On March 18th, the New York Times published a piece titled "The Women's War". It was a feature of great length (18 pages on the Internet) centered around the plight of several female Veterans of the war in Iraq. It detailed the mistreatment they suffered by the US Military, sexual harassment they received at the hands of army officers, and their PTSDs (post traumatic distress disorders). A shocking expose is what the Times was going for, it is sure. These women certainly deserved better treatment and the story should be well publicized, of course. It might have had more impact but for the fact that the Times knew that one of the subjects featured in the article wasn't even in Iraq and that her story was a complete lie.
Worse yet, the Times published the story knowing full well that one of their subjects had lied to them. Finally, a whole week after their initial story was published on the 18th, on March 25th, the Times published a mea culpa, correcting the story.
The cover article in The Times Magazine on March 18 reported on women who served in Iraq, the sexual abuse that some of them endured and the struggle for all of them to reclaim their prewar lives. One of the servicewomen, Amorita Randall, a former naval construction worker, told The Times that she was in combat in Iraq in 2004 and that in one incident an explosive device blew up a Humvee she was riding in, killing the driver and leaving her with a brain injury. She also said she was raped twice while she was in the Navy.
...Based on the information that came to light after the article was printed, it is now clear that Ms. Randall did not serve in Iraq
According to Fox New's Rick Leventhal the Times knew far in advance that one of their highlighted subjects was a fraud.
The newspaper knew about the mistakes on March 12, six days before the magazine was distributed, and 13 days before it published the correction.The magazine was printed on March 9 — three days before the lies were discovered — but there was still plenty of time to reprint it. The cost might've been huge, but wouldn't it be worth it for a paper whose masthead proclaims "All the News That's Fit to Print?"
For the Times' part, they claimed there wasn't enough time to correct the story in advance of the publication date.
On March 6, three days before the article went to press, a Times researcher contacted the Navy to confirm Ms. Randall’s account. There was preliminary back and forth but no detailed reply until hours before the deadline.
Leventhal claims the Times knew about it 6 days before press and the Times admits to three. Regardless if it was six or three, there was more than enough time for the Times to print a correction between March 18th and March 25th.
Why did the Times wait an entire week to print this correction when even by their own admission they knew the truth before they printed the original story?
We know what the Times knew and when they knew it (to steal the oft repeated Democrat Party phrase used against GOP administrations), but what we don't know is why it took them so long to admit to it all?
Was there no time at all that they could have published this correction over the course of a whole week? Did they want to wait far enough into the future until they thought no one would notice?
What ever the reason, it is interesting how long they waited in light of how they treat others who "know" things but wait too long in the Time's estimation to admit it all, isn't it?
Imagine if this were Bush waiting to get all the facts straight before coming to the fore with all he knew? Wait, we don't have to imagine it. All we have to do is look to see how the Times is treating the faux scandal of the Gonzales Attorneys General firings.
As John Gibson said of the story:
Does it cost a lot to reprint an entire four-color glossy paper Sunday magazine? Yes. Does it cost a lot in reputation for the newspaper of record to knowingly publish false information and figure it can be fixed with a schedule correction a week later? Yes and yes.
The Times has a political point of view these days it has no problem pushing in its news and editorial pages. OK, it gives up some points in objectivity when it does that, but the publisher has a right to do so. But when The Times knowingly publishes phony information because it costs too much to reprint and thinks a correction a week later will fix things, that suggests something different than just editorial point of view. It suggests a willingness to lie for money. If you'll lie for money, doesn't it follow you would find it much easier to lie for the much higher calling of ideology?
The Times has some explaining to do.
I couldn't agree more.
I actually read that story a few Sundays ago myself. The very first thought I had was a curiosity if the Times fact checked any of the aggrieved women they highlighted. I guess I got my answer!
There is one more thing that should be considered in this mess the Times has made. There were some real stories of women vets that will now be overshadowed by the Times' sloppy work. All the focus will be on the fraudulent claims and the real problems faced by the other women could easily fade into the background.
And now I have to say one more thing. Liberals had for years been trying to break down the roadblocks to women being able to serve in the military and in field positions. Now they have that in many ways, if not full combat. And now we have women getting PTSD because of their harrowing service to the country.
