Ted Koppel Tells Shocking Truth About Iraq and War on Terror (Updated w-videos)

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Former “Nightline” anchor Ted Koppel was one of Tim Russert’s guests on Sunday’s “Meet the Press.” As amazing as it might seem, he made some truly shocking and compelling statements about the Iraq war and the war on terror that virtually no Democrat or media member is willing to accept or report:

  • First, Koppel made it clear that America’s premature departure from Iraq would turn the entire Persian Gulf region into a battlefield between Sunnis and Shia, “something the United States cannot allow to happen
  • Second, he said the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are part of the war on terror that “has been going on for the past 24 years” starting when “the precursors of Hezbollah blew up the U.S. marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanonin 1983 
  • Finally, he stated that America’s departure from Iraq and Afghanistan, regardless of when it occurs, will not represent the end of this battle, but, instead, that it is just “going to be a different war” after that point. 

Here are the shocking excerpts in chronological order (MSN video available here with segment 1 at minute 14:10, segment 2 at minute 19:00, and segment 3 here. Update: Dan Riehl has all three quotes edited together in one video here):

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Koppel: I made a little note here of something that Ambassador Khalilzad said to you a moment ago. He said, “The region will not be stable until Iraq is stabilized.” It’s the one thing nobody talks about. Everyone is concerned about the United States being in the middle of a civil war inside Iraq. But they forget about the fact that if U.S. troops were to pull out of Iraq, that civil war could become a regional war between Sunnis and Shia. And the region, just in case anyone has forgotten, is the Persian Gulf, where we get most of our oil, and, I’ve talked about this before, natural gas. So, the idea of pulling out of there and letting the region, letting the national civil war expand into a regional civil war, something the United States cannot allow to happen.   

Amazing. For those interested, I wrote an article about this very subject in November. I must say I find it extraordinary that any major media figure is coming out so strongly and making such a declaration, especially on such a popular Sunday talk show.

Yet, the best was still to come, as a little later on in the discussion, Russert asked Koppel a very telling question:

Ted Koppel, you are tonight airing on the Discovery Channel a special called “Our Children’s Children’s War,” the “long war” as you call it repeatedly, that this war on terror is much more than just Iraq, and it’s going to go on for a long time.

Amazing. Did Tim Russert just accidentally admit that the war in Iraq is indeed a part of the war on terror? Shocking. Yet, not close to as shocking as Koppel’s answer:

It could go on, I mean, Gen. Abizaid with whom I spoke talked into terms of generations. And, if you think about two things, that’s not so hard to imagine. Number one, the Cold War after all, lasted 50 years. Uh, we didn’t know it when we began it. We didn’t know it, we didn’t know how long it was going to be when we were in the middle of it. But, it lasted half a century.

If you look back at the elements of the war against terrorism, that war was going on, and has been going on for the past 24 years. We just didn’t connect the dots. 24 years ago, the precursors of Hezbollah blew up the U.S. marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. That was 1983, 241 Americans killed. In the interim between then and now you had two attacks on the World Trade Center, you had the blowing up of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, you had the attempt to blow up the U.S.S. Cole, you had the bombing of the two U.S. embassies in East Africa. This war’s already been going on for 24 years; we were just a little bit slow to recognize it.   

Amazing. How many members of the Democrat Party or their media minions are willing to make such a claim? While you ponder that question, here was the third extraordinary statement by Koppel:

I see a lot of wishful thinking going on here in Washington right now. I mean when Congress talks about, first of all, setting these these milestones. And, the irony is if the Iraqis successfully meet the milestones, the implication is we stay. If they fail to meet the milestones we leave. That doesn’t make any sense at all. It ought to be the other way around. If they fail, we stay because they need us. If they succeed, we can start to pull out again.

So, I, I have this feeling that on the one hand, the Democrats are making a great deal of hay out of saying we have to get out of Iraq, and indeed we do at some point or another. But the notion that the war will be over when we pull out of Iraq, and even when we pull out of Afghanistan, you heard what Gen. Abizaid had to say, it’s not going to be over. It’s going to be a different war, but the war continues.

Wow. Shocking stuff that you won’t hear from most of the left, and virtually all of the media who are calling for troop withdrawals.

