As the Business & Media Institute reported last year, press reports of climate change have been going on since the 1800s.
Over the weekend, I was sent a list of New York Times articles dating back to 1855 addressing the global warming and cooling that has been happening on this planet for the past 150 years. I have taken the liberty of adding a few pieces that I discovered in the Times’ archives to further illustrate the point.
As you review the following, try to keep in mind just how sure global warming alarmists like soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore are that the current trend in climate change is a “a true planetary emergency” that must be dealt with soon to avoid an imminent cataclysm:
CLIMATOLOGY
January 5, 1855, Wednesday
Page 4, 863 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - As the climate of every country has an inseparable relation with the physical character of its inhabitants, the attention of the Government was directed, some few years since, to the collection of correct meteorological statistics throughout the whole of the United States.
THIS CLIMATE OF OURS; WHY THESE OPEN WINTERS AND TEMPERATE SUMMERS? THE GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE OF THE ALTERNATE PREVALENCE OF A SEMITROPICAL ATMOSPHERE.
Climate Perculiarities of New-York.
January 2, 1870, Wednesday
Page 4, 500 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - The climate of New-York and the contigu ons Atlantic seaboard has long been a study of great interest. We have just experienced a remarkable instance of its peculiarity The Hudson River, by a singular freak of temperature, has thrown off its icy mantle and opened its waters to navigation.
IS CLIMATE CHANGING?--March 25, 1888, Wednesday
Page 13, 440 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - Formerly wine was made in England, the change of climate might be the principal reason that this manufacture does not now flourish. There are, however, many reasons why British wine ...
IS OUR CLIMATE CHANGING?February 3, 1889, Wednesday
Page 4, 778 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - An article in the Forum for February is upon the subject of the much-talked-of change in our climate. The writer, Prof. CLEVELAND ABBE, says that the notion that it is possible for a climate to change to a modern one. Our ancestors lived in a region ...
THIS CLIMATE OF OURS; WHY THESE OPEN WINTERS AND TEMPERATE SUMMERS? THE GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE OF THE ALTERNATE PREVALENCE OF A SEMITROPICAL ATMOSPHERE.
June 23, 1890, Wednesday
Page 5, 1905 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - Is our climate changing? The succession of temperate Summers and open Winters through several years, culminating last Winter in the almost total failure of the ice crop throughout the valley of the Hudson, makes the question pertinent. The older inhabitants tell us that the Winters are not as cold now as when they were young, and we have all observed a marked diminution of the average cold even in this last decade.
FACT AND FANCY ABOUT CLIMATE; Prof. Ward in His New Book Discusses Various Popular Notions Regarding the Weather.
May 30, 1908, Saturday
Section: SATURDAY REVIEW OF BOOKS, Page 18, 1432 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - AS popular misconceptions of variations in the weather are frequent and shiding, Prof. Ward has rendered the public a service in producing a book on climate which "can be read by an intelligent person who has not had special or extended training in the technicalities of the science."
Nation Is Held on Verge of Climate Shift; Experts See Old-Fashioned Winters BackDecember 16, 1934, Sunday
By The Associated Press.
Section: SECOND NEWS SECTION, Page N8, 361 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - WASHINGTON, Dec. 15. -- America is believed by Weather Bureau scientists to be on the verge of a change of climate, with a return to increasing rains and deeper snows and the colder Winters of grandfather's day.
Warming Arctic Climate Melting Glaciers Faster, Raising Ocean Level, Scientist SaysMay 30, 1947, Friday
By GLADWIN HILLSpecial to THE NEW YORK TIMES.
Page 23, 366 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - LOS ANGELES, May 29 -- A mysterious warming of the climate is slowly manifesting itself in the Arctic, engendering a "serious international problem," Dr. Hans Ahlmann, noted Swedish geophysicist, said today.
Is Climate Changing?; Habits of Mammals and Birds Suggest World Is Warmer
October 15, 1950, Sunday
Section: The Week In Review, Page E9, 461 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - Is the world warming up? Dr. Joseph J. Hickey, Professor of Wildlife Management at the University of Wisconsin, holds that it is. He has drawn his evidence from the changing habits of some half-dozen species of mammals ...
