Last week, the media got themselves into quite a lather over Ann Coulter making a joke about Democrat presidential candidate John Edwards. Do you think the same “delicate” press will be as close to offended by a major cable personality suggesting that Republicans "love Ronald Reagan in a way that’s just gay"?
On Friday’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher was discussing how various Republicans like to “dress up” in assorted costumes, and quickly moved into a diatribe about one of our nation's favorite presidents that would offend most Americans regardless of what side of the aisle they were on (video available here courtesy of our friend Ms Underestimated):
The Republican Party, besides Rudy Giuliani, Bush likes to dress up. He likes to be a cowboy, or Iceman from “Top Gun.” And they have something very gay, excuse me, going on with Ronald Reagan. I mean, they love Ronald Reagan in a way that’s just gay. I’m sorry. But, I think they want to put him on a stamp so that they can lick his backside.
Think this will make headlines tomorrow, or be discussed on the political talk shows on Sunday? Don’t hold your breath.
Yet, that wasn’t the only disgraceful comment by a Hollywoodan this segment, for comedienne Roseanne Barr also made a fool out of herself:
But I mean, Reagan was the beginning of the whole dream that they had, the right wing since you know, Roosevelt died, that they would take everything that working people have worked, you know, all this time for, and dismantle it. That’s why they liked Reagan because he’s a confederate…No, they worship him because he dismantled working rights for people. He helped make our country, like, only be about, uh, working poor, where you used to like actually be a working person like Dan and Roseanne Connor, and, like, have a house, and send your kids to college. Nobody of that, nobody who has those kind of jobs these days – of course, that don’t have those kinds of jobs here at all. They don’t even exist anymore. That whole class doesn’t even exist in this country anymore.
Amazing. Yet, the best was still to come, for when David Kuo suggested that Reagan wasn’t getting the credit he deserved for ending the Cold War, Maher pounced:
Hah. Come on…He played a part. That is so ridiculous. That infuriates me. To say this man came in in act five at the very end, and he won the Cold War. You know what? Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, everybody played a part in winning the Cold War.
Absolutely amazing. Harry Truman left office in 1953, and JFK in 1963. The Cold War ended in 1989, and Maher thinks they played a part 36 and 26 years before respectively.
As people like to say on the Internet, what a maroon.
What follows is a partial transcript of this segment.
Bill Maher: The Republican Party, besides Rudy Giuliani, Bush likes to dress up. He likes to be a cowboy, or Iceman from “Top Gun.” And they have something very gay, excuse me, going on with Ronald Reagan. I mean, they love Ronald Reagan in a way that’s just gay. I’m sorry. But, I think they want to put him on a stamp so that they can lick his backside. Well, seriously, I mean – am I right?
David Kuo: They call him the “Big Gipper.”
Roseanne Barr: But I mean, Reagan was the beginning of the whole dream that they had, the right wing since you know, Roosevelt died, that they would take everything that working people have worked, you know, all this time for, and dismantle it. That’s why they liked Reagan because he’s a confederate.
Maher: He’s just like them.
Barr: No, they worship him because he dismantled working rights for people. He helped make our country, like, only be about, uh, working poor, where you used to like actually be a working person like Dan and Roseanne Connor, and, like, have a house, and send your kids to college. Nobody of that, nobody who has those kind of jobs these days – of course, that don’t have those kinds of jobs here at all. They don’t even exist anymore. That whole class doesn’t even exist in this country anymore.
Kuo: Ronald Reagan, you know, deserves a certain amount of defense. I mean, he did sort of win the Cold War.
Maher: Hah. Come on.
Kuo: He did, right?
Maher: He played a part. That is so ridiculous. That infuriates me. To say this man came in in act five at the very end, and he won the Cold War. You know what? Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, everybody played a part in winning the Cold War.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.















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Yes, Truman and JFK played
March 10, 2007 - 02:13 ET by Ken ShepherdYes, Truman and JFK played a part but it's the Democratic Party from LBJ onward that systematically stood in the way of sensible Cold War containment policy. Reagan came along and not only reinvigorated containment, he instituted the policy of Soviet transcendence. Pushing the evil empire back from its furthest reaches of imperial dominion. Funding the mujahedein in Afghanistan, supporting Solidarity in Poland, working with Saudi Arabia to lower the price of oil and thereby dry up the revenues Russian oil brought in, and of course, using SDI and a massive military armament to force the Soviet system to grind itself into oblivion as it could NOT keep pace with a free market capitalist economy unfettered by Reagan's tax cuts and deregulation.
Sure, Truman, et al played a part, but it was Reagan who reversed the damage of the horrible policies under both parties in the 1970s, both military and economic, that gave the Soviets a fighting chance in the first place.
