It seems likely given the focus the media gave Ann Coulter's remark about John Edwards that most NewsBusters readers know the controversial, never at a loss for words writer spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C., this past Friday.
For those that couldn't attend, our friend Ms Underestimated has the videos of Ann's speech and Q&A session here and here.
The comment getting all the media focus is about halfway through the first segment. However, do stick around for the Q&A, for in a lot of respects, it's actually better than her prepared speech.
Have fun.
FYI: Ms U also has a video of Duncan Hunter's words at the conference here.
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Oh Noel,Thank you!For those t
March 3, 2007 - 17:06 ET by bigtimerOh Noel,
Thank you!
For those that haven't seen the whole thing, and have time on a Saturday afternoon, it is well worth it!
Btw...I have checked on and off and C-Span is not re-airing it like I thought they would today, maybe later, all I know is the will re-air some leftist march on the mall or Tavis Smiley show over and over until you want to scream if you are trying to catch some other hearing or show you may have missed.
So thanks again Noel!.
BT
March 3, 2007 - 17:09 ET by Noel SheppardBT,
My pleasure. I figured most people probably hadn't seen this entire speech. As usual, the media only focused on one sentence.
Of course, there's plenty of other remarks in here to incite liberal ire! ns
Noel,You got that right!Watch
March 3, 2007 - 17:17 ET by bigtimerNoel,
You got that right!
Watch it those of you on the left!
You will adore it!
I already know the right will.
Comments ought to be rich....lol!
Noel, I see you added the Hun
March 4, 2007 - 21:50 ET by bigtimerNoel,
I see you added the Hunter video too today...another great big thanks...I really enjoyed listening to every word of it!
Much appreciated.
Thompson/Hunter...
I can dream....
Well, I can certainly see w
March 3, 2007 - 17:18 ET by motherbeltWell, I can certainly see why the Libs have their bloomers in a wad. It's OK to call people Nazis and murderers, but "faggot" is beyond the pale. Tell me, if being homosexual is OK, then why is "faggot", considered an insult? Plenty of "gay" people call themselves "queer", which used to be a derogatory term. Now it's fashionable, as in "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy."
Anyway, when are the Democrats going to quit calling for the entire Republican establishment to denounce and disavow and condemn every single sentence by any conservative anywhere, that they find "offensive"? How about calling on all the Democrat candidates to denounce "Democratic Underground", one of the most vicious websites anywhere? I'm sure they will say that they can't be responsible for everyone; but they expect Republican leaders take responsibility for everything they don't like.
Link is gone but in 2004, w
March 3, 2007 - 17:22 ET by JDWLink is gone but in 2004, while campaigning, Edwards said he opposed gay marriage. He was not on their side then nor does he desire to be associated with them today.
Obviously he is not able to attack Coulter's children.
JDW
Wounded skier, beware of mistakes.
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
Here's a perfect opportunit
March 3, 2007 - 17:24 ET by motherbeltHere's a perfect opportunity for the Democrats to show what they're made of. Some prominent Republican should call on every Democratic candidate to denounce Bill Maher for saying Arianna Huffington should have left on her website the comments saying that it was too bad the bomb missed VP Dick Cheney. Is "faggot" worse than wishing someone dead?
And of course, this will get
March 3, 2007 - 17:32 ET by winston smithAnd of course, this will get 100 times more coverage than Rosie O'Donnell's "ching-chong! ching-chong!" Chinese slur, or Senator Biden's "Ya know ya just can't walk into a 7-11 anymore without being an Indian.", or Michael Richards: "A n gger! Look there's a n gger!!" or of course, Hillary's famous: "F'ing Jew Bas____!!" Statements by celebrities and liberal politicians completely ignored or quickly swept under the rug by the MSM. Maybe Ann should ironicly claim it was all just "a botched joke".
You left one out-Democrat Par
March 3, 2007 - 18:04 ET by Del DolemonteYou left one out-Democrat Party senior statesman Robert Byrd using the "N" word on live network television a few years back. He got a pass, of course...
And if I'm not mistaken, af
March 3, 2007 - 19:09 ET by motherbeltAnd if I'm not mistaken, after he said it, instead of backtracking or apologizing, he said Yes, I'm going to use that word. Or something similar, making it plain that he meant it and wasn't retracting it.
Robert "KKK" Byrd of West by God Virginia
March 5, 2007 - 06:49 ET by Mr. TerryThat would be Robert "KKK" Byrd you are referring to Del?
Q&A Says More on Homosexuals
March 3, 2007 - 17:36 ET by Paul DetrickCoulter may have used the word 'faggot' but she does point out in the Q&A, "Well, screw you. I'm not anti-gay".
"We're against gay marriage. I don't want gays to be discriminated against...In addtion to blacks, I don't know why all gays aren't Republicans. I think we have the pro-gay position, which is anti-crime and is for tax cuts. Gays make a lot of money and they're victims of crime...They should be with us."
PD...Exactly!People need to l
March 3, 2007 - 17:46 ET by bigtimerPD...
Exactly!
People need to listen to the whole thing.
Listen.
Well as long as she said she'
March 3, 2007 - 17:47 ET by balboaWell as long as she said she's not anti-gay, that makes it OK then...
boa..Just curious, have you l
March 3, 2007 - 17:51 ET by bigtimerboa..
Just curious, have you listened to this?
I will leave that up to PD to answer your question....you just can't help yourself can ya?
LOL!
You guys think Maher's commen
March 3, 2007 - 17:53 ET by balboaYou guys think Maher's comment was advocated for Cheney's death. The left will see Coulter's as just another example of her nonsense. It's a stalemate!
P.S. I'm gonna listen to it now...but I'm afraid it will suck the lifeforce out of me, keeping Ann perpetually young for eternity.
So we can officially add CDS
March 3, 2007 - 18:16 ET by Roger the ShrubberSo we can officially add CDS (Coulter Derangement Syndrome) alongside of ODS (O'Reilly Derangement Syndrome) to the list of Balboa's ailments. I could probably safely assume that Bal suffers, ultimately, from ECDS (Every-Conservative Derangement Syndrome).
More like PDS (pundit derange
March 3, 2007 - 18:20 ET by balboaMore like PDS (pundit derangement syndrome).
I actually thought some of Annie's lines were very funny. But just as you guys don't like Stewart for the smarm factor, same with Ann.
Well, thankfully, John Stewar
March 3, 2007 - 18:26 ET by Roger the ShrubberWell, thankfully, John Stewart repulses you as much as BoR and Coulter. Whew.
For a second there, I was worried you weren't being consistent.
Stewart's not a pundit.
March 3, 2007 - 18:30 ET by balboaStewart's not a pundit.
Balboa
March 3, 2007 - 18:32 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Neither is O'Reilly. ns
Noel
March 3, 2007 - 18:35 ET by balboaVery true. He's just a gasbag. :-)
Dude, you're getting spanked
March 3, 2007 - 18:38 ET by Roger the ShrubberDude, you're getting spanked at will on this thread today. You came to this gunfight armed with a can opener. Call it a day, Bal.
"getting spanked"? It's just
March 3, 2007 - 21:24 ET by balboa"getting spanked"?
It's just a conversation. We're not keeping score.
I thought we were debating. M
March 3, 2007 - 22:04 ET by Roger the ShrubberI thought we were debating. My mistake.
We are. But I don't think any
March 3, 2007 - 22:11 ET by balboaWe are. But I don't think anyone's "spanking" me.
Of course you don't, Bal.Shee
March 3, 2007 - 22:14 ET by BlondeOf course you don't, Bal.
Sheesh. Laughing.
Sneezing.
March 3, 2007 - 22:24 ET by balboaSneezing.