How Industry May Change ClimateMay 24, 1953, Sunday
W. K.
Section: REVIEW OF THE WEEK EDITORIALS, Page E11, 470 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - The amount of carbon dioxide in the air will double by the year 2080 and raise the temperature an average of at least 4 per cent. The burning of about two billion tons of coal and oil a year keeps the average ground temperature somewhat higher than it would otherwise be.
Greenland's Moderating Climate Turns Hunters Into Fishermen; Economy Once Based on Sea Mammals Now Depends On Cod Sold for CashAugust 29, 1954, Sunday
By KATHLEEN McLAUGHLIN
Page 2, 696 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - UNITED NATIONS, N. Y., Aug. 28 -- Greenland's polar climate has moderated so consistntly that communities of hunters have evolved into fishing villages. Sea mammals, vanishing from the west coast, have been replaced by codfish and other fish species in the area's southern waters.
CLIMATE WARMING IN THE ANTARCTIC; 5-Degree Rise Over the Last Half Century Is Recorded at Little America ICE IS FOUND THICKER Director of U. S. Program Says Sheet Drops 10,000 Feet in Many AreasMay 31, 1958, Saturday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 17, 778 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - An analysis of weather records from Little America shows a steady warming of climate over the last half century. The rise in average temperature at the Antarctic outpost has been about five degrees Fahrenheit.
SCIENCE IN REVIEW; Warmer Climate on the Earth May Be Due To More Carbon Dioxide in the AirOctober 28, 1956, Sunday
By WALDEMAR KAEMPFFERT
Section: The Week In Review, Page 191, 904 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - The general warming of the climate that has occurred in the last sixty years has been variously explained. Among the explanations are fluctuations in the amount of energy received from the sun, changes in the amount of volcanic ...
CLUE TO WEATHER FOUND IN GLACIER;December 25, 1956, Tuesday
North American Newspaper Alliance.
Page 27, 420 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - WASHINGTON, Dec. 24-- Seven years of observation of the Great Grinnell Glacier in Glacier National Park has given rise to some comment on weather trends.
Frozen Key To Our Climate; The world's ice masses may be ushering in a fifth Ice Age. Frozen Key To Our ClimateDecember 7, 1958, Sunday
By LEONARD ENGEL
Section: Magazine, Page SM72, 2601 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - SEVERAL thousand scientists of many nations have recently been climbing mountains, digging tunnels in glaciers, journeying to the Antarctic, camping on floating Arctic ice. Their object has been to solve a fascinating riddle: what is happening to the world's ice?
A WARMER EARTH EVIDENT AT POLES; Arctic Findings in Particular Support Theory of Rising Global TemperaturesFebruary 15, 1959, Sunday
Special to The New York Times.
Page 112, 305 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - WASHINGTON, Feb. 14 -- The theory that the world is growing slightly warmer is receiving added confirmation from temperature data
SCIENTISTS AGREE WORLD IS COLDER; But Climate Experts Meeting Here Fail to Agree on Reasons for Change
January 30, 1961, Monday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Section: BUSINESS FINANCIAL, Page 46, 1326 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - After a week of discussions on the causes of climate change, an assembly of specialists from several continents seems to have reached unanimous agreement on only one point: it is getting colder.
EARTH'S WEATHER GROWING COLDER; U.S. Among the Exceptions, Rome Symposium HearsOctober 8, 1961, Sunday
Special to The New York Times.
Page 66, 386 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - ROME, Oct. 7 -- The earth, with few regional exceptions, is undergoing "a persistent cold wave" that began in the Nineteen Forties, a United States weather man told a symposium on climate this week.
Weathermen Try to Explain the Why of Spring That Never Was in 1967
May 31, 1967, Wednesday
By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Page 29, 975 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - In the year 1816 the year without summer, they called it snow fell in New England and parts of New York in June, July and August. Crops failed. People were impoverished and mystified.
Scientist Hints Earthquake Link To Wobbles in Spinning of Earth; Heirtzler of
November 29, 1968, Friday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 92, 1169 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - The head of Columbia University's Hudson Laboratories, at Dobbs Ferry, N.Y., has suggested that wobbles in the earth's spin may be responsible for such diverse phenomena as earthquakes, periods of mountain -building and climate
Expert Says Arctic Ocean Will Soon Be an Open Sea; Catastrophic Shifts in Climate Feared if Change Occurs Other Specialists See No Thinning of Polar Ice CapFebruary 20, 1969, Thursday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 20, 1691 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - Col. Bernt Balchen, polar explorer and flier, is circulating a paper among polar specialists proposing that the Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two.
