Geraldo Blames Rise of Hugo Chavez On Anti-Illegal Immigrant 'GOP Extremists'

Photo of Geoffrey Dickens.

On his official Web site Fox News' Geraldo Rivera, yet again, went on a pro-illegal immigrant, anti-GOP tear. In an article entitled "GOP Immigration Extremists," Rivera declared: "The GOP was hijacked by extremists," claimed, "various hate groups have declared common cause with the Minutemen," and opined that anti-illegal immigrant Republicans, "fueled the rise of radicals like Venenzuela's Hugo Chavez."

The following is the full March 15th dated rant as it appeared on the Horizons section of Geraldo.com:

Until the last election cycle, Republicans had a reasonable chance of becoming the permanent majority party in this country. But in the lead up to the November 2006 elections, the GOP was hijacked by extremists on the immigration issue.

Led by candidates like Arizona's J.D. Hayworth, the party essentially adopted the position of the Minutemen and similar radical groups, which promulgated a wildly exaggerated portrayal of a tidal wave of brown people overwhelming our southern border, running loose to rape, steal and murder on the streets of our cities. It is no accident that various hate groups have declared common cause with the Minutemen. Similarly, it is no accident that these various activist anti-immigration groups scarcely mention our long, undefended border with Canada.

By adopting a position at odds with the President and Republican Senate moderates like Arlen Spector, the GOP insulted Hispanic Americans, fueled the rise of radicals like Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, and led the way to their resounding November defeat.

Granted that the war in Iraq was the single most galvanizing issue for most Americans; for Hispanics, it was immigration and they made Republicans pay for the insults.

Item: In the elections of 2004, 44% of Hispanics voted for the GOP. In 2006, that number was down to 27%. The effect of that seismic shift among the nation's fastest growing ethnic group of perhaps two million votes was the utter defeat of radical candidates like Hayworth.

Why do you think that the majority of Cuban Americans, alone among U.S. Latinos is solidly Republican while the majority of every other Hispanic group is Democratic? Like Dominicans, Mexicans, Venezuelans and every other sub-division within the Latino community, Cubans tend to be more socially conservative than Anglos on issues of faith like abortion. All are similarly entrepreneurial, hard working and traditional as opposed to secular and progressive.

Isn't it reasonable to assume that the way Cubans are treated when they enter this country without proper documentation, as opposed to how their immigrant colleagues from other national backgrounds are treated is one important factor in their choice of political affiliation?

All an illegal Cuban refugee has to do to gain rights in this country is touch U.S. soil. Once they achieve that milestone, there is a presumption that they are political refugees with status. If a Dominican or a Mexican, (or a Haitian for that matter), were to swim onto that same stretch of Florida beach, they'd be locked up, and restrained until either deportation proceedings or voluntary deportation.

The President's trip to Latin America should have been an eye-opener to those advocating the construction of a mighty wall to keep Latin America out. We build a wall or even just talk about it and we fuel the radical movement led by Hugo Chavez and his left-wing comrades who say, 'see the gringos hate us'.

Wall building exacerbates, rather than regulates the flow of illegals. Is there a person reading this who really believes that a man with a hungry family who has marched across the length and breath of Mexico and miles of parched Arizona desert because his family back home is hungry will be seriously impeded by a wall? What are we going to do if they climb over or tunnel under it, shoot them?

Aren't we turning our backs on the continent that since the Monroe Doctrine we have sought to hold close.

And with a U.S. unemployment rate of fewer than 4.5%, where would we find the workers to replace the eleven or twelve million undocumented workers who are here? The current jingoistic anti-immigrant hysteria is bad politics, bad business, smacks of racism and blissfully ignores recent history.

Until the mid-19th Century most of the American Southwest was Mexico. Since the conquest of Texas in 1836, and the treaty that forced Mexico in 1848 to cede the Southwest and then added insult to injury by imposing the Gadsden, Arizona purchase of 1853, generations of Mexican citizens have been allowed back into their former territory whenever we needed their sweat and toil. We have spent a Century and a half winking and nodding at undocumented seasonal workers who risk everything to cross illegally just to get a job to feed their families.

Isn't it reasonable to think that residents of Mexico might hold some affection and nostalgia for their lost North America Empire, especially if part of their family still resides on this side of the modern line? Haven't Native Americans in recent decades experienced some small amount of belated justice? Where are the casinos and oil leases for the Mexicans forcibly excluded from their historic lands along with the Apache, Navajo, Sioux and Seminole?

Jews didn't forget Jerusalem after a forced exclusion of 2,000 years. Is it so breath-taking that the collective Mexican consciousness remembers back just 154 years to the time when towns from Santa Fe to Los Angeles to San Francisco were theirs?