Sorry, Bal.Not your style at
March 3, 2007 - 22:36 ET by BlondeSorry, Bal.
Not your style at all.
BTW...reading the new Hiaasen book...Nature Girl....verdict is still out.
Nature Girl...I dunno. I like
March 3, 2007 - 22:43 ET by balboaNature Girl...I dunno. I liked some of the characters, but...seemed fragmented somehow. Still enjoyed reading it.
You said were weren't having
March 4, 2007 - 09:48 ET by Roger the ShrubberYou said were weren't having a debate, now you say we are?
Make up your mind.
But then again, Stewart is an
March 3, 2007 - 22:11 ET by The FugitiveBut then again, Stewart is an ASSHOLE, and he's very good at it too. :-)
Why is it that EVERYTIME a liberal opens their mouth, I feel a sudden urge to hand them a roll of toilet paper?
What do you consider O'Reil
March 9, 2007 - 11:53 ET by WhichWingWhat do you consider O'Reilly to be if not a pundit? And for the sake of your credibility, I hope you don't say journalist.
If it wasn't for O'Reilly,
March 9, 2007 - 12:08 ET by MightyMouthIf it wasn't for O'Reilly, who would watch out for the "folks"? He may not be a "Journalist" but he is at least "journalish".
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
balbozo...
March 3, 2007 - 18:41 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasYou've spent so much time sweeping up bu!!sh!t for liberals and calling it Ice Cream that you are beginning to believe it yourself...Stewart not a pundit...try that somewhere else...you know...like at Huffington where you libs swallow that dung whole.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Balboa
March 3, 2007 - 18:18 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Um, do you really think that making a disparaging remark about a presidential candidate -- even a homophobic one -- is akin to advocating the death of a sitting Vice President? Really?
Yikes. ns
It's not the same thing, no.
March 3, 2007 - 18:22 ET by balboaIt's not the same thing, no. But it doesn't let Ann off the hook, either.
Balboa
March 3, 2007 - 18:26 ET by Noel SheppardB,
I'm not letting Ann off the hook. I think it was a silly comment on her part. However, it's not even close to the same level of virulence expressed by Maher. Yet, there is still not one media outlet that has covered Maher's remarks. Not one. ns
Noel
March 3, 2007 - 18:33 ET by balboaI'd have to watch Maher's video to tell you. Ann's was a comment made to get attention, to be "edgy." Plus when you use an actual derogatory statement, it tends to attract more attention. And Maher's was not an outright statement, "I wish Cheney were dead."
So, you have been commenting
March 3, 2007 - 18:36 ET by Roger the ShrubberSo, you have been commenting and defending Maher's comments, even though you never bothered to watch the video first?
Bal, Bal, Bal. This is how people lose credibility. We all know you are a water-carrier. At least try to put a little effort into it, will you please?
Sorry, sorry. BTW, that site
March 3, 2007 - 20:11 ET by balboaSorry, sorry. BTW, that site isn't working right now.
And I did _read_ the comments, but will watch the video as soon as the site comes back up.
Are you serious, are you stil
March 3, 2007 - 21:45 ET by upcountrywaterAre you serious, are you still on dial up?
Did I say I was on dial-up?
March 3, 2007 - 22:07 ET by balboaDid I say I was on dial-up?
The site wouldn't come up when I tried.
The proper answer would be ,
March 3, 2007 - 22:29 ET by upcountrywaterThe proper answer would be , Yes i have wide band ,yea i saw it. But noooo.. Waiting waiting, Did you see the video, Yet ????
OK, I saw the video of Maher.
March 3, 2007 - 22:46 ET by balboaOK, I saw the video of Maher. He doesn't seem to be saying he wants Cheney to die or that he wishes Cheney had died. He's stating what he believes to be true: Cheney dies, more people live.
This has taken you this long
March 3, 2007 - 22:49 ET by bigtimerThis has taken you this long to watch the video and come up with a typical boa answer...
Priceless!
LMAO!
Glad I could help ya' out the
March 3, 2007 - 22:51 ET by balboaGlad I could help ya' out there.
Watch the video. He's not advocating Cheney's death. He's saying that if Cheney had died, fewer soldiers would die.
boa, Say hi to mespe or whate
March 3, 2007 - 23:01 ET by bigtimerboa,
Say hi to mespe or whatever the new left wing troll's name is and discuss it...he agrees with you.
We have already been there and done that, as you well know since you have been here most of the day too, and let yourself in on the conversation without even watching the video until now...oh puhleeeze...you are so typical.
he hates cheney
March 3, 2007 - 23:02 ET by tumbler_2007The basis for his opinion is simple. It's not relevant at all. He merely hates the VP.
More or less resulting dead men do not relate directly to Cheney. But to youz idiots, Cheney is Count Dracula. Go figure.
Waiting for dial -up to load!
March 3, 2007 - 23:31 ET by upcountrywaterWaiting for dial -up to load!
balbozo...the eternal apologist for libs
March 3, 2007 - 18:37 ET by Guy Arthur Thomasbalbozo...it appears you'll stoop as low as possible to offer excuses and apologies for liberals, the only thing new here is how low you are willing to go. Next!
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Balboa
March 3, 2007 - 18:38 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Then watch the video. I've seen them both, and, therefore, am qualified to render an opinion. By contrast, if you haven't, you are -- excuse me -- pulling opinions out of your ###. :-) ns
One World, two Americas
March 3, 2007 - 18:58 ET by acumenSeeing how I've quit responding to trolls, I hope you don't mind if I channel my reply through responding to your comment Noel.Your point was well taken Noel.
Back to Coulter's comment - the point of Ann's comment is that if someone calls a pretty boy like Edwards a "faggot", our bizzaro world demands that person (particularly a conservative person) seek therapy. However, using the Ditzy's Maines as an opposite example, if a person (particularly a liberal person) calls a wartime President like Bush a "dumb f**k" our bizzaro world demands they get 5 grammys.
Ironic that it would take a conservative woman to explain what Edwards two Americas is really all about.
One of my favorite things abo
March 3, 2007 - 17:56 ET by Right Wing Attack DogOne of my favorite things about Ann is that she knows exactly how to separate the men from the boys when it comes to conservatives. Watch out for some from our side with weak knees bring out the knives. There are those on the right who seek affirmation from the left by attacking their own.
Please see examples above and
March 3, 2007 - 19:15 ET by Right Wing Attack DogPlease see examples above and below on this thread.
Ann won't care, and she won
March 3, 2007 - 19:15 ET by motherbeltThat's right, Attack Dog, Ann won't care, and she won't shut up. When she said in an article printed in National Review that we should invade Muslim countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity (it was hyperbole, but taken as a straight line), she got fired after the brouhaha. Did she pipe down? Nope, she called the NR editors a bunch of "girlie boys".
If the grandstanding Repubs disown her, they'll just prove that she's more of a man than they are.
Good point MB
March 3, 2007 - 19:59 ET by exLibThe irony of your quote was that, as you stated it was hyperbole, and we all know that Chrisitans Don't do that, but MUSLIMS DO!!
Of course the Left never saw the irony as they wailed away at how Ann could say such a vile thing or suggest that we do it. All the while the left is doing whatever they can to preserve the right of Muslim Countries to kill, oppress and keep their people living in the dark ages and all the while blame the US for it!!
It's amazing.
I do think it's a bit sad though that someone has to say the shocking things Ann says in order for people to listen. She realizes that what she has to say needs to get out there and the MSM will NEVER let most of what she says see any airtime. So Ann has to drop a few bombs and then discerning people will read her books and articles and realize that what she says makes sense.
Liberals in the meantime, will not listen to her at all but just take quotes out of context and express outrage and demand that she be censored.
this is a superb post
March 3, 2007 - 23:59 ET by tumbler_2007Bravo, exLib,
You are shhhpot on.
