When it comes to slurring innocent Duke lacrosse players, New York Times sports columnist Selena Roberts is apparently angling to become the Amanda Marcotte of the New York Times. Even after the three lacrosse players have been all but formally cleared of the sexual assault of a stripper (in a case brought forward by a zealous local prosecutor Mike Nifong, to go on trial himself for ethics violations in his handling of the case), Roberts apparently thinks it was worth it in her Sunday column, "Closing a Case Will Not Mean Closure at Duke."
Here's what she said before on the Duke "rape" case in March last year (as the "victim's" case was trumpeted in the credulous media) in a column that seethes with the presumption of guilt.
"The season is over, but the paradox lives on in Duke's lacrosse team, a group of privileged players of fine pedigree entangled in a night that threatens to belie their social standing as human beings.
"Something happened March 13, when a woman, hired to dance at a private party, alleged that three lacrosse players sexually assaulted her in a bathroom for 30 minutes. According to reported court documents, she was raped, robbed, strangled and was the victim of a hate crime. She was also reportedly treated at a hospital for vaginal and anal injuries consistent with sexual assault and rape.
"Players have been forced to give up their DNA, but to the dismay of investigators, none have come forward to reveal an eyewitness account.
"Maybe the team captains are right. Maybe the allegations are baseless.
"But why is it so hard to gather the facts? Why is any whisper of a detail akin to snitching?"
The conclusion to Roberts' March 2006 column carried the same flavor of Duke guilt that emanated from the body of the piece:
"Does President Brodhead dare to confront the culture behind the lacrosse team's code of silence or would he fear being ridiculed as a snitch?"
As the "case" winds down to its ignominious end, Roberts returned to the subject on Sunday (Times Select $ required), whining about some of the "loquacious bullies" who emailed her in support of the lacrosse players and against her biased columns -- "several hostile lacrosse advocates have burned a hole in my in-box as well over the past year."
But Roberts had nothing to say on Sunday about local North Carolina district attorney Michael Nifong's unethical behavior in pushing rape charges against the Duke lacrosse players (the most she could muster was to call him "one part district attorney, one part clueless Columbo"), or the assumptions of guilt by liberal Duke faculty, or the false charges from the alleged rape victim.
Roberts started off with snottiness:
"The ubiquitous 'Innocent' wristbands of the yellow 'LiveStrong' variety have become a wardrobe accessory akin to a watch for some Duke lacrosse supporters."
Later on, Roberts tried to conflate the false rape charges with what she considers athletic misbehavior on campus (as if non-athlete students have never done similar things).
"What happens if all the charges are dismissed? There is a tendency to conflate the alleged crime at the Duke lacrosse team kegger on March 13, 2006, with the irrefutable culture of misogyny, racial animus and athlete entitlement that went unrestrained that night.
"Porn-style photos of two exotic dancers -- one of whom was the accuser -- emerged from cellphone camera downloads. Heated exchanges between players and dancers occurred. Racial slurs were heard. And in an 'American Psycho' reference, a repulsive e-mail message depicting the skinning of strippers was sent by a player, Ryan McFadyen, who, to his credit, has since apologized."
Note the double standard: While the woman who made false charges of rape has yet to be named in the media, but Roberts still feels free to criticize lacrosse players by name in print.
"To many, the alleged crime and culture are intertwined. No trial, all vindication. This microview has some passionate, respectful followers, but also a few loquacious bullies.
"Some of them have expressed their anger with threatening e-mail messages to Duke staff members who had voiced opinions on the scandal."
Is Roberts really ignorant of the infamous "Duke 88," the politically correct faculty who signed an open letter described by case expert-blogger KC Johnson as "a document saying 'thank you' to campus demonstrators who had distributed a 'wanted' poster of the lacrosse players and publicly branded the players 'rapists.'"
Roberts, perhaps aware that her legal hand was weak, next slapped down the race card.
"Don’t mess with Duke, though. To shine a light on its integrity has been treated by the irrational mighty as a threat to white privilege.
"Feel free to excoriate the African-American basketball stars and football behemoths for the misdeeds of all athletes, but lay off the lacrosse pipeline to Wall Street, excuse the khaki-pants crowd of SAT wonder kids.