However it happened, all agree that modern boundaries are now firmly and forever established. Every reasonable commentator understands that. But history is relevant when it comes to how we treat these 'visitors'.

All most of the undocumented want is a fair shake and a chance to work hard and realize what we proudly call the 'American Dream'. Give them the chance to regularize and legitimatize their status and watch, as they become another beautiful component of the national mosaic. Maybe even Republicans.

—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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What part of "ILLEGAL&

What part of "ILLEGAL" don't these people understand? Oh wait, liberals get away with murder *cough*TedKennedy*cough* so it's obviously not a word in their dictionary.

Dyne...Illegal is good! Legal

Dyne...

Illegal is good! Legal is bad!

Liberals >>>> Silly people, and Geraldo is a liberal.

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

geraldo said it well

Geraldo Rivera was spot on about our GOP. He nailed it; and we have the same knee-jerk absolutists still denying it; our Novemeber election was too deadly to us to ignore. But you ignore it all the more when a liberal has told it straight.

You muted me here earlier, merely for telling the truth. Geraldo says it and I agree, though I'm no liberal. Dick Morris said the same thing on O'Reilly, we've alienated AMERICAN hispanics and Mexican American voters for the next 100 years. If youz guys can refute them --DO SO !

Knee-Jerk Absolutionists...

Knee-Jerk Absolutionists...hmmmm Hey Tumbler, can we talk about Protestantism? Oh sorry, I forgot, you're a Knee-Jerk Absolutionist that only recognizes the Catholic Church and the Pope. Hahahahahahaha!!

Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!

reading comprehension, GAT

Read, My Lad; don't invent. I said absolutists, Not absolutionists. (Withdraw head from crack where sun never shines, Kid.)

As for my faith; I believe because Jesus Christ is God; He founded the Catholic Church. Knee-jerks are all on the part of anti-Catholic sectarians who have no faith in Him. They believe what was palmed off on them as godly. They learned from mere men. "Recognizing" means nothing. Satan recognizes Christ.

bumbler...

bumbler...I gladly accept your correction on my failure to read and retain most specifically what you posted and in fact thank you for the reminder to not neglect critical details...you have been of service to me...

But now to the more weighty matter at hand...absolutist...absolutionists...either way I understood the idea...knee-jerk absolutist...which was demonstrated by you in your response about the Catholic church verses other faiths who hold to orthodox Christian doctrine...so in the end...you remain subject to your own complaints...are you still here Tumbler? Oh yeah, I remember,  you're Catholic and like punishment for your sins...hahahahahahahahaha!

Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!

hahahahahaha! enough !

That's bad; Guy. Pathetic, in fact.

"demonstrated by you in your response about the Catholic church verses other faiths who hold to orthodox Christian doctrine...so in the end..

So, spell that VERSUS, Pal. I was going batty looking for a verse in the Bible.

No-- unfortunately you're even wrong about anything "orthodox" in much of that Christian doctrine you uphold. Orthodoxy is knowledge of what is indisputable. Only the Catholic Church is totally safe from error. --Many hard-trying sects calling themselves Christian are not in possession of the whole truth of the apostles. And, though you laugh at the Pope, he represents the apostles, particularly Peter. If you stray from their teachings, (and you have) you are adrift in heresy, not orthodoxy.

Please let's not divert this thread any longer. If you MUST answer, send it by PM. Do it for the other participants.

dumbler....

While you are on your Bible verse hunt (oops are you allowed to do that? Did the Pope say it was okay now? Cuz in them old days he said it was verbotten) I will post the last word and believe you are so sincere and honest in your expressed wish to keep things in PM that your response to me will be in PM, but it remains to be seen if you hold to your own dogma, I'm not holding my breath.

So publicly I will get the last word with the assumption of course that you wouldn't dare post a response but will keep it in PM as you preached to me about (and if you are wondering why I am not using PM it is because of course, I am not Catholic but Protestant and far less righteous than you...hahahahahaha).

You're closer to death than most Tumbler and do us a favor, hurry up and cross over because there are several idiots in line waiting to take your place. I look forward to your PM...you know...the method you preached to me about but I doubt you will abide by yourself in response to this....hahahahahahahahaha!

P.S. Since you indicated that you like the Liberal Practice of Grammar and Spelling Nazi practices....(I told you before you think like a liberal and this demonstrates it once again) it is VERSES not VERSUS and though indeed playing Spelling Nazi is a violation of one of the most common rules of Message Board Posting observed even by many LIBERALS the virus of LIBERAL mentality you are infected with is so severe that it appears you are diseased with full-blown the SNV (Spelling Nazi Virus) I willingly rolled in the gutter where you are long enough to help you along the way with petty concerns such as spelling issues. Next Please! (And to the showers to clean of this dung).

Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!

Tumbler...Here is a response

Tumbler...