"On Friday’s “Real
March 10, 2007 - 02:18 ET by ckc1227"On Friday’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher was discussing how various Republicans like to “dress up” in assorted costumes,"
Sure, Bill, keep telling yourself that it's Republicans who like to "dress up" in assorted costumes, lol.
Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes. 12 million illegal immigrants are counting on you.
Conservatives should actually
March 10, 2007 - 02:50 ET by mostlymoderateConservatives should actually EMBRACE and LOVE what Maher is doing by acting like a jack@##. I think he is turning a lot of people off of liberalism.
Roseanne Barr actually has a
March 10, 2007 - 03:14 ET by Tony SRoseanne Barr actually has a point here about lower class people being squeezed. But it was forces far beyond (and before) President Reagan that caused that. Even Noam Chomsky has said as much. Reagan makes a convenient villian for the left, though, so they demonize him.
I agree. I can't really blam
March 10, 2007 - 03:20 ET by mostlymoderateI agree. I can't really blame the Republicans OR the Democrats for that problem. Bill Clinton screwed us with NAFTA; what was he thinking???
What a joke
March 10, 2007 - 04:58 ET by SportPoliticsWhat a joke. Yes,she has a point, and that point is " SHE IS INCORRECT".
Check the stats for poverty since Roosevelt, and you'll find out it's another great lie the left has going.
Most of the younguns blow more dough on CRAP by the time they're 30 something than the "great generation of middle Americans" spent in their entire lives.
IT'S A BIG FAT LIE WHAT TUBBY BARR SAID.
He was discussing politics an
March 10, 2007 - 04:20 ET byHe was discussing politics and our nation with Roseanne Barr??? The woman who spit on the ground after singing the national anthem??? What’s that say about him? mmm… as if we needed more proof of his lack of character.
I am not so shocked that Bill Maher would say what he said, because he will do anything to get mentioned here on Newsbusters. Let's face it, the man needs to be loved.
And I too wonder how the main-stream-media will find what he said. I also wonder if Rosie will go after Maher for his statement, cause technically it is insulting homosexuals too.
As for me? I love Reagan. He was a great man and a great president. He proclaimed 1983, “The year of the Bible,” and did not back down to the ACLU’s attack on him for it. He was a real man, and there's nothing 'gay' (homo) about appreciating such in a man. I believe he was a true Christian and is in heaven right now. (His wife, however, should not have been for embryonic stem-cell research. But she may not have been thinking clearly.)
And just because I love Reagan, does not mean I want to lick the back of stamps. Personally, I prefer the self sticking ones. I do not think the postal service even still makes the stamps that need licking. If Bill Maher is licking them, then he is doing so because he likes the taste. Which I find a little odd.
Debra...
Isn't it sad that all these l
March 10, 2007 - 04:56 ET by mostlymoderateIsn't it sad that all these lowly heathens are coming out to talk politics for the Democrats? I mean is this the best they can do? I really don't know what is happening to my country. Depressing to say the least.
mostlymoderate,I agree with y
March 10, 2007 - 06:04 ET bymostlymoderate,
I agree with you. When Roseanna Barr is put on a show to talk about the state of our nation, the state of our nation is pretty darn bad! ...Debra
Like they say, opinions are l
March 10, 2007 - 07:38 ET by HypocriteHaterLike they say, opinions are like assh***s, everyone's got one.
Bill Maher?? The thing abou
March 10, 2007 - 05:52 ET by Andrew H.Bill Maher?? The thing about Maher--I don't care what he says. Silly little puppet mouth DNC creepy liberal.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we pr
March 10, 2007 - 05:52 ET by motherbeltLadies and Gentlemen, we present the Left's newest double-digit IQ political and economic analyst: Roseanne Barr (is she back to being Roseanne Barr now, or is she still, like, so cool, one-name "Roseanne"?)
Did you notice the new face l
March 10, 2007 - 06:06 ET byDid you notice the new face lift that Roseanne had? That was really the back of her that we were seeing? :o)
Maher makes anti-gay slur
March 10, 2007 - 06:17 ET by Jack BauerI mean, they love Ronald Reagan in a way that’s just (so) gay.
I'm sure BIG MEDIA are going to be all over a lib***l using a derived phrase that has entered their cannon of PHRASES THAT SHALL NOT BE UTTERED...
Associated Press
Mar. 1, 2007 12:00 AM
In recent years, gay rights advocates and educators have tried teaching students that it is hurtful to use the word "gay" as an all-purpose term for something disagreeable. At Berkeley High School, a gay student club passed out buttons with the words "That's so gay" crossed out to get their classmates to stop using them.