"No one would want an innocent Duke player wronged or ruined by false charges -- and that may have occurred on Nifong’s watch -- but the alleged crime and the culture are mutually exclusive."
Roberts excused Nifong from responsibility, as if he was just a passive force, although he faces trial himself on ethics charges related to his conduct of the investigation, and dismissed in half a sentence the miscarriage of justice suffered by the innocent Duke players "that may have occurred."
Roberts seems to think the false rape charges were worth it in the end, if it opens up Duke to "change," and seems to think that partying and misbehavior on campus (not to mention "public urination") is the exclusive realm of spoiled white athletes.
"What’s new? Nothing really. But the opportunity to change this chronic campus dynamic is up to Duke. For now, administrators and faculty members seem earnest in giving it a college try.
"That would be a welcomed development to citizens who had long complained about the raucous partying and misbehavior of athletes in their neighborhoods. There were red flags about the Duke lacrosse team, including a history of off-campus conduct problems.
"Apparently, no player could hold his own beer because public urination was an issue."
[…]
"But if you take on the athlete culture that was exposed, not the alleged crime, there can be one healthy legacy to a scandal.
"A dismissal doesn’t mean forget everything. Amnesia would be a poor defense to the next act of athlete privilege."
For more New York Times bias, visit Times Watch.
—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.




















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I was with a Sheriff's office
March 26, 2007 - 12:14 ET by BruzillaI was with a Sheriff's office back in 1992, and we were doing some follow-up on a rape case where the rapist had been arrested and jailed for three months. During the follow-up session with the "victim", we started picking up distortions to her story, then she made the incredulous statement of "if you don't believe me, ask Dick and Jane (not the real names). They were there! They saw the whole thing!" When we asked her how her friends could have watched her being raped and did nothing, she recanted her new story and said they hadn't been there.
We went out and questioned Dick and Jane anyway, and sure enough they had witnessed the rape, but it turned out the "rapist" had been drunk and nearly passed out on the bed, and the "victim" had taken off his clothes and had sex with him. We went back to the "victim" with this information, and she confessed that she had lied, that she had had sex with the drunk "rapist" and was afraid she might get pregenant, so she made the whole story up. We went to file charges of filing a false report, and the States Attorney told us not to waste our time. He said that the womans' groups would rip him to pieces if he allowed us to file those charges, claiming that if a woman claims rape she must be able to prove it or risk being charged with a crime. Even though this girl had admitted to the crime, we still couldn't file.
So, in the end, the "rapist" was in jail for almost 50 days, and is in the system as a sexual offender even though he didn't do anything. And the "victim" who was the only one guilty of a crime gets off scott free. Reporters like this will always only see what they want to see, and it makes no difference how innocent the "rapists" are.
Let us not forget that our &q
March 26, 2007 - 12:41 ET by Airforce_5_OLet us not forget that our "victim" here had the DNA of five, count them five, other men, to include her boyfriend's DNA in her. But not one sample from our three accused.
Dear Ms. Marcotte...I live in
March 26, 2007 - 17:50 ET by Clear thinkerDear Ms. Marcotte...
I live in North Carolina and would like to pass on a message from my fellow N. Carolinians... GO TO HELL!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Airforce 5_0According to Wi
March 26, 2007 - 18:28 ET by ScottyDogAirforce 5_0
According to William Anderson who has been on Mike Nifong's trail from the beginning, the DNA evidence from Crystal Gail Mangum showed that she had sex with 7 other men.
Here is a brief excerpt from his excellent column on the Duke Lacrosse case:
“Nifong then requested the samples be examined at a private lab run by Dr. Brian Meehan that did the hyper-sensitive YSTD tests. That decision ultimately would turn Nifong’s case against him and perhaps destroy his career.”
“Nifong and two other Durham police officers met with Meehan at his Burlington, North Carolina, office on April 10, and Meehan had bad news. Not only were there no DNA matches that would demonstrate any sexual or physical contact between any lacrosse player and Crystal, but despite her claims she had not engaged in sexual activity for a week, there was evidence of her having recent sex with at least seven men, none of them lacrosse players.”
