they somehow confirm those aren't CIA operatives, they'ell get with the game and be on our side.
Thanks. I don't mean to pic
March 28, 2007 - 22:21 ET by Ken ShepherdThanks. I don't mean to pick on the good folks on CNN. Nah, maybe I do.
I got a fair share of ribbing for this post in-house today. It's not the most earth-shattering item nor do I have any pretense it is.
Is it a window into the cluelessness the media displays towards the military? Maybe. It seemed that way to me and I, your humble servant, submitted it to you all.