Actor Sean Penn was at it again on Saturday.
This time, as he spoke to a town hall, antiwar meeting in Oakland, California, he made some truly despicable statements, including declaring that President George W. Bush has “become our country’s and our Constitution’s most devastating enemy.”
Those that are interested can read excerpts of his disgraceful speech here, or listen to some of his choice epithets on MP3 here.
Penn also declared to the President: “You and your smarmy pundits -- and the smarmy pundits you have in your pocket -- can take your war and shove it."
Frankly, reading this transcript once was more than I can bear. As such, I have no interest in dignifying this drivel by quoting from it any further.
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Check out that picture. He
March 25, 2007 - 23:04 ET by John in CACheck out that picture. He looks like a mad scientist, or a crazed liberal college professor. In reality, he's nothing more than an overbearing, self-important actor.
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
Wow, that was disturbing, a
March 25, 2007 - 23:08 ET by MBConservWow, that was disturbing, and to quote, "someone show me to the nearest water closet."
"Before I refuse to take your questions...I have a statement.." Ronald Reagan
First thing I though was Hit
March 26, 2007 - 02:57 ET by Dan The Man 2First thing I though was Hitler with that small mustache and hair.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
My thought was Groucho Marx
March 26, 2007 - 06:32 ET by motherbeltMy thought was Groucho Marx.
Shut up, Mr. Penn. Just. Shut. Up.
Sean Penn
March 26, 2007 - 06:55 ET by SportPoliticsI thought drug addict, comb your hair. Then I made it through about a minute of his 8 minute whining diatribe. Delete.
Sean Penn
March 26, 2007 - 14:11 ET by Amanda JusticeYou know what I'd like to see? A Bonaduce Vs. Penn throw-down on respecting the Office of the President. Bonaduce would shove the microphone down his pie hole.
He's a dead ringer for Profes
March 26, 2007 - 08:28 ET by AlgerHissHe's a dead ringer for Professor Irwin Corey!
By the way, Sean, Leo was an untalented, communist hack.
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
The good thing about scient
March 27, 2007 - 12:35 ET by ChumlyThe good thing about scientists and college professor's is...well, they are smart. Congratulations, you just gave Penn a backhanded complement.
How about you? Got anything of substance to refute what he actually SAID.
Dear chumply the ignoramus
March 27, 2007 - 22:15 ET by SportPoliticsDear chumply the ignoramus, they do indeed. They can go on a 3 hour diatribe concerning the near endless list of Clinton criminal cabal crimes, without mentioning sex.
Or, they can say the same thing idiot blubbermouth said and just insert the words slick willie in place of "he" or "Bush", you low level moron.
Here, see how it works retard > : " Slick willie and his a** kissing pundits can shove it ! He destroyed the credibility of the USA and made us a laughing stock to the world."
Let it sink in, fool, it might do you some good.
Chumly, how about these gems ?
March 27, 2007 - 22:31 ET by SportPoliticsChumly, how about these gems, by crazed lunatic drug addict slum peon: ( since they're self-refuting or O=opinion, no "substantive factual rebuttal" is required )
1. You have broken our country and our hearts. T or F ? FO
2. The needless blood on your hands, T or F ? FO
3. We cower as you point fingers telling us to "support our troops." T or F ? obviously FALSE,a LIE - a play it up LIE
4. Well, you and the smarmy pundits in your pocket, those who bathe in the moisture of your soiled and bloodstained underwear, can take that noise and shove it. T or F ? FFFO and " the lib cowerer smarting off"
Is that when you idiot leftists cheer and demand what your ****in' moronboy has said needs to be "refuted " ?
Really bud - how pathetic are you ? That was the latter half of the second paragraph and the start of the third,above.
If you are that sick that you think skum peon's "opinion" - often mingled with lying and insulting "metaphors for your bare naked hatred" are worthy of being "refuted by good argument" - you are a piece of idiot crapola.
You want to change your stupid moronic statement to: " I really enjoyed Penn being a smarmy low life insulting turdbag, although I have just spent days whining people here throw insults, so in order to be a good and correct open minded liberal, if I were to take my own advice, I would need to ' have some substance to refute what insults were actually said about me' ,or be a man not a skumbag, and admit slum penn is an insulting jerkoff, far worse than most if not all on this site".
A cold day in heck there bimbo. A very, very cold day.
I figured Penn was in Oakland
March 25, 2007 - 23:08 ET by chris_gillI figured Penn was in Oakland to protest th horrendous murder rate in there. And the politicians that represent Oakland look for opportuniities like this to help people forget there own record on representing their district is lame at best.
Heck, if I sucked as a public servant, I would hold a town hall meeting to talk about thee war in Iraq, even if the war in Iraq had 0 impact on my city, as is the case for Oakland
Penn...Filthy swine.Move out
March 25, 2007 - 23:10 ET by bigtimerPenn...
Filthy swine.
Move out of our country and take all your ilk with you.
There ought to be a law!
I am so sick of these creatures...with zilch for brains.
BT, please tell about this
March 26, 2007 - 01:29 ET by bushwickbillBT, please tell about this law...to ban free speech? Why don't you move out of the country, to Putin's paradise, because that seems to be the kind of leadership/government you want.
We're sick of you, and Gonzales, and Rove, and all the other sanctimonious liars of the Grandiose Olde Partay.Hey BushwickBill:Do you act
March 26, 2007 - 02:05 ET by MBConservHey BushwickBill:
Do you actually have the audacity to bring up free speech? In case you have been in hibernation the past few years (you f*ing liberal scum), the only people who enjoy free speech are those with liberal views. And yet, you have the audacity once again to use the phrase "liars?" Why don't you use your computer for something other than throwing your idiotic liberal attack bombs. For example, why don't you research William Jefferson (D-LA) and wonder why the hell he still in Congress. Republicans have had their share of weeds with Duke and Foley, but are they serving in Congress now, hell no! Is William Jefferson..........?
"Before I refuse to take your questions...I have a statement.." Ronald Reagan
What do Rove and Gonzales h
March 26, 2007 - 05:42 ET by motherbeltWhat do Rove and Gonzales have to do with this? You're like a fishwife who, every time she is mad at her husband, drags up everything she can think of.
mb,Not a thing. Just anothe
March 26, 2007 - 05:46 ET by Blondemb,
Not a thing. Just another drive by troll.