Bravo, Ted. Nicely done.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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Wow. That is something. I w

Wow. That is something. I would, however, posit that the war commenced just before Mr. Koppel became a household name. Just before he began the Day ___ of the Iran Hostage Crisis show that morphed into Nightline when Reagan took office.

Kimsch

Kimsch,

I agree with you. I think history will indeed declare the beginning of the WOT as being the day Americans were taken hostage in Iran. No question. However, Koppel's statements are shocking nonetheless.  ns

I will be shocked if any othe

I will be shocked if any other members of thr press or any Democrats follow Koppel's lead. It is refreashing to hear Koppel say these things. I wonder if he would/could have said this while still at ABC.

Nortonalec

Norton

Norton,

You raise an interesting point that I considered adding to the text: could Koppel have said this on "Nightline" or if he was still with ABC?

"Nightline," though biased, was a good program. And, Koppel was at one time one of the best in the business. I think that he might have been able to get away with this depending on the political tone of the day.

That said, in today's environment, I'm not sure if he could have done this type of a program on "Nightline," or would have made such a statement on "Meet the Press."  JMHO of course.  ns

Noel, I saw MTP this morning

Noel,
I saw MTP this morning, and was surprised when Russert seemed to go along with Koppel and the WOT. I belive that in the back of their heads, or at Members Only cocktail parties some of these people HAVE to know what is at stake here. Maybe Ted's comments will inject some new ideas and dialoge.

Nortonalec

by night...

By day they spew their liberal screed,
But by night recite a neo-con creed.
Never, never forget that liberalism is a disease, and the first step in combating a disease is escape from denial.
Pragmatism always prevails... even Winston was once a lib.

"Shocking" does n

"Shocking" does not even begin to describe Koppel's statements. "Explosive", and "Earth shattering" are closer to correctly describing Koppel's single-handed obliteration of the left's arguments against the GWOT. The media-elite bosses must be running in circles in their ivory towers over how to respond to Koppel's expose' on their "defeat America at all costs" propaganda machine. I guess Koppel, unlike the others in the MSM, really does want there to be a terror free America in the future for he and his children to live in.

I know I'm cynical, but I t

I know I'm cynical, but I think this has more to do with pragmatics than any about-face: the MSM knows that we are in far more danger if we should turn tail in Iraq. The point was to hype something for electionary(?) reasons, but now that the Dems are in place it is time to keep them there by becoming more realistic (despite any fantasies that poor N. Pelosi might be dreaming of) about terrorism. So now it is time to convince the people that we need to stay (cuz we do!), and steer the Dems (with or without Nancy) in the selfsame direction--but first public opinion must change so the Dems appear to follow their constituancy...

Mmm, Boy!

Don't be too hopeful.  remem

Don't be too hopeful.  remember that Koppel is a card-carrying Democrat.

NL...I find the whole situati

NL...

I find the whole situation rather sad that in this country we all have to be amazed that these talking heads are actually using their heads and stating facts and truths, just a few have done this and we are all going ...

OMG...I can't believe it...blah blah blah...

Very sad commentary for the liberal media....people like me are thinking... what have they got up their sleeves...when is the other shoe going drop....

I still don't know what to think, because like you, I posted earlier...these people are leftist that are doing this...so...time will tell.

Technically, America's War

Technically, America's War on Terror began in 1801. The Barbary Wars were our first encounter with Muslim terrorists. But I would bet that you would never hear that from any MSM source.

But essentially, America has been at war with militant Islam for about 206 years.

This is factually incorrect.

This is factually incorrect.  Technically, America's defence against the Islamic Jihad began in 1782 with the surrender of Cornwallis and subsequent Treaty of Paris. source:

"In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain. The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease. During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.
In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and
that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."
"

We've been under assault frrom these scum since the day we ceased to be British colonies if not before.

NL and GerogeT,Thanks both of

NL and GerogeT,

Thanks both of you!

Great info and memories, I have seen a couple great documentaries on both of these historical facts....I had forgot all about it.

So right you are!

Bet they teach this in school eh?

Not.

Not.

I'd love to comment but I'm

I'd love to comment but I'm too busy looking out the window watching for flying pigs.....

You getting those to?  Pigs

You getting those to?  Pigs shouldn't fly, its dangerous.

I think I'm going to need a

I think I'm going to need a stronger umbrella

Lee T.