Eliza Byard, deputy executive director of the New York-based Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, said nearly nine out of 10 gay students her organization surveyed in 2005 reported hearing "That's so gay" or "You're so gay" frequently.
"It bothers them a lot," Byard said. "As odd or funny as the phrase sounds, imagine what it feels like to be in a setting where you consistently hear it used to describe something undesirable or stupid, and it also refers to you."
Clearly Maher is using the phrase in a way that is supposed to be disagreeable. Therefore it is not a legitimate observation but a crass attempt to make homosexuals the butt of a lame joke, so to speak.
And what is really crazy, is
March 10, 2007 - 06:31 ET byAnd what is really crazy, is that they (the homosexuals) are too stupid to realize that they are being used in the game of socialism. Unless the anti-Christ is a homosexual, the homosexuals will be the first to be banned from society, once he comes into power.
The reason it bothers them that the term, "That's so gay," refers to that which a person feels is stupid, is because they are in fact, stupid! My gosh, what they do sexually is unbelievably stupid. And the fact that they don't even have the brains to hide it any more, is just beyond stupid.
Debra
http://www.smh.com.au/article
March 10, 2007 - 07:01 ET by USA4freedomhttp://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/10/31/1162056963840.html?from=top5
Bill knows a lot about dress up. What a tasteless POS. Talk about a ugly drunk... and people listen to this jerk????
America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower
I don't know what "POS&q
March 10, 2007 - 07:13 ET byI don't know what "POS" means, but he really is an ugly drunk in that photo. WOW! ick....
Well, the first two initial
March 10, 2007 - 07:19 ET by sarcasmoWell, the first two initials are for "piece" & "of," so hopefully you've got the rest...
JMR
Ohhhhhhhhh...... hehe :o)
March 10, 2007 - 07:23 ET byOhhhhhhhhh...... :o)
Exactly, Jack. Setting asid
March 10, 2007 - 07:08 ET by dahliatraversExactly, Jack. Setting aside for a moment all the inaccuracies in their statements, in terms of denigrating gays, what Maher said was actually worse than what Coulter said. Let's see if the msm gets as virulently indignant about his comments.
sure dahlia, you get the po
March 10, 2007 - 08:10 ET by Jack Bauersure dahlia, you get the point.
This phrase and so many others doesn't bother me (or you and debra), but it bothers lib***ls... until it doesn't bother them!
And that would be when someone they agree with uses it. Then it's fine. Wow.
I used to think having no commonsense was the main prerequisite for leftoids. But it appears lacking the ability to feel shame is the #1 requirement.
*Patiently awaits all the NB
March 10, 2007 - 08:41 ET by Roger the Shrubber*Patiently awaits all the NB Lib trolls to arrive and defend Maher by blaming Coulter*
*hears crickets chirping*
Roger
March 10, 2007 - 09:32 ET by Noel SheppardRoger,
Actually, I'm waiting for the trolls with below-average reading comprehension skills that are going to vehemently state that Maher didn't say that!
Anybody making book on how soon that'll happen? :-) ns
What time do you think Bill g
March 10, 2007 - 09:35 ET byWhat time do you think Bill gets up, Noel?
hehe...
Haha. Has Maher's personal l
March 10, 2007 - 10:15 ET by Roger the ShrubberHaha. Has Maher's personal letter to Newsbusters arrived yet?
Oddly, The Huffington Post hasn't covered this story yet, but at least I was able to catch up on Courtney Love. I was wondering how she was. Thanks, HuffPo!
As opposed to someone like yo
March 10, 2007 - 09:48 ET by BillAdkinsAs opposed to someone like you with below average writing skills, Noel? Like you who, if it doesn't fit your agenda, make it up. BTW, can I get in on the book?
Nice personal attack there
March 10, 2007 - 09:54 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsNice personal attack there Adkins. No substance available for you today? Thanks for visiting reality, enjoy your trip home.
D
A day without NewsBusters is like a day without sunshine.
"Personal attack?"
March 10, 2007 - 09:59 ET by BillAdkins"Personal attack?" Not at all - that was accuracy in media. But you wouldn't recognize that, you're a FOX News watcher.
Another attack without subs
March 10, 2007 - 10:05 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsAnother attack without substance. Sorry, I don't get Fox News on my cable.
That's 2 for me 0 for you.
But who's counting?
D
A day without NewsBusters is like a day without sunshine.
I don't watch Fox News. I do
March 10, 2007 - 10:05 ET by Roger the ShrubberI don't watch Fox News.
