Bill Maher: Our Troops Have a ‘Dysfunctional, Abusive Relationship’ With Bush

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HBO’s Bill Maher threw quite a Bush bash on the March 9 installment of “Real Time.”

Not only did he stock his panel exclusively with well-known critics of the Administration like Roseanne Barr, the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank, and former Special Assistant to the President David Kuo who attained notoriety by writing the book “Tempting Faith” after leaving the White House.

Maher also began the program after his opening monologue by interviewing a retired Army major general that had just written a scathing op-ed about America’s top officers published in the New York Times Tuesday. This made him the perfect guest to start such a hate-filled program (video available here courtesy of our friend Ms Underestimated).

In fact, it was quite clear why Major General Paul D. Eaton (Ret.) was present when Maher, after some brief niceties, began the interview:

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"I thank you for doing this show. I thank you for, for coming out and speaking, because I know when you’re a military man, probably the hardest thing to do is to speak out, uh, in a way that’s not positive about the people up above you in the chain of command."

Yes, but it sure is a great way to get yourself on programs like “Real Time.” As such, when Eaton said, “I’ve got real problems with this Administration,” and actually thanked God for “the arrival of a Democratic Congress” last November, Maher was set up perfectly to attack the object of his disaffection:

I feel like the troops have this dysfunctional, abusive relationship with George Bush. The more he mistreats them, the more they seem to like him. I mean, the only speeches he ever makes are in front of troops or toddlers – the only two groups that won’t boo him, and I’m not that sure about the toddlers. Uh, why do they still like George Bush?

Well, Bill, maybe it's because he's the commander-in-chief, and members of the military have respect for the office that folks like you just can't possibly understand.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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Eaton

Sadly this retired general has become a "hero" to the anti-war cabal.

I suspected the entire "interview" was carefully scripted and my suspicions were absolutely confirmed when, late in the interview, the general carefully used the words "Democratic Party", not Democrat Party.

He had apparently been told the "correct" use of the terminoloy. I watched the interview twice and could easily see this was scripted.

He is another "Murtha in waiting". He will be on all the MSM outlets and they will fawn over him to the point of barfing. The MSM would not have given him the time of day while he was in Iraq and this nut of a general cannot see this. Makes me question his intelligence.

Luke

Luke,

I got that feeling, too. This guy is just perfect for the anti-war crowd. It's almost like he's being groomed for it.

Yet, on the other hand, when Maher asked him about the Democrat options on the table, Eaton didn't take the bait, and, instead, stated that their current recommendations would be a disaster.

So, we can take his performance a number of ways, wouldn't you agree?  ns

Yes and No

No, he didn't rise to the bait on that question but he had all the talking points pretty well memorized.

Especially the one about when "all this started", meaning the issue with Walter Reed and the general saying it just started on Bush's watch. Fact is the Veterans Medical treatment has been an issue since WWII and Korea if not before. It was obvious this guy, as well as many generals, did not take kindly to Rumsfeld trimming a lot of "fat" from the military and making it a much trimmer fighting force.

To get a real feel about how the Democrats feel about Walter Reed check out Imus vs. Schumer. The transcript can be found over at Newsmax. I linked the interview to HotAir and hope they get audio or video.

This Maher "interview" was a classic though. Thanks for the catch.

I've been using the argument

I've been using the argument that our Vets are not happy with the VA system. We already have a "socialized medical care system" for our vets and they don't think it's the cats meow. Only a brain dead liberal could think that if we only take a barely working system and make it bigger will it work. This Walter Reed story is a good example of what Hillary's care would be like.

As a conservative who is no f

As a conservative who is no fan of Bill Maher, I venture to say the general may well be right. The Bush administration has worked to make Iraq a second Vietnam in terms of rules of engagement and things it has done to handcuff our troops (in terms of political correctness.

The same is true in spades for the Border Patrol. Bush has destroyed BP morale and has little respect among rank-and-file agents according to recent surveys.

