CNSNews.com managing editor Patrick Goodenough has a new column reporting that some of the most visible far-left sites attacking Ann Coulter for making a failed "faggot" joke about John Edwards have used their new F-word themselves: "Daily Kos postings have included the word 'faggot' at least three times in recent years, as have other liberal blogs -- without apology, and without generating a furor."
Among the offending bloggers were Melissa McEwan and Amanda Marcotte, the two Christian-bashing bloggers who were hired by John Edwards and then slowly disappeared from his staff. Patrick also found:
Homosexual-rights groups employ a double standard too, it appears.
In its response to Coulter's remarks last Friday, GLAAD not only slammed the author but accused CPAC itself of promoting "discriminatory policies," and GLAAD president Neil Giuliano called on media organizations -- NBC News in particular -- to stop offering Coulter a platform.
Three years ago, however, GLAAD took a rather different approach when rapper 50 Cent told Playboy magazine, "I ain't into faggots ... We refer to gay people as faggots, as homos. It could be disrespectful, but that's the facts."
In that instance, GLAAD responded with a polite -- almost respectful -- press release expressing "concern" about the comments, and inviting 50 Cent to attend GLAAD's annual media awards.
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Love it; covers all the bases
March 9, 2007 - 16:21 ET by tracheostomyLove it; covers all the bases. Thumbs up. The McEwan/Marcotte connection is just icing on the cake.
Don't just take Tim's blog at face value. Read the article! The list is far more impressive (and entertaining to boot) than what Tim alluded to here.
Any libs care to rehash the debate?
-PJ
"I'm not a theologist. I'm not an archaeologist. I'm a documentary filmmaker." -James Cameron
Oh Tim this is priceless...at
March 9, 2007 - 16:27 ET by bigtimerOh Tim this is priceless...at least .50 Cent Worth...LOL!
Talk about hypocrisy!
Come on trolls come out and play, defend this....you were all over the place on this...
Pot calling kettle!
It's indefensible. Who eve
March 9, 2007 - 16:36 ET by Rupert CadellIt's indefensible. Who ever said that a couple of Daily Kos posters with too much time on their hands or some lame rapper who can't even rap well and trades on his disgraceful image, were any more above reproach than Coulter? I don't care what the MsM does, I'll condemn their remarks as quickly as I did Ann's
Nice try, Rup
March 9, 2007 - 18:05 ET by RJNice try at minimizing the hypocritical behavior of the leftists, Rup. But it's hardly limited to "a couple of Daily Kos posters with too much time on their hands." The left's double standard is alive and well, and even has a double-double standard.
"Among the offending bloggers were Melissa McEwan and Amanda Marcotte, the two Christian-bashing bloggers who were hired by John Edwards and then slowly disappeared from his staff."
I don't ascribe their behav
March 9, 2007 - 18:22 ET by Rupert CadellI don't ascribe their behavior to the left as a whole any more than I ascribe Coulter's to the right as a whole. Never did I say this week that conservatives should be ashamed. I'm not even personally offended by Ann's comments, I just think they're yet another instance of her attempt to buttress her lack of insight with attempts at Andrew Dice Clayish humor. Her column does this week after week and it's not a specific word I find offensive, but the fact that she could possibly be taken seriously.
But again, I don't think she's indicative of conservative ideology. And I don't think 50 Cent (!), and some bad hires by Edwards are indicative of anything about liberal ideology. Their actions are their own responsibility.
Wow, I almost sound like a conservative!
Careful, Rup
March 9, 2007 - 18:36 ET by RJCareful, there, Rup. You're sounding nearly logical.
In any event, deliberately or not, your initial post did try to minimize the two-faced behavior that the article described.
If you say so RJ....but I d
March 9, 2007 - 18:45 ET by Rupert CadellIf you say so RJ....but I did call the leftist's comments "indefensible" and dismissed the MsM, so......
True, you did
March 9, 2007 - 19:00 ET by RJTrue, you did.
I think where Tim and Patri
March 9, 2007 - 20:38 ET by liberal_bug_zapperI think where Tim and Patrick are trying to shine a light is that when all these other uses were happening, no one was making a peep. You'll find no stories and no outrage. Even when someone was questioning the 'faggot' jokes on the Daily Kos, they just said they had to do a bunch of double takes... but when they saw the URL and the orange color, everything was ok.