I do know a whiny little troll who has absolutely nothing to add to the thread (because Maher completely F-ed up all the Libs who were in an orgasmic frenzy over Coulter) when I see one. Your investment in hating Coulter has not paid off, since it only took a week for one of your Liberal Idols to step on a land mine of their own making. Moral high ground is a precarious position.
Like I stated before: need a binky, or is it naptime already?
For the life of me, I just do
March 10, 2007 - 10:07 ET by mikejFor the life of me, I just don't get the lib's Foxnewsophobia. Out of all the other networks, they can't stand Fox because apparently they don't call for the impeachment of Bush/Cheney twice an hour like they think should be mandated by the FCC.
Go ahead and watch your SeeBS "news" shows and translate the message from Koz for your marching orders.
As Guliani said on SNL
March 10, 2007 - 10:10 ET by RJ"No substance available for you today?"
Rudy Guliani was hosting SNL a few months after 9/11 and someone said "can we be funny again?"
Rudy responded "why start now?"
Same answer to your question for Bill M.
Someone needs their binky....
March 10, 2007 - 09:59 ET by Roger the ShrubberSomeone needs their binky....
(I cannot remember who posted that line a few weeks ago: FestEd, MM, I am not sure, but thank you for the memorable line)
El Shrubbo -- he seems to hav
March 10, 2007 - 10:06 ET by Jack BauerEl Shrubbo -- he seems to have a thang for ns.
I hope it isn't , ahem... preverted.
Someone needs their binky..
March 10, 2007 - 10:08 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsSomeone needs their binky....
I think mommy took his binky away, hoping he would grow up. All he does is pout, though.
D
A day without NewsBusters is like a day without sunshine.
Ladies and Gentlemen
March 10, 2007 - 10:55 ET by Noel SheppardLadies and Gentlemen:
And we have a winner!!!
Who had eight hours? Was it Blonde or Unsane? :-) ns
Yes noel, do try to be one
March 10, 2007 - 11:05 ET by Jack BauerYes noel, do try to be one of those 'political' writers without an agenda.
Jack
March 10, 2007 - 11:09 ET by Noel SheppardJack,
Can you point a couple out to me so that I can learn from their enviable impartiality? :-)
On a different note, how are you liking this year's "24"? So far, I think it's the best since the first season. How 'bout you? ns
ns -- Those political write
March 10, 2007 - 11:22 ET by Jack Bauerns -- Those political writers -- well, there's always Beatrix Potter. She's very hard-hitting but tries to be nice about it.
(Maybe a bit a of a green agenda there though.)
Don't forget that Reverend guy who does the Thomas The Tank Engine stuff.
Mind you again, he's into encouraging global warming using coal-fired steam engines thus increasing Thomas's carbon footprint.
omigod -- even seemingly benign kid's writers appear to have "agendas."
24 -- love it. Though given my location, I'm three hours behind.
I still have a soft spot for Day 2 when George bought the farm with the nuke one. And Jack capping Ryan Chappell was pretty good.
They also had three ice blonde babes in that Day 2 as well, as I recall.
Jack
March 10, 2007 - 11:35 ET by Noel SheppardJack,
Well, I was speaking exclusively from an intensity and consistency standpoint. Day One I was literally on the edge of my seat every episode. That hasn't been the case in subsequent seasons when there were several episodes each "day" that were pretty weak and borderline disinteresting.
By contrast, so far this year, every episode has been strong, intense, and compelling. ns
By contrast, so far this ye
March 10, 2007 - 11:46 ET by Jack BauerBy contrast, so far this year, every episode has been strong, intense, and compelling.
Sure, for ratcheting up the tension every ep, no argument there. It's teeth-clenching tension, no let up from start to finish.
And they did have the self-made problem of how do you constantly top a nuke that goes off in Valencia and we are only on hour 4!!!
But I introduced my brother last year, and he felt exactly the same about Day 5 and couldn't believe how much tension could be generated.
Maybe we become jaded!
Jack
March 10, 2007 - 11:53 ET by Noel SheppardJack,
I don't know if "jaded" is the right word. After all, in season three, it seemed like they were writing the episodes on the fly, and really didn't know where they were heading. And, it seemed that virtually every episode had events that made you disbelieve the entire premise and plot.
By contrast, they really seem at the top of their game so far this year. There have been very few instances when I've turned to my daughter and said, "Oh, that's just ridiculous. That would never happen, and here's why."
You know what I mean? ns
he's into encouraging global
March 10, 2007 - 14:25 ET by dahliatravershe's into encouraging global warming using coal-fired steam engines thus increasing Thomas's carbon footprint.
(gasp) Big energy has even co-opted the Reverend Awdry. Their reach is UNBELIEVABLE!