What the hell do you expect w

What the hell do you expect when this country is populated by crybabies who equate a Gitmo detainee having a hangnail to torture and maltreatment at the hands of our troops?

Besides, as an AF officer (switching to the Reserves as we speak), I couldn't disagree more with the idea that there is a "dysfunctional/abusive" relationship with the troops.  When he was in Korea in 2005 for the APEC conference, he could have traveled straight to China, but instead, he stopped by at Osan AB for a brief visit.  I was in the audience and noted the significance of that.  I highly suspect I was not alone in that audience of soldiers, sailors, Airmen, and Marines.

As for the Border Patrol, you have a point...but again, what do you expect when not nearly enough pressure has been brought to bear on Congress and the President to get serious on border security?  Besides,BOTH sides are too damn scared to do anything that might make them look "racist" for there are too many people out there who just don't get it. 

The House did a decent job of getting serious about illegal immigration by shutting down some of the dumber ideas, but how were they rewarded?  By bringing in the Dems, who won't do one damn thing to enforce laws. 

Finally, why is it you keep having to qualify yourself by starting many of your posts with "I'm a conservative!"  or "As a conservative..."  Could it be that you really are not?  I won't wave a label for myself.  I'll just let my principles, and the writing I use to back those principles, speak for themselves. 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Part of my "problem&quot

Part of my "problem" is that I am far to the right of Bush. In fact, I don't consider Bush a true conservative, but rather a hodgepoge of things. He is conservative on moral issues like abortion, but as a "compassionate conservative," I think he's quite liberal on many social spending issues. I view Bush is a globalist, who is more interested in helping international corporations than national security.

The GOP House Members didn't lose because of their stand on border security but rather because the voters linked him to Bush. Pew Research Center did an exit poll and approximately 36% of the voters said they were voting against Bush even though his name didn't appear on the ballot. Bush has alienated a lot of the electorate, including "Reagan Democrats" who have been voting Republican since 1980 and helped elect Bush twice.

I am not sure Bush's "open border" policies don't come fromn his personal views rather than PC pressure.

Good English is bad?

It seems that Norm Crosby has taken over the world.....starting in the white house.

We have a political party engaged in using baby talk or a variation of the true name as an epithet to hit someone they don't like.

We have the first ESL president.... one who barely speaks english.....

Gen. Eaton did something no one in this administration has done -- served the soldiers.

We have people here decrying Eaton... but never served. In fact, there may be some, like the Prez & Prez of Vice who ran when asked to serve. Cheney ran 5 times to avoid serving his country.... And we have a CIC who cut and ran when he was ordered to see a Flight Surgeon....while barely showing up at all.... (at that was "during a time of war").

The idea that the GOP "supports the troops" has been proven a lie.... at Walter Reed and throughout the country.

It would have been nice to see some factual discussions here, or at least disagreements based on facts.....

Sadly, that has been shown not to be the case....

Note the repeated opportunities the GOP congress had to improve Veterans care....instead of cutting it....

Veterans care was the last thing on their minds....

If Roosevelt had treated the military like the Bush administration, we would have lost WWII and be speaking German.

To use a phrase posted here...many of the posts here make me "question his (their) intelligence."

I remember when the GOP was for law and order... not supporting criminal acts and treason..... that hasn't been the case for at least the last 6 years.... if not longer.

As to Bill Maher, it seems more accurate..... Bush appears in front of soldiers, AEI and the American Legion..... notice a theme?

As to becoming a "hero " to the anti-war cabal...... actually, he should be seen as one by ALL real americans....

Tarn - so many bumper sticker point. So little substance.

Tarn - so many bumper sticker point.  So little substance.

I'm confused how you managed to assemble them all together.  Juxtaposed they make no sense at all.

It's not even worth dealing with them.  Study up on the issues and when you have something substantive to post, maybe there will be a discussion with you.

ACA

...

