Under pressure from radical-left activists at MoveOn.org and bloggers like the Daily Kos, the Nevada Democratic Party pulled the rug out from under the Fox News Channel on Friday, canceling a planned presidential debate that had been scheduled for August 14, Politico.com reported. MoveOn launched a petition drive that it said was signed by more than 260,000 people, arguing “Fox is a mouthpiece for the Republican Party, not a legitimate news channel. The Democratic Party of Nevada should drop Fox as its partner for the presidential primary debate.” The group's Eli Pariser also called FNC part of the "right-wing smear machine."
The decision represents a dramatic shift leftward from the presidential cycle four years ago. On September 9, 2003, all nine Democratic candidates went to Baltimore to participate in a debate sponsored by FNC and the Congressional Black Caucus Institute. Dick Gephardt and Dennis Kucinich even missed a close school-voucher House vote for the event. Brit Hume was the moderator, and the panel had three black liberals: NPR's Juan Williams, Ed Gordon (formerly of NBC and BET), and former Newsweek writer (and current NPR host) Farai Chideya. As you can see from the transcript, Hume asked no questions to the candidates, aside from asking Howard Dean what his lapel pin said.
A New York Times politics blog quotes the letter to FNC from Nevada Democrats, citing the offense of FNC boss Roger Ailes making a joke about President Bush confusing Obama for Osama. (It's a dumb-Bush joke, and Democrats object. And don't they know CNN has confused the names twice?) Kate Phillips also quoted the FNC response from VP David Rhodes, which is pretty feisty:
News organizations will want to think twice before getting involved in the Nevada Democratic Caucus which appears to be controlled by radical fringe out-of-state interest groups, not the Nevada Democratic Party. In the past, MoveOn.org has said they ‘own’ the Democratic Party - while most Democrats don’t agree with that, it’s clearly the case in Nevada.
The Democrats are now saying that an established, 10-year-old cable news channel, the number one cable news channel in most hours, does not qualify as an honest broker of Democratic debates. Can you imagine the Republicans saying they wouldn't hold a debate with a liberal network? They'd be left with FNC and C-SPAN and perhaps local cable access in Aurora, Illinois. How many debates have Republicans accepted liberal moderators, not only in presidential debates, but in congressional and gubernatorial debates with Russert, Stephanopoulos, and so on? Conservatives haven't exactly organized web campaigns to protest that stacked deck.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center
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So, like, basically Xenu is
March 9, 2007 - 22:57 ET by FairlightIf Democrats cannot stand up to moveon.kos, how are they going to stand up to terrorists?
It might help if NewsBusters told the entire story
March 10, 2007 - 13:19 ET by sknabtThe conservative gnashing of teeth here is pretty understandable given the fact NewsBusters appears to be carefully filtering the facts. There's more going on here than "pressure from radical-left activists." Sure there are liberals such as Robert Greenwald, creator of the Outfoxed movie, organizing a petition drive to boycott the debate. But what's missing in NewsBusters' coverage wallpapering over Fox News' easily demonstrable right-wing bias, is what's specifically driving this initiative.
Fox News' coverage of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have been so biased it's pretty much a disgrace, though it's their coverage of Obama that's specifically the catalyst behind Greenwald et al's petition drive. Greenwald has produced a YouTube video documenting Fox News' biased coverage with emphasis on their sham story of Obama being schooled at a Muslim madrasa. The video has over 300,000 hits.
If you bother to actually research this issue you'd find that given all the above, the Nevada Democratic Party sponsoring the debate still was planning to stick with FNC despite the petition drive.
The straw that broke the camel's back was Roger Ailes' recent speach where he cracked some political jokes poking fun only a Democrats (oh, I'm just so shocked). One played on Obama's name to compare him to Osama bin Ladin. After that brainless quip the Democrats had their fill of Fox News' spin.
disagree with your statement
March 10, 2007 - 13:37 ET by misterbilldisagree with your statement-- I watch Fox News occasionally. If I listed those I evaluate as Liberal versus Conservative---there are far more Liberal commentators. Susterren(?), Colmes. Shepard(?) Smith.