Here is a response to your 'Geraldo spot on' post ( I must be crazy, but I'm going to try with him one more time).

You keep bringing up this issue of alienating hispanic and/or mexican voters so I want to tell you a little story, you can comment on it as you please. I live in NC. We have been trying very hard to get our Dept of Motor Vehicles to STOP issuing licenses to illegals, but with the Dems in charge it has become a very frustrating task. Last year an outside auditing firm found that over 22,000 licenses had been issued to illegals in NC. Shortly after that a DMV employee started refusing to give a license to people that could not provide proper ID (the illegals). While her boss was chewing her out for following the law, he made this comment to her. "You will issue all of them a license regardless of proof or non-proof of their status, then you will make sure you sign them up to vote". If she did not follow his instructions she would lose her job.

Now answer me this Tumbler... In a state that is run by Democrats, why do you think her boss was so eager to register illegals to vote?

Personally, I don't care how any group of legal citizens vote. If conservatives will choose good candidates I pray that any and all ethinic groups would vote R.

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

dear clear thought

I know of no illegal aliens registering to vote anywhere. Period. Asking me something of that sort is to assume I know, a simple mistake.

At least I must thank you for not attacking my church. Guy and Arthur assailed the Catholic Church on account of not knowing any other way to counter my legitimate arguments (nor Geraldo's I guess) about illegal immigrants. (So did Thomas, OK ? I call them the unholy three.) )

It's clear nobody here believes the GOP has ignored, taken for granted, and finally alienated the entire Spanish-speaking segment of our voters. But that's the case altogether. What do you want me to do? Deny the obvious? Dick Morris, I repeat, said exactly the same. Go ahead, hate him too. But thank you for not hating the Pope and the Catholic faith.

Tumbler...You are being your

Tumbler...

You are being your dishonest self again and to tell you the truth, you really piss me off. I am telling you it happened in my state and you act as if it's impossible just because you have not seen it.

If you have to....pretend I'm not lying to you and answer my question!

When it comes to the illegals issue I could care less what religion you are. All that matters to me is that you beleive in GOD, end of that story! Now answer my original question.

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

I'm very honest

I know of no illegal aliens registering to vote anywhere. Period. Asking me something of that sort is to assume I know, a simple mistake. Do YOU know of it? You can't convince me. You have no proof.

Ask somebody else.

tumbs

As I recall, there was a Democrat during the 2004 election in California that was telling illegal immigrants to register to vote whether they were legal or not. Can't remember the ladys' name, but I do remember it happening. She was standing at a rally and telling the people that it didn't matter if they were illegal or not, but to register to vote anyway. Now I'm not saying anyone DID do this but I would bet it did happen.

stumbler

tumbler_1007 ADD

You are a LIAR.

Time for confession for you.

Here you go, illegal apologis

Here you go, illegal apologist.

ClearThinker

"You will issue all of them a license regardless of proof or non-proof of their status, then you will make sure you sign them up to vote".

Please, please, please tell me that there is a federal law that this man violated. Then please tell me the employee reported him to the FBI in NC.

I have no facts but I believe many illegal voters were involved in the November elections.

"Geraldo Rivera was sp

"Geraldo Rivera was spot on about our GOP. He nailed it;"

The only thing he nailed was his hot wife. The other things are just Geraldo being his typical liberal, illegal-apologist self.

"we've alienated AMERICAN hispanics and Mexican American voters for the next 100 years. If youz guys can refute them --DO SO !"

Sure we have. We have rufuted your failry tale, on multiple occasions. To make further attempts would only be a waste of time.


Illegal Immigrants cause global warming. Build the wall to save the Earth. Don't we owe it to the children?

ckc is also a lost cause

No, ck, you "rufuted" nothing. EVER. See above post sent to clear thinker; it applies double to you, and I know nothing of anybodys hot wife. Youz guys are on a gross trip today. You can't debate in good faith. One of you knocks the Catholic Church; the next one makes salacious remarks about another man's wife. (Bunch of damn cretins.) --"Failry tale." Ugh.

I am posting this up front to make it easier to get to

"It is also clear that there is an active effort by the Mexican government to organize Mexicans living in the United States to demand political rights and to influence their activities towards furthering the political objectives of Mexico. This paternalistic and intrusive posture of the Mexican government goes beyond Mexicans living in the United States; Mexico also asserts that it represents Americans who renounced their Mexican citizenship when they became naturalized U.S. citizens, and they have encouraged persons born in the United States to Mexican parents to apply for Mexican nationality."

Here and now I am no longer excusing Mexico. It appears to be the amin culprit in our gradual loss of part of the USA. I do  not like to go back to the old saying, but "America, love it or leave it".

That includes Heraldo Ambiverant.

 An ugly American is one who does not support his country.