Quoted from:  'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)

aca

Last night, we had a newbie with the same m.o.   He posted a long laundry list of lefty blog-thought on the environment, but was unable to back up any of his bumbler sticker assertions.  Next, was some "military" dude who did the same thing with Reagan.  Now this guy.  Coincidence?  Maybe.  Or maybe the newest page in their training manual.   ;^>

Night of the Barking Moonbats

RJ - I think you're on to something here . . . I don't believe in coincidences.

Bumper sticker points? Little substance?

Sadly, that seems to be all I see here from a lot of posters......

Kind of like the GOP platform.

Another Lying Troll

TV...

I find it interesting that you talk about those who serve in the military like you know them or have served yourself. Have you? Proof?

If find your post revoltingly repulsive. As a military spouse, I've seen parrots of Bush hatred and liberal talking points all before. Your utter disrespect for the office of the President when you use the military like some chess piece to be moved when you choose is quite telling. Something you accuse the administration of doing.

Let me ask you this...have you ever moved every 3 years like I have? Have you even seen friends off to war? Have you ever seen an active duty member (like my husband) work so hard to support the mission while people like you keep putting his CIC down (as well as him). Do you know what that feels like?

When this general "spoke out" on Mahar's show he did spouses like me and military members like my husband no favors. It is so like liberals like you to see this man as a "hero" for "all" Americans when he just plays in the hands of those seeking to obliterate the military or use it for their own ends.

As to the CIA...you know nothing. Do you know what a security clearance is? Do you? Did Plame have it? If so, then why was she simply an "analyst?" Why did others say that she didn't? Give me proof that an actual act of treason was commited.

As to your assertion that Pres. Bush and VP Cheney never served, give me a break. You sound like one of those pathetic, Vietnam War veterans who served with John Kerry and overlooked how HE decided to get out of the war. Why is it you use this liberal talking point instead of presenting actual facts of those who didn't serve? Why don't you mention that Clinton got the same kind of waivers during Vietnam that Cheney did? Or is it okay that Clinton got a waiver but since Cheney is a sitting VP, it's not?

If you're truly on here to educate yourself regarding media bias, I would say you haven't scratched the service when you duck and cover up for liberals. I've heard and seen all the same liberal talking points from trolls on this site. You are no different. The facts and discussion you seek are also nothing you bring to the table. How fair is it to put out innuendo and slander when you cannot even truthfully discuss what's going on in the media?

The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer.  Air Force Motto

emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.

Well Real "Slimy" T

.

Eaton

The left are doing their best IMO to try their best to get a surge going for demonstrations of any kind within our military against this war, have been for quite awhile, what I found absolutely ludicrous is when Eaton said the Republican Party is the worse thing that could happen to our military, not the exact full quote but close enough....

Btw...Seems to me everything I have heard on the msn as much and as little as they hate to report it other than Fox has been fair in this area, seems to me we are really making quite a bit of progress since this surge began, and the leftists are going completely beserk...the defeatist party for all to see.

Maher is a waste of space on this earth as far as I am concerned.

Thanks for the video...just wanted I wanted to hear first thing this morning...but hey, I chose to listen to it without anyone putting a gun to my head!

LOL!

Dead on, with that post bigti

Dead on, with that post bigtimer, Maher was just feeding the fish as usual. What better way for a disgruntled retired ex-general to supplement his income than to plug a book noone is buying on Real Slime with Bill Maher. 

Writing a book scathing the military, and the president is sure to get those books selling like hotcakes once the moonbats swoop them from the shelves. After the NYT plugs it for you, you can get a job with CNN, or MSNBC as a military analyst. 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

I mean, the only speeches h

I mean, the only speeches (Bush) ever makes are in front of troops or toddlers

You mean he hasn't made a non-military speech in public since his last State of the Union address?

The answer is socialism. But only if the question is:

"What's the fastest way to impoverish, enslave and destroy people?"

this is a plus for W

I'm almost sure this is good for the President; in the most positive way.