Am I the only one to think that this should not surprise anyone? Military men having been coming home from wars with PTSD since the first clashes of humans. Why are we all upset and surprised that, now that we are putting women in a position to see the same sorts of service, women are finding themselves faced with troubled lives afterward?
I am not saying, of course, that we should just brush off these women's troubles, but can we really justify sensational stories about their troubles as if it is somehow shocking? Shouldn't we just expect the problem and make moves to face it and help these women?




















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Dang WTH...You saw my post an
March 27, 2007 - 04:31 ET by bigtimerDang WTH...
You saw my post and link!
Just kidding, I am glad you have this story on here, or I wouldn't have posted my outrage about it earlier in an open thread with my link.
Others will have to carry on...I am furious about it...
You think the Old Grey Lady is going to have any kind of a real apology, retraction, let alone some firings by the decision makers who let this tripe run...against our military again as usual.
Btw...I want the gal to have to face consequences about lying....outright lying.
All for an agenda...it makes me furious now...not just plain sick and tired ... but furious!
I have had it with the evil leftists...they have to have accountability...or this country and news sources are just plain shot...well heck they already are as far as I am concerned..but who in the heck is going to keep buying their lies...only the die hard leftists...and that is only ...at the most about 25-30% of this country...that is going to support their business...the leftist fools.
Retraction...apology...firings?
When pigs fly most likely.
Bigtimer, If I had seen yo
March 27, 2007 - 04:38 ET by Warner Todd HustonBigtimer,
If I had seen your link in the open thread I would have hat tipped ya. Sorry I missed it.
I caught it courtesy of John Gibson. The only reason I didn't get this up yesterday is that I sliced open my darn index finger on my left hand making it hell to type!!!
So? Type with one hand, I do
March 27, 2007 - 04:48 ET by old croSo? Type with one hand, I do all the time :)
War Monger #9
That's what I am being forced
March 27, 2007 - 04:50 ET by Warner Todd HustonThat's what I am being forced to do, unfortunately. And it's seriously causing a crimp in my style!! HA, HA.
Todd,Ohhh no!Not the typing f
March 27, 2007 - 04:49 ET by bigtimerTodd,
Ohhh no!
Not the typing finger!
LOL!
Heal up fast...before you have to use your good finger!
Should of called me...I can help!
Just kidding!
Btw...this is a very important story to me...I heard it on Fox too...thats where I got my link from.
Wake up America!
NYT's is an outrage...AGAIN!
Amorita Randall
March 27, 2007 - 05:14 ET by PShannonThere is absolutely no way this woman was raped -- unless in was by King Kong.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/randall002.jpg
PS...Wow...I can't access tha
March 27, 2007 - 05:19 ET by bigtimerPS...
Wow...I can't access that link...anyone else have problems?
This inquiring mind needs to know....thanks.
Worked for me on a second-r
March 27, 2007 - 05:23 ET by sarcasmoWorked for me on a second-reload (which indicates Michelle has recently had DDOS attack problems and is now paying a lot to avoid them, if my guess is right). All I can say upon seeing the pic is: "That poor couch."
JMR
Thanks sarc...I still can't g
March 27, 2007 - 05:39 ET by bigtimerThanks sarc...
I still can't get it...will try later.
Gettin early now...time to go!
Bacon and eggs anyone...over-easy...sunny side up...scrambled....
LOL!
Well, gee, bigtimer, appare
March 27, 2007 - 06:21 ET by motherbeltWell, gee, bigtimer, apparently you didn't read the "correction."
They didn't find out the story was a hoax until "hours before the
deadline." What did you expect them to do, make a change at the last
minute???
That's the part that's just unbelievable! They
actually ADMIT that they figured it out before the story went to print,
and did nothing about it!
As for consequences, don't hold your breath. They don't exist for Liberals or their MSM friends. They simply say they "take full responsibility" for whatever, and let it go at that. Infuriating, I know. I don't even know how one fights that kind of mentality.