They think they're so clever.
Well, if you guys think you
March 27, 2007 - 11:54 ET by ChumlyWell, if you guys think you are so clever, lets go back to the subject. Can you refute anything that Sean Penn said?
Chumster!
March 27, 2007 - 12:00 ET by RJChumster! Thought you weren't gonna hang out here any more? I guess the idea that we're out here, just waiting to be "educated" was too much for you, eh?
I think it was your last in
March 27, 2007 - 12:28 ET by ChumlyI think it was your last insult that made me look for another lame rant by you guys. I came across this one and (as I suspected), just a bunch of name callers. No substance. No refuting anything he said. Just the same fascist attitude of "can't we just shut that guy up", or "make him leave the country", and other inane nonsense.
Please, refute some of the things that Penn said. Either do that, or admit that what he is saying is accurate. No more of the name calling. Its just embarassing.
No thanks, Chumster
March 27, 2007 - 12:41 ET by RJNo thanks. Arguing with you is like arguing with Tar Baby. You're both made up of a gooey mass of no substance, Chumster.
Your need to identify with a piece of slime like Penn says everything there is to say about you....but I'm still laughing that you couldn't stay away from the best site on the internet. ;^>
Can you refute anything tha
March 27, 2007 - 12:39 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsCan you refute anything that Sean Penn said?
Yep, he's wrong.
I'm right.
Refute that.
D
A day without NewsBusters is like a day without sunshine.
"BT, please tell about
March 26, 2007 - 13:00 ET by ckc1227"BT, please tell about this law...to ban free speech? Why don't you move out of the country, to Putin's paradise, because that seems to be the kind of leadership/government you want."
I'll raise you one: Why doesn't Penn go to Russia, or Iran, since he thinks that is such a great country, and deliver a similar speech in public slamming their politicians, especially since he feels so oppressed here? Because he's a lying, hypocritical puss who values his ugly head, that's why.
solution
March 25, 2007 - 23:12 ET by misterbillDraft the son of a b---- and put him in the field in Iraq.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
Hey! I don't WANT him......
March 26, 2007 - 10:26 ET by BDHey! I don't WANT him......
Hey--I'll throw in---
March 26, 2007 - 10:32 ET by misterbillHey--I'll throw in---Jimmy Carter and give you two future draft picks of liberals who are trained to dig slit trenches.
OK, OK plus two weeks R&R in a desert of your choice.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
Latrines and Camel Spiders!
March 26, 2007 - 10:32 ET by MightyMouthHave him dig the latrines and chase Camel Spiders! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
A draft isn't at all about
March 26, 2007 - 10:35 ET by sarcasmoA draft isn't at all about military readiness. It's about control. I'm sure some control-freak in some part the government "wants" everyone, no matter what physical or mental condition.
JMR
You are correct its the democ
March 27, 2007 - 22:21 ET by James2306You are correct its the democratic party
The hottest places in hell are oft reserved for those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral
Put him on point BD. That sho
March 26, 2007 - 11:01 ET by bassndudePut him on point BD. That should take some to the starch out of his undies. Penn..."No, I never was a soldier, but I pretended to be one once." Gotta be a quote out there somewhere like that one that ole loud mouth made.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
What a vulgar display of cowa
March 25, 2007 - 23:18 ET by Atomic CrusaderWhat a vulgar display of cowardice and ignorance. Absolutely disgraceful and disgusting. The Islamofascists would slit his puny throat in a second if they had the chance, he wouldn't dare use such talk against them, he wouldn't dare!! It really is true that Hollywood is now a complete cesspool of filth and depravity, no doubt about it.
You got that right! I hardly
March 25, 2007 - 23:23 ET by mostlymoderateYou got that right! I hardly EVER watch movies because I don't have time. However, this weekend I finally rented a few movies on DVD. SICKENING. Everything in movies is turning queers, drugs, and thugs. I mean nasty, despicable movies that celebrate the darkside. I hate the movies as much as I hate Hollywood itself.
MM - The genre of today's movies---
March 25, 2007 - 23:37 ET by misterbillMM - The genre of today's movies---is such that older people like me (60s and 70s) do not enjoy most of them, so we stop going. Remembre the hokey movies "Cocoon" and "Return of cocoon??". They grossed almost $100mil. Hey, they were corny as can be, but my wife and I saw both.I admit I like action movies. I recently saw "Blood Diamond". It was pretty good. But, I prefer to turn to cable and watch the old movies over again. I do not do or have demographic info. but I will wager H'wood is missing out on a lot of money by ignoring older people.
Yup, I loved Cocoon. Nice li
March 26, 2007 - 00:06 ET by mostlymoderateYup, I loved Cocoon. Nice light-hearted movie with no "agenda". I am only 33 but I despise most any movie made within the last 10 years (ofcourse, there are a few wonderful exceptions). YOU ARE RIGHT about Hollywood missing out on the older crowd. Let's hope Hollywood meets this demand eventually and gets away from the "gangsta-wannabe-drug-addiction-queer" crowd. Bleh!
I would suggest the movie Era
March 27, 2007 - 22:24 ET by James2306I would suggest the movie Eragon I think it was great (written by a 16 year old here in Mont.)
The hottest places in hell are oft reserved for those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral
Hi James...What part of Mt. a
March 27, 2007 - 22:29 ET by bigtimerHi James...
What part of Mt. are you in?
Hi Bigtimer I am in Bozeman.T
March 27, 2007 - 22:32 ET by James2306Hi Bigtimer I am in Bozeman.
The hottest places in hell are oft reserved for those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral
Well great to see another Mon
March 27, 2007 - 22:52 ET by bigtimerWell great to see another Montanian here!
I'm by Libby/Troy/Bonners Ferry, Id...
We are quite a ways apart!
Big Sky Country and all that!
I listened to the speech wi
March 25, 2007 - 23:45 ET by radiofitz34I listened to the speech with as much of open mind as I could muster. Mr. Penn was fairly eloquent but at the same time is prejudging the Bush administration's intent. I also didn't appeciate his belittling tone towards Bush, Cheney and Condi Rice.