Here was this wacko, pontificating once more; with an obscenely disloyal general who boosts him on TV;

And nobody on that set seems to realize the fact that our loyal G.I.s in Iraq and Afghanistan see this and hear it. Maher and the turncoat do a Full Monty in the faces of American soldiers; cursing the Commander in Chief -- ! It has to infuriate a soldier of our country to observe how empty and punked Maher is; and how he calls them dysfunctional and abused. BUSH gains stature with them by contrast. Let's see what Maher gains from this latest blunder. How many more can the goon survive?

Jack Bauer?

Ahhh... the US adopts Canadians as heroes.....

But with 300 million people, the US doesn't have its own? (grin).

Normally, they would be the soldiers....but the group in charge of soldiers in the US doesn't like that.....

So now they are picking fictional characters....(Canadian citizens)...

...

...

What's your point Andromeda

What's your point Andromeda? Try writing it coherantly. Makes it so much easier for those of us trying to decipher it.

(By the way, Keifer Sutherland was born in London. Which, if you check my NB profile, is also my location.)

The answer is socialism. But only if the question is:

"What's the fastest way to impoverish, enslave and destroy people?"

Good for London....

But Donald was his father (born in New BrunswicK).... so are you claiming that only the Brits have claim to "Jack Bauer"....

And he was raised in Canada....

BTW

Congrats from the Tarn Vedran (grin).

Actually, the heroes we on th

Actually, the heroes we on the right adopt are named Paul R Smith (MOH Recipient for actions near Bagdhad International Airport 4 April 2003)  or Marine Cpl. Jason Dunham Killed when he saved his squadmates from a grenade by jumping onto it two years ago.

We do not need fictional heroes when real ones are ingored by the MSM on a daily basis.

Eaton and Maher abuse

Since these people look at themselves as gods to promote war with the American people, ensure America's defeat,  and create abuse and dissent, maybe it's time to line up a firing squad. 

Saying this is no worse than Cheney comments from Maher.

After the opening segment with Eaton, "Real Time" was assigned the ether.

You know you have a problem

You know you have a problem with quality control when you see Dana Milbank on any guest list.

Bill Maher is the one who is

Bill Maher is the one who is "dysfunctional and abusive."

Boy he's really spewing the venom left and right these days (er, I mean all over the place. He never spews venom to the left!). Maybe he's hoping for some sleepovers in the Lincoln Bedroom in 2009.

And Bill MAR, how does George Bush mistreat the troops? By keeping them in Iraq, I suppose. Funny how these ultra libs never have any specific examples. He just throws out, "Bush mistreats the troops." Nice.

And then saying Bush only speaks in front of those who won't boo him, HA HA HA! Like Maher's hero Sick Willie and Shrillary ever speak in front of anything other than an audience of blind supporters and adorers! President Bush has appeared on shows with liberal interviewers like Brian Williams and Bob Schieffer. When's the last time the Dragon Lady or the Great Stainmaker let Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or any conservative interview them? Hmmm, from 1992-2007 I think we have one example of His Slickness being interviewed by Chris Wallace (hardly a conservative anyway) on Fox News Sunday. And Billy boy sure showed he can handle a challenging question.

Mr. Maher, I still consider you one of the greatest Clinton suckholes of all time!

I caught most of the show l

I caught most of the show last night, but I kept flipping the channel every few minutes as I could barely stomach what I was hearing. I swear it was like someone gave MoveOn.org their own hour-long show on HBO. The only part that was even remotely interesting was when Roseanne and David Kuo looked like they were about to come to blows(she was accusing him of assisting Bush in stealing the 2000 election).

And speaking of which, I'd like to thank Roseanne Barr for her insightful commentary. I had no idea the Scooter Libby trial was really about "forged documents that got us into a bullsh-t war"(her exact words), that Cheney was the one responsible for the leak in spite of Armitage confessing he did it, or that Bush stole not one, but two elections.

Amazing what you can learn watching this program.