Those same groups and people are the ones today fanning the flames of mock outrage.... and not because they're really outraged, as it is obvious that they would have reacted long before Ann's remark, no, they're showing outrage for only one reason... politics.
Another thing that you on the left do not seem to understand is that if you don't like what she says... don't listen. I don't like what those idiots on the Daily KOS write, so if I go there and start getting offended, I don't complain... that would be stupid. Seriously Rupert, if I come to your house, and offend you... this is about the only time you should be able to do something about shutting me up. But in all other instances, what right do you have to demand someone else give up their right of free speech?
This is another reason why I totally support the right for Rappers to sell albums about killing cops and calling women whores. And also why I support the right for children to buy these albums. Governments stepping in and forcing them to stop is the government making a law abridging free speech. That is the job for parents. As an addendum to what I just said... I really dislike rap music, and I find the lyrics disgusting. I also will search my daughters room for anything I find disgusting and burn it. I do not believe children have any rights that their parents do not give them.
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"A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." ~ Thomas Paine
How many conservative sites a
March 9, 2007 - 16:31 ET by JDWHow many conservative sites are hacked? When the dems do so, what are they calling us?
JDW
Wounded skier, beware of mistakes.
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
Well of course they were po
March 9, 2007 - 16:37 ET by balboaWell of course they were polite and respectful with "Fitty"; They didn't want to get shot.
What, you don't think Anns'
March 9, 2007 - 17:04 ET by MightyMouthWhat, you don't think Anns' packin?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Not sure she has the arm st
March 9, 2007 - 17:21 ET by balboaNot sure she has the arm strength to hold the gun up.
Well according to some le
March 9, 2007 - 17:41 ET by MightyMouthWell according to some lefty whackjobs shes got plenty of muscle
And curse you for making me find that link!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Classic!Still don't think con
March 9, 2007 - 16:43 ET by rbchaffeClassic!
Still don't think conservatives (assuming Anne is one) should stoop to their level, though.
What kills me is the libera
March 9, 2007 - 17:05 ET by The Wicked ConservativeWhat kills me is the liberal line about holding conservatives to a higher standard. That's how they justify Libby vs Clinton or Coulter vs Maher. Apparently they've deduced that they can do anything they want and we can do NOTHING, because we hold the moral high ground. While I agree we should take the high road that does not mean libs can get away with perjury and everything else.
Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realizes that it bears a very close resemblence to the first.
- Ronald Reagan
It's the oldest Liberal tac
March 9, 2007 - 18:01 ET by motherbeltIt's the oldest Liberal tactic in the book: If you don't have any standards, you can't be called a hypocrite fro violating them.
I read the Kos links...you gu
March 9, 2007 - 17:40 ET by blarsenI read the Kos links...you guys just don't get it do you? Am I going to have to start calling everyone here a faggot again? When mAnn Coulter called John Edwards a faggot, the republicans thought it was hilarious, and Coulter was a "comedian", until I started using her brand of humor and surprise, surprise...all of a sudden everybody is OFFENDED and the offending word is removed.
The context on Kos wasn't aimed at anyone specific, least of all a republican.
Uh, why on earth would you
March 9, 2007 - 17:46 ET by MightyMouthUh, why on earth would you call everyone here a faggot?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Blarsen you don't get it.
March 9, 2007 - 18:01 ET by Dee BunkBlarsen you don't get it. Ann Coulter was making a joke because of the Grey's Anatomy star having to go into therapy for using the word and that is the only reason she used it. If he had to go into therapy for calling someone fat, she would have probably made the joke calling Hillary fat or something. There is no way anyone could have thought she really thought that Edwards was Gay.
There is no way that the KOS articles were that inoccuous and I don't even have to read them to know that.
Good points, Dee
March 9, 2007 - 18:26 ET by RJGoodpoints, Dee. The blatant hypocricy of the left constantly astounds me.
They make crude and cruel jokes almost daily about conservative politicans, conservatives in general and even the most holy of religious icons, and there's not a whimper from the left, including the media. We are constantly told to suck it up and develop a sense of humor.