I usually like Ann because sh
March 3, 2007 - 17:59 ET by appst38I usually like Ann because she has the ability to get under the Libs skin. Knowing her it probablywasn't an accident or something that was mis-spoken. But my concern is that as conservatives this gives voice to all the accusations the Libs and the MSM like to lay at our feet. Lay down with the dogs and you get up with fleas.
I love Ann Coulter (don't tel
March 3, 2007 - 18:04 ET by Clear thinkerI love Ann Coulter (don't tell my wife).
In fact, I was the moderator of her fan club for almost 3 years.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Ann Coulter is an embarrassme
March 3, 2007 - 19:11 ET byAnn Coulter is an embarrassment to the right-wing Conservative movement. I am all for being funny and lighthearted, but she is not. She is simply a mean angry woman with an ax to grind, something to prove, and a bank account to fill.
Sorry, but there is nothing nice about her. If she is the best that the right-wing Christian movement has to represent us and our causes, no wonder we are having such a hard time.
Every time she has the platform, she talks and talks and talks, and yet says absolutely nothing.
Can we get someone out there who will say something of substance?
Debra...
Debra...Zing!Everything just
March 3, 2007 - 19:34 ET by bigtimerDebra...
Zing!
Everything just flies over your head doesn't it?
Gee, what a wet blanket, like I said,you are just a barrel of laughs.
You certainly do not speak for all the so-called right wing Christian conservatives...that's a fact.
Sorry, bigtimer, You and I ju
March 3, 2007 - 20:29 ET bySorry, bigtimer,
You and I just disagree on this. There's a time and place for most everything and Ann Coulter does not know the first thing about how to behave in certain settings.
Oh Debra...Like only you do..
March 3, 2007 - 20:56 ET by bigtimerOh Debra...
Like only you do...eh?
LOL!
What better time or place?
Name where you think it is appropriate according to you and your self-righteous life, where would that would be?
double post deleted
March 3, 2007 - 22:02 ET bydouble post deleted
Debra...You are a self-righte
March 3, 2007 - 22:07 ET by bigtimerDebra...
You are a self-righteous bore, and dense to-boot.
If you aren't married I see why, if you are I pray for your other half.
He certainly needs it with an ice queen like you...
Being self-righteous must make you think you are just so special....
Not.
But hey, that's just my opinion, we must agree to disagree...eh?
gee, bigtimer, all this for h
March 3, 2007 - 22:28 ET bygee, bigtimer, all this for having to delete a double post of mine? Sorry, I will try to be more careful in the future as to not have a need to delete a post. My response to what you said, is right under this.
Debra..You understood every s
March 3, 2007 - 22:33 ET by bigtimerDebra..
You understood every single word I said, it still applies and always will.
Enough for now before I get angry.
LOL!
kay...
March 3, 2007 - 22:42 ET by:o)
bigtimer, Well, now, let me t
March 3, 2007 - 22:03 ET bybigtimer,
Well, now, let me think... Perhaps as a guest on The Jay Leno Show? Oh, but that's right, she blew that appearance as well, by spending the entire segment fighting with Jay Leno.
This latest appearance of Ann Coulter's, was at the American Conservative Union Political Action Conference. Sorry, but, I did not hear one thing come from her poorly delivered amateur night comedy show routine, remotely resembling that which should have been said at such an appearance. She was so busy trying to be funny, that she said nothing of any substance. She missed yet another opportunity to say something worth hearing.
It is fine to 'add' humor into the mix, but dang, she didn't have a mix. Her entire 'speech' (if one can call it that) was a stand-up comedian act --a very poor one, at that.
Deb
March 3, 2007 - 20:59 ET by Noel SheppardDeb,
As you might imagine, I'm not with you on this one. I think Ann is the perfect, young, fresh, outspoken conservative for the new millennium. Frankly, I think we need more voices like hers.
Now, please don't confuse my praise for a tacit approval of everything she says. Honestly, I've never met anybody that I agree with 100 percent of the time, and this certainly includes Ann. In fact, I don't really like this Edwards comment.
However, I think conservatives need some edgy spokespeople that are willing to shock the public from time to time. In reality, we're not just looking to secure the status quo anymore. Oddly, that's become more of a liberal trait, although they certainly would argue this point touth and nail.
With that in mind, does Ann say and write some truly provocative, borderline offensive things know and then? Sure. But maybe we need more of that to wake the public up to the problems the left seem willing to hide under the rug to protect the socialist elements of our government that they have advanced in the past seven decades. Think about it. ns
Hi Noel,See, that's just it.
March 3, 2007 - 21:49 ET byHi Noel,
See, that's just it. I don't see anything fresh about Ann Coulter. I see a very angry woman who is giving the right-wing Christian movement a bad name. She is playing the left-wing game --and she is quite robotic about it. The only thing about Ann Coulter that is not robotic, is her anger. Her anger comes across as quite natural. And her anger makes her the perfect puppet for people making a lot of money off of the right-wing movement --which is obviously fine with her because it fills her pockets as well.
Please don't get me wrong. I realize that the left-wing liberals will look at most of us right-wingers with contempt no matter what we do. But that does not mean that we have to give them unnecessary cause to. And if they are going to 'hate' us for what we say, let's make what we say, truly worth saying --funny or not funny. She was just delivering a bunch of pre-written jokes, written on a piece of paper.
hmm... I suppose it is possible that I am miss-informed about just what Ann Coulter's position is, within the right-wing movement. Is she suppose to be portraying the right-wing angry jester?
Debra...
Ps.. You know I love your threads, Noel. I am honored that you addressed me, even if we dissagree. :o)
Deb darling, I hate to be t
March 4, 2007 - 06:48 ET by liberal_bug_zapperDeb darling, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but to the left, you and all other Christians already have a bad name. You're pure evil. They hate you and every other person of strong faith. When they go on about 'Separation of Church and State' they want all Christians out of government completely. You already have zero credibility with them, so how could those opinions sink lower than zero?
If Ann were a nice soft spoken lady like yourself, no disrespect, but no one would give her the time of day. Liberals only focus on those they believe they can paint as mean spirited and bad. Ann gives them what they want, and in the process, shows them what hypocrites they are... as they never seem to condemn the Bush=Hitler comparisons and talk of assasination films as 'Art' and 'Free Speech'.
I don't get anger from Ann. I get disgust, shame, incredulity, and amazement from her... I see her trying to shock people awake as it seems that most in America sleep while the Commies slowly take over. We're not a free country any more. Just try and not pay taxes. Just try and do what you want on your land, build a house without permission and they'll come on to your land and tear down what you've built. Are we free? Barely... and Ann wants to shock people like you to start waking up... because if the lion share of people like you Deb do not stand up and say "Enough is Enough" our country will soon be gone and we'll all be living in an English speaking France.
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
I have been having some site
March 4, 2007 - 20:30 ET byHi liberal_bug_zapper,
I have been having some site problems with my front page, but if my front page actually works for you, you can see that I agree with you about the state of our nation: www.InformingChristians.com.
Debra...
Hi Deb,Surprisingly enough,
March 4, 2007 - 21:20 ET by liberal_bug_zapperHi Deb,
Surprisingly enough, I'm not a Christian. I don't subscribe to any religion. I'm more agnostic than anything else. However, that being said, I completely support a Christians right to practice his or her religion, no matter where they are, whether it is in school, or government. My belief is that the government makes no rule one way or the other. If a Christian is Elected to a legislative position, then by all means, they can legislate the bible for all I care. While I may disagree with what they may be wanting to legislate, I'm comfortable with the legislative process that it will do it's job. This is also why I hate the idea of direct democracy or the referendum. Referendums are tantamount to tyranny of the majority. This isn't a proper legislative measure and should be stopped and opposed where ever it is practiced. Only closet socialists like referendums.