Yeah Roseanne Barr has been t

Yeah Roseanne Barr has been totally out of her mind for years now (54, to be exact). If not for Rosie O'Donnell being born ten years later, you'd think they could be twins.

I'll bet Bill MAR did one of his obnoxious laughs when she said her profanity and rubbish. His laughs are always in reaction to a loony lib putting down a Republican. Whether the line even contains any attempted humor or not is irrelevant. (If a conservative makes a point against a Democrat in a humorous way, Bill's reaction is to sarcastically say, "Oh please!").

Bill needs a short session wi

Bill needs a short session with Gunnery SGT. R. Lee Ermey!

Both him and the other Bill -

Both him and the other Bill -->  Bill "I loathe the military" Clinton. I'd like to see Ermey have a few weeks with the two Spotted Al's too (gore and franken).

add.....

Cheney ( 5 times the chicken) and Bush 43 (I'm afraid to see the flight surgeon...so get me out early)........

So, if by your logic, service

So, if by your logic, service is the hallmark, what do you say to the Liberal Democrats who are currently LACKING in the ranks?

If Bush is bad for not adequately serving according to your standards, what about the fact that the ranks are currently 85% conservative?  Doesn't that tar your side?

I would like to know if I'm

I would like to know if I'm the only one who thinks that Maher and Coulter have entered some wierd beer induced wager to see who can get the most foam-at-the-mouth negative responses from their opposing political factions; assuming that they are still friends since I have heard nothing to the contrary. Both seem to enjoy serving kool-aid to their followers and driving their opponents to profanity. I am having a hard time accepting that either believe half of what they say in public; if they do believe what they are saying, that's even more disturbing.

we all know about maher

Yeah, sure. Maher's an open book. Soft porn without the babes.

What's your problem with Cool Ann ? ? ?

Coulter occasionally will s

Coulter occasionally will say things that are simply mean spirited (e.g, the Jersey Girls comment). Those kind of comments are meant to get attention from the left and she knows it. Do these occasional comments equate to the hatred spewed by the far left? Not even close. Other than that, I read her columns and thinks she is a good satirical writer.

Yeah really, there's no compa

Yeah really, there's no comparison. Read any column or book by Ann Coulter. She's very creative and funny (unlike Maher) and makes excellent points and provides facts and details to substantiate her claims (also unline Maher).

So Cliterectomies are Creative and Funny????

Sounds bizarre to me.....

...considering she is usually factually challenged...... and almost never funny.

In fact, I consider all of her titles to be autobiographical.

Eaton may be sincere, or he m

Eaton may be sincere, or he may be one of those generals who felt he should've gotten a third star and didn't, and now is courting the favor of the Democratic Party in hopes that he can show up those who were promoted over him by securing an appointment to a lofty DoD job.

But the guy that get's me is Maher, who never spent a day in uniform, paints our military members as mindless and toddler-like, loyal despite being abused by the C-in-C.  He knows nothing about them individually or collectively, and  nothing about what motivates them to serve and to fight.  Worst of all, though, is he really doesn't care a hoot about them.   In fact, he has a history of disdain for them.

Eaton's Background

I suspect your belief that he's ticked he didn't get a 3rd star might be on target. Just a quick google check on him shows that in June 2001, he was nominated for his 2d star. At the time, he was the DCG for transformation, TRADOC, at Ft Lewis. In 2003-04, he was in Iraq as the chief trainer of the new Iraqi army. In between he served as the CG of the Infantry School/Center.

Clearly, the guy is no slouch. Being the CG of anything is a big deal. BUT, as far as I can tell (and I can be very wrong here) it doesn't appear he was in a combat division as a one star, and clearly not as a 2 star. I would venture to guess that for his contributions and excellent service over 32 years, he didn't get picked for a 3rd star and he was forced to retire. And I'll bet he's pissed off, and is lashing out. I think it's shameful.

Actually...

The history of disdain is Bush43's.