Middle of the road--Cavuto
Independent--O'Reilly
I have never tried to assess Hume or some of the others. I do know when I go to the major networks, they are all extremely liberal. I do not watch very much news anymore because it isn't news it's is propaganda against the President (I am far from his biggest fan) or against any Republican elected official. The newspapers are the same. Fortunately, I get a local small city newspaper that presents both sides of any issue on most days. As you can see by my tagline , I support ( not blindly) my country with a Liberal or Conservative President.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
Umm...
March 10, 2007 - 16:05 ET by FactFiendFirst of all, Greta van Susteren and Shepherd Smith are not commentators -- they are anchors. And even if van Susteren is a liberal, her show is infotainment, confined to the latest Britney scandal or Natalee Holloway. And to call Neil Cavuto "middle of the road" is inaccurate. He's as conservative as they come, and regularly attacks Democrats on his program -- calling them "villains" and such.
Aside from Colmes and the few Democratic strategists that pop-up now and again, like Kirsten Powers, there are no regular liberal voices on Fox News (and both Colmes and Powers leave much to be desired).
John Gibson is out and out conservative, as are Brit Hume and the majority of his "All-Star Panelists" -- Charles Krauthammer, William Kristol, Fred Barnes, etc. O'Reilly is a liberal-bashing loudmouth, and Sean Hannity runs the show on Hannity & Colmes, and he has his own show on Sundays.
There is a noticeable dearth of voices from the left on Fox News.
FF,Fox is #1.Just the facts,
March 10, 2007 - 16:16 ET by bigtimerFF,
Fox is #1.
Just the facts, so they must be doing something right, after-all we conservatives are in the minority so it can't be just us viewing now can it?
LMAO!
Btw...I am not going to even waste my time refuting the other stuff you posted that is just junk...
Thats funny you would say tha
March 10, 2007 - 17:33 ET by BlazerThats funny you would say that bigtimer. I guess at the end of the day when all the Libs get a fix of thier biased hate formula from the MSM, even they come on over to Fox before bedtime to get the truth. It helps them sleep at night.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
Aside from those mentioned.
March 10, 2007 - 16:21 ET by 10thAmendmentAside from those mentioned. So, I guess we should be happy with all of the conservative voices we hear from CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC?
I guess the question becomes, "How can we acheive diversity of thought with those pesky conservatives wanting their say?"
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
I probably won't continue with you--
March 10, 2007 - 16:22 ET by misterbillI probably won't continue with you--I instantly see what kind of person you are. I did not bring up commentators versus anchors. I am not smart enough to distinguish that. The one person I see the most (three times a week) is O'Reilly. He is rude, talks over his guests and often keeps me from hearing the other folks speak. That being said, I still see him as an independent. I also have noticed that he (most often) presents both sides of a story if it is , for example, a Dem versus a Pub.
You also make it a point to tell me that Greta is "infotainment". Again, I am an average American, what difference does that make? I am sitting there and listening to someone who is talking about happenings in the world. I do not watch the other shows, but I do know Krauthammer is a conservative from his writings. And finally, I find my attitudes are far more in keeping with Hannity than with Colmes, but Hannity steamrollers people and Colmes makes some of the most idiotic statements I have ever heard. Thus, I guess you can tell my hours devoted to Fox are about 4-5 a week. I am not a pundit, merely a guy telling you my observations which, obviously are significantly different from yours.
In closing, it would be a help to me if you would post the major network commentators who are conservative as I lean in that direction and would tune in. So far, my experience with the big three and CNN is to hear many untruths.
Thanks for your list, if I get one.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
sean was not so sweet last night
March 10, 2007 - 16:44 ET by tumbler_2007I thought Sean wasn't on very firm ground tilting with that Catholic priest.
The whopping mistake he made, after having made some shameful statements about Catholic priests, was nervously inquiring of the Father:
"You must mean then that you would have to refuse to allow me Holy Communion ?"
Here the priest (can't recall his name) replied, "Yes."
Up to that point his guest had really acted friendly and non-confrontational. But at the moment when he had to tell Sean the painful truth, he spoke directly and frankly. Poor Sean didn't know whether to s-t or go blind. First time tumbler ever saw him speechless.
There is a noticeable deart
March 10, 2007 - 16:25 ET by Jack BauerThere is a noticeable dearth of voices from the left on Fox News.
Frackin' fantastic. That's the best news I've heard all day. But there's still way too many for my liking.
