Merrill Goozner at the leftie Center for Science in the Public Interest (as opposed to the Center for Objective Science, presumably) went to the equally-leftie Guardian in Britain to argue in favor of expanding the insolvent U.S. Medicare system to cover uninsured people.
Goozner's column focused on 12-year-old Deamonte Driver of Prince George's County, MD, who died as a result of an untreated tooth infection. The left has been using Driver's death, not terribly convincingly (given the facts of the case), as an argument-by-acecdote in favor of socialized medicine.
What Goozer should have forseen, had he not been blinded by his liberal ideology, is the type of comments his online commentary in favor of government medicine would receive when published in a nation, Britain, that has suffered under government medicine for decades now.
Read Goozer's column alone and you are left with one impression. Read the public's comments underneath, and you wouldn't go near a government-run health care system if it were free (literally free, that is).
One commenter, for instance, points out the story of five-year-old Finn McEwan-Paterson in Wilmslow, England, who was suffering through great pain with a tooth abscess (the same condition that led to the death of Deamonte Driver). Finn's mother was told he would have to wait six months for a simple tooth extraction under Britain's National Health Service. After doing everything possible to get the waiting line shortened, including begging the NHS to ease her son's suffering, she got the wait cut down -- to 13 weeks.
Another commenter quoted from a letter in the British Dental Journal (2006):
Sir, I am writing to report an alarming increase in the number of patients presenting to oral and maxillofacial surgery services with dental sepsis requiring admission for incision and drainage under general anaesthesia. Anecdotally the numbers appeared to be increasing, therefore the numbers presenting to Hull Royal Infirmary in 1999 and in 2004 were audited.The number of patients presenting with dental sepsis on an emergency basis increased from 17 in 1999 to 25 in 2004 (patients from Hull postcode area only). Patients treated under local anaesthesia or with cellulitis were excluded from the audit. While the figures may not seem large, in percentage terms this represents a 47% increase...
Another commenter wrote:
The article takes a singular event and extrapolates from it that America's health care system is broken. Tell that to all those Canadians who come to America for operations that they would have no wait for in Canada's vaunted socialized medicine. Tell that to all those Canadian doctors who are emigrating to America to earn a better living...
The Guardian closed comments on Goozner's post after three days. It says that's its standard policy.



















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I can definitely vouch for
March 4, 2007 - 02:34 ET by DyneI can definitely vouch for how much the Canadian system sucks. My fiance is Canadian, injured her knee to a point that required surgery, had to wait for 6 months, and during that time she wasn't able to find a job or be productive because of the pain. Without a stream of income for her, I dread to think about what would have happened to her had she not been living at home.
Not only that, but the system is still selective on what it treats. She also needs surgery done on her jaw for a condition that she's had since birth. All of the specialists agreed that the best thing was for her to have this surgery, but the government denied it. To this day the complications from that condition make it hard for her to eat certain foods.
"And [Moroni] called it the Title of Liberty" - Alma 46:13
Thanks for this. I believe t
March 4, 2007 - 23:29 ET by Amy RidenourThanks for this. I believe the more Americans know the dangerous of government medicine, the less likely they will be to embrace it.
You may find another link of interest from those posted by commentaers to the Guardian article: http://www.thestar.c...
It is interesting that the MSM falls all over itself to complain about the care and facilities at Walter Reed Army Hospital, but almost in the same breath will advocate increasing the government's role in what remains of private care in the U.S. Military medicine IS government medicine!
AR, your last paragraph is co
March 4, 2007 - 23:42 ET by gfrrmanAR, your last paragraph is completely lost to those on the left. It's the thought that counts to them....NOT the outcome!!!
Feelings are more important t
March 5, 2007 - 00:24 ET by Amy RidenourFeelings are more important than anything -- even access to quality health care, apparently.
Dangerous.
Great blog on health care A
March 4, 2007 - 10:39 ET by Dee BunkGreat blog on health care Amy. Isn't it funny, yet again the liberals have to go searching high and low for unusual cases to make a conservative policy look bad whereas people flock to them with stories of liberal failures and they still don't report them?
Isn't the real story here how the 12 yr old was given $100's of thousands in treatment even though his family couldn't pay for it? I thought uninsured poor people didn't get health care in the U.S.? I guess that part can't penetrate his brainwashed mind.
The bottom line is - under either type of health care system, something like this can happen. The difference is it can happen to anyone in a public health care system but it could only happen to a small fraction of uninsured people here (even most poor people could come up with $80 for the initial treatment). In the public health care system it could happen to anyone no matter how financially responsible they were. The only people immune would be the politically connected.
I agree -- even here in the U
March 5, 2007 - 00:21 ET by Amy RidenourI agree -- even here in the U.S. we hear stories of folks in nationalized medicine countries who had to call a friend of a friend to even get seen by a specialist (not necessarily a treatment) after receiving a diagnosis of something life-threatening like cancer.
However, sometimes even the politically-connected gt the shaft in those countries. If you will pardon me hyping my own blog, a few minutes ago I published a post there entitled "Even Labour Party MPs Can't Get Needed Health Services in Britain." The title pretty much explains it.