Back on topic; I believe that what Ann is doing is calling out most on the left for their blatant hypocrisy. I also hate the PC police, so I tend to use words and phrases that cheese the 'Faggot stackers' off. (a little secret, type; 'define: faggot' without the hash marks (') into Google and you'll see what I'm referring to).
Anyway, if it wasn't for controversy, no conservative pundit would get equal time in the news.
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
liberal_but_zapper,::: laughi
March 4, 2007 - 21:40 ET byliberal_but_zapper,
::: laughing :::.. yes, a little controversy, does at times, get things done --a little... :o)
Oh, and it is true that we are a Republic, not a Democracy. You are right. A Democracy is 'mob rule.' Referendums are only good under certain conditions.
You believe that referendum
March 4, 2007 - 22:36 ET by liberal_bug_zapperYou believe that referendums are good? Why? How does it preserve our freedom? Mob rule or direct democracy is dangerous and bad since mobs become stupid. The intelligence of a mob is rated to it's lowest denominator. If you understand that, then you'll understand why protesters are so stupid... even when supposedly smart people participate.
Referendums are dangerous because it puts important decisions into a flash poll. You likely only like referendums when they go your way, but if your side begins losing them, you'll see that they are no good. Legislative Democracy is far better because it insures that it takes time and effort to make laws.
This is also why I think that we need to stop taking polls. Polls do not mean a thing since not everyone is paying attention to the polls. You can't poll 1,000 people and then extrapolate what the entire electorate thinks from that... the idea that you can is ludicrous and dangerous. Leaders who cite polls should be voted out of office the very next election, because any leader who wets the finger to see which way the wind is blowing isn't really a leader.
So in conclusion, referendums are never ever good.... ever!
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"Lead, follow or get out of the way." ~ Thomas Paine
liberal_bug_zapper,I believe
March 4, 2007 - 23:00 ET bydang! another double post --shhh... don't tell bigtimer..
liberal_bug_zapper,I believe
March 4, 2007 - 23:01 ET byliberal_bug_zapper,
I believe that referendums are good only in certain circumstances, only circumstances that legislation has good reason to believe the general public is qualified to vote on. But, for most things? We are supposed to be putting statesmen type people into office to begin with. (However, that clearly is not always the case.)
Debraj - my problem with you is that I simply do not understand
March 3, 2007 - 21:12 ET by acaiguanaDebraj - my problem with you is that I simply do not understand the points you try to make on this site.
I have been watching and listening (reading) your posts for quite a while now and I have yet to see any original thought.
What is your point? Ann Coulter says stuff that is controversial? So what?
Try Joe Biden. Try Teddy Kennedy? Try Paul Krugman? Try Hillary?
I would be tempted to say, "Get off your High Horse", but frankly, I don't think it would matter to you.
There is a Blog Post here (a thread if you would) that talks about the insanity of the MSM promoting the far-left by ignoring their profanity in the Internet.
There are times when I think your promotion of your position approaches profanity.
Just to let you know I am really tired of the stuff you keep advocating here.
ACA
...
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)
DebJMS,I do not do tv, howeve
March 3, 2007 - 22:00 ET by upcountrywaterDebJMS,
I do not do tv, however i do the video links that NB provides.+ others .
Remember that a faggot (girth 24") is really a bundle of sticks, (32" long).
Please cancel your dial -up service, sign -up for wide band so that you can WATCH THE VIDEO LINKS HERE. I'm begging you. well not really <arms ah flapping>
upcountrywater, ::: laughing
March 3, 2007 - 22:16 ET byupcountrywater,
::: laughing ::: Can you believe that I came up with what I said, with high-speed internet? Yes, I listened to her entire, umm.. comedy show.
But, that aside, it was the entire 'show' that came across as bad to me, not just that one comment.
Thanks for the giggle...
Debra... :o)
laughter is the best medicine
March 3, 2007 - 22:49 ET by upcountrywaterlaughter is the best medicine, sweet.
Ann is good ,really GOOD
What would you do??????????????
One must start the race to finish it.
GO!!
It is not a question as to wh
March 3, 2007 - 23:06 ET byIt is not a question as to what would I do. It is a question of, what should anyone in Ann Coulter's position do.
Debra: I find it fascinatin
March 4, 2007 - 14:49 ET by j. frank wilsonDebra: I find it fascinating that all the folks who don't agree with you appear to be (or, at least claim to be) men. Now, I guess some rather deranged men might find Ann Falter physically attractive, if they go for the skank crack addict look, but that's besides the point. At a certain point in most men's lives they realize the truth of the proposition that women are almost always better judges of women then men. For obvious and not so obvious reasons.
Those who waste time not agreeing with you would be wise to think about what you have to say. But there's one absolute truth about 99.99% of the posters on this website - they already know it all and have no interest in learning anything new or unlearning anything they already know.
Bottom line - these men are too stupid for you, Debra. You deserve better.
Ahem. Yoo-hoo. jfrank. QueenM
March 4, 2007 - 20:24 ET by QueenMumAhem. Yoo-hoo. jfrank. QueenMum - woman. Complete with accessories. And not threatened by a young, intelligent woman like Ann Coulter - even if she's way too thin to be my friend. ;)
Hi j. frank wilson,I think th
March 4, 2007 - 20:43 ET byHi j. frank wilson,
I think that many (not all) people here have their minds made up to defend her, no matter what.
What is interesting is that many here (not all) who defend Ann Coulter for her boldness to say what she is thinking, seek to stop me from speaking against what she does.
Debra... :o)
Debra: "seek to stop me&
March 4, 2007 - 20:57 ET by QueenMumDebra: "seek to stop me" ? The typical lib complaint. Have you also suffered retribution and repercussions for expressing dissent? Have you been prevented from posting your comments?
Challenging your point of view does not constitute preventing you from having your say.
My Take Your Grace
March 4, 2007 - 21:32 ET by acumenMy take your grace (and as always good to see you back),
I think she suffers from any-other-woman-than-me envy. This thread it seems to be Ann in her cross-hairs. When she first started posting here I wanted to give her the benefit of doubt - then I went to her website. Upon viewing her site and seeing how intolerant our little angel was of others/faiths, more red flags went up than a May Day parade at Tian'anmen Square. Catholic? bad Mormon? bad Any-other-faith-than-DebraJSmiths? bad.
Having said that I can only pity her. Anyone (other than a government leader) that lives in such an intolerant world while considering their own personal beliefs beyond reproach evokes my pity. I take her posts here at NB for what they are - A child trying to act all grown up.
Having said that, I think she truly means well and I wish her no ill. That is all I will ever have to say publicly on that subject. Charity prevents me from saying more.
Ann Coulter
March 4, 2007 - 23:30 ET by Conservative VoiceI could be wrong, but I can't help but come to the conclusion that Debra's dislike for Ann is because Ann supports Romney. I do not see her as even close to being angry. Rosie is angry. Ann just laughs at her enemies, and I think she handles the drive bys with great charm and wit.
Conservative Voice, Now, you
March 5, 2007 - 00:44 ET byConservative Voice,
Now, you be sure to remember that you are who brought up Romney. And no, I did not know that Ann Coulter supports Romney. And if she does, then among other things, she is a hypocrite too.
Debra...
debra do your homework
March 5, 2007 - 12:12 ET by Conservative Voicethen it is proof you haven't seen the video debra, hence you are proving to everyone here that you did not do your homework when you made claims that Ann is angry. Instead you post talking points that the drive by liberal trolls make, that should bother you.