Perhaps if we ignore Maher he
March 10, 2007 - 10:25 ET by msh1973Perhaps if we ignore Maher he will just go away...no chance huh, bummer!
But what if it were true..that they loved Ronald Reagan that way
March 10, 2007 - 10:30 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasSuppose the most juvenille and ridiculous claim of Maher were true, that Republicans did love Reagan in a way that is just Gay?
Is anyone missing the OBVIOUS here? Maher is equating gay/homosexual love as a CHARACTER flaw, as a personal deficiency, something to be ASHAMED OF...and by the rules of defining what a BIGOT is set by LIBERALS (rules of course I don't agree with but will apply here since they like things their way) Maher just proved that Coulter's use of the FAGGOT was far less an offense than the outright and clear intimation by Maher that Gay Love is shameful.
Maher will of course get a pass by LIBERALS with his hatemongering bigotted remark against GAY love...(hatemongering and bigotted by LIB definitions and expectations). Well MsM...speak up, oh wait, we already discovered you're a bunch of hypocritical fags...my bad.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Bill Maher
March 10, 2007 - 11:30 ET by Gat New YorkBill Maher has apparent deep seated emotional problems to be that angry and vitriolic.
I have made a point of literally tuning out the Bill Maher’s of the world. I refuse to watch any movie that features any of the high profile left wing lunatics even if shown on TV for free. I refuse to accept a ticket to a Barbara Streisand or Bruce Springstein concert. And I have stopped listening to the Imus program after being an extremely loyal listener for so many years.
Bill Maher has a program that cannot have advertising because it is on HBO. People subscribe to HBO and get a menu of programs to which they have no choice. I chose to stop my subscription to HBO and not support the insane ranting of Maher.
Why continue to provide financial support to these people? I believe that if enough conservatives stopped their subscriptions to HBO, Time/Warner would have no choice and have to terminate his show.
He has a right to free speech and I have a right to free enterprise.
Projection
March 10, 2007 - 15:32 ET by nkviking75Maher, given the near worship of Bill Clinton on your side of the aisle, one word from the field of psychology comes to mind: Projection. (For those in Rio Linda, "projection" is attributing a negative characteristic of one's own to someone else.)
rwr
March 10, 2007 - 22:19 ET by JoePronald wilson reagon made not a single, solitary decision during his entire presidency, except perhaps when to take a pi$$. Other than that, on foreign policy, domestic policy, he was completely beholden to "the troika," of ed meese, don (merrill lyncy) regan, and the bush consigliere, jimmy addison baker der dritte (the 3rd). rwr would be given 3x5 cards by mikey deaver, mr. "this backdrop makes him look tough, let's use it!!!" onto which the troika had written what rwr was supposed to say to each guest and visitor throughout the day.
Funnily enough, he'd meet some Washington insider and he'd get the cards mixed up that he was supposed to use for some Japanese diplomat. Happened a lot.
Then george herbert walker boosh's friend's son takes a shot a reagan, and he, rwr, was even LESS in control afterwards. Why? He was almost as foolish as the president born on the 29th of May, 1917, to think that, as president of the United States of America, that he, rwr, could actually make decisions. Nein! ghwb's friend's son sent a wake-up call: listen and do as you're told, no more, the same "wake up, now go to sleep" call that the May 29th fellar received.
And so it went. He was no more responsible for the collapse of the Soviet Union than was the worst goat-herder in Argentina. He was, once again, an actor and nothing more, for "der kalte Krieg" (kholodnaya voyna) had been over for 3-5 years before rwr came to power, when Russkie soldiers stopped being paid, equipment maintained, let alone upgraded, and daniel pipes' daddy said those infamous words: "why, why, why......we MUST build up the US arsenal........for the Russian bear has invisible weapons.......HOW do we know you ask? Such a stupid question that answers itself: becase we canNOT see them, of course, so the obviously have them."
The hard part is, of course, that it's a virilent BITCH to hear this sort of thing, that is, deep in the Ami psyche we know this to be true, so we'll throw stones at these premi (or "premises," I dunno the plural) and scream, no way, no way, can't be, he's an anti-...something....surely.....surely.....just gotta be a lefty or something else we don't like. Nyet --- vce rav'no, vce gavno, all the way to the bank.
Nothing's as it seems, fellars, nothing's as it seems.
But still ------------------------ bill maher's a putz too, comfortably on the sidelines while he acts, thru his big-ass mouth, as though he's on the front-line of America, for America, and with America. When he's but a bimbo millionaire just like geena davis!
Joe...My good man, please tak
March 10, 2007 - 22:23 ET by Clear thinkerJoe...
My good man, please take your meds as were prescribed.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
30 years of boozing?