He was right about only one thing. That many young males in Iran would rather see their gov't be more democratic than theocratic.
Still that does'nt get Sean Penn a pass because he was clearly aiming for shock value in many of his statements. Some of his stranger accusations only got a handful of applause.
The moral of the story is: if Sean Penn what's to sound like an idiot, the first amendment allows that.
Um...just to bring you back
March 27, 2007 - 12:17 ET by ChumlyUm...just to bring you back to reality...cowardice and ignorance???!! He went to Iraq. He went outside the green-zone to see what was going on there. They did not slit his throat.
He went to Iran to see what was going on there. Again, no throat slitting.
I would have to say that calling him ignorant is an ignorant thing to say. I would also have to say that calling him a coward is as well. How do you people justify the things you say about others.
So, travelling to another country to find out what is going on there, prior to invasion is only done by depraved, filthy cowards?? It sounds like a pretty smart thing to do if you ask me. Had anyone listened to him, our country would have over 3,200 more people in it.
It's a well known fact that P
March 25, 2007 - 23:55 ET by Del DolemonteIt's a well known fact that Penn has not only been afflicted with BDS, but also PRWDS (Post Ray Walston Depression Syndrome).
In fact, "Mister Spicoli" hasn't been the same since Ray left Hillarywood and went back to Mars...which happened about 3 weeks before the recorded history of the modern earth was erased simply because Dubyah Bush assumed office.
THAT'S Sean Penn??!? WOW! He
March 26, 2007 - 00:08 ET byTHAT'S Sean Penn??!? WOW! He has aged really badly!
And 10 bucks says he does not know the first thing about the US Constitution. ---Heck, make it 20!
I bet you ANYTHING that befor
March 26, 2007 - 00:12 ET by mostlymoderateI bet you ANYTHING that before he dies, Sean Penn will run for some sort of political office. Congress? I know that is what he is working up to.
mm..I bet you are correct!Cal
March 26, 2007 - 00:19 ET by bigtimermm..
I bet you are correct!
California is a great place to do it too!
Unfortunately!
Oh I know! Sean Penn as a ho
March 26, 2007 - 00:24 ET by mostlymoderateOh I know! Sean Penn as a house in the prestigious "Sausalito" area of San Francisco; right on the bay I might add. Yeah, this is one of those really rich Hollywood type that isn't good for anyone. Not the Republicans, not the Democrats, MAYBE the Greens...lol
I personally don't like Sean Penn or the message he promotes. I am old enough to remember him being a cocky young star that was always in trouble.
Well, if he did, he'd fit r
March 26, 2007 - 00:27 ET by John in CAWell, if he did, he'd fit right in with some of the other leftist moonbat representatives CA sends to Congress - Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman, SanFranNan, Fortney Stark, just to name a few.
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
I know! I live in San Franci
March 26, 2007 - 00:31 ET by mostlymoderateI know! I live in San Francisco so I get the worst of the worst. Can you believe they tried to ban guns here a year ago too? lol. Stupid politicians. Yup, Sean Penn is quite active in San Francisco, maybe he will run for mayor or something. Scary. I remember this little twit in "Fast Times At Ridgemont High". Unfortunatly, Sean Penn is NOTHING like the cool charactors he might play in film.
I know! I live in San Franci
March 26, 2007 - 00:31 ET by mostlymoderatedouble post deleted
...Pretty in Pink Lynn Woolse
March 26, 2007 - 00:33 ET by bigtimer...Pretty in Pink Lynn Woolsey...Berkely's BarbaraLee...the Sanchez gals....
Well, mostlymoderate, if Sean
March 26, 2007 - 09:57 ET byWell, mostlymoderate, if Sean Penn were to ever run for a political office, he already has the 'nut' behavior and look to match, to run as a Democrat.
ick!
"And 10 bucks says he
March 26, 2007 - 13:08 ET by ckc1227"And 10 bucks says he does not know the first thing about the US Constitution. ---Heck, make it 20!"
$100 bucks says he can't even spell "Constitution".
How big of an undesirable idi
March 26, 2007 - 00:54 ET by Right Wing Attack DogHow big of an undesirable idiot would you have to be to get dumped by a skank like Madonna? Also, his father was a communist and a pioneer of leftist moonbats in America. The apple fell right under the tree, in a deep hole!
****For Hire Ads****One out o
March 26, 2007 - 01:47 ET by Sua Sponte 75****For Hire Ads****
One out of work struggling actor, experienced in pure clownmanship....have shotgun and canoe, will travel...
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
Sean Penn wasn't even that gr
March 26, 2007 - 01:52 ET by mostlymoderateSean Penn wasn't even that great an actor. Isn't it funny how most of the really GOOD actors/directors like Spielberg, Scorcese, DeNiro, Al Pacino, Kevin Spacey's, Christopher Walkins, etc etc stay out of politics COMPLETELY. Why? Because they can ACT and they can get JOBS! I mean when was the last time you saw Anthony Hopkins bashing the President? In Hollywood, when you can ACT you ACT. When you CAN'T, you become an ACTivist. lol
Hey Sean! You're an A C
March 26, 2007 - 02:26 ET by gordonHey Sean! You're an A C T O R!!!
You're not an expert on combat, counterinsurgancy, politics, statecraft, and certainly not intelligence!
From Sean---
March 26, 2007 - 10:09 ET by misterbillFrom Sean: Oh yeah!!! I was in a couple of war movies. I don't need anyone to teach me about war! My low IQ does not affect my politics????
How Modern Liberals Think
March 26, 2007 - 02:27 ET by Sua Sponte 75HT Ace/Jawa
How Modern Liberals ThinkPretty damn good. The nutroots hate it, which means it is deadly accurate.
Being a former liberal Democrat, I can vouch for much of this. The general ethos of the leftist mind necessitates that you must resist restraining (conservative) impulses. Logic and reason are restraining impulses. Since modern liberalism is primarily a state of unrestrained emotional turbulence, the liberal must find reasons for excusing his most base emotional instincts and instead embrace the "liberation" that comes from not being able to summon reason to control your impulses. Many consequently fall prey to the tempting natural impulse of letting emotion override logic and reason. The liberal creed dictates that feelings are more important than anything, and that they shall hold court over reason.