U.S. Navy (ret.) / Hillsboro, Oregon

I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. Unless I buy something.

ns  Since I can't bring myse

ns  Since I can't bring myself to watch Russert anymore, I thank you for this information.  I can only say WOW!  Do you suppose this is the beginning of a more realistic (vs "get Bush no matter what") view being expressed in the MSM????  Last week, Brian Williams, and now Tim Russert having Ted Koppel on Meet the Press to express such thoughts!  I can hardly contain myself!  Is it really happening?

the problem is bigger than Bush

One by one we will begin to see Bush haters adjust their azimuth towards some other target, and if the libs think dems will be in the WH, with a dem congress, then they need to slowly tranfer into a win-position for the terror war. It will be spell-binding to watch how they position themselves in the election lead-up. On one hand they have to keep up the war-bashing in case the GOP wins, but on the other hand if they win the ticket after war-bashing up to the very end, then they will be wishing they were instead trying to take a scab off a bobcat's ass in a telephone booth! The nation, both left and right, will be on them sooooo hard to fix the war.

Pragmatism always prevails... even Winston was once a lib.

Bravo Ted!

Bravo Ted is exactly right!  Shows you what you can do when you're not employed by the network.  It also shows everyone that they all know this truth about the war going on. 

Ann Coulter wrote a great column listing in chronological order all the happenings from the radical islamists over the past few years.  It actually goes back to the beginning of Islam.  From the very first day of it.

Mr. Terry,

Any idea when Ann wrote that column?

Why we haven't heard much of

Why we haven't heard much of this - that the war in Iraq will not be over if we simply withdraw, that there is a great risk of a larger regional sectarian war if we leave before Iraq is stabilized, et cetera - is a pretty damning indictment of the press which clearly has tilted to the left over the past several years. Why won't Murtha, Pelosi, Reid et al. be required to answer these issues before they propose legislation forcing our withdrawal? By raising these concerns, Koppel deserves credit; even if they were presented to a small audience. Maybe Joy Behar or Rosie will discuss this on Monday's "View" (ahem)?

I do take exception to this statement by Koppel, however:

And the region, just in case anyone has forgotten, is the Persian Gulf, where we get most of our oil,

No, we (if by "we" he meant the US and not the west in general) purchase most of our foreign/imported oil from Canada, Mexico and Venezuela, or non-Middle East countries. We import about 6.4 million barrels a month from Persian Gulf countries out of a total of roughly 43 million barrels monthly (2006 figures).

US oil imports link

 

yep, there is a vast ignora

yep, there is a vast ignorance on where we get our oil. That said, the flow of oil out of the Middle East is still important in a macro-economic sense.

I saw this show this morning

I saw this show this morning and was totally blown away by Koppel...for me the most important part of some of the other truthful items he said, were the last two paragraphs, and I don't know if he was talking directly to the defeatist party but he spoke volumes, I wonder if they even listened....

One thing I know for sure...Soros and his moveon. crusade will not listen, they are determined for our defeat.

I am still flabbergasted at some of the lefties in the media lately, like Koppel and Williams, even Imus the other day with Schumer, something doesn't smell right, or else some people are really waking up to the facts as they are, not as they want them to be.

denial

Denial is just a phase. And being so, the libs cannot remain there forever.

LOL!Great point...Hence your

LOL!

Great point...

Hence your handle Pragmatic-Man eh?

Taken some of them long enough though!

Denial is just a phase. An

Denial is just a phase. And being so, the libs cannot remain there forever.

Unfortunately, this only applies to those Libs who are sane. For the loony ones, all hope is lost and we'll just have to deal with them appropriately when they become too dangerous to allow to roam free. A good example would be the ones fantasizing about assassinating Bush or those who are sending death threats to skeptical scientists or those who suggest that those who deny anthropogenic global warming should be put on trial, Nuremberg style. These are the ones for whom all hope has been lost. But it seems that Ted Koppel isn't one of them. That's the big shocker here.

____________________________________________________

"Reputation is what men and women think of us; character is what God and angels know of us." ~ Thomas Paine

Ah shucks...

The MSM is just setting up the White House for a Democrat. What are you guys smoking? Flying pork? (with alder or hickory?)

If we run from Iraq before th

If we run from Iraq before the goal is accomplished, wouldn't that be the very definition of wasting the lives of the soldiers who have been killed over there?