Exactly!!!  How can these Li

Exactly!!!  How can these Libs overlook so obvious a point? Unless they're either deliberately spreading lies, or they're complete idiots...

"Newsbusting" the Hartford Courant

It's both of the above.  Here's an example of a newspaper deliberately spreading lies....

The lies occured in a long front page article in a recent edition of the Hartford Courant (sister paper of the Washington Post.) 

Disguised as showing the public why immigrants are valuable in bolstering our work force (no one argues this), the article didn't mention "illegal" until the 14th paragraph.  The only use of the word came as a back-handed slap against "anti-immigrant activists"  who had illegals as their focus.

That's incorrect on two levels.  First, it falsely conveys the message that anyone who is anti-illegal immigrant is really anti-immigrant.   Second, the true "activists" are the groups who want to legitimize illegals, not those who want our laws properly enforced.

In addition to avoiding the word "illegal", the reporter repeatedly used the catchphrase used by illegal alien apologists and activists:  "international migration."   Of course, "anti-immigrant", combined with "international migration" are preferred by those who demand that our laws be disregarded. 

Like a good liberal, when I contacted him the reporter weakly defended hmself by claiming that I was taking him "out of context." 

Hartford Courant, you've been "Newsbusted!"

When "illegals" have children

When "illegals" have children or need medical care, who pays for that???
Who pays for the education of the "illegals"???

Why aren't these points mentioned in the same breath as "bolster the work force" or "cheap labor"?????

Ah yes Geraldo, he's like t

Ah yes Geraldo, he's like the looney uncle that everyone loves, and talks about.

BTW, has anyone ever seen him without that atrocious stash?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

No MM, because without the st

No MM, because without the stash it shows his upper lip looks like a Chimpanzees.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

cue tumbler swooping in to

cue tumbler swooping in to pounce on the nazi racist bassndude! :-O

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM...You had to go and mentio

MM...

You had to go and mention his name. I'm hoping he took our advice and went to Mexico to help his poor brethren.

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

I wonder if tumbler would b

I wonder if tumbler would be willing to admit that a large number of Mexicans wouldn't care to immigrate to the U.S. The reason? They see how many in the Hispanic community are corrupted by rap-loving-baggypant-wearin-gangbangin youths. Why come here and subject your kids to such trash?

I have worked in many parts of Mexico and must say I have never met a more family oriented hard working group of people as a whole.  Of course I worked with technical people who seem to comprise the very small middle class in Mexico.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

He's in Paris

I think he said he was going to Paris.  Undoubtedly he wants to confront the Muslims, who, in his words, "Hardly know they've left Afghanistan, they're so bold." 

Displaying his usual logic, Tumbles says that's not racist, but to say the same thing about Mexicans would be racist.  ;^>

another mindless clear think

Yo; one more of the clueless remarks of a so-called clear thinker.

I have no brethren south of the border. Not one. Add to that CLEAR statement, you never gave me advice. If you had, I'd remember it. I'd never follow it, but I'd remember it; just as I remember to take out the trash.

oops, my bad! "There

oops, my bad!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Nazi racist??? Look, I can ta

Nazi racist??? Look, I can take being called one, but not both at the same time...you have to pick one. Only one.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

How about one word... Nazirac

How about one word... Naziracist?

Tumbler would be so proud of me ;-)

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

Thats ok, I can accept that :

Thats ok, I can accept that :-)

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Hehe, think about it guys.

Hehe, think about it guys. Hilter DID accomplish something. What word would we use if there had never been any "Nazis"?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Moderate, or liberal come to

Moderate, or liberal come to mind.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Isn't Geraldo himself illegal

Isn't Geraldo himself illegal? If not, then he should be.

I had hoped that the Clueless

I had hoped that the Clueless Patrol was more efficient at picking up the clueless amongst us than the Border Patrol was at picking up illegals, but the fact that Geraldo is still at-large and writing such dribble is proof that my hopes have been quashed.

Hugo Chavez is just the latest in a long-line of failing egomainiacs turned national leader, who when their failures as leaders places them at risk, they try to deflect blame for their failures on some other person or people.  In Chavez's case, his choice was America and George Bush (gee... how original).  And since the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the liberals and MSM played up and validated every whacked-out thing Chavez said and every claim he made... no matter of how insane it was.  It wasn't Republicans or the minutemen that built up Chavez, it was the Hate Bush crowd and their lackies in the MSM. 

Lastly, I noticed that Geraldo points out the decrease in Hispanics who voted for Republicans in 2006, supposedly because of the focus on illegal immigration issues, and states that this is a reason for Republicans to reverse course on "ille-gration" reform, but he fails to mention how many non-Hispanic voters opted not to vote for Republicans because they failed to enact any illegal immigration reforms.  I'm guessing that the later of these two groups is far larger, and I base this on the fact that since Hispanic voters are a relatively small minority of Republican voters, a small drop in their numbers would not have been enough to cause Republican losses.  The numbers needed to justify the election results would have to have been the result of the larger non-Hispanic voter base staying home.  Yet another "inconvenient truth" that guys like Geraldo don't want to deal with.