March 10, 2007 - 22:27 ET by RJWow. Got some issues there? I'm thinking you spent way too much time on a bar stool during your 30 years.
Fuckface
March 10, 2007 - 23:00 ET by JoePrj: Wow, did you also work in intelligence for your 30 years? That's great. You probably saw $hit, did $hit, heard $shit, over and over and then lied about $hit that you'd like to now talk about. Please tell me about it, anxious to hear. Thanks in advance.
Or, like most morons in America, you support the troops, not by standing up for them when the VA blows 'em off (Walter Reed is not a new thing, ask any WW I, WW II, Korean Conflict or Vietnam Vet), not by listening to them, unless they fit your screed, but by doing VERY, VERY, VERY oh-so-tough things like saying the words: "I support the troops." Well, Mensch, ya know, them's quite hollow words, as Jethro Bodine would say. But alas, you're not alone, for the boosh admin and 92 percent of republicans are right beside you to defend your right, by bitching only, that it's Ok to say "I support the troops, damnit, and I mean it....and $hit......that's about ALL I'm gonna do!!!!" when.......ah.........words are all you have, limpy one.
Sonst: show the beef.
I actually work with Scheisskoepfe like RJ now, soooo damned tough and troop supportive, while watching fox news. It's a fuckin' gas, gas, gas, as Michael Jagger would say!
JoeP...Watch the friggin' lan
March 10, 2007 - 23:06 ET by bigtimerJoeP...
Watch the friggin' language.
There are other F'n ways to use the word...
Get my drift.
R
March 10, 2007 - 23:23 ET by JoePCapisch, bigtimer, but that's not the point.
Thank you JoeP...Much appreci
March 10, 2007 - 23:50 ET by bigtimerThank you JoeP...
Much appreciated.
Now carry on.
Btw...I am soooo tired of GWing so I will just throw in my usual two cents....
Drill Often!...Drill Everywhere! (thanks once again BD wherever you are!)
ME TOO! GWing is such a non i
March 11, 2007 - 00:22 ET by mostlymoderateME TOO! GWing is such a non issue in my opinion. B.O.R.I.N.G. Takes somebody like Al Gore to make something so B.O.R.I.N.G. an issue. Geez
Potty mouth!
March 10, 2007 - 23:07 ET by Free StinkerPotty mouth!
Three bags full!~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
March 10, 2007 - 22:34 ET by Free StinkerThree bags full!
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"One thing that seperates liberals from conservatives is that liberals are craftier and work without the hinderance of a conscience." --Lynn Wooley
Go ahead
March 10, 2007 - 22:46 ET by JoePOk, folks, refute a single, solitary word I said. Sometimes, the work one does means seeing $hit that's no fun to see, no fun to work with, and no fun to lie about.
Standing by. Be specific on what's said that isn't so. Or continue in your dreamland or better, tell me your MOS, AFSC and whatever you've done to secure your words. That's the more interesting part. The rest is, as newsbusters says, complete crap.
Standing by: Clear Thinker; RJ, and Free Stinker.
Ich hoere zu, Menschen!
Ok Joe you asked for it...The
March 10, 2007 - 22:50 ET by Clear thinkerOk Joe you asked for it...
They don't herd goats in Argentina!
Put that in your crack pipe and toke.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Clear Thinker: c'mon, stand
March 10, 2007 - 23:05 ET by JoePClear Thinker: c'mon, standing by. And your "liberal msm has become an enemy of the USA," I agree with completely. However, so is the the right wing, faux and friends, nothing but squandering for hard-ups to believe their screed. If you don't see that, that's your shortcoming, not that of a liberal, moderate, or anyone else.
Oh, now I get it, you are an
March 10, 2007 - 23:13 ET by Clear thinkerOh, now I get it, you are an equal opportunity hater. You hate everyone and everything good about America, good for you trashmouth!
You are tiresome... nighty-night jerk!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Troll-a-rama
March 10, 2007 - 22:51 ET by Free Stinkerronald wilson reagon made not a single, solitary decision during his entire presidency
I'm sorry Troll, when you start off with something that easy, most of us won't even bother. Now shoo! Back to your bridge! Someone has to collect those Tolls.
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"George W. Bush simply reminds leftists everyday what they will never be. And they hate him for it." --Tammy Bruce
FS. Oh yeah? My dad's bigge
March 10, 2007 - 23:10 ET by JoePFS. Oh yeah? My dad's bigger than your dad!
Was the 10th grade that tough that you don't have anything further to say, refute, or stand up for?