Conservative Voice,You are ju
March 5, 2007 - 17:39 ET byConservative Voice,
You are just wanting to fight. Of course I watched the video. Just because I did not see something the way you saw it, does not mean that I did not see the video. Try to behave, David.
debra
March 6, 2007 - 12:47 ET by Conservative VoiceThis is a repost, as apparently my post last night was removed due to server problems. So I will do my best to remember what I wrote. Not trying to fight with you. I came to the conclusion that you didn't see the video because she spent a couple of minutes on why she is supporting Mit, and not anyone else. It isn't how I saw it, its fact. So now I am left with either you are not as observant as I thought, or not telling me the truth. Since I know you to not be a liar, I will give you the benefit of the doubt on the latter, but you have proven you see what you want to see and ignore everything else, and then blog accordingly...not being informed and doing your homework makes you a reactionary, and hence readers have to read it with a grain of salt, and eventually you will lose what audience you have. Of the three frontrunners, Mit is the most conservative. It is still too early to lend my total support, as I like Newt better, but Mit is gaining my respect and appreciation. Now back to Ann. I like Ann, almost as much as I like Rush Limbaugh, and you are trying to break into the conservative media. Word of advice, instead of being a McCain and try and take Ann down a notch, learn from them.
QueenMum, There are certain t
March 4, 2007 - 21:53 ET byQueenMum,
My issue that I was speaking of was that if people feel it is okay for Ann Coulter to say whatever she wishes to say, then one would think they would not have a problem with someone speaking up against her behavior.
Debra...
dear debra
March 4, 2007 - 00:02 ET by tumbler_2007YOU are not the right-wing Christian movement.
Also, Ann Coulter has no interest in any so-called movement. Whatever made you think she did?
tumbler_2007,No one person is
March 4, 2007 - 00:17 ET bytumbler_2007,
No one person is the right-wing Christian movement.
As for Ann Coulter having no interest in any "so-called" (as you refer to it) movement? Perhaps you are correct.
What is sad, is that she is portrayed by both sides of the media as what the right-wing Christian movement is all about and many people on the cusp of coming over to the 'right' side of things, clearly must be greatly turned right off by her.
Debra: You are, of course,
March 4, 2007 - 14:35 ET by j. frank wilsonDebra: You are, of course, quite right. As a liberal I think it's great Ann Falter gets so much press because every time she does she simply embarasses herself and what she claims to stand for. She's rude, bitter, mean, vitrolic and has yet to say anything of substance. I wonder who writes her pathetic lines for her - and I wonder when she is going to figure out the voting regulations in Florida and New York.
Don't let the mean remarks here bother you. These posters are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. You know you are correct and that's more than enough for any of us! These fools can't have an intelligent disagreement or conversation because most of them can't think, can't read, can just barely type and absolutely can't stand the slightest questioning of the group mythology.
You're way more mean and vitr
March 4, 2007 - 14:56 ET by kathleenirishYou're way more mean and vitriolic, dude. Spare us your fake outrage about Ann Coulter, as I've said to you before, you're cool with the hate and vitriol of 99.9% of the Democrats in Congress, the Commies in Hollywood, and Lefties in general. Not to mention your own b.s. Please. Boohoo, Ann Coulter picked on John Edwards and all the other limp-wristed liberals. What a meanie! Grow up, baby.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
You have a rare talent for ma
March 5, 2007 - 16:53 ET by j. frank wilsonYou have a rare talent for making things up. How could you possibly know what I'm cool with? You are clueless! You are a font of stereotypes - and nothing else.
jfrank: Oh. Now I get it. You
March 4, 2007 - 20:33 ET by QueenMumjfrank: Oh. Now I get it. You're being condescending toward Debra. Slaying the dragons. Coming to the rescue. Whatta guy!
Oh Frankie and Debra....Perfe
March 4, 2007 - 21:45 ET by bigtimerOh Frankie and Debra....
Perfect two-some!
Almost soul-mates.
Yaba-Daba-Do!
Debra: Ms. Coulter has never
March 4, 2007 - 15:29 ET by QueenMumDebra: Ms. Coulter has never claimed to be a representative of the "right-wing Conservative/Christian movement" (whatever that means). She's a political pundit. And she's extremely intelligent in her taking the left to task. She's so over their heads that they don't get it. The "faggot" statement was nothing but bait.
I suggest that if you want a bit more substance, Laura Ingraham might fill the bill. But frankly, you should be aiming your disappointment at Conservative polticians. It's their job to provide substance for the discourse.
QueenMum, Ann Coulter was spe
March 4, 2007 - 21:24 ET byQueenMum,
Ann Coulter was speaking at the American Conservative Union Political Action Conference. So, yes, I think she wants people to believe she represents Conservatives.
You say the statement was "nothing but bait." Since when is it okay to bait? Baiting is not what taking someone to task is about. Baiting is not what the Conservative political movement is about. If we are not better than those who we complain about, what good are we?
Ann Coulter markets her books on major right-wing Christian conservative sites. This is why she has sold so many books. And there is nothing wrong with marketing one's books on sites. People, should, however not be so trusting. People have a tendency to trust that which they see advertised on a favorite site.
As for her being intelligent? Sorry, there was no sign of intelligent life on that stage. I have yet to see Ann Coulter speak intelligently.
There is a time and place for most everything and there is such thing as too much of one thing. Ann Coulter has yet to grasp such concepts, and something tells me that she is not going to any time soon.
Debra...
Ann was just saying again w
March 3, 2007 - 22:46 ET by Right2thePointAnn was just saying again what she already said a month ago in another context.
She was commenting on the over the top way PC has engulfed the world.
http://tinyurl.com/2...
While discussing politicians and celebrities who "run to rehab in times
of crisis," earlier today on Fox News Channel, conservative pundit Ann
Coulter mocked the idea that someone should have to be "rehabilitated"
for using a word that is considered a slur against gays.
"You use the word 'faggot' and you're going into rehab?" Coulter asked incredulously on Fox's Live Desk A-List.
If that's what she was trying
March 3, 2007 - 22:49 ET by balboaIf that's what she was trying to accomplish, she did it very poorly, insinuating at the same time that Edwards is gay and inferring she would have called him a faggot if it wasn't a "rehab-able" offense.
Hey boa, You have a buddy tha
March 3, 2007 - 22:52 ET by bigtimerHey boa,
You have a buddy that agrees with you....
Say hi to Debra.
Yeah, but for the wrong reaso
March 3, 2007 - 22:58 ET by balboaYeah, but for the wrong reasons. I don't like it because it's a lame effort by her...and she's a vampire.
fresh idea on Ann's comments
March 3, 2007 - 23:14 ET by AuH2Omanhas anyone thought about the idea that Ann did this to give Edwards a much needed shot in his campaign. he's not gotten very much press lately and it was starting to look like a 2 horse race. Ann's much brighter than you realize and very funny as well. Comedy is unique in that everyone does not laugh at the same joke. her columns are great. i think she got everyone with this speech.
come off it, balbooz
March 3, 2007 - 23:14 ET by tumbler_2007You are tiresome. You ignore the fact that over some years now, on the Left there's been the obstinate calumny bandied about that Cool Ann isn't even a woman. Your partisans, who have no way of combatting her legitimately have stooped so LOW as to make fun of her "adam's apple" her cocktail dress, the mystery of her sex! <?> Ann is a WOMAN! A better one than Ann Nicole, whom you adore even at room temp.
I mean LOW. Her femininity is laughed at by you & your chums at Hoofytoonpostblog; WHY? Only because you're all are powerless to beat her in the arena of American ideas. She writes books that go to the TOP of the lists, while you gnash your teeth at her. She laughs at you all the way to the bank. THERE'S your real problem.