But the sensitive little darlings are shocked every time a joke is make back in their direction.
Pah. I spit on their phony outrage.
Hi Dee...long time no see...B
March 9, 2007 - 20:33 ET by bigtimerHi Dee...long time no see...
Blars intentionally doesn't get it.
He is a troll...that's what they do.
LMAO!
Hello RJ an BT! Long time
March 10, 2007 - 12:08 ET by Dee BunkHello RJ an BT! Long time no see for both of you. Sorry I missed you guys Friday.
MiG-15s
March 9, 2007 - 22:48 ET by UnsaneWhy do you like the MiG-15 so much, commie?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
attacks
March 9, 2007 - 17:56 ET by m1xramI wonder if the "free speech" crowd is doing a DOS attack. I can ping anncoulter.com but can't pull a webpage.
I had trouble getting there t
March 9, 2007 - 18:06 ET by LonevoiceI had trouble getting there too(at least from the Drudge link), so you may be right. I got thru by following the links from JWR.
If it ain't a baby, you ain't pregnant....
Let's contrast the reaction
March 9, 2007 - 18:19 ET by motherbeltLet's contrast the reaction
To 50 Cent: GLADD "expresses concern over 50 Cent's comments"
To Coulter:
“Ann Coulter’s use of this anti-gay slur is vile and unacceptable,”
You have to keep reading the 50 Cent press release to find out that his mother was a bisexual; could this account for the "kid gloves" treatment? You know, the child of "one of their own" deserves a break?
Will & Grace, that fav
March 9, 2007 - 20:54 ET by Jack BauerWill & Grace, that fave lib***al sitcom of the homosexual persuasion... here's a few lines..
Rosario: Hold on Francis Ford Fagola.
Will: Ohh look, it's the Notorious FAG.
Will: Thank you, Homo-wan Kenobi.
Karen: Anyone homo?
Jack: I am. I am.
Karen: Why wasn't I your girlfriend, queerbait?
Karen: Oh, my God. She just asked a Fairy an engine question. We're all gonna die in this car.
Kind of a different context,
March 9, 2007 - 21:41 ET by balboaKind of a different context, isn't it?
Yes Bal... liberals were ut
March 10, 2007 - 00:12 ET by liberal_bug_zapperYes Bal... liberals were uttering those words. It's always ok when liberals utter those words.... with the exception of the writers of South Park who bash everyone equally... so liberals do their best to ignore them.
Actually, on a philosophical level, I agree with much of what Matt and Trey have to say. I agree with them on free speech as it is equally applied from them, and I love their quote;
"I hate conservatives, but I really ... hate liberals."
Now, I don't hate conservatives, I save that ire for Republicans, but I do hate liberals as they stand for everything I stand against, mainly, the enslavement of the human race. Taxes and welfare and other causes I don't care for, are just another form of indentured servitude.
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" But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants is the liberty of appearing." ~ Thomas Paine
I didn't say it's always OK f
March 10, 2007 - 00:19 ET by balboaI didn't say it's always OK for liberals to say those words. I said it's not the same context.
I believe you're really not s
March 10, 2007 - 00:24 ET by ThisnThatI believe you're really not saying much of anything. As usual.
As opposed to your tremendous
March 10, 2007 - 00:50 ET by balboaAs opposed to your tremendous input?
So if Ann Coulter was gay,
March 10, 2007 - 03:14 ET by liberal_bug_zapperSo if Ann Coulter was gay, it would be ok for her to call John Edwards a faggot?
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
When I read that I was inst
March 10, 2007 - 08:06 ET by sarcasmoWhen I read that I was instantly thinking, "this, if it were to happen, is probably Camille Paglia's greatest sexual fantasy ever!" :) And everyone here (well, every Republican) should IMO be very thankful Ken Mehlman wasn't a Democrat, because his great performance for your party prevented a far-worse defeat last election.
JMR
Nuance
March 10, 2007 - 19:41 ET by gfrrmanBal, it's always a nuance of context with you pathetic, hypocritical, bedwetting,whining, crybaby libs.....or "botched joke".
Wow. I was afraid you wouldn'
March 10, 2007 - 19:52 ET by balboaWow. I was afraid you wouldn't be able to cram enough insults, generalizations, and pointlessness into that last post.