But who is counting, certainly not the NYT or Selena Roberts.
Is this Mexico or the USA
7!!!!Hope it wasn't anybody I
March 27, 2007 - 08:15 ET by Airforce_5_O7!!!!
Hope it wasn't anybody I know.
7!!!!Hope it wasn't anybody I
March 27, 2007 - 08:15 ET by Airforce_5_O7!!!!
Hope it wasn't anybody I know.
That's too bad Bruzilla
March 27, 2007 - 08:26 ET by SportPoliticsThat's too bad Bruzilla. I guess people just don't stand up to imtimidation and smears. So the DA avoids getting "ripped apart by women's groups"...and fails to uphold justice. Sounds like the average run of the mill story anymore. Certainly Nifong did what he did, so he "wouldn't get ripped apart". It's all so very amazing. Are all higher up crimes now politcal circuses, or the "vast majority" of them ? That's not justice,it smells like communism or fascism.
ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!Sounds like
March 26, 2007 - 12:35 ET by Airforce_5_OENOUGH ALREADY!!!!
Sounds like to me she is just pissed that the case is falling apart and she wants someone to pay. The matter is not the racial slurs or the Photos. It was a Rape. Her Civil Rights are whole other matter.
1. These girls are strippers. They spend their time getting men all worked while these guy swill alcohol. Most strippers know that the more alcohol they have in the men, the more money they make. They go hand in hand.
2. NO DNA CAME BACK TO ANY PLAYER.
3. Nifong is an idiot who was using this situation to get himself REELECTED. He succeeded. I got news for ya honey... He is a Democrat.
4. Most important: When the DA began to try these kids in the Court Of Public Opinion, he faced watching his case fall apart in the same Court.
The right for the Press to ex
March 26, 2007 - 12:42 ET by Gat New YorkThe right for the Press to express free speech only goes as far as not defaming and slandering individuals and thereby denying them their rights.
The parents of these three completely innocent young men will be getting legal remediation wherever their children were slandered and defamed. That probably will include worthless psychopaths like Roberts. I hope she has a good attorney (actually I hope she does not).
There are other NY Times writers who participated in this systematic defamation as there were in some other media.
There should be no place in mainstream media for people like Roberts who openly abuse their privilege as reporters.
What's Amanda Marcotte's problem?
March 26, 2007 - 12:49 ET by blackrain4xmasShe has an issue with sports players?
She has an issue with whites?
She has an issue with students at expensive universities (damn them for doing well on SAT's!)
Seriously, she goes to great lengths to excuse their being falsely accused of a crime, and convicts them based on their culture. Isn't that racism by effect?
Gotta wonder why this New Yorker's so intent on backing the whore (yes, semen from 5 or more men at once inside one's privates while alleging rape by 3 more does make one a whore).
RainWhat gets me is Duke is o
March 26, 2007 - 12:55 ET by Airforce_5_ORain
What gets me is Duke is one of the most liberal colleges in the US and most of its students are from the North East. Ironic?
The irony is how liberal the
March 26, 2007 - 13:06 ET by Gat New YorkThe irony is how liberal the administration and many of the faculty are. However the main body of students are not. Their largest graduating class every year is in economics. The students are also primarily pre-med and pre-law as well as engineering. The parents who send them there (other than Al Franken) are primarily rather conservative and not impressed with radical ideologues.
For this reason, Duke has a very serious long term problem in trying to maintain its elite status.
Brodhead needs to be terminated for his initial and continued handling of this travesty. And the Gang of 88 should have been fired by now for violating university policy regarding the conduct of teachers.
This woman is just mad cause
March 26, 2007 - 13:06 ET by bassndudeThis woman is just mad cause the Duke boys dident want to see her dance for them. A woman scorned, you know?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
UCLA Basketball Season Canceled?
March 26, 2007 - 13:01 ET by Ten7s"Feel free to excoriate the African-American basketball stars and football behemoths ..., but lay off the lacrosse pipeline to Wall Street, excuse the khaki-pants crowd of SAT wonder kids."