Yyeahhh, none of that is true
March 4, 2007 - 10:29 ET by balboaYyeahhh, none of that is true, at least in reference to me.
I'm not ignoring any of that. Those things occur, but they don't mean I can't be critical of her.
What Annie probably really
March 4, 2007 - 05:01 ET by John in CAWhat Annie probably really wanted to call him was an "effeminate p***y". But if you think the "faggot" comment weakened the knees of the PC police and the always umbraged left, then think what the effeminate comment would have done. After all, look at the furor that occurred when Ahnald called the California democratics legislators "girlie men" (which I thought was rich).
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
Apologies to anyone else who
March 4, 2007 - 05:22 ET by Chicago RepublicanApologies to anyone else who has mentioned this on this thread, but ...... I had to stop the playback of the Q&A and frantically ask this.
The boogereater from The Nation that made a statement to Ann that he "appreciated her defense of traditional marraige" and then proceeded to imply that she was a hypocrite because of "three broken engagements" - what in the world was he trying to prove with that crack?? By the way, like a typical bloodsucker he had to state his name at the end of his comment and get a free plug in for his mag.
Someone help me connect the dots here? What in god's name do the two have to do with each other??? If anything, breaking an engagement because you decide the marraige won't work prevents an ugly divorce later.
What a stupid remark.
<edit> ok, went back and watched the exchange again. He also said "and have never married". Ok, still, what's the connection? So, anyone who defends traditional marraige is somehow bound to marry or they are a hypocrite? Guess the Apostle Paul never got that memo.
Again, what an idiot this guy was.
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made a statement to Ann t
March 4, 2007 - 06:56 ET by motherbeltmade a statement to Ann
that he"appreciated her defense of traditional marraige" and then
proceeded to imply that she was a hypocrite because of "three broken
engagements" - what in the world was he trying to prove with that
crack??--
Well, the point of that crack was simply to get in a personal dig at Ann, that's all. Liberals cannot argue without making it personal. Just like most Liberal commentators can't write about Ann without mentioning that she's skinny, or scrawny, or a bleach-blond, or whatever, as if that makes what she has to say irrelevant. The oh-so-sensitive Libs always manage to throw in a comment on someone's looks or weight. I keep waiting for one to throw in "You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny!"
CR,Yeah, I noticed that too.
March 4, 2007 - 06:57 ET by Indiana JoeCR,
Yeah, I noticed that too. It was completely nonsensical. As you say, a (or three) broken engagement(s), if anything, shows that someone takes marriage seriously, and doesn't jump into it willy-nilly.
I took it as a shot at Ann that missed by a mile, yet will probably be thought of on the left as "really taking her down a peg." And the self-serving plug at the end was the icing on that sad little cake. The paranoid little weasel probably thought they'd turn off his mike if he said who he was at the start of his comment, like everyone else did.
Regards,
IJ
I took it as a shot at Ann th
March 4, 2007 - 07:04 ET by Chicago RepublicanI took it as a shot at Ann that missed by a mile, yet will probably be thought of on the left as "really taking her down a peg."
Funny you mention that, IJ. I had the exact same thought. Haven't looked at any of the Lefty webblogs yet, but I'm sure they are all over there high-fiving each other over it, yet the shot was a total airball.
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A bundle of schitks
March 4, 2007 - 08:09 ET by BradyPlease explain why those who don't appreciate Ann think she is "angry". I've watched her on TV, listened to her on the radio, and read her books and commentaries and never has she come across as angry. Perhaps those who use the term to describe her don't understand what it means. An example of anger would be AlGore, red-faced shouting "He lied" when referencing W's arguement for invading Iraq. On second thought, that's probably a better example of "madness" rather than anger. I could point toward anyone posting on the Daily Kos but that too is probably madness rather than anger. Here's an example, BC's cold-eyed, finger shaking retort to Chirs Wallace's questions on FNC. Anger can also be seen in most of what AlFranken or his butt buddy Babs says (although I could and probably should also point out that like AlGore these two are also mad).
Ann is a political satirist. She uses words to shape an argument and to engage her audience. Is she politically correct? No and if she was she wouldn't be able to do her job. Is she always right? No, if we all agreed with her all the time then she would be the only one thinking. Is she thought provoking? Yes. Whether you agree or disagree, she forces you to look at her topic -- that's her job and she's very good at it.
Her use of the term "faggot" is unfortuanate only in the sense that narrow minded, PC loving, book burning advocates want us to believe that some words are "bad" and shouldn't be used. Words may be impolite but they aren't "bad". Political satire is by its very nature non-PC, especially if its done right. Next time you have the inclination to read some leftwing hate speech on the web go to your local public library and look up a book or two by Will Rogers.
Sitting quietly in the dark, I realized that my shadow was no longer scary.
Obviously you know nothing ab
March 4, 2007 - 14:39 ET by j. frank wilsonObviously you know nothing about satire. Ann Falter isn't satire. Jonathan Swift is satire.
Ann Falter is angry, sad, depressing, self-indulgent, and has yet to say anything of substance or meaning. Will Rogers is funny. Not "was" funny - he still is funny.
You want to compare Ms. Falter and Will Rogers? OK - Ann Falter is no Will Rogers.
Chill out, j. frank.Talk abou
March 4, 2007 - 14:47 ET by BlondeChill out, j. frank.
Talk about sad, depressing, self-indulgent, and has yet to say anything of substance or meaning. Sounds just like you, j. frank.
What has Anne done to have you furiously dropping hate and spiteful words all over this site?
Oh, right...what'd she do...turn you down or something?
Blonde, I was about to s
March 4, 2007 - 15:16 ET by kathleenirishBlonde, I was about to say the exact same thing when I saw your comments first. J. Weiner would be funny, if he wasn't so annoying. He appears to have no concept of the absurdity and, really, the downright silliness of his statements. The false outrage over Ann Coulter's comments are a great example. From what I can see, that should be something to approve of by the likes of him and the rest of the gutter Left. Her comments are mild by comparison. I like her pit bull style, though, but I think some of her words could be better chosen because the real issue gets distorted and sidetracked, although with the Liberal MSM that would be the result anyway. They have their agenda to stick to.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
I know exactly what you mean,
March 4, 2007 - 15:28 ET by BlondeI know exactly what you mean, kath. Annoying like a shower dripping. Drip. Drip. Drip.
I love using these silly lib's own words to back them down.
As for the MSM's outrage and hissy fits....can you say Chris Mathews? Sheesh!
Ann Coulter is getting a little over-the-top (purposefully?) for my taste, but I am certainly not offended by anything she says. I just prefer a more subtle conservative approach....a la Laura Ingraham.
Now, I'm going to try to post this again...last time went *poof*.
Now you see it........
March 4, 2007 - 19:22 ET by acumen"Now, I'm going to try to post this again...last time went *poof*."
Blonde - You must have been posting on Couric's blog.
Well, you know how these left
March 4, 2007 - 19:30 ET by BlondeWell, you know how these leftie's try to clean up their messes.
Check this one out....about the HuffTard's disappearing vitriol over the missed attempt on V.P. Cheney's life. By a new poster here, JonQuixote. Nicely done JonQ.
So typical Blonde
March 4, 2007 - 19:47 ET by acumenHa, ha.....that's so typical.
Adrianna - Ve muss krush ze dessent emeediately!!!
Starting to make sense why her former husband switched teams :)
Please...Ms. Falter might tur
March 5, 2007 - 16:56 ET by j. frank wilsonPlease...Ms. Falter might turn out to be not half bad looking if she would just shed a few pounds...
Nap time frank
March 4, 2007 - 16:04 ET by gfrrmanfrank didn't get his wittle nap in today
Swift you haven't read....