I was wrong.
Fags & Grace
March 10, 2007 - 06:25 ET by Jack BauerI thought the context was using a popular euphemism for homosexuals in an allegedly "derogatory" manner?
So, to answer your question, no it's exactly the same context.
And from my POV, it's equally valid for the overwhelmingly lib***l/democrat supporting writers of W&G to use "fags, et al," as a punchline as it is for the conservative writer Ann Coulter.
Though I have to admit that in this case of faggots, the sitcom writers have the funnier lines.
No, the context is one is a s
March 10, 2007 - 13:23 ET by balboaNo, the context is one is a sitcom with two gay characters, and the other is a conservative pundit at a conference trying to get laughs.
For instance, I'm not going to compare a character on 24 saying "we need to kill the vice president" to what Maher said on his show.
So...
March 10, 2007 - 19:01 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasSo, it's okay to call someone a "faggot" or "nigger" depending on the context...ah...okay...got it milktoast....thanks balbozo. NEXT!
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Shhhhh.
March 10, 2007 - 19:28 ET by balboaShhhhh.
The fu$%ing hypocrisy, of t
March 9, 2007 - 21:23 ET by BlazerThe fu$%ing hypocrisy, of that Amanda fu$%ing Marcotte doesn't fu$%ing surprise me in the fu$%ing least. Because if she were to rid her posts of all vulgarity , then there would be little else for her to say.
She is a total waste of her daddy's college money, since it is evident she doesn't seem to have much knowledge of the english language other than using expletives to emphasise her points, what ever they are. She is a total vexation on the soul.
When the whole Edwards blogger thing dropped I ventured over to Paragon to see what this little trollop was about. After viewing several of her posts I felt the need to take twenty showers. I felt verbally violated. She should change her name to Amanda Dice Clay.
Not surprising she would use the word "faggot" in the least, since this is a derogatory term for a man that likes, other men, and she hates all men, even homosexuals. She sounds like Hitler, only not as creative, in trying to endear everyone to her facist brand of feminism.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
Blazer...I love your post, es
March 9, 2007 - 21:33 ET by bigtimerBlazer...
I love your post, especially the Amanda Dice Clay!
Well said!
Trollops
March 9, 2007 - 21:44 ET by BlondeBlazer,
Anyone who uses the word "trollop", anywhere, anytime....is a genius in my book!
Excellent post.
Thanks for the grin.... :)
Thanks bigtimer, and blonde f
March 9, 2007 - 21:59 ET by BlazerThanks bigtimer, and blonde for your compliments. The word trollop is a very fitting word to describe Marcotte, and friends, since the first five letters of it spell troll.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
Blazer,Excellent!I'd not even
March 9, 2007 - 22:10 ET by BlondeBlazer,
Excellent!
I'd not even considered the "troll" thing.
Have you ever read Trollope? Funny...and political...although in a bygone century. But bitingly funny and satirical.
I'm going to have to start using the word "trollop". I love to confuse my co-workers...and "trollop" is just perfect.
Thanks again for the reminder!
Best thing I've read all week, blazer.
I take it your co-workers are
March 9, 2007 - 22:26 ET by BlazerI take it your co-workers are then liberals? You can start with using mundane words with them like trollop, but I find it is best to start off slow, and acclimate them to the bigger, more obscure words of the English language.
I find that if you cereberally overload them too much at once, thier heads explode like in that Scanners movie.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
<some of the most visibl
March 10, 2007 - 00:30 ET by Howard_Beale<some of the most visible far-left sites attacking Ann Coulter for making a failed "faggot" joke about John Edwards>
Who said it failed? I saw a clip of her making the remark, and the crowd loved it.
BTW, the Patrick Goodenough
March 10, 2007 - 00:54 ET by Howard_BealeBTW, the Patrick Goodenough column linked to pdf screen captures which did not include the complete columns, even though all three were short.
So I'm putting the real links here.
1) Is by a gay activist protesting the Democratic Party's alleged lack of support for gay rights.
2) Is over four years old, doesn't make a lick of sense, and seems to be the only thing the diarist ever posted on Kos.
3) Is protesting what the diarist says are insensitive remarks about gays on the site.