Bill Maher is increasing his

Bill Maher is increasing his attacks because he knows when Bush retires in 2008, his career is over. What would Bill Maher be if he couldn't attack G. Bush? Bill Maher will enter that celebrity forum like Jane Fonda in 2008; everybody will forget about him.

Actually, it would help if you were truthful...

Sadly, you forgot more than a year ago, Maher was actually supportive... saying it looks like the president might have been right.......

But that was just the Bush 43 mirage he was seeing....

We've missed you Baracus!  N

We've missed you Baracus! 

New name, some old Demoncrat Talking Points.

Just the facts ... Jack

So you are claiming this is a fact-free zone????

Men without chests do not und

Men without chests do not understand men with chests.

For the lefties who read this, google C.S. Lewis.

Those on the right know what I mean.

First Amendment of the Cons

First Amendment of the Constitution + Treason = Bill Maher ...it's the new math.

Without the liberal kook cons

Without the liberal kook conspiracy theory fringe, Maher wouldn't even have an audience, it's all about the ratings. Let's not forget this guy is an entertainer, and not to be taken seriously, he was a sucky actor, and an even worse comedianne.

Dont' think seriously for one moment this guy actually wants to see a Democrat President, or gross Democrat majority in the House, or Senate, this guy would be out of a job, and he knows it! 

Without conspiracy,  hate, and a Republican president this guy would be nothing.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

Actually Ben was talking about

The GOP Congress under DeLay.

And some people seem to forget he (Maher) was successful before Bush43 was named president.

Stupid and codependent?

So Kerry thinks our military is full of morons, and now Maher says they're a bunch of codependents?  Or they have Stockholm Syndrome?  Or Battered Wife Syndrome?  Good move, Maher.  You see how well it worked for Kerry to insult the troops.

The only moron in the militar

The only moron in the military was Kerry!

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

Nahhhhh

... try the CIC

Headline - "Bill Maher f

Headline - "Bill Maher found with head up Ass" - as reported by the American Bull Corporation, "A returning dysfunctional trooper, having had enough of Maher's off the cuff spoutings, decided that Mr. Maher should "eat his words" as he has been quoted. "I figured that since his words were such ^%&$, I figured that he should be able to eat what he said. The only way to prove him wrong was to show him the proper posture."

A side note to this report, it took approximately 6 hours for EMT's and police to get Mr. Maher extracted from his new "posture". Quoting an obviously teary eyed EMT, "It wasn't a difficult operation, we were laughing too hard to effectively remove his head from his, ah, y'know, ah, his nether regions. It seemed everytime we got ready to pull his head out, he tried to say something and his butt-cheeks would swell up and we'd start laughing again!"

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

the troops have this dysfun

the troops have this dysfunctional, abusive relationship with George Bush.

That's because the troops feel like they have a Commander in Chief who respects them and what they do. Look at pictures of the President around the military or veterans. Often you'll see tears in his eyes. You'll also see the troops reaching out to him in the handshake line. They're trying to get close. For those who think it's all staged - as I've said in the past, you can make a military guy go to one of these events, but you can't make them be happy about it. So, if they look happy, that's because they really are happy.

Try going to FreeRepublic.com and look for the Daily Dose. Then start looking for the pictures of Dubya with the military. They love him for a reason.

Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

Only

Because he is their boss......and they don't want to sold out by Field Marshall Karl ......

Just another general with his

Just another general with his government issued underwear in a knot because he was passed over for an undeserved promotion and is venting his spleen on Bush.  Yawn.

FastEd: LMAO!!!!

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Get Real time...

This particular episode was a new LOW for this GHOUL. nauseating. And watch how MAR goes into fits of rage when someone mentions that Reagan Won the cold war.
We know what Reagan did and how he (and Cap Weinberger) did it... here's what Maher conveniently forgets:
**Calling them what they were. An Evil Empire.
Telling Gorby: "you can't win this". "we will out spend you".
*Saturating W. Europe w/ Pershing II Cruise missles.
*Building and deploying the Trident sub fleet (despite the Dems trying to kill the program over & over).
And, basically seeing Detente for what it was... unacceptable. While seeing the Cold war as (oh my god) WINABLE!