U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic; U.S. and Soviet Press Arctic Studies
July 18, 1970, Saturday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 1, 1398 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - The United States and the Soviet Union are mounting large-scale investigations to determine why the Arctic climate is becoming more frigid, why parts of the Arctic sea ice have recently become ominously thicker and whether the extent of that ice cover contributes to the onset of ice ages.
Climate Experts Assay Ice Age Clues
January 27, 1972, Thursday
Special to The New York Times
Section: BUSINESS/FINANCE, Page 74, 731 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - PROVIDENCE, R. I., Jan. 26 -- After invading Nebraska and Colorado, the armadillos, faced with increasingly frigid weather, are in retreat from those states toward their ancestral home south of the Mexican border. The winter snow accumulation on Baffin Island has increased 35 per cent in the last decade.
Record of a Little Ice Age Is Discovered
February 5, 1972, Saturday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 14, 706 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - From a study of ice extracted from deep within the Greenland ice sheet it appears that 89,500 years ago something catastrophic changed the climate from being warmer than today's to that of a full-fledged ice age.
Scientist Fears Equable Climate Around World Could Be Ending
October 31, 1972, Tuesday
By BOYCE RENSBERGER
Page 25, 645 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - The current 12,000-year-old era of comfortable climates around the world may be coming to an end, closing another chapter in what a University of Miami scientist believes has been a history of frequent and relatively short-lived ice ages and warm ages.
FORECAST FOR; FORECASTING: CLOUDY In the long term, climate is cooling off-or is it warming up? As for tomorrow's weather, even the world's biggest computer can't sayfor sure what it will be. Forecasting ' A really accurate three-day weather forecast would result in savings of $86-million a year just for growersof wheat in the state of Wisconsin.'
December 29, 1974, Sunday
By Alan Anderson Jr.
Section: SM, Page 156, 4834 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - A number of climatologists, whose job it is to keep an eye on long-term weather changes, have lately been predicting deterioration of the benignclimate to which we have grown accustomed.
CLIMATE CHANGES CALLED OMINOUS; Scientists Warn Predictions Must Be Made Precise to Avoid CatastropheJanuary 19, 1975, Sunday
By HAROLD M. SCHMECK Jr. Special to The New York Times
Page 31, 1089 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - WASHINGTON, Jan. 18 Changes in the earth's climate are inevitable and mankind must learn to predict these variations to avoid potential catastrophe, a group of prominent scientists has concluded after a two-year study.
Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead; Scientists Ponder Why World's Climate Is Changing; a Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable
May 21, 1975, Wednesday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 45, 2828 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - The world's climate is changing. Of that scientists are firmly convinced. But in what direction and why are subjects of deepening debate.
WARMING TREND SEEN IN CLIMATE; Two Articles Counter View That Cold Period Is Due
August 14, 1975, Thursday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Section: Sports, Page 24, 759 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - Articles in two scientific journals have questioned widely publicized predictions that, in coming decades, the world climate will deteriorate severely affecting food production and, perhaps, initiating a new ice age.
Experts Fear Great Peril If SST Fumes Cool Earth
December 21, 1975, Sunday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 32, 1057 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - A federally sponsored inquiry into the effects of possible climate changes caused by heavy supersonic traffic in the stratosphere has concluded that even a slight cooling could cost the world from $200 billion to 500 times that much in damage done to agriculture, public health and other effects.
2 Climate Experts Decry Predictions of Disasters; Drought in
February 22, 1976, Sunday
By WALTER SULLIVAN Special to The New York Times
Page 48, 823 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - BOSTON, Feb. 21--Two authorities on climate change have termed irresponsible recent predictions of an impending ice age or other climatic disaster. The also said that any global effects of man-made air pollution on the climate to date remained obscure.
International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere
January 5, 1978, Thursday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Section: Sports, Page D17, 817 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - An international team of specialists has concluded from eight indexes of climate that there is no end in sight to the cooling trend of the last 30 years, at least in the Northern Hemisphere.