That's why a liberal will be willing and able to find just about any reason to compare Bush to Hitler or Bin Laden (or whoever), but has a hard time thinking of reasons and using that wild imagination of his/hers to think about how a driven and financed terrorist cell could smuggle and detonate a dirty bomb (or even just a fertilizer bomb) into some part of a major city and kill thousands of lefty like-minded thinkers just like him.
Plus, they hate the military and the Troops. Votes and blood money don't lie.
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
Amazing, I keep scrolling
March 27, 2007 - 12:26 ET by ChumlyAmazing, I keep scrolling down the comments and have not found person yet who has refuted anything Penn said in his speach.
I keep hearing how Penn is so ignorant and just a nutcase.
I am guessing that Penn is much more well travelled than any of us here. MUCH more. I think the claim of ignorance can be put to rest.
He has walked among the Iraqis and Iranians. I think the claim of cowardice can be put to rest.
You people are attacking the man because you can't make a dent into what he is saying. You are basically "swift boating" him. You are attacking his character and not his message in the belief that the rest of you are so easily persuaded that you can distract each other from the guys message. (that tactic has worked before in your circles).
Among other things Penn sai
March 27, 2007 - 12:36 ET by MightyMouthAmong other things Penn said:declaring that President George W. Bush has “become our country’s and our Constitution’s most devastating enemy.”
Ok you want a refutation then I will use the same "evidence" that Penn uses:
MM declaring that President George W. Bush has “NOT become our country’s and our Constitution’s most devastating enemy.”
Now, my statement is just as valid as Penn's. It's his opinion dumbass!
And BTW the NB WYSIWYG editor SUCKS! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it."
MM says...Incorrect. Bush has devest
March 27, 2007 - 12:48 ET by ChumlyIncorrect. Bush has devestated our reputation in the world (any allies left out there??)
In the war in Iraq (which is not the war on terror as he has told you) Bush is responsible for as many deaths of Americans as Bin Laden (all based on lies). He (and his suporters) were told that the war would end up as it currently is - a major cluster F...
Bush has admitted to making the decision to go behind the back of the FISA court.
Not opinion. These are facts, smart guy. And, they are common knowledge.
Then why can't you idiots i
March 27, 2007 - 12:56 ET by MightyMouthThen why can't you idiots impeach the "bastard"? And by the way, the imagined cluster "f" of the war is largely because the MSM and Democrats screw it up at every opportunity... just as they are trying to do now. No siree buddy, you dumbasses have got your own selves to blame for having everyones undies in a grundy!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Imagined!!??We have been a
March 27, 2007 - 13:14 ET by ChumlyImagined!!??
We have been at war in Iraq longer than our involvement in WWII. We crushed Japan and Germany with the help of our allies with our military might. We can't solve this one with our military. If we coulda, We woulda. Long before now.
And, we shouldn't even be fighting over there. We should be fighting the people who attacked us on 9/11.
The Media and the Democrats have screwed up this war!!?? Something is wrong with your timeline...Up until VERY recently, we have not had a say in the way that the war is prosecuted. Bush has not listened to the American people once. That is why his approval ratings are the lowest of any President in over half a century - in the low 30s.
Chumly, did you know that w
March 27, 2007 - 13:28 ET by MightyMouthChumly, did you know that we made it to Bagdahd in 21 days? During the whole time the MSM and Dims were doing nothing but bitchin !
Soooo, we crushed the Iraqi army in less than a month.
Now we are fighting an Insurgency just as we did at the end of WWII. Not much difference there is it? Since you still must be in grade school, I must inform you that we still have Military troops in ...guess... where? Yes, Japan AND Germany!
And if you don't think we are fighting the people who attacked us on 9/11 then you obviously have not heard of Al Qeida! You'll get that in High School, so hang in there!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Ohh?? We are fighting an i
March 27, 2007 - 15:27 ET by ChumlyOhh?? We are fighting an insurgency? Whose side are we on over there?? Please inform me.
We are in the middle of a civil war and have been since not long after those 21 days you mentioned. Mission Accomplished?? I don't think so.
There were no Al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq prior to our invasion and occupation.
Now, Al-Qaeda-in -Iraq (which is different from Al-Qaeda, but, Bill O'Reilly won't tell you that) is a group that is a successor to Al Zarqawi's group. Al Zarqawi declared war on the Shias.
We are in the middle of someone elses war and our boys and girls are getting killed just because they are there and considered to be Infidels. We have a Christian army in the middle of a Muslem conflict.
We crushed the Iraqi military with our military. We CANNOT get a victory over what is occuring over there now with our military. If so, It would be over by now. We need to use diplomacy, not military. Our mere presence is making it more difficult to claim victory.
When Bush took us to war in Iraq, he gravely risked our credibility. If we can not somehow get out of this mess and make it look like we did not screw things up severely, Bush will be more damaging to our country than anyone else.
Chumley, I dont know you from
March 27, 2007 - 15:44 ET by bassndudeChumley, I dont know you from adam, however, I do know your kind. Your one of the jane fonda types that are out there today. Only diffrence is, you dont have the money, or pull to get over to Iran and sit on a cannon pointed at our troops. Your dispicable. And your NOT very well informed. Our credibility was trashed after Waco, WTC 1, USS Cole to name a few. The only reason the terrorists attacked on 9-11 was because they figured we wouldent come after them. They were wrong then, as you are now. Al Queda is calling for their fighters to go to Sommalia now. Leave Iraq and go to the little african nation where they think they can win. Why is that do you think? Join the military, Army or Marines. Then come back here and tell us. Dont come in here and dribble your ignorance or combat or strategy. Be a man for a change.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
You are not doing your bret
March 27, 2007 - 16:28 ET by ChumlyYou are not doing your brethren any good with your reply. I am still waiting for someone to refute either what I just said or what Penn said.
by the way........Al-Qaeda was in somalia and shot down our helicopters in 1993. They are not just going there now. They have been there.