This is a perfect example of

This is a perfect example of liberal authorship. Paste degrading labels on people who have a reasonabe position different than yours (thise that would enforce the laws as written, the bastards), then use PC as a sword against any fact based argument.

The funny thing is that HR doesn't realize he lost the argument with any grounded american with a double negative: Ignore what is right and wrong for political purposes.

This article is just another way of saying we "owe" illegals special treatment and you are a racist if you even THINK otherwise. It's not your boarder/country, your laws are bigoted, any social costs are humanitarian and owed by you, you greedy, facist, ugly, selfish capitalist that we are certain made your money on the backs of someone oppressed. 

I am flattered that the whole world want to come to my country, to participate in a system that has proven to be the standard for all history. And I am certain many who come here are wonderful additions. But we have immigration laws, just like every other country. Either change the laws, or enforce them. Don't advance to reasonable americans to ignore the laws our representatives have passed  (But Mexico and other countries will always be allowed to enforce their immigration laws).

"Lastly, I noticed tha

"Lastly, I noticed that Geraldo points out the decrease in Hispanics who voted for Republicans in 2006, supposedly because of the focus on illegal immigration issues, and states that this is a reason for Republicans to reverse course on "ille-gration" reform, but he fails to mention how many non-Hispanic voters opted not to vote for Republicans because they failed to enact any illegal immigration reforms."

He also assumes Hispanics didn't vote for Republicans because of the "non-crackdown" on illegals, instead of the more likely reason that support dropped across the board, which was discontent with the Republican party in general. This helps explain why anti-illegal legislation passed easily in most every state where such legislation was introduced, including Arizona, where they ignored anti-illegal Republicans and instead voted for anti-illegal Democrats.

The Hispanic vote for Repubs dropped by 8 percent; the non-Hispanic vote dropped by 7 percent. If Hispanics were so alienated as in Tumbler's and Geraldo's wet dream, one would assume the difference would be greater than 1 percent. One might also assume that at least 1 percent of non-Hispanic voters turned against Repubs because they did nothing about illegal immigration. I'd rather have that 1 percent.


Illegal Immigrants cause global warming. Build the wall to save the Earth. Don't we owe it to the children?

Why is it that you assume it

Why is it that you assume it is anti-Mexican.  How about get rid of the Illegal Alien.

They are not just from Mexico; they are from all over central and south America.  They are from China and other countries all over the world.

Plus: This is a Security Issue.  That border is as porous as a sieve.  Secure it and kick the ILLEGAL ALIEN out of the country. I don't care what country they are from.

you can't dismiss the Mexico connection

I know there are other nationalities involved.

But we here in the southwest are mostly overburdened with Mexican illegal immigrants, Airforce.

The boys from Mexico have traditionally crossed over at will, going back many decades. They're the ones who get captured, deported, and two weeks later sneak back over the pourous border. They've reduced this to an art ! Americans think it's going away. But it never will. WORSE,

Americans see it as a plague; something intolerable and accursed. But it doesn't have to be. Mexicans actually love their own homeland, Mexico. A great majority of illegal workers would return home if any minimal incentive were provided them. They're HOMESICK here! They only come to earn enough for a family waiting for them in the interior of Mexico. If Americans realized this, a better solution might be worked out for both countries. They aren't going to take over our country, that's BS !

Instead we have daily published reports of "Minute Men" and armed men going up & down our southern border threatening an illegal's life and limb. Hatred and confrontation; never a sign of good will. What are they supposed to think?

Well Tumbler, if they are hom

Well Tumbler, if they are home sick.  They can carry themselves HOME.  I don't care that they are homesick.  Illegal is ILLEGAL.  The threat from the border is real.  Close it and kick them out.  Simple. Enforce the law. 

Tell you what Tumbler.  Go to the border and sneak across into Mexico and see what happens.  You will go to jail.

You are not telling me a thing.  I live in NC.  I worked the Tobacco fields as a young man to get money for clothes for me and my brothers.  I was poor coming up and worked my butt off to get where I am today.  Yes this is a land of opportunity but that is for the legal citizen to do the same.  I want the worlds brightest to come and partake, but do it legally. 

Done. Simple. LEGAL.

air force answer irrelevant

This will also reply to BW222. --Air Force; I know the exact meaning of illegal. I do NOT advocate open borders; although it IS open for us going southward into Mexico. You don't have to "sneak in." The reason, of course is that Americans don't set up a household or shop. They visit and return. So, please don't come back at me with these inane points of view. All I'm referring to is the constant harping by Americans who should know better; the hate speech not just against illegals but against their country. It is a basically supremacist rhetoric.