Good catch, Warner. And whi
March 27, 2007 - 04:50 ET by sarcasmoGood catch, Warner. And while we focus on media bias, it is also important to remember the real victims (besides 1000s of misinformed readers, I mean) of the NYT's journalistic sloppiness in this case. Those would be the real rape victims, whose story has now been overshadowed through no fault of their own by the NYT's evil choice. Victims again...And I'm pretty sure the NYT doesn't want to talk about it, but maybe Fox News can somehow reveal why their reporter thinks the NYT knew about this for three more days than they admit? Is there evidence beyond a he-said-she-said, and if so what is that evidence?
JMR
Sarc, Excellent point. I t
March 27, 2007 - 04:53 ET by Warner Todd HustonSarc,
Excellent point. I think I will add a section in acknowledgment of that fact.
Thanks. Just for that, I'll
March 27, 2007 - 04:59 ET by sarcasmoThanks. Just for that, I'll refrain from any obvious lines about guys being used to typing with one hand... :)
JMR
Line about being used to typi
March 27, 2007 - 05:06 ET by Warner Todd HustonLine about being used to typing with one hand? I don't get it.
Oh, WAIT a minnit!
Ha Ha. I just got that. Hones
March 27, 2007 - 05:08 ET by old croHa Ha. I just got that. Honestly it's my cad training that necessitated it. One hand on the keyboard, one hand on the puck. How's that for an explanation?
If the leftist had any concep
March 27, 2007 - 05:02 ET by old croIf the leftist had any concept of reality, they would realize this "hit piece" is just what it is. An attempt to discredit the US Military and all that it stands for. If you look at the internal goings on of any large company or group a people thrown together from diverse backgrounds and such, you will always come away with a few bad apples. It's human frailities and shortcomings that we are all guilty of. This constant harping in the media about our military is sickening, my eyes just glaze over this stuff anymore.
PS Todd, I lied. I do type with both hands, just slowely and only with a couple of fingers on each.
War Monger #9
Is it just me, or is anyone e
March 28, 2007 - 11:44 ET by BDIs it just me, or is anyone else seeing the parallels between this story and the stores regarding the Winter Soldier hearings of the Vietnam era?
If the press had done their job then, they would have been able to find that the bulk of the supposed veterans who surrounded John F Kerry on the stage at that event were not actually veterans, and at least had not served in Vietnam, and that their statements uttered during that time were falsifications?
Fast forward and we have similar people appearing with their own stories designed to inflame the public, and similarly the press is not too inquisitive about the truth of such claims.
Will the press ever learn? Does it desire to?
Is it just me, or is anyone
March 28, 2007 - 11:54 ET by Jack BauerIs it just me, or is anyone else seeing the parallels between this story and the stores regarding the Winter Soldier hearings of the Vietnam era?
That's an apt analogy BD
But, of course, they "support the troops."
How? Nobody knows. But the left keeps saying it.
They consider increasing food
March 30, 2007 - 13:15 ET by BDThey consider increasing foodstamps and other such welfare the troops are elligible for to be "Support"
The Times' failure to correct
March 27, 2007 - 16:50 ET by Tony SThe Times' failure to correct its inaccuracy is likely because even though it is factually untrue, it is "politically" true to them. In other words, if you subscribe to their ohilosophy, all women are oppressed, and therefore the facts don't matter so much as the idea behind them.
This odd but chilling concept isn't mind. It was eloquently thought up by William Anderson, an authority of the Duke rape hoax. His brilliant column, titled "Duke and the Politics of Rape" can be found here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson160.html. I urge everyone to read and re-read this thought-provoking column (and others by Bill).
By the way Warner -- this blog entry has disappeared from the main Newsbusters page, by the way. It should stay there because it deals with a very important issue. Why did this blog entry disappear? Is Newsbusters now politically correct in that it doesn't want to offend feminists ... or someone?
They took it off because they
March 27, 2007 - 20:12 ET by Warner Todd HustonThey took it off because they said one of the other Newsbusters writers did a piece on this. I checked before I posted mine and did not see it, so I am not sure who it was.
I never saw anything else o
March 28, 2007 - 11:52 ET by sarcasmoI never saw anything else on the subject. (Hmmm. Maybe it really was me!) :)
JMR