Its just the opposite. They cancelled this team's season on a clearly false ALLEGATION. When is the last time you heard of a university cancel football or basketball season because of an ALLEGED crime committed by a player? And there is no shortage of allegations every year against players. She's just another Liberal Bigot trying to pillory the people she doesn't like because of her personal feelings of inadequacy.
if anything ... mass apologie
March 26, 2007 - 13:01 ET by pmohbuckif anything ... mass apologies should be streaming from the media and most of all, the disgusting faculty at duke ... where hypocrisy and self-adulation seem to be the only professional criteria need for employment.
typical NYT paintbrush used in blaming the "athletic culture" ... no blame has ever been attributed to the accuser for lying ... which caused:
* the permanent defamation to the characters of 3 innocent men
* the coach to lose his job
* untold sums of money spent on attorneys by the players' families, the school and taxpayers
* the almost-destruction of the highly regarded duke lacrosse program and the effect it had on all of its players, coaches, staff and future prospects
* the image of a prestigeous school to be tarnished
* the issue of race and sexism to be forced down our throats
for what? nothing
and to the liar/accuser ... is she held accountable ... for anything? not yet ... doubtful that her name is ever published, even though at this juncture, she is the only criminal involved.
i just hope, once these charges are formally dropped, that the families of the accused use their wealth for payback from the accuser, nifong and those 88 faculty members ... these people need to be held accountable for the misery unecessarily endured by all those affected by this charade.
"At some point, the 'public' has to contribute more to society than just exercising its rights" - [PMOH]Buck
pmoh...Amen to that!I agree w
March 26, 2007 - 23:37 ET by bigtimerpmoh...
Amen to that!
I agree with you with a vengeance in every respect of your post!
What a bitter pathetic person
March 26, 2007 - 13:18 ET by Al CzervikWhat a bitter pathetic person. My guess is that this poor plump young lady took her shot at a "privileged athlete" in college and was summarily used and discarded or simply rejected outright.
Lay down the torch and get over your college heartbreak.
Al, you hit it right on the L
March 26, 2007 - 13:47 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarAl, you hit it right on the Liberal. She definately got turned downed or slam-bammed in her past by an athlete and now they will all pay!
All that is left is for someone to ask her, "What, when you buy a dress like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh?"
"I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened." Mark Twain
Good Call Al
March 26, 2007 - 18:24 ET by acumenGood call Al. Definitely an Al Sharpton Institute for Deranged Women Advocacy graduate.
I've noticed this denial from similar lib***lly driven reporterettes (even on -gasp- FOX News) that convicted these Duke players the day the story broke and just can't seem to admit they were wrrrrrrr......wrrroooo......wronnnn....wrong. This is just another deflection of the facts to keep from having to admit they let their emotions drive the story (Lib***l Journalists Womens Rights Handbook, Chapter 1 - 'It's All About Me, Tactic 666).
I'm just thankful Mike Nifong wasn't a black lesbian muslim woman. These Duke kids wouldn't have stood a chance.
"idiot liberals" - congressman obey(me)
You don't have to condone n
March 26, 2007 - 13:30 ET by Jack BauerYou don't have to condone boorish behavior by idiotic males, with more money than sense, to be appalled at the power of the state being used to crush the individual on made-up charges.
There's a big leap to finding it a revolting for tanked up dopes pissing in the streets to wishing them prosecuted for RAPE.
So it seems a tad harsh to send annoying young men to gaol, for the rest of their lives, just to punish them for having well-off parents, and an irresponsible attitude.
What, so they themselves can be the subject of rape -- and worse. Rapist are not well treated by the other inmates, being that they are considered one notch above pedophiles.
And I thought lib***ls thought it better that 99 guilty go free, rather than one innocent person be wrongly convicted?
"No one minipsimates me
March 26, 2007 - 15:29 ET by Fred911"No one minipsimates me or my family.........."
What the Duke Case really i
March 26, 2007 - 18:01 ET by ScottyDogWhat the Duke Case really illustrates is how our Judicial System has been corrupted beyond recognition by prosecutors that no longer answer to the Constitution they took an oath to protect and serve.
The Judicial System has been so corrupted that you are considered Guilty until you prove yourself innocent. If you have the money you may be able to prove you are innocent otherwise you are forced to make a plea bargain to avoid a long prison sentence. Prosecutors routinely hold press conferences to poison the Jury Pool and enhance their own careers rather than seek justice for the people that they serve.