"Yes, I only came here
March 10, 2007 - 23:19 ET by Free Stinker"Yes, I only came here to make outrageous statements at the behest of my cell leader" -JoeP (or what he really meant if he was honest)
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"George W. Bush simply reminds leftists everyday what they will never be. And they hate him for it." --Tammy Bruce
FS: "(or what he reall
March 10, 2007 - 23:35 ET by JoePFS:
"(or what he really meant if he was honest)" Actually, FS, "was" should be "were" as it's a subjunctive clause. But I'll forgive, this time 'round, your complete and utter ignorance of the English language and its grammar.
Way to go, roughneck. You proved my point that there's no refuting the farcity, and I suppose you are a Jeff Christy listener.
Wait: who's this jeffy christy with such a wimpy sounding name? Did he, perhaps, no, no way, have anal cysts and therefore, not serve during a US war? And is there one newsbuster who doesn't know that rush limbaugh, aka, jeff christy in his early days, had anal cysts, otherwise, he would have WON the VietNam war, single handedly, he's sooooooooooooo tough, just like Free Stinker!!
Free Stinker: "Oh yeah, you're being a bully. I'm going to get you banned from newsbusters, mister, just you wait 'n see!"
Why would I waste my time t
March 10, 2007 - 23:45 ET by Free StinkerWhy would I waste my time trying to get you banned? Some of the folks here need the laughs that Trolls - such as yourself - provide. Me, I find it interseting to watch as you get wilder in your as hominum attacks as your poor logic, and poorer grap of history gets exposed . . . and how much it bothers you that you can not get the reaction you are looking for.
BTW - You do reallize that when you DailyKOSers, (or wherever you were sent from) come here, you just help NB get $s for their banner ads? LOL!
Actually
March 11, 2007 - 00:04 ET by JoePActually, Free Sinker, if you think the dailykos folks are morons, than we finally agree on something.
It's pitiful reading their crapola. No plant in me. I'm alone and could give a crap about dailykos or any of their associates. They, to me, are the paid shills. I'd not have to work so hard day in and out were I a shill.
Still awaiting refutation and it's early yet on Maui.
Maui? What time is it there?I
March 11, 2007 - 00:09 ET by bigtimerMaui? What time is it there?
I used to know the difference years ago when I lived in that GWing neighborhood of Alaska...
Which is about eight o'clock now my time in Mt.
wow
March 11, 2007 - 00:28 ET by misterbillI haven't been around for a while. You sound like you are spoiling for a fight. Please bear with me, I am an older man and trying to understand your anger. I am a Korean vet. I am far from politically sophisticated, but I thought Ron Reagan had done a good job. Help me out here. I am never too old to learn. I do support the troops. I wish I were young enough and fit enough to go help them.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
misterbill
March 11, 2007 - 00:42 ET by Dave RSir,
In case you didn't see it on Friday, I want to tell you that I am very glad you have returned to NB. I am aware of the reasons you felt inclined to stay away and I am truly sorry that became an issue for you. It should not have been that way.
You have always been one of my favorite members here, even back when I was but a mere lurker puke, and you are also one of the people here that prompted me to finally sign up.
It is great having someone around who actually lived through the history I have spent so much of my life reading and studying about.
You are one of the people that make this site uniquely special.
Carry on, sir. By all means.
David R.
Dave Thank you
March 11, 2007 - 00:53 ET by misterbillDave Thank you. I clown around a lot in life. Very often it is a defense mechanism. My memory is starting to fade, but Thank You Lord, slowly. We on NB are so lucky to have such a diverse, intelligent group of people to share their knowledge and experience with us. I will not name anyone for fear that I will forget someone.I have, very much enjoyed sharing with you. And sneakily, I am very happy that someone else who lives in Georgia is a contributor. I shared with BT a letter I got from Johnny Isakson. He was down at the border and actually assisted in welding one of the sections in the fence. I am so happy I chose Georgia for my retirement.
Getting kind of long so I'll close with--"right back atcha!".
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
misterbill,I clown around a b
March 11, 2007 - 01:21 ET by Dave Rmisterbill,
I clown around a bit myself. I have little other choice, really. Let's face it, my brain isn't exactly wired like most. As I'm sure you have noticed, I have a somewhat different view of the path this big blue rock we are riding upon is headed down. Can't really say I like what I see coming. Perhaps taking things a little less seriously at times aids me in preserving what is left of my sanity.
My dad's Alzeimers has recently taken a turn for the worst. He will soon be entering his 79th year in this world, yet hasn't a clue about what is happening in it. In some ways I actually see this as a blessing, yet sometimes a curse. In either event, it is still a hell of a way for a former Marine to go out, one who served aboard a carrier (CV-47) in what has sadly become known as the "Forgotten War." Even sadder still is that all the engineering knowledge and experience he gained since has essentially been lost forever.