Screw the left and the dead horse they're flogging.
Look, Fox News hired Horend
March 10, 2007 - 16:37 ET by sarcasmoLook, Fox News hired Horendo, fer Chrissakes!! Case closed, just saying that, as far as I'm concerned! Hell, I still get fantasies about chair-slinging Nazis, just seeing that smarmy, mustachio'd face (and why can't the Islamofascist-nutcase contingent of this planet ever seem to shoot straight when he's around?).
(And since best defense is a good offense, here-goes...) There's a noticable dearth of libertarian voices on Fox News -- and no, Judge Napolitano's not enough -- they need to at-least hire Stossel for me to start calling them balanced, and even-then I probably-won't be satisfied! };)
JMR
I suspect that that voting
March 10, 2007 - 16:47 ET by Jack BauerI suspect that that voting habits and party affiliation of all the producers, presenters, researchers at Fox News mirrors that of the media in general.
That's estimated at about a 80% Democrat, 20% Republican split.
You'll have to fill me in on the Libertarian split sarc!
Well, to be honest, Napolit
March 10, 2007 - 16:59 ET by sarcasmoWell, to be honest, Napolitano's often got the leanings (which is nice) but he's obviously guarded compared to an attack-dog like Stossel (a guy they really-do need to hire, dammit). And I agree on the make-up, it was interesting when I first got here over a year ago when someone dug up how "News Corp" (which is the Rupert-parent-corporation of Fox News) gave politically. My memory's a very sketchy thing after that many moons, but the money they gave was overwhelmingly to-Democrats. (And I don't think there was even a "Libertarian" category!)
JMR
FactFiend
March 10, 2007 - 16:46 ET by Noel SheppardFF,
There are no regular liberal voices on Fox News? Really?
Well, here's a list for you:
Now, with that in mind, could you produce a list of all the conservative voices on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and MSNBC?
I'm breathless with antici.......pation. ns
P.S. For those interested, here is a list of all FNC contributors: http://www.foxnews.com/fnctv/. In reality, there are more liberal commentators and hosts on Fox News than all the conservatives on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and MSNBC combined. As such, our friend FactFiend appears not to be what his namesake suggests. :-)
NS
March 10, 2007 - 16:50 ET by BlondeThank you, Carly Simon!
Nice one, Noel.
Blonde
March 10, 2007 - 16:53 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Actually, I was thinking more of Dr. Frank-N-Furter. :-) ns
NS
March 10, 2007 - 16:56 ET by BlondeTalk about a way to derail a thread!
I haven't thought about that in sooooo long.
Maybe next Halloween we could have a RHPS thread....kind of like you did at Christmas this year....putting up the fond memories for all to comment on.
Blonde
March 10, 2007 - 16:58 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Don't tell anyone, but when I was at Cal, I dressed up as Frank one Halloween, fishnets and all. That was one fun night! ;-0 ns
You have to go-twice, or yo
March 10, 2007 - 17:02 ET by sarcasmoYou have to go-twice, or you won't know when to scream "CONSTI," throw rice all over the place, shoot squirtguns, etc...Ah, youth...
JMR
Sarc
March 10, 2007 - 17:07 ET by Noel SheppardJ,
I probably saw it about ten times when I was at Cal. It played every Friday and Saturday night at UC Theatre.
Someone should have made a follow-up movie showing all the audience commentary. That would have been a lot of fun. ns
Or maybe studying audience
March 10, 2007 - 17:16 ET by sarcasmoOr maybe studying audience commentary from different parts of the country & different times. Needless to say, the Coconut Grove, FL showings would compete on the field of weirdness with anywhere else, and they even seemed to evolve over the years, but not always in a fun way (I hear rice and waterguns are now forbidden).
JMR
Only twice?Sheesh, I must hav
March 10, 2007 - 17:08 ET by BlondeOnly twice?
Sheesh, I must have gone twenty five times in G-ville.
Alright everyone, up from your computers and let's do the Time Warp.
And Noel in fish-nets....I'm not quite sure what to make of that!
One thing's for sure, Blonde,
March 10, 2007 - 20:30 ET by dahliatraversOne thing's for sure, Blonde, he has now opened himself up to hateful comments from Bill Maher.