March 4, 2007 - 16:15 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasSwift you haven't read then or you are just plain stupid because though Coulter was less subtle in her insult Swift was FAR FAR more offensive and deliberately insulting with his satire.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Whether or not it is sublte h
March 5, 2007 - 17:02 ET by j. frank wilsonWhether or not it is sublte has nothing to do with whether or not it is satire. Good or bad satire, yes - but it doesn't define it. "Satire" is the excuse the right wing pundits use when they get caught with their foot in their mouth - "oh, don't be angry, it's just satire..." B.S.
Ms. Falter isn't ironic or satirical. Stupid, yes. Perhaps she even writes some of the things she says. Bitter, mean, full of vile bile, vitronlic, crude to the extreme, all of the above. Funny? Nope. Insightful? Not a chance.
She's a phony as that silly accent she uses.
It’s amazing to me that vir
March 4, 2007 - 08:50 ET by Dave HighIt’s amazing to me that virtually every leading Republican, certainly all of the presidential candidates anyway, have distanced themselves as much as possible from Foul-Mouth Annie and have denounced her vile, bigoted faggot comment. Yet on this site, her reputation is flourishing! It really says something about the posters on the site, I must say.
Regards, Dave High
Shut up Faggot...... stacke
March 4, 2007 - 09:21 ET by liberal_bug_zapperShut up Faggot...... stacker!!!
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
lbz,Well, that certainly said
March 4, 2007 - 09:28 ET by Blondelbz,
Well, that certainly said it all!
I don't know what it is about Anne Coulter that absolutely drives the liberals insane.
After all, she didn't actually call Edwards a faggot, she said if you say the word faggot, you have to go to rehab (a la the Gray's Anatomy guy), therefore she didn't have anything to say about Edwards. It was funny.
And all of this liberal cacophony is just that....meaningless noise.
"Foul-mouth Annie?"
March 4, 2007 - 14:29 ET by JannyMae"Foul-mouth Annie?"
Actually, I think it says more about the R candidates who wimped out and, "condemned," Ann Coulter for making a joke.
It says...
March 4, 2007 - 14:38 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasDingle Berry Dave, it says we aren't politicians and of course can afford to be more candid about our true sentiments....something of course self-righteous fart-smellers like you who are on a moral crusade to play drama queen and pretend great offense can't afford to do or are used to doing...yes Dingle Berry your reaction and preposterous falling down and screaming bloody murder like a two-year old who just got pushed by another kid is pretty much predictable behaivor from you. Next!...and at least let's get a new act with the next lib rather than this tiring one act play.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
it's amazing to dave low
March 4, 2007 - 15:02 ET by tumbler_2007You're amazed that LEADING Republicans distanced themselves? You're as superficial as everyone thought, Dave. Politicians curry favor, by definition. What's amazing about that? Nothing.
You're thankful your own ridiculous POV has been spared a total whipping. Why don't you face it? Ann Coulter is NOT going away, Dave. It's a mere bump in the road, don't get carried away with liberal glee.
Dave: Can you explain how it
March 4, 2007 - 15:45 ET by QueenMumDave: Can you explain how it is you've come to the conclusion that "every leading Republican, ..... all of the presidential candidates" have distanced themselves from Ann Coulter? You seem to misunderstand Ms. Coulter's place in the world of politics. Can you enlighten us as to which particular candidate Ms. Coulter is actively supporting? A politician or two is asked to comment on her statement and answer that they don't approve of her words, and this is somehow evidence that Conservative politicians find her vile and bigoted? Just goes to show that they all fall into the same PC trap.
QueenMum
March 4, 2007 - 15:58 ET by ShadesofgrayQueenMum, Ann Coulter said in her speech that she likes Mitt Romney the best in 2008. Romney said her statements were offensive, as did McCain and Giuliani....HOWEVER she will be invited back to give a speech at the next big gop fundraiser or convention. So their supposed disavowal of her speech is empty rhetoric. it is a wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Like another lefty said a few posts back, Coulter IS the GOP, and until she is out of work, any disavowal of her by a candidate is just talk. So go Annie go. She is the heart and soul of the conservative party. That is good for Democrats.
Shades
March 4, 2007 - 16:16 ET by QueenMumCoulter is NOT the GOP. What a ridiculous statement. Even Coulter would laugh out loud at that suggestion.
What has happened to people t
March 4, 2007 - 11:00 ET by King of the BritonsWhat has happened to people today that they get offended or outraged by what people SAY? I remember when I was a kid and I got upset when other kids would call me names. My parents basically told me to toughen up and that words could never hurt me unless I let them. There was even a neat little saying that went with it that had something to do with sticks and stones. It is a game people. Libs, liberal blogs, and the media use anything said by their enemies as a weapon for political gain. Conservatives and the blogs (media doesn't help here - hence we have Newsbusters et al) use whatever the libs say as a politcal weapon against them.
Who cares if Ann Coulter called John Edwards a faggot? I don't. Who cares if Joe Biden thinks that Indians belong in a 7-11? I don't. Call me a neanderthal, but I still teach my kids that words cannot hurt them and to toughen up. Part of freedom is that you can say whatever you want and not fear being sent to re-programming. Ann should not apologize and Edwards should tell her to STFU.
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!´´
--Patrick Henry
sad
March 4, 2007 - 11:15 ET by longriderNo comparison between what Ann and Mr. Bill Maher said.
I find it rather; as a matter of fact really dishearting
that John McCain, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Mitt Romney find it necessary to
verbally spank Ann for saying what she said.
With that kind of roll over and whine girlie attitude how
can I consider voting for any of these three for president of the US. I feel it
might be a long time coming before the right gains any of their muscle back. On
the other hand they didn’t use it to their full advantage when they had it.
Don’t the idiots understand Ann is on their side? Boy do these three gutless
wonders need to take some lessons from the democrats.
I damn sure don’t hear any comments coming from the
democratic candidates for president complaing about Bill Maher saying the world
would be a safer place if the assassination attempt on Cheney succeeded.
What’s a body to do?
He did not say the world woul
March 4, 2007 - 13:24 ET by toolzHe did not say the world would be a safer place if the assassination attempt on Cheney succeeded. If that is your intrepetation, that's fine, but be careful using the word "saying" when you mean "implying." Be that as it may....
The reason you won't hear Democratic candiates complain about Maher's comment is because... Maher said it on a show that bears his name, representing only himself, not at an event representing Liberals . Coulter said it as a representative of a the Conservative Party, with Republican presidential candidates in attendance.
Not to mention the joke made no sense... usually, for a joke to work, it needs to have an inkling of truth in it. When has John Edward's ever been brought up as possibly being a closet gay man? This seems like a very selfish, bigoted joke.
Faggot...Coulter's reference
March 4, 2007 - 14:24 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasI realize you probably are too lib-stupid to realize but calling somone a faggot doesn't have to refer to faggots, fags, homos, gays...whatever you want to call them. Faggot can mean @hole, jerk, metro, but not necessarily homosexual. Much like calling something gay meaning it is crap, no good, pathetic. The point of her use of the term faggot is that it is he is so amateurish and childishly hypocritical that a juvenille insult is all that is worth using to insult him. And if you are even more lib-stupid you believe grown-ups, even the best grown-ups don't insult...spare me and get out of diapers...a good insult sometimes can maginalize an opponent for a long time. And maybe it wasn't the BEST insult but he wants to use their best ammunition of HAIRBOY EDWARDS? I think because he IS SO LAME it is HIS fault Coulter couldn't must anything more than calling him a FAGGOT.