Our entire nation (including Dems) and many of our allies were all for us attacking Bin Laden in Afghanistan. We were all for it. We also saw right through Bush's bogus attempt to connect Al-Qaeda with Saddam. Remember, the 9/11 commission disproved any such connection.
It was Al-Qaeda's DREAM that we would do something as foolish as invade Iraq. They are laughing at us. Bush has made all of the wrong decisions, and has actually played right into Al-Qaeda's hands. At every turn. Bush has weakened our nation, in many ways, financially, militarily, credibility. We had sooo much support from other nations immediately after 9/11. Now?? Not so much. Bush pissed away all of the goodwill.
BTW, you don't have to insult people because they don't agree with you or they disprove your point. It definitely takes away from your credibility. Just a hint...
Last refute and testament
March 27, 2007 - 18:58 ET by acumen"I am still waiting for someone to refute either what I just said or what Penn said."
Happy to oblige. Obviously my arguments aren't good enough for you. So, as long as you don't mind if it's our military guys and girls in Iraq and the Iraqi citizens that refute you, why not take a look at this and then tell me again how we can't win militarily in Iraq. On second thought don't even bother, obviously you and a deranged actor know more than the situation in Iraq than the people living and working there.
acumen...Thank you so much fo
March 27, 2007 - 19:21 ET by bigtimeracumen...
Thank you so much for the great video...I will be sending this to others!
Bless our military...and shame to the msm.
These type of obvious improvements need to be shown to the American people...daily!
Not hidden.
Only bad news will do it for the cut and run defeatist enemy within this country!
Chumly: I dident intend to do
March 28, 2007 - 09:13 ET by bassndudeChumly: I dident intend to do my breathern any good. They can take care of themselves. It is not that Al Qaeda was not in Somilia, the fact is that they are calling for their members to leave Iraq and go to Somilia now. They lost somilia to the ethopian army. They were kicked out and killed. Most had left to go to Iraq, now they need them back. Like I said, your not very well informed. What you and penn said dosent require someone to refute it. It is bogus. They are idiotic statements made by ignorant idiots. Why do you stand up and be a man and join the military. Get some first hand experience and a little education in the process. It might make you a better person. Might.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
pull the plug
March 27, 2007 - 13:36 ET by acumenIt's cool. Listen to a friggin' actor that can't even remember to put his transom drain plug in his boat before launching. That's the perfect source for someone like you to get your war on terrorism talking points.
What's your real problem? You afraid the Iraqis are starting to get their act together and you won't be able to stop the war before victory does? I can understand your concern. That would give proof to the useful idiot you are, wouldn't it? Why don't you get over yourself and your hateful obsession with Bush and start thinking of the Iraqi people? You think the terrorist slaughter of these innocents on their way to the market to get the evening meal would stop if we left now? A victory for the Iraqi people and a future of freedom is in their grasp now and you want to pull the plug......much like your hero Penn.
Useful Chumps
March 27, 2007 - 13:16 ET by acumen"Bush has devestated our reputation in the world (any allies left out there??)"
Er, Great Britain, Italy, Germany (recently elected CONSERVATIVE PM), Canada (recently elected CONSERVATIVE PM), Australia, most former Soviet bloc countries, most SA countries, Isreal, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Jordan, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc, etc.
Of course the only people that place reputation above the threat of terrorism are the very same people that are doing everything in their power to ruin our reputation.........which brings me to YOU're next comment:
"In the war in Iraq (which is not the war on terror as he has told you) Bush is responsible for as many deaths of Americans as Bin Laden (all based on lies). He (and his suporters) were told that the war would end up as it currently is - a major cluster F..."
Not the war on terror? The thousands of dead terrorists in Iraq that now won't be taking the next flight to NY give you the lie.
Bush is responsible for as many deaths of Americans as Bin laden? How many planes has Bush flown into American buildings? I know, I know, Bush is responsible for the Cole, the embassy bombings in Kenya, the embassy bombings in Tanzania and every other senseless death Bin laden is behind even before Bush became President.
"Bush has admitted to making the decision to go behind the back of the FISA court".
And we have useful idiots like yourself to thank for making that necessary.
"Not opinion. These are facts, smart guy."
And Clinton did "not have sex with that woman" is a fact too?
Look, if you don't like Bush, fine. There are plenty of cry-room sites available to you. Just don't come into our house whining your fictitous talking points - we're too busy here using analytical thinking while trying to save your a$$ from terrrorists and their media supporters so you can feel good dissing us and our war-time President. Do something constructive to support your bizarro views - Iran is looking for a few good useful Chumps for human shield duty.
You are not fooling anyone
March 27, 2007 - 14:26 ET by ChumlyYou are not fooling anyone but the ditto heads here.
You said:
"we're too busy here using analytical thinking while trying to save your
a$$ from terrrorists and their media supporters so you can feel good
dissing us and our war-time President. Do something constructive to
support your bizarro views..."
Oh yeah??!!
All I have seen is a bunch of name calling. All you guys are doing is trashing Penn for speaking his mind. None of you has taken the time to refute anything he said.
And, some have even suggested that he has no right to say what he did. Some of you would have him muzzled and/or kicked out of our country. Does fascism come to mind?
Remember, Iraq did not attack us on 9/11. Bush's friends, the Saudis did. We took the fight to Afghanistan where Bin Laden was hiding and then Bush re-directed our efforts to Iraq.
The whole Plamegate thing proved that the President knew that the information he was using to make the case for attacking Iraq was bogus. He still told us otherwise in his State of the Union Address. Iraq was NOT the war on terror.
We are in the middle of a civil war over there now, and we are responsible.
MM - I admire you forbearan
March 27, 2007 - 13:08 ET by Jack BauerMM - I admire you forbearance. But don't waste your time on him. He's like mad-woman shit: all over the place. And deliberately so. It's an old tactic.
The statement you mention from the former Mr. Madonna is so historically absurd as to border on the insanely ignorant.
You don't have to refute something that's on the intellectual level of a ten year old. It refutes itself.
But at least Mr. Madonna refutes the idea that glasses make people look more intelligent.