Not so sure about that, Dahli
March 10, 2007 - 20:46 ET by BlondeNot so sure about that, Dahlia,
The RHPS was a phenom....I'd imagine even that idiot Maher went and threw rice, put a newspaper over his head, and screamed "Janet Weissssssss".
But it is kind of funny.....and I was thinking of Carly Simon with.....antici.....paaaaation.
Bravo, Noel-O
March 10, 2007 - 17:10 ET by tumbler_2007Big Rogue's Gallery dere.
Umm...
March 10, 2007 - 17:17 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasUmmm..Tucker...um...Lou Dobbs...um...Tucker....um...Lou Dobbs...did I mention Tucker Carlson by his last name?...um Lou Dobbs...um...John Stossell...yeah John Stossell but he isn't really a conservative but he gets to count cuz he isn't a wacky lib....! Heh Heh....
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Noel, thank you!
March 10, 2007 - 19:07 ET by misterbillI do not watch a lot of news nor, even though I would describe myself as a Fox News fan, do I watch a lot. I do remember most of the names you posted. I find that I learn more truth coming to NB and reading National Review than anywhere else.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
Actually, Greta is not an anc
March 10, 2007 - 18:47 ET by Del DolemonteActually, Greta is not an anchor, she hosts a discussion show.
FYI, if you bother to look at Fox News' website, they get the majority of their hard news stories from the same place everyone else does-from the ex-officio mouthpiece of the DNC known as the Associated Press.
If Fox News was as all-powerful as you dim bulbs seem to think it is, Kerry would have lost the 2004 election by 75 points, and 90 percent of Americans would be Republicans.
Taking your last item first,
March 10, 2007 - 16:19 ET by dahliatraversTaking your last item first, sknabt, what you are saying is, the Nev Dem Party got their feelings hurt so they took their ball and bat and went home? And deprived the voters of a valuable candidate forum. You know, "Politics ain't beanball". If you're that easily bruised, you need to take up a different hobby.
Secondly, for any given week, Newsbusters has lots of examples of all the other major networks' disgraceful coverage of Republican candidates. The latest, for example, is the feigned shock at Newt Gingrich's affair. Isn't that "sexual McCarthyism"? Let us stipulate that sometimes, all of the channels (including Fox) focus on news; sometimes they let their bias show.
Let's see: CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC. The glass is four fifths full, sknabt. The Democrats should be pleased to have captured four major networks, not complaining about the Republicans' one lonely one.
Use your head, sknabt
March 10, 2007 - 21:11 ET by nkviking75sknabt (may I call you "s"?), think about the presidential debates you may have watched in the past. The first big safeguard for the Democrats would have been the fact that the debate would have been broadcast live, which precludes editing by Fox to slant the answers. The second safeguard would have been the live audience which would have witnessed the event. The third safeguard would have been journalists from Nevada media outlets who probably would have been included in the panel. Finally, if these allegedly intelligent, qualified candidates cower from any news organization, their qualifications are suspect at best. As an added benefit, more people may have been drawn to the event to see if a real Democrat debate could happen on Fox News Channel, and to see if there'd be any fireworks.
As I have stated elsewhere, the Dems are passing up a chance to confront their supposed enemy on their air under the most favorable conditions they are likely to get. They are fools.
Viking...You said "They
March 10, 2007 - 21:20 ET by Clear thinkerViking...
You said "They are fools".
Nuff said!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
just a couple of points. th
March 10, 2007 - 22:41 ET by buddycjust a couple of points. there have been two recent studies about the fairness of the media. in both fox news did extremely well. in the ucla/stanford study fox was the most fair and balanced. the rating was based on sourcing "experts" and use of outside research. fox used "experts" and source material from roughly equal liberal think tanks and conservative think tanks.
the next comment is that republicans have learned to live with real unfairness in cnn, msnbc, cbs, nbc and abc. they had to. to try to unify this country you have to speak to those who are your toughest critics. note. bush was recently on cbs and nbc and cheney was on cnn. both have given interviews to david gregory who my marriage, party affiliation and his own words is a strong democratic supporer. 60 minutes, nbc, cnn and gregoary are not exactly friendly venues. obama calls himself "someone who can reach accross party lines'. how is that possible if he won't even appear on fox?
the real problem is not "unfairness" it is dancing on the string of george soros. soros is miffed that fox has explosed his felony record, his support of illegal drugs, his use of offshore tax dodges and other things.. he hates fox. he funds moveon.org and he owns edwards, clinton and obama. he is the one that told them not to go on fox. what will edwards/clinton/obama do when president and soros gives them an order. at one time we were worried kennedy would be directed by the pope. now there is a high probablity that an elected democrat president will take direct orders from george soros. you may think that is ok but when you study his life he is a very very scarry person.
he is the one that told them
March 10, 2007 - 22:52 ET by dahliatravershe is the one that told them not to go on fox.