I simply cannot watch this asshole Commie another minute.
-Sorry, I meant "This Asshole, fraudulent, smug, Commie with the face of a Sperm Whale".

Reagan Did??????

Gee, I never saw him on guard duty.....

and wasn't that after he "cut & ran" from Lebanon?

Lebanon?You mea

"Lebanon"?

You mean when the U.S. foolishly allowed its Marines to be part of a so-called U.N. Peace Keeping force?

While I admit that President Reagan should have seriously considered obliterating Syria at that point...

(I'm sure you agree, even to the point of tactical nukes to avoid extra US casualties)

It wasn't a U.S. operation, so I guess the President felt constrained.

The answer is socialism. But only if the question is:

"What's the fastest way to impoverish, enslave and destroy people?"

That general should be tried

That general should be tried for treason! Why doesn't he just give up his American citizenship and join the Iraqis? --He would do us far less harm that way.     ...Debra

Oh, and Does Bill Maher need a new hairdresser? Click Here to see... :o)

Debra

Truth hurts.... doesn't it.

The treason is pervasive in the Bush administration....

Karl Rove, Scooter, Cheney et al for selling out the CIA and destroying a cover company that had been years in the making.....

If we are truly at war, why are they (Rove/Cheney) still with secret clearances.... in truth... they are more like Aldrich Ames or Robert Hansen....

The Democrats have been at

The Democrats have been at war with CIA since at least the 1960's. Now you claim the administration is "treasonous" for revealing the name of a desk jockey?

Lee T.

U.S. Navy (ret.) / Hillsboro, Oregon

I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. Unless I buy something.

Lee...

So your argument is that is okay to violate secret clearances...., must have been a different Navy than my father was in....

Basically, what Rove and Scooter did was like Aldrich Ames and Robert Hansen......only worse...

Armitage said it was an accidental slip......which could be forgiven, but lose his secret clearances....and any chance to work in a position that would require one....

Rove and Scooter were out there like used car salesmen screaming to anyone they would meet....(and Rove still has a security clearance?) If he was in the military, he would already have been court-martialed and sent to Kansas.

As for Novak.... he admits that he was told that he shouldn't print that information by a CIA official..... then did......

As for desk jockey...... how do you know?

Her cover company Brewster Jennings was destroyed by the disclosure.... along with all the covers of anyone who worked there at ANY time...AND who ever met with ANYONE from the company. If you remember, the cover company was working on nuclear non-proliferation.... especially from the Soviet Union to Iran ...... But I guess you are saying that isn't important.

Personally, Rove and Scooter were worse than Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose combined........

And they should be in Leavenworth for the next 20 years...

TV,Wilson/Armitage/Fitzmas/Le

TV,

Wilson/Armitage/Fitzmas/LeftistMedia/SomeCIA/SomeState Dept./Leftist Pol's

All you need to know.

"different Navy than my father was in"

"different Navy than my father was in"

Would that be the same Navy you said your father was in when you were posting under the name hater?

Oops.

Nope

Try again......

--- you are so cold you have frozen your extremities...

BTW, I don't hate.. I may be dismayed and disgusted....but I don't hate.....

Dear "Tarn",

Treason is spelled: S-A-N-D-Y B-E-R-G-E-R.
Jot it down, look it up. Granted, it's probably buried by Google, but get back to us, please...

You Mean...

Ollie North.....and Fawn Hall....... how many shredders and forests did they go through destroying secret documents??????

Ollie North is a patriot.Some

Ollie North is a patriot.

Something you obviously aren't.

Troll.

Patriots serve their country with honor.....

North stopped being that when he started lying, gun-running, drug-running and destroyed thousands of classified documents.....

Or is that your definition of a patriot???