Prosecutors make immunity deals with criminals to testify against defendants(suborning perjury) by eliminating or shortening their sentences or just pay them outright with money to get the testimony they need to convict defendants in a court of law. Read Crystal Mangum's partner in crime and best friend, received a deal from Mike NiFong to change her story.
Does the overzealous Johnny Sutton prosecution of Ramos and Compean come to mind? I urge HotAir readers to read Sue Bobs Diary and her piece on the Career Prosecutor regarding the above case. You will be shocked.
If you think I am over stating the state of our Judicial system, especially the prosecutorial misconduct that occurs on a daily basis, I urge you to read a series of articles published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette called Win at all Costs.
For those that are interested in the details of Mike Nifong and his prosecutorial abuses now numbering over 100 formal ethics charges, read William Andersons Michael B. Nifong and the Sociopathic State.
Mike Nifong should be disbarred and prosecuted for his handling of the Duke La Cross case and when the state gets done with him, I hope the family’s sue him so that he never has a penny left for his retirement.
Crystal Mangum, the lying whore that started this whole mess should be facing some serious jail time along with libelous Sports writers, like Selena Roberts, that could care less about the rule of law.
Is this Mexico or the USA
ScottyDog...thanks for the l
March 26, 2007 - 21:03 ET by Cape ConservativeScottyDog...thanks for the links...and I say, AMEN to all of your comments! There must be an end to the injustices meted out in the name of the law. It is incomprehensible that such conniving goes on - indeed, how can this be called "justice" when one is presumed guilty rather than innocent. No more deals with criminals!!! "First we hang all the lawyers" doesn't sound quite so bad after all!
You're on the mark, Scotty -
March 26, 2007 - 22:26 ET by BillAdkinsYou're on the mark, Scotty - the Constitution is being shredded by the politicians. We're fast approaching that time when the cop can stop us and ask for our papers. Word of caution, however - anything by Jerome Corsi is suspect. The man is not to be believed, even if he's advocating our side.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
Hi SD...Haven't agreed more w
March 26, 2007 - 22:47 ET by bigtimerHi SD...
Haven't agreed more with a post than yours in a very long time.
You said it all.
I have been there and done that...thank goodness it wasn't a high profile famous case televised...or forget it, we would of been fried.
Without money to fight the federal prosecutors you are in big trouble...you are guilty until proven innocent.
It took years, but our reputation, word, honesty and the truth was what I was determined to fight...and I did.
For those who have agenda's...a high profile case and a political agenda you may as well forget it...unless you have money, determination and patience...let alone the truth being on your side.
Our judicial system is in the sewer, let alone the media jumping on, making their such knowledgeable predictions telling us all what really happened before a trial 24/7...it is pathetic and despicable...I feel they should also be held accountable.
All people had better wake up and smell the coffee...it can happen to you.
Sutton, Nifong and others should have to do time...have their lovely day in court, but end up doing time....there should never ever be a prosecution against a person that can destroy you, your way of life, business and all else without the people bringing the charges without any kind of real merit without positive proof instead of heresay...have their day and judgment in court brought against them..restitution should also be applied...although where do you go to get your good name back as the saying goes.
Our Forefathers would be rolling in their graves....take it back... most likely have been for a very long time.
The truth is Nifong's actions
March 26, 2007 - 22:19 ET by BillAdkinsThe truth is Nifong's actions in this case are the norm and not the exception. He's a prosecutor, for crissakes. The statutes and the case law that have come down over the last two or three decades have been designed to make it easier for the prosecutor, to stack the deck for the prosecution and against the defendant. Nifong had every reason to believe he could use this case for his political ends. If it had not been so high profile he would have very likely sent several innocent people to prison for a very long time.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
BillA
March 26, 2007 - 22:37 ET by gfrrmanDoes that include withholding exculpitory evidence from the defense? That's the "norm"?