Climate Specialists, in Poll, Foresee No Catastrophic Weather Changes in Rest of Century; Warning About Carbon Dioxide
February 18, 1978, Saturday
By WALTER SULLIVAN Special to The New York Times
Page 9, 967 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - WASHINGTON, Feb. 17--A poll of climate specialists in seven countries has found a consensus that there will be no catastrophic changes in the climate by the end of the century. But the specialists were almost equally divided on whether there would be a warming, a cooling or no change at all.
Scientists at World Parley Doubt Climate Variations Are Ominous; Forgetting the Past Major Shifts in Past
February 16, 1979, Friday
By WALTER SULLIVAN Special to The New York Times
Section: Business & Finance, Page D13, 688 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - GENEVA, Feb. 15 This winter Chicago was paralyzed by snow. Last winter it was Boston. European Russia has just suffered its coldest December in a century. In Britain and Western Europe, the summer of 1976 was the hottest in 250 years.
A Vast 'Interdisciplinary Effort' To Predict Climate Trend Urged; Neutralization Needed
February 24, 1979, Saturday
By WALTER SULLIVAN Special to The New York Times
Page 44, 913 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - GENEVA, Feb. 23--After exchanging views here for two weeks, the people who know more about climate than anyone else in the world have concluded that climate's future trends can be predicted in a meaningful way only after "an interdisciplinary effort of unprecedented scope."
Scientists Reviving Speculation on Climate and Slipping Antarctic Ice; Theory of Linked Events Evidence in Bones Volcanic Dust Theory In Less Than a Century
March 9, 1980, Sunday
By WALTER SULLIVAN
Page 43, 1161 words
DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH - Scientists are reviving the controversial notion that millions of cubic miles of Antarctic ice can sometimes abruptly slip off the continent into the sea, resulting in extreme increases in global ocean levels and precipitating a dramatic chilling of the world's climate.
AfricaColumbia Also Suggests a Relationship to Climate Changes Great Ice River in Rockies Shows Long-Range Change Indicating Cold Period Thermometer of the Ages Favorable Trend in Climate
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Noel, thanks for this little
March 26, 2007 - 09:50 ET by bassndudeNoel, thanks for this little bit of insight. Now I am confused. I dont know weather to buy a new coat, or invest in a larger air-conditioner. I guess the best course of action is to move to a little deserted island in the south pacific and hope for the best. I just need donations so I can take lots of rum and wine. :-)
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Bass and Noel
March 26, 2007 - 10:05 ET by RJBetter take an ark, Bass. According to soon to be Dr Gore, your island is certain to be under water before long.
Noel, your excellent research on the Times' hot and cold history of writing about the climate made me laugh out loud. I especially enjoyed the late 1800s report of the "failure of the ice crop" in the Hudson Valley:
"Is our climate changing? The succession of temperate Summers and open Winters through several years, culminating last Winter in the almost total failure of the ice crop throughout the valley of the Hudson, makes the question pertinent. The older inhabitants tell us that the Winters are not as cold now as when they were young, and we have all observed a marked diminution of the average cold even in this last decade."
A federally sponsored inqui
March 26, 2007 - 10:06 ET by Dave in TexasA federally sponsored inquiry into the effects of possible climate changes caused by heavy supersonic traffic in the stratosphere has concluded that even a slight cooling could cost the world from $200 billion to 500 times that much in damage done to agriculture, public health and other effects.
Well it's a good thing we're warming up then, because if a slight cooling could cause $100,000,000,000,000 in 1975 dollars, I'd hate to imagine what it would do today.
It's very interesting to hear
March 26, 2007 - 10:27 ET by dscottIt's very interesting to hear people complain in 1934 how the winters are getting colder. 1934 was the 2nd hottest year in the US ever as documented by NOAA. LOL
BTW - the year before in 1933 was the 2nd highest number of hurricanes recorded at 21 named storms. Hmmm, weather seems to be cyclical...
For those interested, according to NOAA, if you plot the time period from 1934 to 1998, the change in mean temperature trend is zero, nada, nichts... you get the point. In fact, from 1998 to now, the average mean temp in the US has dropped. Oophs, was that an inconvenient truth???
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
BTW - the year before in 19
March 26, 2007 - 10:41 ET by Dave in TexasBTW - the year before in 1933 was the 2nd highest number of hurricanes recorded at 21 named storms.
And I'd like to point out that there's no chance that number is on the low side. I mean, satellite technology hasn't improved that much from 1933 to present day.