Is this a hypothesis or do you have a link, buddyc?
Of course they cancelled. It'
March 9, 2007 - 23:03 ET by ThisnThatOf course they cancelled. It's a perfect example of bringing forth all the values expressly cited by this crowd -- justice, fair play, tolerance, inclusion, and sensitivity. Humbug -- hypocrites, all. I wonder if anyone on that side is aware of how transparant they are?
Right, TnT....of course the
March 10, 2007 - 05:44 ET by motherbeltRight, TnT....of course they cancelled and of course they have a good reason:
“Fox is a mouthpiece for the Republican Party, not a legitimate news channel."
They will no doubt have their debate on that mouthpiece for the Democrat party, CNN, which is what they consider "legitimate."
Refuse to debate??
March 10, 2007 - 16:27 ET by misterbillRefuse to debate?? I don't vote for anyone who doesn't let me know where they satnd on the issues.
(God they made it easy for me to vote the other party ticket! Hee hee!)
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
They Were Looking For An Excuse
March 9, 2007 - 23:07 ET by emjem24I wish the Nevada Democratic Party would be really honest about why they actually decided to "cancel" the debate: they caved to far-left pressure by hothead groups such as DailyK and moveon.org. If this wasn't so sad it would be pathetic.
They were looking for an excuse to tuck tail and run where candidates like Johnnie (I'm In Love With My Reflection) Edwards would receive what they perceive as "kinder" press. Oh my god, Roger Ailes made a lame joke about Obama. Get over it. Just like you got over lame jokes made by Bill Mahar and John Kerry.
Here's the truth...I'm beginning to smell fear. The Nevada Democrats decided to cave to pressure by the extreme left-wing and use a lame joke as an excuse to back out of a debate. Democrats can't withstand the scrutiny of actual, critical questions. How do they expect to win the presidency without answering the tough questions?
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
In other words enjem
March 10, 2007 - 05:49 ET by SportPoliticsIn other words enjem:
All Presidential debates are officially cancelled on CNN, since big fat mouthed land owner commie king CEO screeched he is for the Palestinian and Iraqi freedomfighters and against the terrorist GWB.
Yeah, a hot day in heck before the cuckookosobowelmoveonlaments.org team boycotts that.
It just proves that Daily Kos
March 9, 2007 - 23:09 ET by ZoneDaiatlasIt just proves that Daily Kos and the rest of Liberal Moonbats don't believe in "Free Speech" for others that don't share their political viewpoints...
Of course they don't. Just go
March 10, 2007 - 10:38 ET by Del DolemonteOf course they don't. Just go to any of those sites, any time, and see the groupthink that goes on. Especially at Democratic Underground, which uses a "tombstone" to ban anyone who doesn't toe the Reich line.
Remember, theirs is a political philosophy that is supposed to tolerate free speech and divergent opinions. But they don't.
Goebbels would be proud of them.
OMG!What Aisles said last nig
March 9, 2007 - 23:13 ET by bigtimerOMG!
What Aisles said last night was a warning to the leftists...they did not listen or they decided to show him, they have just bought the farm.
I feel so much better now...they are fools.
Fox phobia
March 9, 2007 - 23:14 ET by nkviking75As arrogant as they are, you'd think the libs would like to be Fox on its own air. But as we've seen time and time again, in liberal land, free speech means liberals speak and we're free to agree in silence.
These people are becoming m
March 9, 2007 - 23:18 ET by liberal_bug_zapperThese people are becoming more and more of a joke, and I'm now taking it as a personal responsibility of mine to expose them and make sure that all the liberals I know understand just how hypocritical their side is if it takes until the day I die.