Not only that, but fabricatin
March 26, 2007 - 22:41 ET by BillAdkinsNot only that, but fabricating evidence, i.e., red paint for blood on murder weapons and dry wall dust as cocaine evidence. Is it the 'norm?' I'd hate to think so - but once is bad enough. Regardless of what you may think, attorneys operate upon their integrity, particularly among their colleagues - get a reputation for deceit and lying and you're finished. The real problem here is that the deck is stacked by courts and legislatures. The presumption of innocence has become the assumption of guilt.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
Bill Maher...aka AdkinsYour c
March 27, 2007 - 01:19 ET by Clear thinkerBill Maher...aka Adkins
Your comment "get a reputation for deceit and lying and you're finished" is suspect. If this were true Johnny Cochran should have died poor and destitute, but he didn't. He left behind millions to his heirs.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
He must have been thinking of John Edwards
March 27, 2007 - 09:07 ET by SportPoliticsHe must have been thinking of John Edwards. Adkins is a joke, and here's something funny. More than half the republicans are lawyers, and can still practice.
One lawyer, slick willie, lost his license to practice because he was known as a liar among his legal peers.
ROFLMAO.
Bill Adkins is a know nothing fool. It's amazing to me how a liberal can get it wrong, every single time.
It almost makes me wonder if it isn't some Hellbound Biblical Curse for the unrepentant lib babbler, sort of the only way possible the proper path can be pointed out to the sinning pinheads. One wonders how it takes them a lifetime and then some to notice their problem. Mental illness... likely.
The real truth
March 26, 2007 - 22:45 ET by acumenHere's the real truth:
Nifong is a Democrat(ic) prosecutor, for crissakes. That's why Nifong had every reason to believe he could use this case for his political ends. Democrat(ic) SOP.
And the only reason this was a "high profile" case was because Democrat(ic) prosecutor Nifong was in love with the camera as much as a mirror.....until the DNA evidence (or lack of) leaked out that is.
I live one county over from Nifong's jurisdiction. After the first week, the only stories relating to the case was when Nifong stumbled in front of a camera - yet again. The idiot Democrat(ic) prosecutor Nifong kept the story on the front page.
BTW gfrrman - I promise I this is the last time I will use one of your comments to make a point to another. :)
"idiot liberals" - congressman obey(me)
No, no, no - you don't get aw
March 26, 2007 - 22:52 ET by BillAdkinsNo, no, no - you don't get away with that one. It's not party, it's 'prosecutor.' That's the animal. They can come from either party, i.e., just look at Alberto Gonzales today. His people are taking the 5th and the RNC and the White House have been ordered to store their emails and not tamper with them. See? it's not party - it's prosecutor. Now, get with the program.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
acumen
March 26, 2007 - 22:54 ET by gfrrmanFeel free to jump in and show BillA the truth anytime. You just beat me to it. 'Course, since you were right next door to what was going on you probably saw more than I did....although I read as much as I could about the whole ordeal. If this would have been a Repub. prosecutor, the media would have been on his a** from the git go. Nifong is gonna pay really hard for this IMO!!
Oh, gfr - so your saying Nifo
March 26, 2007 - 22:58 ET by BillAdkinsOh, gfr - so your saying Nifong isn't getting his ass handed to him now and almost since day one? He got 'touchy feely' treatment from the press and everyone else? You must live in a cave. You stop in anytime I'm around and I'll guide you to the truth free of charge. The truth is, prosecutors get a pass almost every day - judges fear the political heat they'll take if they don't jump as high as the prosecutor says.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
Billy, you speak with a forked tongue
March 26, 2007 - 23:03 ET by RJBilly, you speak with a forked tongue. First, Nifong is getting his ass handed to him daily. But two sentences later prosecutors get a pass almost every day and judges jump for them. tsk.
I used to think we had reached the bottom of the barrel of liberal stupidity until Bill Adkins came along.
You're not paying attention,
March 26, 2007 - 23:07 ET by BillAdkinsYou're not paying attention, rj - I don't know if you're being obtuse or simply thick. Nifong is caught - prosecutors busted is not the norm. Typically, they get a pass almost every day. Try to read the thread and brush up on your reading comprehension.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
You have the attention span of a flea, Billy
March 26, 2007 - 23:19 ET by RJYou have the attention span of a flea, Billy. You can't even hold a train of thought in the same post.
Grrfman said Nifong had been given a pass until recently. You disagreed, arguing that Nifong was getting hammered every day, even asking if grrfman lived in a cave. Two sentences later you say that prosecutors in general get a pass and that judges jump for them. You're really pathetic.
I used to think we had reached the bottom of the barrel in stupid liberal posters until Bill Adkins came along.
RJ
March 26, 2007 - 23:27 ET by gfrrmanI understood it and you understood it the same way. BillA is just talking out of both sides of his mouth and can't see it. And WE don't comprehend?? LMAO!!!!
gfrrman
March 26, 2007 - 23:33 ET by RJoops. didn't see this. they ARE funny. see my post below, essentially saying the same thing
Yes RJ, but it is good you pointed it out. to BillAdkins
March 27, 2007 - 08:59 ET by SportPoliticsYes RJ, but it is good you pointed it out. There's a faint hope Bill Adkins oozing mush will have an oxygen molecule breakthrough and shed some enlightenment upon his massive flip flopping.
Why are all liberals like that,so screwed up and they cannot even see it ? How can they possibly type that crap ?
This case is clear proof that the liberals reparations of revenge are going full bore ahead.
I have to be honest, it was an entertaining and angering circus to watch the idiots on the tube defend Nifong and condemn the Duke players for months and months on end, when a 6th grade retard could see the players were innocent.
I don't understand it frankly. I'm not sure what those people have substituted for sanity. It must be along the lines of the DA Bruzilla talked about. I guess it's some me-me-me face saving fantasy. If people stood up and told the truth, maybe they wouldn't have to worry about it, but then again it seems very few are willing to do that anymore. When they do it's not 15minutes of fame, it's a few minutes of "Oh, that's right", then everyone moves on.
How can any of them that don't think they come out the other side in higher esteem by anyone ? Is this the Clinton lesson ? Do they all think they are slick willies ?
BillA
March 26, 2007 - 23:08 ET by gfrrmanSince RJ beat me to the punch, I'l just again say, you are clueless. Make up your mind.
gfrr
March 26, 2007 - 23:16 ET by BillAdkinsMake up my mind? Ok -I've made up my mind that you may have at most three brain cells. Not necessarily working braincells, but hell, enough to breathe in and breathe out apparently.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
BillA
March 26, 2007 - 23:22 ET by gfrrmanIt's quite obvious that you have a reading comprehension and writing skill problem. If you can't read what YOU wrote I and no one can help you. That's YOUR problem. Now breathe in, breathe out.....ad nauseum.......
If fleabrain comes back, say hi for me
March 26, 2007 - 23:30 ET by RJDoncha love it, gfrrman, when the libbys exhibit reading comprehension problems and then blame it on everyone else? They all do it....
Well, I'm outta here, folks. If fleabrain comes back say hi for me.
RJ
March 26, 2007 - 23:38 ET by gfrrmanThey at least have a choice whether to remain stupid......have a good night.
You have a choice to remain s
March 27, 2007 - 09:35 ET by BillAdkinsYou have a choice to remain stupid, grrf - and the choice you've made is obviously to remain so.
I used to think Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history - then along came George W. Bush.
Billy fleabrain speaks up
March 27, 2007 - 09:54 ET by RJFleabrain got caught in a blatantly stupid post and his only defense is to try to cover by attacking those who pointed it out....hahahha!
I used to think we had seen the bottom of the barrel for stupid libeal posters until Bill Adkins came along
BA...Half... if not more judg
March 26, 2007 - 23:18 ET by bigtimerBA...
Half... if not more judges are just as much involved in a lot of the cases themselves...aiding along with the prosecutors.
Agenda is the bottom line.
Yep it is the norm. I urg
March 26, 2007 - 22:49 ET by ScottyDogYep it is the norm. I urge you to read a
series of articles published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
called Win at all Costs. I was shocked that this kind of thing is going on
in our judicial system.
We have given the Prosecutors too much power
and they are abusing the power on a routine basis.
Is this Mexico
or the USA
Not to start a war, but
March 26, 2007 - 22:54 ET by RJNot to start a war, but this is the reason I can't support capital punishment.