And that's a point all the AG
March 26, 2007 - 11:22 ET by dscottAnd that's a point all the AGW people would like you to ignore since not all hurricanes make landfall and even if they did make landfall in a country other than the US, it probably didn't get recorded. So all those years before satellite technology were low end counts.
However we should not distract from the main point of the MSM and AGW folks, Katrina was the creation of Bush's weather machine (Fossil fuel burning) with Karl Rove at the controls. Of course, things had to been helped along a little by blowing up the levees according to Kayne West. It has nothing to do with Lousiana Governor (didn't know she had to call out the NG) or New Orleans mayor (not following the disaster plan) being a Dem and incompetent.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
Dave
March 26, 2007 - 12:31 ET by Noel SheppardDave,
Actually, I don't agree. There's a gentleman at NOAA -- I think his last name is Hansen -- who wrote a report last year claiming that satellite technology and their number have radically improved and increased in the past 30 years or so. As a result, his contention was that many hurricanes prior to the '70s were actually undetected, and that others were miscategorized in size.
As such, he believes that this so-called increase in intensity and frequency in the past five years is much more to do with the accuracy of detection and analysis. ns
FTR - Chris Landsea
March 26, 2007 - 13:00 ET by Gary HallFor the record, he is Chris Landsea (Hansen is the guy who complains about being muzzled, yet did 1400 interviews?) - and you got the science pretty much right on. But I'd add a couple of notes - Dave, we did not have satellites back in the 30's - not until the late 60's, I'm going to bet. And then, the early satellites, were just taking fuzzy pictures - was pretty basic stuff (I've seen better pictures of Pluto). NOAA's hurricane hunter teams - flying into the cyclones and collecting data, is where so much has been learned - I belived this was started after WW II - was probably limited at first.
Charts are handy here, but the information we do have, fairly clearly shows that the 70's, also being in the center of a cooling cycle, were the lull between cycles of much higher cyclonic activity on either side - the 40's were intense, and we are getting there once again. Landsea believes that we do not have completely acccurate records prior to the 1970's (they were particulary poor in the year 1236), and that many storms may have been underestimated. Example: Katrina was a Cat 5, 2 days prior to making landfall as a Cat. 3. In the past (prior to 1960's) we may have never known just how intense Katrina was.
Check this out.
Here's an interesting stat. Don't ya bet that most folks would say that it's never been like this in Florida before? :
I believe Dave was being sarc
March 26, 2007 - 14:27 ET by dscottI believe Dave was being sarcastic about the satellites in 1933, and he made a good point while doing it.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
dscott
March 26, 2007 - 14:35 ET by Noel SheppardDan,
You might be right. That darned sarcasmo cloaking device strikes again, eh?
I hate it when that happens! :-) ns
Gary Hall
March 26, 2007 - 14:49 ET by Noel SheppardG,
Boy, that's a tad embarrassing. That'll teach me to respond to a poster while driving. :-) ns
Whut??? You got one of thos
March 26, 2007 - 14:55 ET by dscottWhut??? You got one of those Blackberries do you? I can't dial a number on my cell phone without stopping, how do you manage to type a message on those little keys (I hope not while driving)?
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
dscott
March 26, 2007 - 15:08 ET by Noel SheppardDan,
Thanks for biting. :-)
Crackberry? Moi? No chance. I've got a device in my car that allows me to send thoughts to it telepathically. It then converts this to a digital signal sent by satellite to NewsBusters' servers. Unfortunately, it somehow mistook my synaptic transferance of Landsea as Hansen.
Once again, I hate it when that happens!
However, the beauty of this program is that I always have the perfect excuse when something like this occurs. Honestly, it's worth its weight in gold -- although don't tell sarcasmo!!! :-) ns
You mean a word recognition
March 26, 2007 - 15:40 ET by dscottYou mean a word recognition program on your laptop? Dang, that's slick.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
dscott
March 26, 2007 - 15:50 ET by Noel SheppardDan,
No. Telepathically. I don't have to touch a keyboard. It's spectacular.