If my mother and father cannot see through this... their granddaughter will never ever see her grandparents... I won't let them. It's time for us to punish those who spout lies and propaganda and who wipe their behinds with our constitution.
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"It is not a field of a few acres of ground, but a cause, that we are defending, and whether we defeat the enemy in one battle, or by degrees, the consequences will be the same." ~ Thomas Paine
Mr. Girly Man or John Edwards
March 9, 2007 - 23:47 ET by ZoneDaiatlasMr. Girly Man or John Edwards posted a message on his blog about the FNC Presidental Debate..
Edwards Campaing: "FOX NEWS has already proven they have no intention of providing 'fair and balanced' coverage of any Democrat in this election"...
http://blog.johnedwards.com/story/2007/3/9/20352/75748
Exactly--the real problem is
March 10, 2007 - 05:48 ET by Andrew H.Exactly--the real problem is that FOX is and would be fair.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
And of course, it's perfectly
March 10, 2007 - 10:41 ET by Del DolemonteAnd of course, it's perfectly OK that CNN recently hired a Hillary Clinton-worshipper to run its political polling. And it's perfectly OK that CBS just hired a 30-year friend of the Clintons to run its news division. Both hires intended to smooth the way for the next President of the United States (or so they hope)
What a bunch of fags!
March 9, 2007 - 23:56 ET by mastersofdeceitWhat a bunch of fags, oh and pusse's.
You know if I was a member of the Democrat Party, I would be walking around with my head down embarrassed at this. Ha ha the pink, laced glove hand of Moveon is bitch slapping the Democrat Party around! I'm loving watching this.
" See that my grave is kept clean. "- Blind Lemon Jefferson
mod...It has been quite delic
March 10, 2007 - 00:01 ET by bigtimermod...
It has been quite delicious hasn't it so far....and to think....more yet to come!
Good to see ya by the way...haven't in awhile.
I now have got to get off this thing....I think.
LOL!
As long as liberals eat their
March 10, 2007 - 00:03 ET by Clear thinkerAs long as liberals eat their own, I'm more than happy to stand back and watch.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Exactly Ct...I may end up tha
March 10, 2007 - 00:07 ET by bigtimerExactly Ct...
I may end up thanking Soros after-all.
LMAO!
I am out of here...night all!
bt...Sleep well!The liberal M
March 10, 2007 - 00:12 ET by Clear thinkerbt...
Sleep well!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Check your pm bt.
March 10, 2007 - 00:16 ET by mastersofdeceitCheck your pm bt.
It really is! If the Democra
March 10, 2007 - 00:02 ET by mostlymoderateIt really is! If the Democrat's don't ditch Moveon it MIGHT be the death of the democratic party as we know it. The Democrats are doing NOTHING that they stood for 50 years ago. I can honestly say that Democrats have been hijacked by the extreme-left, special-interest, communist party.
Welcome to the outside of t
March 10, 2007 - 00:05 ET by liberal_bug_zapperWelcome to the outside of the cave. (obscure Plato reference)
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." ~ Thomas Paine
It really is sad, you know?
March 10, 2007 - 00:23 ET by mostlymoderateIt really is sad, you know? You grow up hearing about how your grandparents were Democrats and you want to follow in their footsteps. However, as soon as you compare what being a democrat meant in 1947 as compared to being a democrat in 2007, the differences are baffling! I honestly believe that if a third party ever had a better chance of emerging (like the libertarians, etc.) it would be right now. Democrats don't know WHAT they stand for anymore.
True mostlymod, maybe there's
March 10, 2007 - 00:05 ET by mastersofdeceitTrue mostlymod, maybe there's still hope who knows.
I think John F. Kennedy was t
March 10, 2007 - 00:19 ET by ZoneDaiatlasI think John F. Kennedy was the last TRUE Democrat elected as President...
I agree. I didn't agree with
March 10, 2007 - 00:26 ET by mostlymoderateI agree. I didn't agree with everything J.F.K. did but I could atleast respect the guy. I also am sure he loved his country. These new democrats are definitely something else altogether.
Even though it was tragic the
March 10, 2007 - 00:03 ET by MidAmericaEven though it was tragic the leftist loonies have been given power from the last election you got to admit the entertainment value they provide is great fun.