I hear ya Jack, It's just t
March 27, 2007 - 13:15 ET by MightyMouthI hear ya Jack, It's just that I am getting sick and tired of liberal BDS impaired jagoffs constantly pissin in the punch bowl! And besides... I needed something fun to do during lunch break! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM -- So long as you're get
March 27, 2007 - 13:26 ET by Jack BauerMM -- So long as you're getting something out of it then!
I love it when the former Mr. Madonna and his ilk open their yaps. It always plays SO well in flyover country.
That's unless all over America indifferance and apathy breaks out at his wisdom. Barack Obama's people are praying he doesn't endorse him.
Devestated
March 26, 2007 - 03:44 ET by acumen"George W. Bush has “become our country’s and our Constitution’s most devastating enemy.”
You don't say Sean (isn't that French for gone)? I'll play...... Sean has become his own most devastating enemy to water craft.
Is it possible he is doing th
March 26, 2007 - 03:55 ET by Gat New YorkIs it possible he is doing this to regenerate the character of Jeff Spicoli, because he sure sounds as dumb as him?
Spicoli Was Smarter
March 26, 2007 - 06:05 ET by EllisWyattI disagree. Spicoli was much smarter and more coherent.
If you're not outraged at the media, you haven't been paying attention.
I read this blather yesterday
March 26, 2007 - 04:51 ET by old croI read this blather yesterday. Curious, I went to his bio to see what type of education mr penn has accumulated during his years of existence to see what formal training he has to comment on public policy and such. Listed in his bio....Nada, although it touts him as being a "journalist". Maybe the University of Florida will give him an honorary degree? Maybe he can play a caveman in the next commercial, without the make-up? Maybe he will just go away? Naw....that's hoping for to much.
"Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom."
- General George Patton
Remember Mr. Penn.......
March 26, 2007 - 06:03 ET by OldSailor88It's much better to be thought of as an idiot
Than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Penn strikes again...This guy
March 26, 2007 - 06:22 ET by Senior ChiefPenn strikes again...This guy hasn't recovered from all the pot he smoked during his "Fast Times..." movie. Hey dude, I applaud you, for a moron like you, what did you do to be invited to speak in a gathering of "intellectual" morons? Yepppey. Oh by the way, do you really know OUR constitution? Let me make it simpler, can you recite the Pledge of Allegiance?
Okay Do Something
March 26, 2007 - 07:19 ET by Ole_SargeIf Mr. Penn is soooo good, go to Iran and get our Allies back (the Brit Sailors and Marines). Come on show all of us that are just "too stupid to "get it" that the Iranians are our friends like Hugo is.
Go on, if they are just sooooooo peaceful and no one's enemy, go on, go over there. Tell their media how wonderful they are, and how you know they would not hurt a fly. Go on.
Mr. Penn, you and your Leftie friends, go on over that and see for yourselves how these men are fairing.
Go check their health status, has an international organization like the Red Cross gone in to visit them? Are they getting access to religious goods like Bibles and Christian (if they are Christians) Chaplains??? Are they getting fed up to 4 times a day? Are they getting rest? At least 6 hours uninterrupted??
You sorry piece of work, better men and women are dying so you can spew your hateful vomit all over. You are not worth the air we breathe.
Why does anyone give two sh*t
March 26, 2007 - 07:47 ET by I am conservativeWhy does anyone give two sh*ts about what this freak of a man says or cares about? Yes we all have the right to speak our opinion and say what we want about the Administration, but for God's sake someone cram a wad of the L.A. Times down his throat....Shut him upppp....Even his movies suck...
Twelve steps
March 26, 2007 - 07:48 ET by averagejoeA child of privilege grows into a resentful alcoholic directing his emotional fury towards a substitute father figure. Why is anyone surprised? Show me someone who rages against conservative government and traditional religious values and I will show you someone from a broken home who associates these things with the parent that he or she believes failed to fulfill that person's childhood needs.
Penn needs to sober up and grow up.
I disagree about Sean Penn, I loved his part in Team America!
March 26, 2007 - 08:18 ET by mikejFor anyone interested. Here is Sean Penn's greatest movie role of all time. I think he really nails his character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q36VmdKkhGk
What a shock. An actor with
March 26, 2007 - 08:23 ET by Al CzervikWhat a shock. An actor with an overinflated sense of self importance spouts off about the war and the Bush administration, and the media covers it with nary a negative word. As this group continues to marginalize itself, they will have to come up with more and more outragious hyperbole in order to get noticed.
My guess is that Tim Robbin's agent is scrambling right now to get him a speaking engagement so that he can complain about his loss of free speech.
Hey Penn: STFUUnless you're
March 26, 2007 - 08:42 ET by wiwfHey Penn: STFU
Unless you're a registered libertarian or anarchist, you have no right to call our country a police state and cry about civil liberties. You in the fringe left need to take a while to actually do research about how liberalism the "slow-bleed" strategy for America's future, be it financially, morally, or civilly.
I wish you could have performed this exact speech back in the '50s. Truman had worse poll numbers than Bush, and had Korea to work with.
Hey, let him keep talking.
March 26, 2007 - 08:58 ET by Dave in TexasHey, let him keep talking. That was one of the most incoherent, pointless and unintentionally hilarious ramblings I've read yet:
"... those who bathe in the moisture of your soiled and bloodstained underwear..."
Apparently Sean is now taking writing lessons from psychotic middle eastern and latin american dictators.
"We can choose the next president. You and me, the farmer in Wisconsin, the boys at Google, and Bill Gates."
???...???...???...???
Hitler!
March 26, 2007 - 09:35 ET by ChasvsSo when, oh when are they going to throw this facist in jail? This is classical sedition and MUST be dealt with. If we don't STOP these lunatics, we will see the end of our Democracy in our lifetime! Sean, Rosie O, hillary and the rest of the Democrat nutroots are going to get us ALL Killed! What the F^ck are we waiting for?
Chasvs,I don't think these
March 26, 2007 - 09:43 ET by MightyMouthChasvs,
I don't think these nutcases can be thrown in jail. We would have to re-instate the sedition acts to accomplish that. One thing that makes America uh...er America is the right to speak out against the government without being thrown in jail.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Chas, the press has been MUCH worse
March 26, 2007 - 09:46 ET by RJChas, until relatively recently, the press/media in America has been MUCH worse than what we are currently seeing. If you can, pick up a copy of "Infamous Scribblers" by Eric Burns. The "sedition" route against the press was also tried against the press way back then, but it was reeled back in.