Another ungrateful spoiled li

Another ungrateful spoiled little brat of a troll, you sure are never going to grow up and amount to anything, least of all a man.

Oliver North is a scam. He de

Oliver North is a scam. He defended the ACLU --A video clip of it is used in a video that is on the ACLU's website to promote the ACLU. Care to see the video? http://www.debrajmsmith.com/acluuuc.html 

One of his people returned a call of mine and said he would get back to me about it, but never did. There was more to the call, someday I will write on it.

Oliver North needs to retract what he said, or sit down!

Debra...

North 100x the person you are, lady

You lie about North because you never had any discipline or reality in your pathetic life. When they come for the women, there'll be no one left to speak up, and I'll think of you -- oh my and a boo hoo!

BTW, can you also tell me where NASA staged the filming of the moon landing? Write about that, too. How about the grassy knoll shooter? Take a powder, lady.

Is a conservative any better

Is a conservative any better than a liberal if the he or she goes along with anything and everything that anyone who calls themselves a conservative does? or turns a blind eye to anything done wrong by such a person?

Remember, this site is about the ‘bias’ behavior of so much of the main stream media. If people on the conservative side of things are also bias, how are they any better than the main stream media?

I am a true conservative --and I will not blindly follow anyone or any group. Maybe honesty is a foreign word to you? God never needs a sinful means to achieve His end.

You call me a liar? Go see the video for yourself. It is linked right from the ACLU website and it has Oliver North video-taped defending the ACLU. –You can see him while hearing him. It is him defending the ACLU. Go see it for yourself, before you go off calling me a liar.  

Debra...

Oh hi Deb,You never stop do y

Oh hi Deb,

You never stop do you...how come you seem to only come out at night?

LMAO!

It is people like you on eith

It is people like you on either side of an issue who make others bias, bigtimer. If you have not noticed, I am immune.

I think I have noticed Debra,

I think I have noticed Debra,

You are the perfect definition of an ice queen as far as I am concerned, so of course you are immune...

Ice Queen? mmm... :o)Have a n

Ice Queen? mmm... :o)

Have a nice night, bigtimer.

Ohhh!

Ohhh! You crazy sci-fi fictional character, you are a scream.

PS I had forgotten about Fawn Hall. Thanks for the memory.

An ugly American is one who does not support his country.

If an ugly American....

Does not support his country,

Then why haven't the Real Americans bitch-slapped Rove and Scooter for selling out secret info......

A real American would be and could be one who is willing to telling the powerful when they are screwing up........

...AND NOT just be a sunshine patriot.

are you suggesting that?

are you suggesting that? I am a "sunshine" patriot. I believe I have done more for my country than you sir. I did my tour of duty in Korea.I always vote. I send what I can afford to veteran's organizations, until recently , I worked the polls. You are off in a wonderland of spydom that does not exist. Your name defines you. You are not a real person. I am in contact with my two Senators and my Representative on a regular basis. I assisted in the campaign for the Governor of Georgia and the Lt. Governor. I criticize them when I disagree and I email and praise them when I believe they are doing a good job. I suspect you only contribute(?) (your definition) by being a troll on conservative sites. I also believe that you are quite young and fancy yourself to be quite intelligent. Well, you may be, but you show a lack of knowledge with your shallow accusations. You seem to revel in the wrongdoing of those who are on the conservative side but you most likely give a pass to liberal wrongdoers. Further, and most important, you bore me. Go away and play with the other children. Play nice!

Oh, say hi to hater for me.

An ugly American is one who does not support his country.

He's a real doozy isn't he mi

He's a real doozy isn't he misterb...

Those trolls were out in full force today bless their souls...oops forget, they lack those.

Thank you for your service sir...my gratitude to all those that serve past and present is endless.

BT

I was going to do the "early to bed, early to rise" drill, but when I saw eeyore's  answer to me, I couldn't resist. By the way the twisting of the above poem is:

early to bed, earlyto rise,

And your girl goes out with other guys.

An ugly American is one who does not support his country.