These changes in reporting are great to see, but given the history of liberals, it makes you wonder if they are trying to sucker us into some sort of trap with some other attack planned for the future.

I know it Nonanon,It is almos

I know it Nonanon,

It is almost spooky, like there must be a trap somewhere....waiting to be sprung.

LOL!

What goal would that be. Do

What goal would that be. Do you know any longer. Their lives have been wasted.  

Otto-matic,What do you trolls

Otto-matic,

What.... do you trolls get over-time on Sunday or something?

You guys are crawling all over the board just like termites....

I'm thinking we need to get an Exterminator in here....clean ya all out!

Once and for all.

That comment from a typically

That comment from a typically spoiled crybaby who refuses to defend his freedom, or to do anything other than whine to the government to feed, clothe, shelter, and change him. 
Because, of course, the goverment OWES Otto because Otto was born.

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Otto-sh_t, I'm currently on a

Otto-sh_t, I'm currently on active duty and IT IS not a waste to give my life so your life, your children and your friends' lives won't be wasted. Go ahead denigrate my fellow warriors and consider us all as wasted, soon you'll be fighting islamo-fascist in your front yard, if we all come home and hide behind Pelosi, Murtha, Kerry and your mommas skirts. Loser.   

Otto..you are not only a fool

Otto..you are not only a fool, but stupid to boot. There is no excuse for ignorance, but to let that ignorance turn to stupidity is absolutely disgraceful. 

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Otto the Troll

I disagree their lives were "wasted", but if you believe they were, it was to save your sorry ass, you spineless POS.

Don't worry too much about Ot

Don't worry too much about Otto. He hates the United States with a passion, and has even gone on record to say that France "volunteered" for both WWI and WWII while the United States was "dragged in kicking and screaming" (does that not sound like pure envy to you?).  Yet, Otto cannot provide evidence of those heroic campaigns France waged in Germany in 1914...nor can he tell me about that brave fall offensive they launched against the Germans in 1939 to help a beleagured Poland.

Point being, he is just another Socialist who is enraged that the United States has the world's largest and most advanced economy in the world AND can project its political and military power around the world at will, unlike the rotting EU.

 "HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Ok Im gonna ask the question,

Ok Im gonna ask the question, should we have resumed th war in Iraq? 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

SM Galbraith:  Why won't Mur

SM Galbraith:  Why won't Murtha, Pelosi, Reid et al. be required to answer these issues before they propose legislation forcing our withdrawal?

Because to the Dems, the war is not a foreign policy matter, nor even a war in its own right.   They used it as the lead domestic issue to rally their constituents behind in '06, and it won them control of the Congress.  They have distanced themselves from it even as our warriors continue to fight it, as evidenced by the fact that they never raise the issue of victory in Iraq.  It's Bush's War, they don't have any better idea on how to win it thah the White House, and they use it as a bumper-sticker item to weaken both Bush and the GOP.  That's why their latest bill --- fully fund the war, but withdraw troops by end of '08 --- makes sense to them.  Keep the war alive to weaken the Reps ove rthe next 20 months, then withdraw the troops before a possible Dem President takes over in '09.

They are shameless!

SM Galbraith:  I do take exception to this statement by Koppel, however: And the region, just in case anyone has forgotten, is the Persian Gulf, where we get most of our oil, No, we (if by "we" he meant the US and not the west in general) purchase most of our foreign/imported oil from Canada, Mexico and Venezuela, or non-Middle East countries. We import about 6.4 million barrels a month from Persian Gulf countries out of a total of roughly 43 million barrels monthly (2006 figures).

Great catch, SM - G!

...and only "retired&quo

...and only "retired" journalist Ted Koppel from the leftist drive-by-media saw it this way. Imagine that. If these leftist would just removed their blinders and earplugs they might hear and see the big picture.

Good job Ted, GWB might be vindicated if you unretire from broadcasting permanently. I'm dreaming, I know. Well, at least I know someone from the left is on our side. Maybe...

Is this for real???

A left-leaning journalist is admitting we're at war with terrorists in Iraq? He'll be summarily ignored and berated by his colleagues. And no Democrat is going to admit that we're fighting the enemy in Iraq until they can grab credit for it somehow.

Cunservatyve military medical guy

If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote!