Seymour Hersh Discusses American Military Strategy on Iranian Radio

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Seymour Hersh of “The New Yorker” has been an outspoken critic of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq for many years. This certainly should come as no surprise to folks familiar with his name, his work, and his style of dangerously activist journalism.

On March 11, Hersh added a new wrinkle to his résumé by not only doing a radio interview with the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting, but also actually discussing what he believes is the American military strategy towards Iran including what he called "an intensive planning for an air strike" and  "some sort of on the ground operation."

I kid you not.

The shocking interview was transcribed at the IRIB website (h/t NRO’s Michael Rubin, emphasis added throughout):

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Question: Mr. Hersh there is so many people who predict that there would be a US military strike on Iran, most of them to say this is going to be an air strike. According to Iran's geo- strategic position which is mountainous and the US air strike could not be followed by ground strike, what could the US military do in order to be successful and does the US have the ability to launch a ground strike on Iran or not?

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I am somebody who has an opposition to the government and so I do not sit down at the table with people in the White House and the Pentagon officially and discuss these things. The best I can tell you is nobody knows for sure what is going to happen. It is very possible that President Bush and Vice President Cheney, all their language is just a bluff and it is designed to make Iran give up and stop its nuclear fuel cycle research. I don't think so, but it is possible. I do know there is an intensive planning for an air strike and one of the problems you have when you start the process is if the air strike isn't successful or it doesn't lead to what they want, I mean a capitulation by Iran. The next step would be they are considered some sort of on the ground operation. All of this has to be considered in the planning but this is just planning. What I have been writing about for over year is still planning. It is going to be planning until the president wakes up one morning and says I want to strike Iran and then it happens. That order so far has not come.

Shocking, wouldn’t you agree? What do they call it when an American citizen – even a journalist – discusses military strategy with the enemy when our nation is at war?

While you ponder, here’s another question posed to Hersh:

Question: As our supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei has stated in case of any attack upon us we have got the right to retaliate against American interests and bases at any place of our choice. So doesn't US administration fear about targeting its bases around our country and its establishments or killing its forces and etc?

Answer: You know I can just tell you it should and again as I wrote in the New Yorker magazine we are doing more than targeting Iran where inside your country. There are a lot of aggressive activities by the United States. I think we and the Israelis, I have written this, have contacts with Baluchis and the Iranian Kurds all of whom in some cases are happy with the government or in opposition to the government and we are also setting our troops across the border. So there is a lot of aggression by the United States right now on Iran and what happens next nobody knows. So far, Iran has been very quiet.

Astounding, wouldn’t you agree? NRO’s John Podhoretz had a much stronger view of this despicable event:

I've heard of "useful idiots" before. But Sy Hersh has now invented a new category: the "useful Jew." Maybe  Ahmadinejad could enlighten Sweet Sy about how all the relatives he had who died in the Holocaust didn't really die or didn't exist or should have died.

I quite agree, John, especially after seeing Hersh’s answer to the following question:

Question: Most international analysts believe that the US ultimate goal is to fight against revolutionary Islam and to dominate of the region's energy and oil. But Mr. Jimmy Carter stated that the overthrow of Saddam did not have anything do with energy and oil. So what is the real goal of the US administration in the Middle East?

Answer: Nobody knows what is in the president mind and Mr. Cheney. We don't know what they think. He attacked Iraq in 2003 in response to the Sunni Al- Qaeda in America. Why he would attack Iraq have never been clear because Saddam Hussein was secular. He was a Sunni but he did not like Jihadists. So it is unclear to me what Bush was doing. You could argue that the neo-cons want to get rid of any threat. They never liked Saddam. He was a threat to the other countries in the Middle East, to Israel. Perhaps what we are doing is for Israel and oil but I don’t think this president believes that he really thinks his mission is to spread democracy in the Middle East, even though, you could argue that Iran is probably the most democratic country. The elections there certainly indicate people vote what the way they believe but he believes to spreading democracy and right now we are working with some of the most undemocratic countries in the Middle East, you know Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia that do so. It is very strange.

No, Sy. What is strange is an American, and a Jew, giving such information so happily to the sworn enemy of both the United States and Israel. You must be very proud of yourself.

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This man is an absolute trait

This man is an absolute traitor to this country.

Period.

I wished I hadn't read all of that great information just now...talk about furious.

Good vs. Evil....and Hersh is evil.

The leftists are worried we may win the battle and are doing their utmost to destroy it...within and without our borders.

Stay strong we must!

Fight on!

We will win...much to their chagrin and defeat!

The man is THE definition of

The man is THE definition of a traitor. Revoke the useful idiots' passport NOW!!!

To hell with that.  Hang him

To hell with that.  Hang him.  He won't need a passport where he's going.

Hey guys, while I support u

Hey guys, while I support us going full bore towards instituting a Constitutional action against these traitors, I would ask that we all rise above the tactics of the leftists and show ourselves to be the true patriots we are.

First things first, we must stand up and demand, no, force our representatives to use the Constitutional option of trying traitors. We must raise our voices together and make it known that this is what is called for in the Constitution, and this is what must happen. We will warn them that if they do not listen, we the people will take the next Constitutional step... the one our founding fathers took.

But we first give our representatives the opportunity to do their job. If they do not, we then will begin the revolution. Maybe this will happen soon, or maybe they'll do their Constitutional duty and arrest traitors like Mr. Hersch and try them for high treason as it is clear he has now crossed over that line.

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Isn't Hersh another 60's li

Isn't Hersh another 60's liberal trying to relive his one shining achievement, to wit, his uncovering of the Mi Lai Massacre? And what has he done since then, other than try to undermine American foreign policy?

Okay, as far as his analysis of the planning and strategy concerning military action against Iran, any reasonably astute military observer could opine a believable course of action. However, I wonder if he actually knows something.

The best case is that he's a stalking horse for the Pentagon. Hehe, better than that, he's a stalking horse and he doesn't even know it!


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JohnCA

John you are correct about his 60s tie in. I think the guy is STILL high!! Considering some of the things he's predicted and said. Actually, he'd fit in well with a padded room. He's a freakin' nutjob!!

gffrman, This guy has been

gffrman, This guy has been flapping his gums since 2003, predicting this and that, and so far he's not been accurate about anything, AFAIK.

It befuddles me when I read or hear someone breathily proclaim the Pentagon is drawing up plans for an invasion of Iran (or fill in the blank). No s&!t !? That's what the plans and operations people in the Pentagon do - draw up plans and operations for military action and wars.

As I told someone once, we probably have plans for invading Canada, Barbados and San Francisco. Sheesh!

Can you imagine the hue and cry, the uproar, if we needed to take a quick, decisive military action against some country, and something got botched. Only later to find out we had incomplete plans for the action. Why, there'd be Senate hearings and investigations on why our defense department wasn't prepared for every contingency. They'd demand resignations, impeach Bush!


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JohnCA

John, I agree with your post. To NOT have these kinds of prospective plans would be just plain silly.

John,This piece of work wrote

John,

This piece of work wrote a book called  'The Dark Side of Camelot' about the Kennedy's that was not very nice to put it mildly....I have it read it...and almost believed it all years and years ago...especially when the leftist in the msm were putting him down all over the place about it,...refused to let him on the networks, Fox wasn't even started yet I don't think....now he is their big favorite know-it- all when it comes to military plans and secrets....again!

Disgraceful...despicable.

Oh, is he the one who wrote

Oh, is he the one who wrote about Kennedy being on pain killers and all his womanizing?

Yeah, thou shall not write poorly of the left's icons.


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John,Well, a lot about commun

John,

Well, a lot about communism and the Hollywood crowd too...but the big shocker out of the book was Monroe and Jack have a daughter to this day....big secret though...to this day!

Monroe and Castro...blah blah blah..a lot of stuff I already knew.

Point is the left were besides themselves!

Now he's their bestest buddy!

All Knowing...All Seeing!

but the big shocker out of

but the big shocker out of the book was Monroe and Jack have a daughter to this day....big secret though...to this day!

No kidding!? Hmmm. Well, Jack was a sailor, and you know how them sailors are ;)


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Lord Haw Haw broadcasts again

Lord Haw Haw broadcasts again.

And these traitorous SOB's ha

And these traitorous SOB's have the temerity to say, "Don't question our patriotism"? If this miserable POS is returning to the country, I think we should frogmarch his sorry a** across the tarmac to a plane back to the Islamic dictatorship of his choice.

Edited to remove what I really would like to do personally to him and Ramsey Clark.

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

Demon,Thanks so much for incl

Demon,

Thanks so much for including the other piece of total traitorous work...Ramsey Clark!

I truly was trying to remember his name when I wrote my first post...that was the first thing that came to mind, I just could not remember his name quick enough, I was so furious after reading the link Noel provided...two peas in a pod.

I agree with you in other words!

LOL!

BT

BT, and to think this guy was AG of the US?????!!! WTF??

Sinful isn't it grrrf?Almost

Sinful isn't it grrrf?

Almost spooky!

Then again when I listened to the Maher video I think Noel posted last night and ZBIG was on spewing his traitorous BS...that made me more furious than anything Maher could ever say...to think he was Jimmah Carters right hand man when it came to National Security I think it was...now he helped draft the dems latest bill that passed in the House to slow bleed our military Friday...and he was proud to announce that on Mahers show...that he helped draft that piece of treasonous BS.

These enemies within are still working full force for this country's total defeat...all for their agenda and power. I detest them with every inch of my 130 lb. body!

What a tangled web we weave.

BT

Yeah, old Jimmah Cahta, foreign policy expert along with his buddy Zebrinski. They just continue to try in their quest to allow the enemy to succeed. It worked so well back in 70s!!! Now look what we have reaped? Thanks Jimmah. Anything for power for the lose-at-all-costs, defeatist Democrats. How rich. I abhor them as well. They make me SICK!!

Fortunately, this guy knows a

Fortunately, this guy knows absolutely nothing of value; otherwise, he could be accused of giving something useful to the enemy. Lucky for him he knows absolutely nothing. It’s like shooting an empty gun.

I see others are thinking along the same lines. However, we shouldn’t ignore Rosie O’Donnell. Maybe this is really just a clever CIA plot to provoke war with Iran, or it might be a Monty Pythonesque “Confuse a Cat” strategy. The CIA may have asked Hersh to play the fool out of love for his country. Maybe the agents suggested it as a practical joke, but Hersh took them seriously. He's always falling for those pranks.

If we took Hersh seriously (which I don’t recommend) we can trace his thinking here, because he’s done it so poorly. In service to the truth, Hersh plainly wants to warn the Iranians that Bush is building up to an attack. He’s serving the “journalistic higher truth,” and all that. One wonders, however. If Iran is:

  • pursuing nuclear weapons,
  • frustrating U.N. inspectors,
  • arming Iraqi insurgents with explosives that pierce U.S. armor, and
  • kidnapping British soldiers

… Does Hersh think the Iranians needed his warning? Does Hersh imagine that the Iranians couldn’t have figured this out by themselves?  After all, there must have been at least one Iranian who tugged his friend on the shoulder and whispered, “You know, the Americans might not enjoy our playful antics …”

However, I can’t recommend taking Hersh seriously. After all, he does quite enough of that by himself.

If I'm not mistaken, when a

If I'm not mistaken, when a ship crosses over into another countries waters, especially those that are not allies, this is what happens. We would do it in a heart beat, we have and we will continue to. If we and the UK don't over react to this common practice, I bet they'll be let go.

Research this issue. It's not an unprovoked kidnapping... this is how it works with countries in international waters.

BtM, are you really a moron

BtM, are you really a moron, or do you just play one on Newsbusters?

So, the Iranians claim they took John Bull's sailors in Iranian waters, and you believe them.

I suppose you believe also Iran's nuclear program is only for peaceful, energy purposes.


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Were you there arse-hole when

Were you there arse-hole when this happened..or do you choose to believe the enemies side and some leftist here in this country above our men and allies fighting this war to give you the right to show your idiocy here every single day you troll.

And how do you know the Brits

And how do you know the Brits were in Iranian territorial waters? 

Iran and Iraq dispute just whose territorial waters those are.  You don't suppose the Iranians were using military force in disputed waters that some folks in Iraq might think are theirs, do you?

You wouldn't think that siezing persons or vessels in the territorial waters of another state might be an act of war, would you?

Back in the day of Teddy Roosevelt, we wouldn't need to ask what was going to happen next, now would we?   P-E-D-I-C-A-R-I-S  A-F-F-A-I-R.  Shucks, back in the days of TR, it took pirates with real cojones to do something like this.

The sailors said they were.

The sailors said they were.

Did you hear from them BM?We

Did you hear from them BM?

We think water-boarding here is torture...

LMAO!

BTM

The Iranian sailors? Of course they would say that. Like the true moonbat, you take the side of the enemy. Surprise, surprise.

You mean sailors being held c

You mean sailors being held captive by Iran?  You don't suppose they are under any duress do you?  Iran wouldn't torture or threaten anybody, especially a bunch of nice infidel boys like the Brits, now would they?

Blame, do us all a favor and get your head out of your ass.

You mean, we couldn't rely

You mean, we couldn't rely on their "confessions" if they were under duress or had been tortured?

I thought duress/torture was a legitimate means of obtaining information.

I guarantee you ONE thing 'me

I guarantee you ONE thing 'merlin', they don't use waterboarding in Iran. They use fire, knives, needles, and inhumane pain. Go onto one of the filesharing networks, enter a search for "beheading" and "torture". Take a look at some of the videos that are readily available that show just how sadistic someone can be while torturing. Lol. Don't compare U.S. tactics to Middle-Eastern tactics. Not even the same thing. I saw one where they tied a guy in between two cars. Not good stuff. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You accepted the information

You accepted the information produced since it fit your argument, that is assuming the Iranians didn't just lie about the whole thing.  Therefore, to you and those others who think like you, the end justifies the means. 

Where is your sense of outrage that the Iranians might be torturing somebody?  I thought you lib artist types found this sort of thing really offensive.  Could it be you are just hypocrites?

First, you fail to distingu

First, you fail to distinguish between unlawful combatants and lawful combatants. The Brit sailors were in uniform, in the Navy of a recognized nation, and I'd venture to say they were carrying a Geneva Convention Identification.

The Islamic Republic of Iran is a signatory to the Geneva Conventions. As such, they are obligated to treat lawful combatant prisoners of another signatory nation as stipulated in those Conventions.


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Interesting tidbit! I did no

Interesting tidbit! I did not know that.

BtM, you're serious, aren't y

BtM, you're serious, aren't you?!

Have you seen anything of those captured sailors? Have they been on video saying they were in Iranian waters? I haven't. All I've heard is the Iranian's saying the sailors confessed, and umm, I just don't think I believe them on that point.

I do find it curious that a leftist would believe the Iranian government when they say the sailor's have confessed, but when Ackmadinnerjacket says Iran is going to destroy Israel and the United States they say it's just rhetoric and they don't mean it.


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Amen to that NL...While I'm

Amen to that NL...

While I'm at it...I am saying a prayer for those men and one women who are captive tonight....along with Tony Snow.

And of course for the safety of all of our brave military and allies fighting for the survival of all of us against the radical Jihadist Muslims that want to control all, Iran has control...for now.

Just wanted to throw that in.

NL207:I long for the days whe

NL207:

I long for the days when we would allow the Diplo's forty eight hours to negotiate while the strike force assembles.

The diplos would then approach the bad guys and say

"I REALLY recommend you releasing those guys immediately, because in 48 hours it is gonna be bad.  Real OLD Testiment bad...."

Then, when the bad guys do not respond, or try to go to the media, whole corps of their armed forces VANISH overnight.

The message that is thusly received is do not mess with Uncle Sam....

PAX AMERICANA BABYYYYYYY!!!!!

BD, vanish over night in like

BD, vanish over night in like a big ball of fire and brimstone?

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Yeah, but Bass, the State Dep

Yeah, but Bass, the State Department doesn't work that way anymore.

Instead of realizing that an occasional use of force serves as a wonderful example for others, the Foggy Bottom denizens will always be against a use of force.

The statee's will usually drag out negotiations, buying time for "A peaceful resolution" which usually encourages our enemies ala The Embassy Siege in Tehran,  While no force is used (THe liberal way)  We get hammered by our enemies who no longer respect us.

I believe it is genetic.  Conservatives join the military.  Liberals join the state department.

Yes, BD, your right. A shame

Yes, BD, your right. A shame really. If 9-11 dident hammer the message home for these libs, I fear there is nothing short of their own death that will convince them. And because of them, good folks die.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

The dipomats are at an impa

The dipomats are at an impasse. Ours stand up and say, "We are through talking." As they leave, one of the aides opens a laptop and starts a PowerPoint presentation for their counterparts, the presentation set to music, and adds, "Just a message for you".

Oh, we'll be coming over the horizon when we come

We'll be coming over the horizon when we come

We'll be coming over the horizon, we'll be coming over the horizon

Oh, we'll be coming over the horizon when we come

We'll be flying B-2 bombers when we come

We'll be flying B-2 bombers when we come

We'll be flying B-2 bombers, we'll be flying B-2 bombers

We'll be flying B-2 bombers when we come

We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come

Oh, we'll be driving Abrams tanks when wecome

We'll be driving Abrams tanks, we'll be driving Abrams tanks

We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come

We'll be sailing aircraft carriers when we come

We'll be sailing aircraft carriers when we come

We'll be sailing aircraft carriers, we'll be sailing aircraft carriers

We'll be sailing aircraft carriers when we come

End of diplomatic talks...


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Blamethemedia, What are yo

Blamethemedia,

What are you sticking up for Iran for? That is ONE SCARY country if you ask me. Think about it, with ALL the petroleum they have at their fingertips, why the hell do think they need a nuclear power infrastructure? Really, use your brain on this one. A middle-eastern country needing nuclear energy. Hmmmm.

If you're a real liberal, fight the destruction of forests, fight inner-city violence, fight inhumane treatment of animals, fight poverty et. al. But sticking up for Iran???? That's not liberal, that's STUPID!!!

KC Mulville

KC Mulville, doesn't Hershey remind you of Sean Penn, mr I shake Saddam's hand along with 2 democrat congresspersons right before the shock and awe ?

 I have no doubt Hershey gave the Iranians every document and leak he has acquired about the situation. He hopes they take it all to the UN, and use it for their protection or absolution or whatever.

 The libs think THEY ( Iranian mullahs and dictators) are the peaceful earth lovers and opressed by evil Bush USA - of course the libs are going to "help the underdog"...the poor victim, the loser, the liar, the cheat, the criminal, the opressed...the poor Iranians who have lived under the evil foreign policy containment and discrimination against sand people the oil stealing USA war machine has hammered them relentlessly with for decades. They would be free were it not for the USA...now they areour victim, and deserve our(Seymour's) help before they get screwed by the USA again....

 Of course he gave them all he has, and wether or not that is nothing I do not know, but suspect it isn't. It's not like our bureaucracy is filled with tight lipped conservatives. There are leaks all the time, one or two a week that is "investigated"( Plame scandal info) and certainly computers make that quite easy to do. That's what a tiny usb 2gig thumbdrive is for. Or email. Or missing FBI computers, or harddrives gone from the national laboritories.

 Hersh spewed all he had hard and soft data, and felt he was doing Iran the favor it deserves, in his opinion.

First, as I hope is apparent

First, as I hope is apparent from my post, I just can’t bring myself to take these guys seriously. The fact that liberal celebrities take themselves seriously doesn’t force me to do the same.

Still, you can look at this as an episode in a larger story. One of the complaints about liberals is that they believe that truth is bigger than America, and that Americans have no monopoly on truth and justice. Therefore, they believe that if the American government is acting against the greater good, they have the right (and obligation) to do whatever’s necessary, even if it frustrates official American policy. Now, they’re right about the first statement, but wrong about its implication. It’s true that American citizenship isn’t a badge of infallibility, but that doesn’t mean that individual private citizens have the right to replace national policy with their own private views.

Government isn’t perfect. It is, however, ours. It’s something we share. We share its privileges and we share its responsibilities. Conservatives get furious when we feel that liberals exploit every privilege, but they don’t share in the responsibilities. Seymour Hersh enjoys the right of free speech, but he feels no responsibility to the soldiers who protect that right, and who may suffer if the Iranians discover something useful about an American response.

The right of free speech is not the only clause of the constitution that you have to respect.

How dare anybody question

How dare anybody question his patriotism.

Fl...Pardon me...Surely you j

Fl...

Pardon me...

Surely you jest.

Correct?

His profile says "recording a

His profile says "recording arts". So who knows?

mm...He posts and runs...typi

mm...

He posts and runs...typical little troll.

Reminds me of Lillie-pad.

LOL! I actually started BUST

LOL! I actually started BUSTING UP LAUGHING the other nite in bed when I though of Lilli-Pads alias. lol. "rainlilli". haha I just starting laughing again. The best!!

Yeah, Seymour Hersh should move to France or something. I don't trust the guy.

I was being sarcastic. Why

I was being sarcastic. Why did you call me a name. That's not very nice.

more info on Iran for BtM and Fl

Hey Fl...you showed back up!

Here's some info for you...and BtM whenever he gets back ...read it and weep!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8O45UN82&show_article=1

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/d26b393e-dbbe-11db-9233-000b5df10621.html

treason, n. The offense of at

treason, n. The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which one owes allegiance, either by making war against the state or by materially supporting its enemies. -- Also termed high treason; alta proditi

Source: Blacks Law Dictionary, 8th Edition

materially supporting its enemies. Thats what I see

mm...Good deduction.

mm...

Good deduction.

Well it's so obvious. I mean

Well it's so obvious. I mean, you just can't tell secrets about your country's military no matter WHO you are. Listen, I like Persian woman and all, but Iranian's are the enemy right now. Seymour shouldn't be speaking the way he is. He has 1st Amendment rights in THIS country but when he starts talking on Islamic radio stations about our government, that opens up a whole new problem. Treason is not a protected right!

I'm dumbfounded. I can't ev

I'm dumbfounded. I can't even begin to make a response to this moron's carbon emissions of talking like a traitor.

If Democrats do have a bleeding heart, and do feel for Americans, they'd call this bastard out and hang him by his balls.

Black's Law Dictionary is irr

Black's Law Dictionary is irrelevant.  For purposes of Hersh as a US Citizen, treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution itself.  Article III  section 3.   

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

Looks to me like Hersh is giving aid and comfort.

Nice call

Nice call

So I'm sure the same would ap

So I'm sure the same would apply to anyone who daylighted one of their government's own operatives who was working on proliferation of nuclear arms WOULDN'T IT?

blarsen

blarsen,

Yes, it would, as long as someone was charged with such, and convicted by a jury of his or her peers.

On the other hand, if after a 22-month long investigation, the Special Prosecutor in charge of finding wrong-doing couldn't find enough evidence to even charge anyone -- let alone prosecute them -- such would not be the case. Then, in a democracy such as ours, with our system of justice, no one should be continually portrayed as having committed such a treasonous act.

Unfortunately, folks on the left, in the media, and such as yourself feel that regardless of what a Special Prosecutor finds, and irrespective of the lack of charges filed -- let alone a conviction -- those investigated are always guilty if it fits the prescribed political agenda. 

Does that answer your question?   ns

You certainly can't be referr

You certainly can't be referring to Scooter Libby who was tried and convicted of four charges including lying and obstructing a leak investigation?

Ah, but no has been convicted

Ah, but no has been convicted of leaking the identity of a "covert" CIA agent.

From former CIA agent Larry J

From former CIA agent Larry Johnson:

"A few of my classmates, and Valerie was one of these, became a non-official cover officer. That meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed."

That means covert.

I know Larry Johnson

I know Larry Johnson. I watched his hate the USA screed on C-Span.

 I also know why he is a FORMER cia agent.

He sent me - personally sent me - the most foul vulgar cursing disgusting email I have ever seen in my entire life, straight from his consulting firm site. It would blow the eyeballs out of your head.

He is a filthy low life lying skumbag, with a disgusting vulgar streak, that certainly the cia could not continue to put up with.

 I'd love to expose him by making it public. That would make it so nice for skum supporters like you.

 

Doesn't drivel like that dese

Doesn't drivel like that deserve to be published to expose the charlatan who wrote it?

Indeed.

Indeed. Think of it as a public service, SP.

SP...I totally agree with you

SP...

I totally agree with you about Larry Johnson, have for years.

He is a monster..a real live very filthy monster.

Period.

And she was withdrawn from th

And she was withdrawn from that duty as a resut of the discovery of Russian spy Aldrich Ames in 1997.

"When, in 1997, the CIA began to fear Plame had been given away - along with other covert overseas operatives - to the Russians by the double agent Aldrich Ames, she was brought back to Washington. There, at a reception given by the then Turkish ambassador, her eyes drifted across the room to meet those of retired US ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV. "

So you have substituted a man

So you have substituted a man named Larry Johnson for the American justice system, blarsen??  The question was, was anyone indicted or convicted of said act. 

Not that it will matter bla

Not that it will matter blarsen, but libby was interviewed by the FBI on and around October 14 and November 26, 2003, where the perjury allegedly occurred, and Richard Armitage confessed to the DoJ in early October 2003. This means that Fitzgerald knew that Libby wasn't the leaker. How can someone be lying about something they didn't even do? And why did the investigation and subsequent indictment of Libby continue if Armitage already had confessed?

This is nothing but a witch hunt.

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Scooter Libby: Convicted of

Scooter Libby: Convicted of lying about telling the truth about a liar.

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John,So well said and perfect

John,

So well said and perfectly put!

Sums it up to a tee!

Unbelievably sad for him and his family.

BT'er, wish I had come up w

BT'er, wish I had come up with it, but I'm not nearly even half that clever. Read it somewhere, but don't remember where, so I can't give attribution.


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John...Just Glad you remember

John...

Just Glad you remembered it and passed it on for those of us who care and feel the same!

BT

BT - Have you gone to bed yet?

acumen...LOL!Yes if you mean

acumen...

LOL!

Yes if you mean since last night and early this morning!

That was quite a ride and I blame Noel and that treasonous traitor Sy Hersh!

It was dead...and bam...the thread filled up so fast..with a lot of outrage!

As it should of been...

BT - You're Gonna Love This

I'll have to catch up.  I've been watching this video for the last 45 minutes. If you don't have time now, bookmark it.  It's definitely a must watch.  Best explanation of modern lib***lism I have ever seen.  Going to link to it for a few days on Open Threads.  Explains sooooooo much.  Lecture by no other than one of Bill Maher's former writers. Delicious........

Let me know what you think. Going to check out your email now and will respond. Got to get to bed after that. Starting a new employee tomorrow and I only want to appear my usual half-brain dead self. Later...........

It's booked Dano!Errr...I mea

It's booked Dano!

Errr...I mean acumen!

I will have to catch it soon though...I can tell by the posts written below!

May have to wait a couple of days though to catch up on all the things I didn't get done by clicking on NB's!...

Lol!

blarsen

blarsen,

No. I'm not referring to Libby. He wasn't charged or convicted of outing a covert agent. Have you been sleeping for the past year?

You asked if treason applied to someone that "daylighted" a covert agent, and were clearly implying members of the Bush administration. As none have been charged with such, treason does not apply.

What don't you follow about this?   ns

And Clinton wasn't charged wi

And Clinton wasn't charged with getting a blowjob, but that's all the righties want to talk about.

What did Hersh say that was anything other than his own opinon?

You are obviously an illitera

You are obviously an illiterate.  When we discuss Clinton here, we do not discuss the blow job as any more than a joke.  We discuss things like perjury, obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, accepting bribes from foreign interests and high treason.

I think I can make a case that Clinton was guilty at the least of every one of these charges.  Would you care to defend him?   I think you need a good humilation which is all your left wing drivel deserves.

Go ahead and make your case o

Go ahead and make your case on all of the charges you've listed.

Oh, good, NL

Oh, good, NL.  You've dragged the illiterate, trash talking, anti military, anti American slacker out of his hole.  

We don't shoot many varmints

We don't shoot many varmints while they are hiding in their holes, now do we?

Let's start with perjury.&quo

Let's start with perjury.

"civil contempt citation by Federal Judge Susan Webber Wright for testifying falsely in deposition in Paula Corbin Jones sexual harasssment lawsuit"

Since you are intellectually challenged, I will illuminate.  The words "testifying falsely" above are semantically equivalent to "giving false testimony under oath", the definnition of perjury.

Not a blowjob at all.

Your turn.

Actually, Dems are the only

Actually, Dems are the only ones who ever accuse Clinton of ... that voluntary act.  They seem to get a great deal of comfort from saying it and believing it was his only crime or misdeed. 

blarsen crawled back into his hole?

My goodness, NL, seems you scared blarsen back into his hole again.....

Nothing he said is a secret

Nothing he said is a secret. He didn't reveal anything that wasn't already in the public domain.

Wanting to hang him is wishing him dead. I'd like to point this out as another example of that here on NB.

Yes, but I think it is logica

Yes, but I think it is logical for people to make an inquiry into where Seymour Hersh stands. Seymour has said himself that he has contacts in "high" places of the government. If he is this blatantly unpatriotic on live radio, what goes on behind closed doors? Maybe he shouldn't be so "priveleged" to get information about our operations.

BM...Just go away...back to t

BM...

Just go away...back to the sites that appeciate the likes of you and your games.

The man is overseas...spewing rhetoric against our great country...during a time of war, they have 15 military men they captured illegally from the UK and you think you can come here and criticize us for our opinions...they want to destroy Israel and the US...that means you too nit-wit...you and your ilk are not special.

Iran is our enemy....Get the heck lost.

ruffling feathers

Iran is our enemy because bush says so.

They didn't attack us and neither did Iraq.

you guys are a bunch of war mongers.

Afganistan is not questioned, why? because it's legit. Iraq is questioned because it was pre-emptive. not legit. bogus. Even our police can't arrest someone because they think they may commit a crime. We better take these countries out because they may pose a threat some day.

So, we should bomb: N korea, iran, syria, saudi arabia (the terrorists were from there), palestine, and Hugo Chavez, whereever he may be on his "the smell of sulfur still" tour.

Who have I forgotten? And, when does the draft begin? Cause we don't have enough boys and girls to go fight all these wars AND pick the crops that are rotting on the vine because there are no illegals to pick them.

Iran is the enemy because it

Iran is the enemy because it is providing weaponry and advice to various terrorists and insurgents in Iraq who are killing our troops there.  Iran is also directly responsible for equipping and training Hezbollah, who launched the deadly truck bombing of the US Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983, not to mention waging war on our ally Israel.

By your reckoning, we could not be sure that Imperial Japan was enemy after Pearl Harbor, could we not?

"Iran is the enemy because it

"Iran is the enemy because it is providing weaponry and advice to various terrorists and insurgents in Iraq who are killing our troops there."

Are you so sure? Regarding today's bombing throughout Iraq:

"Al-Maliki is said to fear rising support among U.S.-allied Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan for an Iraqi national unity government led by former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, a favorite of Washington."

Seems some Austrian made snip

Seems some Austrian made sniper rifles that were sold to Iran turned up in the hands of terrorists in Iraq.   All the references are here, Larsen.

So what beyond you liberal religion makes you think Iran has NOT been supplying arms used to kill our people?. 

Then there is the matter of the rockets supplied to Hezbollah by Iran, which Hezbollah used to assault Israel.  Would you like to deny that as well?  I hope so.  I'd like to prove you wrong once again.

BtM, you aren't just playin

BtM, you aren't just playing a moron on Newsbusters!

Iran is our enemy because bush says so.

The Islamic Republic of Iran has been our enemy since 1979. We have not had diplomatic relationships since that time. Bush was just willing to stand up and call them what they are - evil.

They didn't attack us and neither did Iraq.

Iran attacked us in 1979. An embassy in a host nation is a sovereign part of the guest nation. Siezing an embassy is an attack on that nation - it's an act of war as surely as if they came to Washington, DC and siezed the White House.

you guys are a bunch of war mongers.

I'll accept that.

Who have I forgotten?

Fwance.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

you guys are a bunch of war

you guys are a bunch of war mongers.

I'll accept that.

That was funny.  At least you're honest.

Blame

Yeah honesty is a funny thing. It's anathema to a liberal!

...and you BtM are pathetic.

...and you BtM are pathetic.

We make war that we may live

We make war that we may live in peace.  ARISTOTLE

What does a dead white guy know anyway?

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

The good part about bombing

The good part about bombing France now is that we'd kill as many spineless liberals as we would Islamofascists.

Yes by GOD, we are warmongers.... we love the smell of napalm in the morning. To us, what is best in life is to crush our enemies, to see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentations of their women. No poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making other bastards die for their country. No war has ever been won through diplomatic negotiations, and if we were to stop bickering and negotiating, the whole ordeal would be over in less than a year.

Nuke Iran, Nuke N. Korea, Nuke Syria, Nuke China and anyone else who dared to mess with us. Tell Russia to keep their distance and they'll have tons of investment cash... because everyone knows that Russians love money more than national pride.

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"The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Yeah, I don't think a militar

Yeah, I don't think a military that didn't have a few "warmongers" would be all that effective. Can you imagine? "Now now guys, put that gun down and let's talk over tea..."

Yeah, I don't think a milit

Yeah, I don't think a military that didn't have a few "warmongers" would be all that effective

Hehe...af the end of Desert Storm in '91, I thought since we had all our warmaking stuff out, it would be a good idea to take care of Syria and Libya on our way back home.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

Should of John...Thanks all o

Should of John...

Thanks all of you fine men and women for your service.

Words are inadequate.

BtM and his ilk wouldn't know what the word appreciation meant..let alone spell it.

okay, maybe the term "

okay, maybe the term "armchair warmongers" would have more precisely captured what I was saying.

However:

Warmonger: someone who is anxious to encourage a people or nation to go to war. It is often used to describe militaristic leaders, or mercenaries, commonly with the implication that they either may have selfish motives for encouraging war, or may actually enjoy war.

By etymology a warmonger is literally a seller of war, from monger used as a transitive verb, meaning a peddler.

Never forget about those two

Never forget about those two beautiful towers in New York City that fell completely to the ground on September 11th. I don't remember anyone "warmongering" before that happened. American's, conservative or liberal, did not start this war BM. America was attacked on the homeland. Thousands of people died that day. Plus, the Middle East has been bitch-slapping America since the 1970's. Honestly, I hope I can one day visit Tehran when it is a Democratic nation. The people are wonderful people who unfortunately have to live under the rule of a few dispicable freaks. War with Iran would be good. We have the power, why not use it?

We have the power mostlymoderate ?

We have the power mostlymoderate ? I thought the newsweeds current liberal cry was that our military that spends more than the next 18 nations in the world combined every year, is stretched thin to the breaking point. It's ruined, and cannot function.

 I know, they scream in between all the pretend support for the troops that our gigantic 800 pound crushing gorilla can wipe the earth, but this week it's all about being underfunded, undersupplied, no armor, no bullets, no healthcare, and by golly building #18 almost took down 9 divisions all on it's own.

 Can I get a pic of building 18 ? Will someone tell me how many tens of thousands are housed there in squalor ? Has it broken the will of all our elite forces already, or will it next week finish that task ?

 These are things the people need to know. There are mountains over there, for pete sakes. That means they win, we lose. We're crushed and broken, incapable of mounting an offense. We can't even properly seal the palm sized paint peel above Pvt. Spencer's shower stall. How can our soldiers be expected to fight or recover when latex flecks threaten their clean time ?

"War with Iran would be good.

"War with Iran would be good."

Well then, why don't you sign up and be the first to glorify yourself on the battlefield in a hail of bullets just like Sgt. Rock or are you afraid to get out of your chair?

Yawn. That is so 2004. I am s

Yawn.

That is so 2004. I am surprised you did not bring up the Bush girls not enlisting. As Homer Simpson would say: "Boring!".

blars, I'm sooooo disappoin

blars, I'm sooooo disappointed in you, though not surprised. Why do you have to disguise your ad hominem attack? Just come out and call him a chickenhawk. C'mon, you know you want to; just let your inner liberal, BDS anti-war, anti-miltary self flow...you'll feel much better.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

blars...I would be very happy

blars...I would be very happy to do so. As a matter of fact, I was loaded up, rifle in hand, claymores in ruck, ready to go to Iran once. Sitting on a plane, a C-130 at Ft Campbell Ky. Ready, willing and able. Only thing that stoped us was Jimmy Carter, and his lack of courage. Now, that said, why are you not ready to go?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Leftists don't join the military, bass

Bass, you know perfectly well that leftists don't generally join the military.  They just whine, bitch and moan about those who step up and about those who really support them.

RJ, for years leftists have s

RJ, for years leftists have suckeled the tit of liberty and drank the milk of freedom all bought and paid for by someone else. Then have the gall to curse those who paid for it. I bet, if you took the liberty from all those who had never served, and will never serve, and made military service a requirement for citizenship and the right to vote, they would then scream to high heaven. But their words are empty. None of them have the courage to stand up and be counted. When it comes right down to it, they cower in the corners and beg for someone to save them. Gutless curs. Everyone of them.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

bassndude

bass  'ja ever notice how much cleaning up has had to be done all these years after indecisive Jimmy was in office??? I am not sure this is true, but I heard he made his (in)decison after reading JFK's "How to Leave Your Allies Stranded at The Bay of Pigs".

LOL misterbill...that could v

LOL misterbill...that could very well be. I know Jimmy never impressed me. The fact that he could have been reelected is what made me decide to take my discharge and run. Then when Reagan won, I kicked myself. Still do.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

I already served my time and

I already served my time and that was long ago.  Bass served his too.   And if they'd take us, we would go again. 

Maybe you should do something to protect your country's interests instead of constantly undermining the efforts of those who are trying to do this.

Hey All y'all! I got some

Hey All y'all!

I got some great news for you! If you're ex-military or just an honest-to-God hell-fired up patriot you CAN go fight! You hear that?

"And if they'd take us, we would go again."

You CAN go again and relive the ol' glory days of Vienam, Cambodia or where ever you have the fondest memories of battle from! You can sign up at (copy and paste this):

www.blackwaterusa.co...

Have fun! You're government needs you...don't forget to write!

blars....You aren't worth the

blars....

You aren't worth the ink.

What I would love to say to you would get me kicked off....

But I am sure you can use your wild imagination...now can't ya?

about what I'd expect of a terrorist enabling coward, blarsen

About what I'd expect of a disgusting, leftist, terrorist-enabling coward, blarsen....but at least your true anti-American colors have come out.

I will look into it--but

 will look into it--but before I go (if they accept me), would you please PM me with your address so I can stop by to thank you in person?  Thanks.

Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?

Sir Walter Scott

I don't see that your link ha

I don't see that your link has ANYTHING to do with the US Military. 

We weren't discussing our former service here, Larsen.  We were asking what service YOU plan to render other than tucking tail and running at the first sign of trouble.

Now, do you have anything factual to add to the debate here or are you nothing more than the mass of misonformed, misguided and delusional beliefs contained in your posts? 

blardsen

I would sign up in a NY second if they would take me. I have already served a long time ago. I am too old for combat. So, I wish they would form A CD (Civilian Defense) corps as we had in WW2. We also had air wardens. As a CD member, I would build a list of people like you so we Americans could keep a watch on you. When (and if) another attack happens to us, there will be a lot of angry people looking to find you. I will be there to protect you. If another attack does NOT happen, we will be there to drag you out and make you kiss GW Bush's butt.

Have a nice day.

to the cowardly enablers of terrorism on this board....

You gotta love it when selfish enablers of terrorism like blarsen, Chumpley, BTM, and the other leftists on this board try to throw down their empty challenge.  Having never served themselves, they crow, "well why don't you go?"  Problem is, there are many on this board who are currently in the military and many others (yes, I am one) who have already served.  I think I can speak for most, if not all when I say we have nothing but contempt for those loudmouth anti-American cowards.

Yes by GOD, we are warmonge

Yes by GOD, we are warmongers

I think that was in the book of world domination in the bible, wasn't it? Didn't Jesus talk about going out and killing others, being verbally cruel, no wait, that's the republicans, sorry, Jesus talked about peace and love and tolerance and forgiveness. Geez, he kind of sounds like a liberal!!

jokes on you.

Don't believe in the Bible

Don't believe in the Bible my man... I am your worst nightmare... a conservative who isn't a Christian, so who cannot succumb to your pansy ass 'hypocrisy' argument.

By the way, you fall under the Thomas Paine quote below quite well. Get a better understanding of what has kept the wolves at bay, then complain about us.

BTM, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? Our men in uniform have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for the dead terrorists we kill, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. That those civilian's deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, while tragic, have saved lives. And our existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that we provide, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, we suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, we don't give a damn what you think.

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"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly." ~ Thomas Paine

You should give a damn what

You should give a damn what your commander in chief thinks. He's thinking us into unwinnable wars. ( I want to win. I hope we do. I want us to win all the wars, I don't wish for defeat).

Unwinnable wars? In whose e

Unwinnable wars? In whose estimation? Liberal nay-sayers? I think the biggest obstacle we've face in Iraq has been the outcry from within the United States.

The MSM and the anti-war crowd, and that includes the demos in Congress and most of you liberals, have counted every death since the fall of Baghdad. You have cried about the deaths of our servicemen, celebrated every milestone as you've counted the dead.

Yet, before the start of the Iraq war, when estimates were as high as 10000 dead just to take Baghdad, very few of the naysayers were saying NO! Are we going to fight our wars and mark our successes or failures based on the number of dead?


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

Not true. The United States

Not true. The United States has the ability to win any war we go into. I used to think we couldn't win these wars either, BM. However, I came to the realization that it isn't the firepower, the troops, the missiles, the aircraft or the ships...it is about the citizens at home that keep a nation from winning a war. When you root for the enemy, you damage our country in one of the most traitorous ways imaginable. Think about it for awhile BM. Think LONG and HARD about what makes you mad. What shortcomings in your life would cause you to not support the greatest nation in the history of mankind? If you hate Bush, fine. But don't hurt your country just to prove a point about Bush. Deep in your heart, is there really anyone better that the U.S. of A??

Does anything at all sink in

Does anything at all sink in to your head BtM?

Anything?

Read these fine posts from those that have been there done that again tomorrow...er...later today.

Think long and hard.

Once in your miserable life...do something good for yourself.

Good idea zapper. You obvious

Good idea zapper. You obviously fall into the former category of your TJ quote.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Good idea zapper. You obvious

Good idea zapper. You obviously fall into the former category of your TJ quote.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

How so? How do I esteem t

How so? How do I esteem too lightly, the freedom we have? I have nothing but admiration and respect for those men and women who stand guard against the wolves. My family has sacrificed for this country time and time again, and if called, I too will do my part. We have a volunteer force, not one of conscription. You liberals don't seem to understand that. Everyone in the country has a duty to take part in support of our military as they go out and make sure that our freedom is secure.

Your side thinks that military action is unnecessary, and that anyone involved in it, or who supports it is an enemy of the country. How did we throw off the yolk of oppression before? What does our Declaration of Independence say? How about our Constitution? We are in this fight for the world, not just for our country. While I know that some conservatives like Buchanan are protectionists, and just don't understand that the war must be fought for the world, not for just our country, Liberals like you want our ideology defeated. To you, we are your enemy who must be completely vanquished. For now, you think it's still possible to do this with lies and deceit using our own law abiding nature against us, but soon, you will realize that with information also comes the ability to expose lies faster and your side will eventually succumb to your violent nature and attack just as the Bolsheviks did in Russia all those years ago.

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"A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." ~ Thomas Paine

You had me at lamentation, LB

You had me at lamentation, LBZ...

It's looking like you might be needing the Sarcasm Sledgehammer for some of the people here.

What is so funny is that al

What is so funny is that all of those quotes I strung together are from movies or from famous people in history..... to catch the essence of what BTM was doing by calling us warmongers. So funny that only you caught that.

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"We can only reason from what is; we can reason on actualities, but not on possibilities." ~ Thomas Paine

Don't diplomats have immuni

Don't diplomats have immunity?

YES, Blame.  That was the pr

YES, Blame.  That was the problem with the taking of the US embassy in 1979.  And those thugs are now in power in Teheran.

Having said that, I would echo those who distinguish between the government of Iran and its people, many of whom are pro-America.  And many of whom are fomenting a revolt against their gov't.  This, in fact, is why Teheran - or rather, the mullahs in power - ordered the taking of those 15 British sailors hostage - to change the subject on the domestic front.

Be a clown somewhere else

How out of touch with reality can you be?  Is your world entirely consist of Myspace, puppies and stickers?  Well I say they are the enemy outside of the hundreds of reasons, which I won't post the multitudes of which you are either ignorant of or typically refuse to believe the threat, the primary one is the providing of EFP's in theatre.  Based on your posts I wouldn't expect you to know or even acknowledge that or even understand the history of exporting terrorism.  In addition your ignorance of mission accomplishment shows quite extensively as there have yet to be taskings that we've been unable to follow through with based on our personnel manning.

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

HEY!!!!What's wrong with pu

HEY!!!!

What's wrong with puppies and stickers???

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"We can only reason from what is; we can reason on actualities, but not on possibilities." ~ Thomas Paine

LMAO......Like nothing! They'

LMAO......Like nothing! They're awesome!

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

First off, the grammar is p

First off, the grammar is part of the problem: Is your world entirely consist of Myspace, puppies and stickers?

And my world entirely consists of sunshine and lollipops, and sometimes stickers.

Figures you would miss the po

Figures you would miss the point and be able to respond, lol, what an asshat, whoops, that should be Asshat.

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

Did you ask me a question?

Did you ask me a question?  I must have missed it, I was taking off my hat.

Just watching you skirt aroun

Just watching you skirt around responding in typical clown fashion and inability to read a post.  So where are all these taskings we've been unable to accomplish because as you say "we don't have enough boys and girls"?  Your understanding of the exporting of terrorism and support over the past thirty years and how that is not perceived as a threat.  You talk a lot of smack, so back it up.

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

That's not called "grammar".

That's not called "grammar". That's called a "typo". It happens.

I think a "typo"

I think a "typo" would be: Deos your world... something like transposing 2 letters, for example.

Using the wrong word all together is not a typo.

Just to clarify.  But who really cares?  I doesn't.

Wow! A real live leftist on a

Wow! A real live leftist on at this time of the morning. Stick around and let's talk, or have a conversation as hillary would say.

War Monger #9

Come on Blamethebush. What wo

Come on Blamethebush. What would you like to pontificate on?

War Monger #9

Well BM...We could do like yo

Well BM...

We could do like your fearless leader who did absolutely ZILCH about this mess and left it for the next President...and bombed the hell out of every single place you mentioned just like he did in Serbia/Kosovo/Yugoslavia.

Okay?

Btw...We fought the wrong side there in my opinion...Al-Qaeda was there long before we got there, along with other places along with Chechnya and using places in Italy too...and Clinton knew it...they and group related allies are world-wide.

I do not have links...but I have read enough before we went to war there...and after...and did not have a PC...I know it is my opinion and mine only.

Good thing Bush had the visio

Good thing Bush had the vision to take that Aug. 6 PDB "Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States" seriously and not wait for us to be hit to understand the threat of terrori - oh, wait.

Man, if Al Gore had sat wetting his pants and reading "My Pet Goat" for 7 minutes after being informed "America is under attack" like Georgie, you guys would be calling for his head, not regurgitating that pathetic  "he didn't want to scare the students" excuse. Watch the tape. That man is seriously regretting his decision to be president like Daddy.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

BlameTheMedia"Iraq is qu

BlameTheMedia

"Iraq is questioned because it was pre-emptive. not legit. bogus" 

PLease see link to educate yourself,

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Stop trying to apply your war

Stop trying to apply your warped liberal definitions to this.  The crime of treason is defined in  Article III section 3 of the Constitution.  That is the only definition that matters.

Is the Islamic Republic of Iran an enemy state?  YES Is he giving aid and comfort to the Islamic republic of Iran?  YES!   He is as guilty as sin.

these are the tests of Article III section 3. 

BTM

BTM,

First, I didn't suggest he be hanged. If you believe I did, could you please cite specifically where by copying and pasting the text in a reply? Thank you.

Second, I'm not sure it matters whether or not what he presented was secret. Certainly, everything he discussed might have already been published by him.

However, don't you see a difference between a journalist writing about such issues and discussing them in a radio interview with one of our nation's sworn enemies? Isn't it one thing for a journalist to put on paper his antagonistic views concerning the current administration, but entirely different when said individual opts to actively share such opinions with folks currently trying to kill American soldiers in Iraq?   ns

Noel, It was I who suggested

Noel, It was I who suggested he be hung, principally because this is what the British did with Lord Haw Haw, the British propagandist who broadcasted on behalf of the Third Reich during WWII.   What we have here is a similar situation, the only difference being the target audience of this propaganda.

Iran is our enemy because b

Iran is our enemy because bush says so.

Actually Iran is our enemy for many reasons including thier suopport of terrorism and the fact that they are Overtly the enemy of our ally Israel.

you guys are a bunch of war mongers.

No we are intelligent people who see the world for what it is and the enemies of our country for what they are.

Afganistan
is not questioned, why? because it's legit. Iraq is questioned because
it was pre-emptive. not legit. bogus.

Anyone willing to look at the facts knows this is an idiodic statement. How anyone can decidide to place personal prejudices over facts and then accecpt a distorted view as reality ?

Even our police can't arrest
someone because they think they
may commit a crime. We better take these countries out because they may pose a threat some day.

Law enforcement officers and the military are separate entities that operate under different rules. I do hope you can at least understand that. Know for the refresher in common sense Sadam's gov't was a threat and broke hundreds of laws.

So,
we should bomb: N korea, iran, syria, saudi arabia (the terrorists were
from there), palestine, and Hugo Chavez, whereever he may be on his
"the smell of sulfur still" tour.

Who have I forgotten? And, when
does the draft begin? Cause we don't have enough boys and girls to go
fight all these wars AND pick the crops that are rotting on the vine
because there are no illegals to pick them.

It is amazing to me how the left so wants a draft. Is it so they can practice dodging it like Clinton ?

Or Bush Cheney Wolfowitz Rove

Or Bush Cheney Wolfowitz Rove Perle Frist DeLay...