Chas, the irony about whay
March 27, 2007 - 17:01 ET by ChumlyChas, the irony about whay you said is that throwing someone in jail for what they said IS fascism. I see a lot of that attitude on this blog. Look at all the comments about Penn. No one is even trying to refute what he said. Just a bunch of name calling and rants about shutting him up, throwing him in jail, kicking him out of the country...Fascism.
Chumpster's usual lack of acuity
March 27, 2007 - 17:13 ET by RJExcept, with your usual lack of acuity, Tar Baby, you overlook that he was immediately contradicted by TWO posters, who both explained that our early "fascist" government had already been through that route.
Just using your own words t
March 27, 2007 - 18:26 ET by ChumlyJust using your own words to show how un-American and well...Fascist a lot of you guys sound. You really do. Yourself included.
Chum,Why do you like this sit
March 27, 2007 - 18:33 ET by bigtimerChum,
Why do you like this site?
Why do you post here?
You obviously are bored with your little life or you are a troll.
No in-between for me when it comes to you.
I really don't like the sit
March 27, 2007 - 20:59 ET by ChumlyI really don't like the site. I like the format though. I found it after hearing one of the bloggers on a radio program. I couldn't believe what he was saying.
I am just very pissed off about what direction this administration has taken our country. I have always thought we could do better than this. After witnessing the attitudes of the ones who elected this
administration (most of the people on this blog)...I now have my
doubts.
You guys do realize that our President now has an approval rating in the low 30s. Lowest of any President in over half a century. We should not have elected that guy. Well, I blame that on people like the ones on this blog. Makes me mad.
I found this site after googling the guy's name. I replied to someone's comment and was absolutely assaulted by very angry, unreasonable people. Nobody refuted what I said, just lots of venom. That caught me by surprise.
I see the same attitude on Fox "News" commentators like Bill O'Reilly and Hannity. I am guessing you guys get it from them.
If a person gets any of their information from Fox "News", they have no business blogging on a site like this. They are only regurgitating disinformation.
Just my opinion.
Not worth a tinker's dam, Chumpster
March 27, 2007 - 21:17 ET by RJI'm sorry, Chumpster, if you've been given the impression that anyone here cares that you're "pissed off" or thinks that your truly foolish "opinions" are worth a tinker's dam.
Chum...You voted for Presiden
March 27, 2007 - 21:23 ET by bigtimerChum...
You voted for President Bush!
Oh puhleeeeeze!
I've got beach-front property for sale for ya ......guess where.
LMAO!
Hi BT
March 27, 2007 - 21:33 ET by RJBT, the other day the Chumpster was whining to another poster that he was leaving and wouldn't be back. (I think he threw a few things and slammed the door, too)...but here he is.....and what a pile of arrogant horsesh*t drivel this guy tries to lay off as "fact"...straight from the DUmmie, MoveOn, etc, sites.....apparently, he thinks he's the first we've seen selling their "truth". ;^>
Evening RJ...He is quite amus
March 27, 2007 - 21:38 ET by bigtimerEvening RJ...
He is quite amusing at times... eh?
LMAO!
RJ - even more interesting "Chumly"
March 27, 2007 - 22:03 ET by SportPoliticsAccording to the available search engine , the first appearance of " Chumly" was on the 19th of this month, in a posted response by R the S, referring to "Chumly" the cartoon Walrus, with attendant linked pic, which of course since it's a cartoon, balboa commented upon it, declaring the head of Tennessee Tuxedo looked too large.
Strangely enough, the next day "Chumly" the lib posterchild appeared.
I see he's whined about 5 times that "people here insult and they learned it from O'Reilly and Hannity" , and has a total of 10 posts or so.
His first defended the polar bear al gore deciept pic, whereby he said initally " You're all wrong"... then babbled on...
Ok, so he's suspect as a weirdo appearing right after the "chumly" comment by RtheS, but getting off on the correct foot, his first babble was " everyone here is wrong".
Now, he want's everyone to play nice, but of course he never has.
I am thoroughly sick of whining insulting liberal fagbags that claim to be correct and intellectual, but all they do is insult "everyone here", and then claim noone has debated or brought any points, like EVERY other post they make.
I'd love to meet one in real life, but I never do. I have no idea where they really are, but suspect their big fat mouth doesn't work so well in person.
Geez, Sporty,I had a kind of,
March 27, 2007 - 22:10 ET by BlondeGeez, Sporty,
I had a kind of, um, trying day.
But then I read one of your posts....you just string them together...and I feel 1000% better.
I'm out now. Thanks for the cheer!
Sport, Chumpster's shtick is pretty obvious
March 27, 2007 - 22:23 ET by RJYeah, Sport, his shtick is denial. First the polar bears, and Sean Penn today. (I haven't paid enough attention to know if he also did it with other threads) Like a child his primary argument is "no." Regardless of the facts anyone brings, it's "no." It's childish, dishonest, a waste of time, and the reason I won't debate him. Ridicule is the only response he deserves.
Where do you guys get this st
March 27, 2007 - 22:58 ET by ChumlyWhere do you guys get this stuff?? I think I said I probably would not be back. I never said never. Really, come on guys, I never said that, and I never said I voted for Bush.
I am starting to understand your sense of reality. You guys can't even understand plain English.
And, I'll say it again... the hostility and name calling really work against you. You sound childish when you reply to someones comments with inane name calling and not substantive arguments. In public, it would be very embarrassing.
Chumpley's classic elastic positioning
March 28, 2007 - 07:46 ET by RJ"I think I said I would probably not be back." Haha, that's hilarious, Chumpley. It's the classic elaaastic positioning of a leftist. ;^>
Hey, no one here is denying your right to practice your twin shticks. The first would be a constant whining about the site and the derisive treatement you get (but you never, never insult, right?). The second would be simplistic denial, a childlike "no-no-no!" to whatever arguments or facts are presented.