The sad part is, Fox has no
March 10, 2007 - 00:31 ET by BlazerThe sad part is, Fox has no desire to do a notorius "conservative hit job" on these candidates, it's all about ratings, and inclusiveness. If I had a message I wanted to get out, I dont' think I could do myself any harm, by getting it out on the most watched news network. The liberals once again shoot themselves in the foot on this one.
I mean after all, what is a politician really but a salesman? Sometimes people, are undecided, and on the fence, and it is the skills, of an astute orator,that gets the customer to purchase what thier selling. All the better if it comes from a platform that reaches many more millions right?
But no need to worry about fielding any tough questions DNC, because you have all the votes you need already , with a ribbon, already wrapped up, just like in 2000', and 2004' correct? What arrogance, what pompousness!
John Edwards is right about his "two Americas", one for Liberals, and one for Conservatives, and his recent example comes brilliantly shining through. If you want to hit softballs John, you should have had a diamond built right next to that monstrosity of a mansion you just put up.
In alienating FNC, and Conservatives with such biased, and unfounded accusations, they are consistantly proving there is a "Liberal Media", and they will only work in concert with thier favorite mouthpieces. Or as I like to call it , "Party Television".
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
Brilliant post, Blazer! It ju
March 10, 2007 - 09:20 ET by HypocriteHaterBrilliant post, Blazer! It just goes to show the libs have no confidence in their ideas if they're worried about getting tripped up by Fox News. Like any good standup comedian, you prepare yourself for the hecklers so you don't look like an idiot on stage. That's how you gather respect from the audience. But like you said, why should they run the risk of looking like morons, when they could easily go to CNN, et al to get softballs lobbed at them.
Of course they're afraid of b
March 10, 2007 - 10:44 ET by Del DolemonteOf course they're afraid of being tripped up by Fox News. Even before Bill Clinton's famous meltdown with Chris Wallace, Hillary would only be interviewed on Fox by Greta, who of course is a former CNN mouthpiece. And most of the other Dem heavy hitters refuse to go on the network at all.
To misqoute a fellow Dem FDR
March 10, 2007 - 01:38 ET by Dan The Man 2To misqoute a fellow Dem FDR, for Dummicrats " We have nothing to fear but fair itself."
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Fox should go-on with the d
March 10, 2007 - 06:06 ET by sarcasmoFox should go-on with the debate, complete with labeled empty chairs for any & all non-attendees and a brief explanation of their whine about Fox up-front. If they do, it might even be an opportunity for voters to hear from lesser-known Democrats and Republicans. (IOW, non-northeastern-RINO Presidential candidates who aren't promoted by a manipulative, biased news media because they seem to actually -- as opposed to rhetorically -- support smaller government!). Of course, this suggestion assumes Fox isn't also pushing-for the northeastern-RINO candidates like the rest of the news-media seems to be at this point, and that's far from certain, at best...And considering how-poorly the media's covering allegedly "fringe" Republican candidates, it's quite likely they're studiously-ignoring an interesting Democrat or 2.
JMR
LOL, how about adding this tw
March 10, 2007 - 18:50 ET by Del DolemonteLOL, how about adding this twist-putting an empty suit in each empty chair?
Democrats are showing that th
March 10, 2007 - 06:42 ET by Dave659Democrats are showing that they are afraid to brook anything other than an admiring media. As they've become weak on ideas, they've shirked debate, relying instead on stigmatizing the right. Unfortunately, they have been somewhat successful in doing this to Fox News, portraying it as extreme and beyond the pale. Many people who never even watch Fox have the idea that it's somehow illegitimate. One can only hope that this latest move by the Democrats will be transparent and damaging.
Reading the comments on thi
March 10, 2007 - 07:11 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsReading the comments on this, I see most think this is funny or think it will open the eyes of others, but I see this as an ominous portend of the future. The recent elections were influenced by the left, now the left is having an even greater influence on the upcoming presidential election, and on whose voice can be heard.
First, read your history about the left (or read some of Oriana Fallaci's recent works). The left in the past has gained great power by silencing opposing voices. Look at the 20th century and see what the left gave us:
The Russian Revolution - millions dead or enslaved
Mussolini - millions dead or enslaved
Hitler - millions dead or enslaved
Pol Pot - millions dead or enslaved
Just to name a few.