Whether or not it's accurate and true, the habits of our citizens are perceived as a racist attitude.

The Republican right is intent on firing broadsides at those Mexicans who reach this country out of desperation. You don't care. All you care about is sealing the border. But you hurt our cause more than you help it.

You ignore the fact that on our side lives a myriad of Spanish-speaking Americans, LEGAL and all voters-- who resent this hate speech and the vile attitudes you don't even try to disguise. They see this lack of good will and react with understandable outrage. You're throwing out the baby with this bathwater. They resent us (Republicans) so much that they turn to the Democrats as the better option.

This is the realistic sense of our party which Geraldo Rivera and Dick Morris have defined EXACTLY. No matter if you remain in denial, it's going to cut off your noses to spite your own face. Your blindness is going to continue costing us elections. Nobody wants to touch our party with a shovel! It's because of HATRED on the Right, for an entire ethnic group. Legal or illegal. They ALL have cause for resentment.

All anybody in this thread, from Geoffrey down to the lowest common denominator (R J ) all you do is hurl insults at Geraldo Rivera, disputing him as if he were scum. Guess what, Air, and BW222--? Geraldo will still be living in a plush Manhattan apartment and dining on filets; he just regards you as simpletons.

Welcome back, you demented old fool

Welcome back, you demented old fool....and I say that with the kindest of intentions.  ;^>

Did you have the chance to teach a few of your "bold Muslims" that they were no longer living in Afghanistan?    

welcome yourself, Bozo

I'm welcome but I haven't been gone.

I leave for Paris the last week of April, Doofus. Eat your stupid heart out.

Well pardon moi, o demented one

Well, pardon moi, o demented one.   Guess your social secretary sent the wrong travel dates.   Hard to get good help these days.....say, I know of a group of folks who are willing to do the work that real Americans won't do....but you have to be careful....I hear they can be pretty bold....  

Bumbler, try living illegally

Bumbler, try living illegally in Mexico and see how fast you go to jail and how long you stay there.

dear BW222 :

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Huh???

Wait a second (I'm hesitant to get involved in this debate, but I've had a few rum & OJs this afternoon, so I'm stupid-enough today). Do you mean by saying this that Mexico does NOT have stricter laws regarding illegal immigration to Mexico than we have regarding illegal immigration into the USA? I'm pretty sure you'll need to give me an actual cite for that allegation if so, because everything I've seen & heard says otherwise...BTW, if any Republicans are actually-interested, Dr. Ron Paul is every-bit as strong as Tancredo on this particular issue, as if the invisible candidate ever-mattered to anyone-else here but me...
JMR

Immigration - MSM shaped the stalemate

Immigration - MSM shaped the stalemate last year. That's my view. While the strong views of Tancredo and Sensenbrenner can clearly be viewed as a bit right of the majority view of most Americans, those views are not nearly as much to the right as the MSM's view is to the left of the majority consensus view - according to most all polls conducted over a long period of time. I might add - it would appear to me that the MSM's consensus view would sit rather close to, and possibly more to the left of Teddy Kennedy's view. 

Not offered up to debate, by the media, was what should have been commonly understood. Former President Bill Clinton spoke out strongly in favor of the Bush immigration reform platform. The Bush view is just left of the consensus view of the public's desire for meaninful refom. I might suggest that Lou Dobbs accurately reflects the majority view of voters on this one.

Also censored from the national debate (which is mostly conducted by the MSM) were the strong views of rather respected (by the left) Democrats in recent years. These include JFK, Clinton's Immigration Reform Commission chair, the late Rep. (D of TX) Barbara Jordan, and none other than Senator Harry Reid, D. of NV. Reid's 1993 immigration reform bill, was a staunch stab at meaningful immigration reform - both legal and illegal. Keeping these positions in the discussion during last years debate, would have resulted in meaningful legislation being passed.

According to the MSM's usual treatment of Democrat's; nothing in their past has to be revisited once they change their view 180 degrees, especially when the old view is not in lock step with the agenda the media wishes to push.

The debate that should have taken place last year in the media, and in the halls of congress, should have focused on a compromise between the left of center view of Bush/Clinton and the right of center view of Sensenbrenner.

We could have lived with that.

You know that boy hasn't been

You know that boy hasn't been right since Hulk Hogan slapped his a$$ around when he was investigating if Pro Wrestling was real. 

Wonder why the heck he even bothered.

In the 30's, the Germans

In the 30's, the Germans wanted "their" Sudetenland back--look what happened. To attribute the goals of ILLEGAL (please liberals look up defintion) immigrants to recovering "their" land is specious. The revanchism of the Southwest USA by Mexico is fraudulent. The rush at the border is not caused by the families of those from centuries ago. It is the press of an oppressed people living in a bad economy with no work, because of the poor government and the caste policies of Mexico.