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

As others have stated before,

As others have stated before, he told Iran nothing they have not speculated on before. I just can't see the mullahs slapping their heads and saying "oh my" over his revelations. That being said, this scum should be held in contempt by this government and not permitted access to anything critical whatever. In answer as to why Iran may be seeking nuclear energy while sitting atop all that oil it's obvious - To stop global warming! Maybe we should send Al the Goracle over there to head them in the right direction.

War Monger #9

Sounds good to me old cro...S

Sounds good to me old cro...

Sending Algore anywhere out of here to exhale his blowhard spewing...the old gas-bag! .

Btw...I do not know if I have ever recalled a more heated argument than this Sy Hersh treasonous crap has ever filled a thread so fast for this late at night..or better yet I guess early morning now...this made me furious from the begining...as I see it has all...and one little leftist cretin like BtM can inflame it to the max.

Thanks Noel Sheppard.

Job well done! 

It IS good to talk/type at re

It IS good to talk/type at real live people for a change.I read so much of yours and others posts the next day because of my sleeping and blogging habits. I love to get up early (I only sleep about 4 hours at night, an hour nap in the day) and read the comments and posts here at NB to start my day, and very rarely interact with anyone. I admire yours and others posts here and take pride that 99.9% of the time I agree with them.

War Monger #9

Mornin' to ya old cro...I am

Mornin' to ya old cro...

I am about to close...it is three-thirty in the morning here an I have to get up in a couple hours....ha ha ha...

I hate it when this happens...all the time I have been here on NB's...this is the only the second time I have been up all night!

This thread did it!

I blame Noel! I also thank Noel!

We need to wake up and realize when President Bush called Iran one of the accesses of evil...they are! The biggest at the moment...we need to take care of it...along with Israels help and Blairs...before he leaves.

The leftist media really wants to ignore this all until they can get some kind of a semblance of a talking point in that they can all agree too and think they sound good and logical about...

Too funny!

The idiots!

BT -- I wondered why you we

BT -- I wondered why you were up so late/early.

The answer is socialism. But only if the question is:

"What's the fastest way to impoverish, enslave and destroy people?"

Shhh Jack!Dang ya' caught me

Shhh Jack!

Dang ya' caught me again!

I'm outta here real fast...so I say for now!

LOL!

I have to stop reading things

I have to stop reading things to quickly. I thought for a moment you were blaming socialism for BT's staying up all night. But......... in a way that is correct because the root of all our problems is the lefts relentless drive to this form of government that guides them in what they do.
Goodnight BT.

War Monger #9

Top of the mornin' to you old

Top of the mornin' to you old cro!

Yep...fighting socialism is a 24/7 job!

I definitely give it all!

old cro -- I guess you shar

old cro -- I guess you share my distain for the anti-human attitudes of all leftists.

It is odd. While leftoids and/or lib***ls believe big governement should be control the lives and actions of the individual -- they will swallow the absurd notion that individuals can affect the planet's 5,000,000,000 year old climate.

As opposed to the nuclear furnace in the sky which has burned fuel at 5 million tons a second for the past 5 billion years, and will continue for the next 5 billion years.

The answer is socialism. But only if the question is:

"What's the fastest way to impoverish, enslave and destroy people?"

Yes, I do agree. It's a funny

Yes, I do agree. It's a funny thing about GW, I recently had interaction with a lady who I swear was going to cry when GW was mentioned. She seemed incredulous that I was not concerned over it. I actually felt bad for her and tried to reasure her and told her if you take anything away from this conversation, take my advise and don't worry at all about GW. It's monetary driven drivel and BTW, what do you think we could actually do to reverse its course?

"Global warming -- at least the modern nightmare vision -- is a myth. I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy makers are not."

DAVID BELLAMY, Daily Mail, July 9, 2004

bigtimer,Do these people real

bigtimer,

Do these people really think they would be safe if Iran decided to strike the US? Talking openly with the enemy...nice job.

They are the enemy within msh

They are the enemy within msh..it matters not to them.

Defeat at all cost for their reign of leftist power...matters not whose blood is spilled...including their own in the end.

The bloody treasonous fools!

One nit to pick and one comme

One nit to pick and one comment.

With regard to an above post, it was Ramsey Clark, not Seymour Hersh, who was AG under Jimmy Carter.  Mr. Clark then rounded out his resume by formally defending Saddam Hussein at his trial.

http://www.nndb.com/gov/237/000043108/

Mr. Hersh is not stupid.  He needs to sit down quietly someplace and compare the governments of the United States and Iran, on paper and in practice.  He then needs to compare how and why each country uses violence.  (One small example would be - sorry to be sexist for a moment - what happens to an Iranian woman who does not cover her face in public or does not comply with other arbitrary Islamic requirements.)

If he did this, he would quickly determine that he is sympathizing with the wrong country and the wrong ideology.  Instead, he allowed his frustration with American foreign policy to take him into the wrong camp and down a path that has seriously damaged his reputation and integrity.

Actually, to be contraversial

Actually, to be contraversial, Hersh is a useful idiot and I'm glad he said what he said on the Iranian airwaves.  When dealing with any enemy, your credibility of threat determines the parameters of enemy action.  If Iran believes the US will strike and Hersh gave them the added confirmation of such action, then in all likelihood Iran will back down and give back the 15 Brits.  Why?  Because in Iran's eyes to date it believes the US will do nothing because of world opinion (including the Dems) unless the US has sufficient pretext to strike. 

When the US rolled over Iraq, this put the Iranians in a state of shock as they realized given the proper pretext, the US could just as easily roll over them.  This is part of the reason why Iran is funding terrorists in Iraq.  If the US is mired down in Iraq, it can't attack Iran.  However, they realize now after taking the 15 Brits, that they unwittingly gave the Brits and the US the PRETEXT to act.  Why?  The Russians and Chinese have both told the Iranians to comply with the UN Security Council demands, hence Iran now ceases to have anyone to play the foil.  Additionally, if we invade Iran or destabilize their government there will be no outside source of funding to carry on any type of terrorism as in Iraq.  Iran and Syria are the last big funders of terrorism.  Assad of Syria wants to stay in power, he is a pragmatic person, this is why he continually takes the back seat to the Iranians, let them lead so when the head gets chopped off it will be theirs not his.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

Don’t hold your breath wa

Don’t hold your breath waiting for Gonzalez to take action. This wacko, commie lib should be held accountable, or at least taken to the point of pissing in his pants in fear of being prosecuted for treason, but that would be too much for Gonzalez to handle.

Wait, why is this a surprise?

Wait, why is this a surprise? I mean given he's predicted this at the begining of 2005 and 2006 that we'd attack Iran. So I guess he was a little busy this year so he couldn't get to his "annonymous sources" until a bit later. That reminds me, how did the last 2 predictions he made turn out?

Hersch on "Democratic"

Seymour Hersch says to the interviewer, .."you could argue that Iran is probably the most democratic country"

Well, Hersch and the interviewer might want to argue over that point, however without a flinch, Israel is the most democratic country in the region. And then Lebanon. And then Turkey (OK, Turkey is not officially in the Middle East). Certainly these are where the most freedoms exist - but then again, since when did Hersch really care about freedom and human rights.

what a scurvy being!

what a scurvy being! Someone already posted it, but he would be among the first to lose his head over his new friends.

Where’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?

Sir Walter Scott

If this man has any inside in

If this man has any inside info on any military operations or troop movements and is passing it on to our enemies then he is a spy and a traitor and I believe he should be shot on sight, no questions asked, no explanations given.