Chumpster, you're childish, dishonest, a waste of time. Ridicule is the only response you deserve, but it's not surprising that a leftist like you keeps whining that expressing honest opinion is "fascism." In reality, it's you guys who want to shut down dissent; i.e. colleges, the GW debate, etc, etc.
What??!! I did??? Where d
March 27, 2007 - 22:52 ET by ChumlyWhat??!! I did??? Where did I say that??
I most certainly did not vote for the slime.
Chumly you ignorant lib
March 27, 2007 - 21:40 ET by SportPoliticsChumly you ignorant lib, the congress has an even lower approval rating. How does that figure into your BDS insanity there filthy ?
BTW- No more whining about insults, since you just levelled at least 3 at the entire site, you putrid hypocritical moronic retard.
If you were even halfway serious, you would have stayed above the supposed "assault" that occurred on a page unknown.
No matter, you're a dung muncher, and it tastes good to you, confirms your opinion, dudn't it doughboy...proves that theory of yours, like right now. Golly, you are a genius.
Now, what the does the lower congressional approval rating mean to you,moron ?
Ahh, heck, nevermind. I've seen a thousand like you. Your total contribution will be a big fat ZERO.
Later never let's hope.
So tell me Sport----
March 27, 2007 - 23:07 ET by misterbillSo tell me Sport----how do you really feel about Chumpchange??? LOL
Where ’s the coward that would not dare to fight for such a land?
Sir Walter Scott
I'm still waiting...
March 28, 2007 - 11:18 ET by ChumlyI'm still waiting... Waiting for a substantive argument against anything that I said or even what Penn said. Instead, you all keep proving me right by replying with negative comments and insults.
What I have learned from my short time on this blog:
When a person can't refute a claim, or just can't come up with a substantive thing to say, they hurl insults. The more forceful the insult, the more influence the person gains from his peers. The insult is intended to take the place of the weight of your argument.
Out of over 100 posts to this topic, I have yet to see anything but piss and vinegar. I'll say it again (and I just know you will prove me right with any replies to this post), If you had any solid argument to offer, you would do so instead of hurling insults (or, more likely, in addition to hurling insults).
And Sporty, about your contribution?...You are just trying to do the same as all the rest, quash any opposition to your ideals.
From American Heritage Dictionary:
Fascism:
"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a
dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the
opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of
belligerent nationalism and racism".
I have seen most of that definition on this blog, including biggotry. The dictionary makes my case. What troubles me is that I also see some of this definition coming from far right people like Ken Melman (who I have heard is gay, BTW) and other people in the RNC.
Go ahead, make my case for me again. Some of you are laughably predictable.
I do have hope though. I realize that your extremist attitudes are in the minority in this country. The people who still support the President number somewhere around one third of our population, and I would venture to guess that most of you here represent about a third of that population.
BTW, I did not hurl any insults until after I was besieged by a lot of you. You brought me down to this level. I am the worse for it, I'll admit.
Try stamping your foot and pouting, Chumpley
March 28, 2007 - 12:05 ET by RJ"I'm still waiting..." Haha. The image of you sitting crossly at your keyboard is hilarious. Maybe, Chumpley, if you stamp your foot and pout, someone will pay attention to you. ;^>
Sorry, Tar Baby
March 27, 2007 - 18:34 ET by RJI'm sorry, Chumpster, if I've given you the false impression that anything you say is to be taken seriously.
T T T Tennessee Tuxedo
March 27, 2007 - 17:22 ET by Carl KolchakChas, the irony about whay you said is that throwing someone in jail for what they said IS fascism. I see a lot of that attitude on this blog
And what communism doesn't deport anyone? A devestating enemy to one's own country would be one who persucutes political dissenters. Bush is not persecuting political dissenters in this country. He does not control the media, he does advocate using violence against those who don't share his political views. Earlier this year the Democrats took over the House and Senate. This was done peacefully. Noone tried to stop them from doing this. In 1995 when the Republicans took over the House and Senate it was done peacefully. That's how we do things in this country. Our leaders do not round of political dissenters and have them put in political prisons or deported.
Here is a good link about communist deportation.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/depo.html
"T T T Tennessee Tuxedo"
I think this "dude"
March 26, 2007 - 10:47 ET by Airforce_5_OI think this "dude" is still "totally wasted man". When was the last time Sean has been capable of rational thought.
Still waiting........
Airforce
March 26, 2007 - 11:08 ET by misterbillPenn has "rationed" thought, not rational, as is obvious by his rants. He really should wait for his ration before he speaks!
Sean babe, please spend a bit
March 26, 2007 - 12:49 ET by rbosqueSean babe, please spend a bit of money, say, $20. and buy a new brain before you open your noise hole. The one under your nose.
I think Sean Penn and Bill Ma
March 26, 2007 - 14:57 ET by sembyI think Sean Penn and Bill Maher are lovers!
That could be reason for their hatred.
throw him in the sea
March 26, 2007 - 17:45 ET by yehezqelthe fact that Penn attacked President Bush's two daughters; ......... a millstone, anchor,
or anything heavy enough to sink to the bottom of the sea......this, should be tied around Sean Penn's feet and hands, and with his calculating ways, his arrogance as well, and then
he will be better off at the bottom of the sea....
thoughts of death
March 27, 2007 - 01:52 ET by BlameTheMediaThere was some controversy about when some liberal log wished ill of a conservative that had cancer, then Elizabeth Edwards came out and a conservative on this blog stated that no one here ever wishes anyone dead, or something like that. Well, this blog has a lot of that.
Just saying.
No matter how wacky his speech, he has the right to do it. Wanting to take that away from him only makes his point about bush and being an enemy of the constitution (or whatever it was). "You're with us, or you're against us." See, that black and white statement speaks to people who can't see gray.
Free speech only if we agree? That's constitutional.
Btm...WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU E
March 27, 2007 - 02:03 ET by bigtimerBtm...
WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO COMPARE THIS BLOG WITH THE RADICAL LIKES OF YOU AND YOUR ILK FOR.
nOBODY WISHED HIM DEAD IN ONE SINGLE POST THAT i SAW.
gET REAL.
YOU BLIND FOOLISH TROLL.