The next thing I'm working on is creating a program where the device can anticipate my thoughts. This way, I won't even have to think of something brilliant -- the machine will do it all for me! :-) ns
Noel, if your computer ever,
March 26, 2007 - 21:22 ET by MikeBNoel, if your computer ever, ever addresses you with "Goodmorning, Dave," be afraid. Be very afraid.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Mike
March 26, 2007 - 21:27 ET by Noel SheppardMike,
Good point. It is, after all, called the HAL 9000. Hmmm. ns
Noel, if your computer ever,
March 26, 2007 - 21:22 ET by MikeBBloody double post!!!
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Noel
March 26, 2007 - 15:01 ET by Gary HallNoel. As you surely know - never is the intent to embarrass - just a techinical driving slip, as you noted, and an opportunity to set the record straight on Hansen one more time. By the way, was it not Gore who put up the first satellite back in the 30's, when he was wiring the internet? (;~> g
Climate is extremely cycl
March 26, 2007 - 12:27 ET by Lord ElicaniClimate is extremely cyclical. One of the main engines that drives the North American Climate is something called the North Atlantic Decadal Ossilation, but unfortunately, I can't remember what it encompasses.
However, when a friend and I asked a global warming 'expert' on the decadal ossilation, not only was he unable to answer how it contributes to our climate, but he didn't even bother to try, he just changed the subject.
This just in from the Natio
March 28, 2007 - 17:24 ET by ChumlyThis just in from the National Academy of Sciences (those are our nations most respected scientists, relied upon heavily by our nations government)...
http://www.pnas.org/...
Apparently, our nations top scientists believe that earth's climate is warming.
What if no one shows up, Chumley?
March 28, 2007 - 18:28 ET by RJCome on, doesn't anyone want to talk to this kid? He says he's angry, he hates this site and he's loaded for (polar) bear.
Poor Chumley. What if you kept trying to pick a fight and no one came? All those party favors gone to waste.... ;^>
Alas, RJ,Another one bites th
March 28, 2007 - 18:34 ET by BlondeAlas, RJ,
Another one bites the dust.
Okay, RJ, to be polite ...Chu
March 28, 2007 - 21:46 ET by dahliatraversOkay, RJ, to be polite ...
Chumly, Dr. Fred Singer is also a top scientist. He is one of many top scientists who have expressed concern about how the evidence for agw has been aggregated and interpreted. Which scientists do we listen to?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/warming/debate/singer.html
Ha, Dahlia
March 28, 2007 - 22:00 ET by RJHa, Dahlia. Well, good luck. To start with, Chumley won't accept it. He's like that kid Mikey in the old commercial ("Mikey won't eat it, he hates everything")
I could play dueling sites with him, too, but I tired of his leftist style of elastic vagueness. (h/t Peter Wood)
But if Algore's theory of doo
March 26, 2007 - 11:03 ET by SouthJersey1953But if Algore's theory of doom and gloom isn't true....where does that leave him?
Maybe it will force him back into seclusion so he can write his next book, "A Convenient Truth" where he can harp on the dangers of global cooling!!!
Thanks Noel or will you becom
March 26, 2007 - 11:16 ET by FastEdThanks Noel or will you become Summer Solstice? - I'm going out to get a big furry thin jacket, with snow shorts, and thick toeless socks for my snowshoe flip-flops. Not sure if I'll get a ushanka with a visor or go hatless. Sunglasses work both ways, so thanks for the info - I'll be prepared!
AND, I found algore's GW mentor's class.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Rise in CO2 follows the news.
March 26, 2007 - 11:27 ET by Gary HallSuper spot Noel.
Gore says that warming follows increases in CO2. Scientists say that increases in CO2 follow warming. Looks like rapid media predictions of disasters follow the natural turn of climate cycles.
Yes, yes, but as far as I c
March 26, 2007 - 11:28 ET by dervishYes, yes, but as far as I can tell, not a single writer or interviewed scientist in all those articles has an Oscar. Gore, therefore, must be correct.
Why so many warm wet nappies?
March 26, 2007 - 12:27 ET by Ten7sThe real question is "why now?" The climate's always changing. So why are there millions of Algorians wetting their nappies now? Why is Congress wasting time listening to this foolishness and taking is seriously?
We have Clowns, Jokers and Fools running the congress, the media, and many other important institutions, who are ignoring real problems and wasting time on make-believe problems. What's worse they're attacking anyone who is trying to address some of the real problems. And they attack capable leaders like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney with the most fury.