I can assure you that not all of us younger types have forgotten that war and the courage of those who participated in it.
Thank you again for your service to your country and to all of us.
David R.
Dave R -I don't want to--
March 11, 2007 - 01:35 ET by misterbillDave R -I don't want to--build false hope, but I was at the doctor's myself the other day. (I am considering back surgery , so I can go out and whup some liberal but). Anyhow, there was a copy of a Readers Digest and the main topic was new drugs . There was one that was particularly helpful for Alzheimer's. It did not restore, but rather, halted the progress of the disease. I tell you this because , so often in my life I have been able to update doctors on new drugs that it is possible your Dad's doctor is not awsre of it. It may not be ready for general prescribing,but who knows what you may accomplish.
BTW I believe the Philippine Sea was in Korea while I was. (oct 51-apr 52, sep53-apr54)
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
dave r PS
March 11, 2007 - 01:37 ET by misterbillPS Dave You are not wired differently--you have looked , you have studied and you have made some choices. They are all consistent with being one hell of an American.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
Thanks, I appreciate that.As
March 11, 2007 - 02:31 ET by Dave RThanks, I appreciate that.
As for the drug advances, we are exploring all possibilities in this area, and I am familiar with the article you referred to. False hopes for me aren't really an issue, but they are for my mom, who has severe Type 1 diabetes and isn't doing well herself as she has of late steadfastly refused to eat correctly. It as if she has taken a list of things diabetics should never eat and written menu across the top. I have a theory of why this is so, but I hope to God I am wrong.
On a much lighter note, while you were away, rhayes declared that Blonde and I were lovers! Of course, I could do far, far worse than Blonde, and probably have more than once in my life :-( [Blonde was another of the people that prompted me to join here.] Randy has also apparently turned into a German, as he now calls himself Schmidt, or something like that.-LOL.
DR
PS-Noel, I swear I wasnt trying to mess up your thread. I just had to get something said.
Thanks, I appreciate that.As
March 11, 2007 - 02:53 ET by Dave R-
Still awaiting refutation and
March 11, 2007 - 13:37 ET by Free StinkerStill awaiting refutation and it's early yet on Maui
Well, it was Late in New Jersey...
Why would I take your comments about Reagan seriously? You led with "Reagan never made a decision in 8 years as President"
It is amazing that you can't even remember two of his notably Bad decisions: Illegal Immigrant Amnesty & Pulling Out Of Lebanon. You're letting your rage slip a bit there.
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"George W. Bush simply reminds leftists everyday what they will never be. And they hate him for it." --Tammy Bruce
Joe's mythology
March 10, 2007 - 22:59 ET by RJJoeP, you've clearly built up a large, bitter, cynical mythology in your mind, using exaggerations of tidbits. You obviously believe it, and good for you. Not that it's important, but since you ask, I'm a vet and I was a service brat in a large family of vets. You come across as someone arguing across a bar late at night. (Jack Cafferty does, too, BTW.) I don't argue with those folks, because it's a waste of time and they're invariably looking for a fight....as you've already shown. Time to call your designated driver, Joe.
Wanna know the strange thing?
March 10, 2007 - 23:47 ET by mostlymoderateWanna know the strange thing? I kinda like JoeP. Entertaining to say the least. Maybe it is the 30yr in the military thing.
Not me, moderate
March 11, 2007 - 00:00 ET by RJNot me, moderate. Like Jack Cafferty, he's what we call a blowhard. Each to their own, I guess.
Hm
March 10, 2007 - 23:50 ET by JoePOk, still not heard a single, solitary word in refute, in truth, or on the contrary.
So ist das Leben (that's the way it aways is) on newsbusters. If you don't shovel the same crap, you're considered red-lineable, must be som'pin' wrong witch you, man!
Thought there would be some discussion and not just ethnocentricity all over the frickin' place. But when quips and crap are the order of the day, that's how it goes for weaklings.
Still no word on the obvious comparison of scooter the pervert libby to billy-boy clinton, with one an executive perv, and the other, libby, only writing about pre-teen girls being raped by bears. But their commonality?
Surely ALL newsbusters, who are soooooo far ahead of the norm, recall that irving the perv was marc rich's lawyer, and pleaded with clinton to pardon marcy marc? Didn'tcha 'member? Or isn't defrauding the US Government a cool thing that marc did?
Ok, newsbusters, go back to your 9th grade homework. Forget all of this. None of it occured, for you're secured in your realm, God will care for you before he cares for liberals, moderates, those pesky Palestinians who get their 12-year old daughter shot in the head by poor (fascist) israeli soldiers.
Say you prayers that you wake up happy and smiling tomorrow to brush your teeth.