It is the beginning of the end of the USA as we know it. Elected officials of Hispanic origin who were born in America, never had to take an oath of allegiance to support America. Many of them are helping in the illegal effort of the immigrants.

Viva Aztlan, we will take it back! I think that is the rallying cry of Mexico.

An ugly American is one who does not support his country.

Misterbill... Correct.When th

Misterbill... Correct.

When the US took over California, New Mexico and Arizona, the US soldiers who moved in did not begin to deport all of the citizens (Anglo-Indian-Hispanic etc) from the territory that they moved into.  Infact, many of the land owners of New Mexico, and the original vintbners of California were all original families that date back to the 1820's.

So this claim that those who currently live south of the border to the land north fo it is as specious as my claim to all of Mexican Sonora (THough I think I could run the place better than the current officeholders there- perhaps it is somethign they should think about.

This reminds me of the various land swaps of the 1800's.  THere were a few places on the 49th parallel that now seperates us from Canada.  Since I grew up in land that used to belong to Canada, does that mean I should now advocate giving it back even though we received it via a treaty?  How about Pig Island in the San Juan Staits?

Should Russians get ALaska back?

Geraldo, I mean Jerry Rivers

Geraldo, I mean Jerry Rivers, is the biggest phony on television. When Fox says he is coming on I run for the remote. They should GET RID of this idiot. Better yet, have him crawl back into Al Capone's vault and lock the door behind him.

dear No More Clintons

Yeah; on the whole you see the truth about Rivera. But where this illegal immigration matter is concerned, HE NAILED IT. Too late to "get rid of him."

BTW; My posts in this thread are being deleted one by one. I have to wonder if Geoffrey Dickens knows why, or if he's in fact deleting me.

I find that unfair. His blog argument is clear enough; Geraldo is just out of control; why this is madness !

But when someone dared to agree with Geraldo, was it permitted for him to post his points of view? Uncensored ? ? ? NewsBusters isn't bigoted to such an extent, and I'm not even a troll; why cut off my participation? Is Geoffrey afraid of competiton? No knee-jerk, no license to speak ? Is he an American blogger, or merely a self-serving junior narcissist ?

One thing for sure; I agree with YOU-- No More Clintons, EVER !

Where does Geraldo get this

Where does Geraldo get this stuff? I WISH the GOP had been taken over by these "extremists" he speaks of, instead I see republicans scattering about being liberals like they've been doing for years now. If Geraldo is right then surely we will all see my man Ron Paul get the GOP nomination. Right???

Democracy is not enough. If the culture dies, the country dies. - Pat Buchanan

"Where does Geraldo ge

"Where does Geraldo get this stuff? I WISH the GOP had been taken over by these "extremists" he speaks of, instead I see republicans scattering about being liberals like they've been doing for years now."

Exactly. As a result, voters are saying to themselves " If my choice is between 2 liberals, I may as well vote for the Democrat". The other voters are just staying home.


Illegal Immigrants cause global warming. Build the wall to save the Earth. Don't we owe it to the children?

How many hundreds of millions

How many hundreds of millions has Clinton pocketed from the UAE, more than anyone else? What's behind those relationships? We know he was a key player in Dubai (before his 'teammates' let him down). How much Saudi, Arab, Dubai... money has been thrown his way? And who is running in 08?

JDW

Wounded skier, beware of mistakes.

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

The 2006 election was lost

The 2006 election was lost for 2 primary reasons. 1: the Iraq War (and the fact the MSM said the word quagmire 100's of times) 2: The failure of the Bush administration and the GOP lead congress to follow through on several fronts pertaining to the illegal immigration problem.

I don't trust either side of the aisle on the 2nd issue anymore. If we "need" a few thousand more illegals, no problem cause those already here will have children.

I say build that fence and damn the criticism. Illegal means illegal. Just like your hand is a hand and not a foot.

please radiofitz34--take note

You state very confidently: "The 2006 election was lost for 2 primary reasons. 1: the Iraq War (and the fact the MSM said the word quagmire 100's of times) 2: The failure of the Bush administration and the GOP lead congress to follow through on several fronts pertaining to the illegal immigration problem."