Here in America we have many who get their news from leftist sources, or ignore the political news of the day. These people will only hear what the left is saying, as the left controls the MSM. For a major political party to attempt to silence a single, respected news source, because it doesn't agree with the left's perspective, is a very dangerous precedent. I think we are headed into a very dark place, and I hope I am wrong.
A day without NewsBusters is like a day without sunshine.
DFtT - you are absolutely c
March 10, 2007 - 08:19 ET by mytwocentsDFtT - you are absolutely correct. We have entered a particularly dark time in our history. Years and years of liberal endoctrination by the public "education" system has created the current class of "teachers" and "journalists" who continue the trend. Fair and balanced news reporting to liberals means constant bashing of anyone or anything conservative and ignoring basic journalistic principles. The brain washing will continue ....
The Dhimmitude Dems cannot
March 10, 2007 - 07:53 ET by daveinbocaThe Dhimmitude Dems cannot sell their absurdities in the marketplace of ideas, so they want to quell debate and totalitarianize their message. The Castro syndrome is starting to capture the party, and soon other hairdos like the Silk Pony Breck girl will follow the lemming horde over the cliff.
A well-organized splinter-minority calling themselves a "majority" is how the Bolsheviks captured the Comintern back in the 19th century. Soros and Co. want to marginalize FoxNEWS and talk-radio through mau-mauing and legal jiggery-pokery.
How much you wanna bet that i
March 10, 2007 - 08:16 ET by midnight cowboyHow much you wanna bet that if Al Jazeera offers to sponsor a debate, the wus dems would jump at the opportunity.
The republican primary winner has just been given gift for the general campaign TV spot. Something to the effect of intro dem wimps complaining, whining and crying that Fox is not fair to them. Cut to close ups of Mahmood, Kim Jung (mentally) Ill, Putin, Assad, Bin Laden, et al with footage of the their human rights abuses, assassinations, torture, and voice over "but they expect these guys to play nice", "today's democrats........" Cut to King Arthur's knights from Monty Python, "Run Away, Run Away."
Is it me or is John Edwards' campaign the "victim campaign?"
March 10, 2007 - 08:20 ET by kahoonaIs it me or is John Edwards' campaign the "victim campaign?"
Ann Coulter calls out Edwards for being a wuss by using an unfortunate word... The Edwards campaign launches a fundraising effort. "Give me money and vote for me because I am the victim of a bad word!"
Now, the Edwards campaign is claiming victimhood (and asking for money and votes) around the FNC debates in Arizona.
What's next? "That lady in the front row looked at me funny! Give me some more money!"
Does anyone in that campaign realize they are supporting a candidate for "victim-in-chief?"
kahoona -- That's how the m
March 10, 2007 - 10:16 ET by dervishkahoona -- That's how the man made his millions, skimming from the money he brought in for victims (real or, if necessary, manufactured). It's the only thing he knows how to do.
It's a calculated strategy to
March 10, 2007 - 08:38 ET by jdhawkIt's a calculated strategy to win in 2008. First of all, it's too early in the race to have to actually talk about issues. This phase is about destroying your opponent - yours and/or theirs - theirs most definitely. '
Then, when you absolutely have to get pinned down on the issues you opt for a debate. And, then, only on the most favorable grounds that you can get.
Hey, the politics of personal destruction worked in the 2006 election cycle. Name the issues that Pelosi said she wanted to address in the first 100 hours of Congress and tell me that they were adequately covered in the campaigns - if at all. It just didn't happen.
We, the people, let the dims get away with it. In fact, the most successful dims pretended to be conservative to get elected. Meanwhile all our guys could do is react to the personal destruction phase - right up to election night!
Let's face it. Our guys lost the 2006 elections by not telling the American people that they stood for conservative values. So far, it's more of the same . . .
The tightly organized agitp
March 10, 2007 - 14:35 ET by daveinbocaThe tightly organized agitpreppies of the Dhimmitude ultra-leftardos are racing to the bottom and like an anchor, dragging the whole gaggle of Democratic Prez contenders underwater to feed on the detritus of worn-out socialist cliches.
The Republicans need a leader in front of their ticket. Giuliani has proven he can handle an insane political mess, when he was NYC mayor, and that's why instinctive politicos are backing him rather than state govs or senators.