Because the Dems and Socialis
March 26, 2007 - 14:22 ET by dscottBecause the Dems and Socialists have nothing to hang their hat upon. The Soviet Union collasped and France isn't looking that good at the moment (10% unemployment, burning cars on weekends, etc..). The only way to stop the world from realizing capitalism is way better than socialism is to hobble it by a transfer of wealth scheme like Kyoto's cap and trade. It's called welfare on a global scale. Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush must be discredited and that means everything they represent in any way, otherwise, people will realize a free economy (Capitalist) is better for them than a managed one (Socialist). Then people will draw the conclusion that they were deliberately held down and kept poor by the elitist Socialists. This why they change the subject of wealth to environmentalism and envy by pointing to the US consumption of oil being 25% of the world's output by 5% of the world's population. What they don't want you to see is that we, the 5% of the world's population produce 25% of the world's GDP!!!!! GDP and energy consumption are proportional. It takes energy to create GDP, hence Socialists are embarrassed in the information age to acknowledge their policies have failed to raise the standard of living of their people, with the internet and TV they can't hide this disparity. They can't match the standard of living created in the US by capitalism, so they must destroy the US economy to stop their people from clamoring about their puny standard of living. We already have libs saying that the Chinese people should not be allowed to attain a US standard of living, they do this by claiming it is unobtainable. It's ok for Al Gore to enjoy his houses but the Chinese people have to live in squalor for him to do it.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
Two words for ya: GLOBAL TAX.
March 26, 2007 - 14:41 ET by Roger the ShrubberTwo words for ya: GLOBAL TAX.
NYTimes, 1/27/72: ... the a
March 26, 2007 - 15:27 ET by dahliatraversNYTimes, 1/27/72: ... the armadillos, faced with increasingly frigid weather, are in retreat ...
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE IGUANAS???
I've read all of Noel's con
March 26, 2007 - 20:06 ET by radiofitz34I've read all of Noel's content at the top of the page. I'd give you a raise Noel but I'm not calling the shots.
I noticed one interesting pattern from many of 60' and 70's articles written by Walter Sullivan. He did not seem to hold any certain opinion, he simply just reported it. Gosh I remember those days. Plus I reckon he'd too confused to form an opinion. Ice age or warming? Is it duck season or rabbit season (Bugs and Daffy)? Which puts Al Gore in the Elmer Fudd role. "I don't care what season it is, I'm gonna bwast you!"
But seriously, these NYT articles also show that we humans live in a small window of time. Now suddenly because they feel they know everything and the technology is at least slick enough to believe, it's Gore that wants to save us from the ultimate doom called...what was that? Global something.
RF
March 26, 2007 - 20:28 ET by Noel SheppardRF,
Agreed. Maybe most importantly, if this was the early '70s, Gore would have made the same film, but instead it would have been about how the burning of fossil fuels is causing so much pollution that we're in the beginning stages of an ice age. And, the extreme left would be calling global cooling skeptics the equivalent of Holocaust deniers.
In the end, this is all about advancing socialism, raising taxes, and controlling human behavior with absolutely no regard for the environment or energy conservation. And, anybody who can't see through it, frankly, deserves to be less financially successful, drive smaller cars, and live a more austere lifestyle.
However, those with fully functioning brain cells that aren't falling for this junk science should be left alone to pursue their lives without the pathetic opinions of blowhards being forced upon them. ns
In the end, this is all about
March 27, 2007 - 08:30 ET by dscottIn the end, this is all about advancing socialism, raising taxes, and controlling human behavior with absolutely no regard for the environment or energy conservation.
Precisely, if Al Gore actually believed what he said, then his actions would be consistent with his words. He certainly would not have 4 houses and certainly would not be using 20 times the electricity of the average American household in just one of those houses! Al Gore is an ego centric, extraverted con artist perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in human history. By Gore's own admission, the cap and trade scheme of Kyoto would have no effect (I believe he knew this from the beginning), it was a "feel good" program to get people to be environmentally conscious. In other words, lying for the greater good or the ends justify the means. Even when all the AGW stuff is debunked as it all eventually will be, Al Gore will still say it was justified to save the environment and his followers will still believe in him. It is not about truth, it is all about the agenda. AGW is but another example of the liberal triumph of classic circular reasoning!!!
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
double post
March 27, 2007 - 08:30 ET by dscottdouble post