But that's not an informed opinion. You should bear in mind that our majority in Congress was lost in various hard-fought states by very slim margins. If enough hispanics had seen fit to vote for the Gop candidates, just a FEW out of a hundred in each of those states;

We would have won them narrowly. You know the main reason those Mexican-American & hispanic voters went opposite their basic inclinations (conservative) our candidates could have overcome the "2 primary reasons" you enumerate falsely;

The true reasons were our Republican emphasis on the "EVILS" of aliens from Mexico; who came over to DESTROY our culture and take OVER the country. (Emphasis is on the dumb rhetoric used ad nauseam even HERE in NewsBusters blogs ! )

You know, the word gets around, radiofitz: Republicans are all racists! That was the conventional wisdom that led a large voting bloc to abandon us in November 2006. At least a sizeable number of conservative Spanish-speaking voters who believed the scuttlebutt from the Left. Don't close your eyes to the truth ! It was mostly OUR fault, for going way over the top in everyday hate speech and incendiary rhetoric.

tumbs

Well, tumbler they ARE invading our country and ARE ILLEGAL so.......and it's not hate to point out that one would like people to come here LEGALLY. Notice I didn't say Mexicans. I said people...that means all that are ILLEGAL are welcome long as they come here the LEGAL way. Noticed you had to include the word racist in your rant. Never fails.....sad.

get a life, frgggman

NOBODY is "invading our country." That's the kind of useless rhetoric that blinds the minds of so many decent Americans.

Notice that even if you DIDN'T say Mexicans, the insinuation you make is that "hordes of undesirables and freeloaders" are here without permission. That is derogatory bullsh!t. INVADING is a myth.

But in fact they're PEOPLE. Many are very fine people; so get off your high horse and realize how bigoted you sound. . . . SAD--

Where do you live tumbler?

Where do you live tumbler?

tumb

"Invade: To enter and overrun harmfully: To encroach upon: violate..." Webster's dictionary. See anything that doesn't apply to ILLEGAL aliens? I didn't think so. Truth is truth no matter how hard it is to accept. I don't blame them for coming here. LEGAL is the way. And yes, "hordes of undesirables and freeloaders" are here without permission." That is a fact!! YOU said it!! Deal with that. As has been said to you excessively, ILLEGAL immigrants are fine to come here LEGALLY..that's something you can't get through your thick skull. Btw, your continued use of the words bigot AND racist are misapplied and unwarranted. Easy to throw those words around when you have no idea the true definition. Educate thyself, bro.

invade: to enter and overrun harmfully

You defined invade; though it hardly applies to a few million aliens in a total population of 300 million.

Let me define (Merriam-Webster) the word BIGOT :

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

YES; and how definitely it applies to at least a few Anglo-Americans of this blogsite. They come here staunchly bigoted; minds made up. No one can budge them, and some are filled with an adamant hatred for Mexicans or the same ethnic origin from South America. They'll deny it; but they never back down to reason. It's a racial thing; look down into your heart, grffman.

HA! "Btw, your continued use of the words bigot AND racist are misapplied and unwarranted. Easy to throw those words around when you have no idea the true definition. Educate thyself, bro." Too bad you didn't educate thyself, --They aren't misapplied or unwarranted, are they?

It seems Tumbler is the true bigot here

Bigot: n. A person of strong conviction or prejudice, especially in matters of religion, race or politics, who is intolerant of those who differ with him.

(American Heritage Dictionary)

Now, could there be a better description of Tumbler, our very own loudmouth Bigot?   ;^>

Nicely done, RJ.Now, how abou

Nicely done, RJ.

Now, how about a pleasant thought...the Elite Eight?  Final Four? 

Maybe we could take it over to the Open Thread?

Never mind, I found it.I have

Never mind, I found it.

I have a fishing buddy who lives do the road from me here from Mexico.  His name is George.  He came here twenty years ago as a young man on a work visa.  Got a job and started the process of getting his citizenship.  He got it and met a nice girl here in the states.  Got married and worked his butt off.  He works for the county here in the schools and is the second man in charge of maintenance.  We are great friends and in a bout an hour I'm going to pick him up so we can fish a tournament in Durham starting at 0700.

 You want to know what chaps his hide.  ILLEGALS FROM BELOW THE BORDER.  He says he did the right way so why can't they.

Get the visa.  When it is done, go home or apply for another one. 

How is that Racist or bigoted.  Please tell me.

Well, it is obvious that &quo

Well, it is obvious that "George" must be Italian or Portugese or some other southern European descent (hence his dark complexion), since the only people against illegal immigration are white nazi klansmen. You might want to double-check your friend's ethnicity, AF. I bet you he's Italian, and you know all about Mussolini, right?

If "nobody" is inva

If "nobody" is invading our country then Mexicans are nobody and obviously should not ever be permitted to vote.  Whatever kind of people they are and regardles of wherever they might have been born, the mere fact they are forcing they way across our borders in spite of the law and over whatever barriers that may have been erected to prevent them, makes them by the very definition of the word, INVADERS. 

Only you, our resident bigot, racist, Roman Catholic chauvinist and homophobe, would have the cheek to deny this is an invasion.  I even think you would have found a way to excuse the Auto da Fe had it been contemporary.