But STOP with the liberal BIGOT WHINE already. People get called names every day...SAVE us the MORAL SUPERIORITY fart sniffing party you libs have every time someone is called a name. YOU libs use expletives and call names 3x the rate of anyone...so save it. Big boys and girls call each other names, even the most civilized of us.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
I find it quite interesting t
March 4, 2007 - 14:32 ET by JannyMaeI find it quite interesting that the liberal on the thread doesn't see Maher's comments as inferring that he was, "wishing Cheney was dead," yet can infer from Coulter's joke that she was, "bashing gays."
Liberal, "thinking," at its finest!
Guy
March 4, 2007 - 14:41 ET by ShadesofgrayGuy said "YOU libs use expletives and call names 3X the rate of anyone, so save it."
There is a difference between a comedian calling a Repub a name in a club or on a talk show than Ann Coulter saying the same thing as the keynote speaker at the GOP convention, introduced by Mitt Romney and attended by every Repub candidate. Conservatives support Ann's comments. She represents the mainstream thought of conservatives everywhere, and that is out there for all to see. Good for her for being the honest messenger for the right. It allows the world to see how they really are. As a left leaner myself, I encourage her to keep it up. She is the window into the conservative soul, and the more she talks the better for Democrats. Go Annie!
Shades...
March 4, 2007 - 14:51 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasPersonally I don't have any problem with Coulter. She is controversial but a person is just kidding themselves if she is going to have any negative effect on a candidate. Voters aren't that sophisticated, it doesn't work that way. Maybe 5-10% of the voters engage in this degree of connect the dots. In reality Coulter is as damaging as racists like Al Sharpton or hatemongerers like Al Franken, both regular contributors to Democrat party meetings and well received.
And you are kidding yourself if you don't think Democrats don't use the same kind of language. Maybe they don't use the word faggot but they use synonymous insults all the way to calling George W. Bush a murderer. Democrats use what they term "hatespeech" just as often and to me, more often, than conservatives...however the lib MsM conveniently excuses them constantly and consistently fails to report in a railing and pretentious manner feigning offense when a LIB does it as when a Conservative does it...but it really doesn't matter. In the end it is what a CANDIDATE says.
Take filth mouth Rosie the Racist...by your own lib standards she is a RACIST after mocking Chinese. Now I don't think she really is a racist, just a misandrist and general hatemongerer who is confused and long ago a bitter soul turned rotten. Is anyone denouncing her from the LIBS for what is clearly HATE RACIST speech? No. Why? Cuz she is just a social commentator.
And so, even at an official party meeting Coulter is still understood NOT TO BE a politician but a social and political commentator...a modern philosopher...don't kid yourself, those who hate her already hate her and those that like her already do, she isn't making any more waves than she has already made.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Guy
March 4, 2007 - 15:32 ET by ShadesofgrayGuy, I agree that liberal comedians trash Bush and Cheney. But I have not seen them do it at the podium of a Democratic Convention. A comedy club, yes. On The View and Leno...yes. You call Coulter a social commentator. Well, so is Andrew Dice Clay. And Kathy Griffin. And Carrot Top. They are not keynote speakers for the DNC.
AND, if Kathy Griffin DID stand at the DNC podium and call Giuliani a cousin-marrying, adulterous, marriage hating faggot lover, or something like that, this website would be lit up. So if you are going to call libs "whiners" for criticizing Coulter, then shut up when a comedian or pundit does the same to a righty. Oh wait...then this website would no longer exist, since that is its stated purpose. Hmm...what a conundrum.
Ah..but
March 4, 2007 - 15:53 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasAh but...if Griffin did say that of course the LIBS would run as fast as they could to thank her privately and protect her publicly by claiming...what else? That she is a COMEDIAN...the I am a comedian excuse. Hate-speech is hate-speech, regardless (I use the term hate-speech because it is a PC LIB word, not one I agree with but since you are a lib and libs set the standard I use it in applying lib rules to a lib, in reality the term hate-speech is just a petty tactic by libs to try and induce false guilt through moral superiority and pressumption as a weapon). The truth is Coulter insulted Edwards...end of story.
But there is more than one way to skin a cat...how many times has RACIST HATEMONGERER Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton been a KEYNOTE SPEAKER for Dems? Or white-hater Mary Frances Berry that believes the USCCR "should only look out for civil rights violations against
persons of certain select skin colors". Have they abandoned them? No. And that is the point of the HYPOCRISY of libs and a lib media...Screaming H. Dean demands Republicans denounce Ann Coulter for doing on a far less scale what Dems do all the time and don't denounce...KEYNOTE SPEAKER DEMS I am referring to who have made racist and hatefilled comments repeatedly.
This is just a drama for the public. Jesse stills hates whites and Jews but is embraced and courted by Dems.
By the way...it isn't whining anyone is doing. When ROSIE the RACIST or any other obvious lib or Dem engages in what YOU libs call "hate-speech" all we are doing is calling attention to YOUR HYPOCRISY. You claim to be THE TOLERANT PARTY, the INCLUSIVE PARTY, the BIG TENT PARTY, the SENSTIVE to CULTURAL, RELIGIOUS and ALL Differences party but engage in the very hate-speech you condemn. No, no one is complaining about your hate-speech, just pointing out your hypocrisy.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
that's fine
March 4, 2007 - 16:25 ET by ShadesofgrayGuy, since you have not stated any specific statements that Jackson made that were racist at the podium of a DNC convention, I cannot accept or deny what it is you are trying to say. I don't remember it happening, but I'm sure you have a link to refresh my memory, right? The hymietown quote was not said at a convention, just in case that is what you are thinking of.
If Coulter was on a talk show when she made these statements, instead of being introduced by Mitt Romney, this whole thing would be a different situation.
Also, just so you know, I welcome Ann's comments. So long as she is the face of the conservatives, it swings a few votes leftward. You guys believe what she believes and it makes it easy for voters to decide if that is the direction they want to go. Good for her.
I see...
March 4, 2007 - 16:38 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasSo now it is okay to be an outspoken racist and bigot like Jackson and Sharpton and be a Keynote Speaker for Dems from time to time and be embraced by the party and supported by the party...just don't say anything like that when making a speech at a DEM party meeting, just immediately after leaving and anytime afterwards.. Oh come on already...this is the very reason you libs stumble every time you gain a foothold...you play games with your morality and ethics.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Let's get things clear. This
March 4, 2007 - 16:43 ET by QueenMumLet's get things clear. This was NOT a RNC convention. It was the Conservative Political Action Committee Conference. May be a minor difference to you, Shady. But I think the context of the conference should be considered in the argument.
Well...
March 4, 2007 - 16:51 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasWell in that case maybe Coulter should have called him a _____ heh, I better not go there but thanks for the reminder...it was a CPAC with the Presidential candidate present, thanks for the reminder that got lost among the debating. It is funny watching H. Dean having fits like a two-year old playing the "How dare she say that" game. What a clown these Dems have.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Haha, he is so lame that she
March 4, 2007 - 14:42 ET by toolzHaha, he is so lame that she couldn't come up with a better joke? He is so childishly hypocritical that her using a childish term was being ironic? That is some sharp rationale.
And yes, I learned from Eminem that "fag doesn't have to mean gay people."
Well...
March 4, 2007 - 14:53 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasWell, this must be why you remain a lib, you don't get sophisticated irony...but keep studying. ; )
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Maybe she should have called
March 4, 2007 - 15:00 ET by toolzMaybe she should have called him a 'poopy pants' or accused him of having cooties. :)
Funny...
March 4, 2007 - 15:16 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasYou know it is funny you should say that...in truth this is how PC freak libs want the world to be, they want everyone playing by little children rules of play nice...until of course the person that crosses the line that THEY GET to draw is one of their own and then...out come the excuses but when those on the other side of the line cross...it is like watching AUNT BEA go on a drama rant and the world is coming to and end.
And this is one of the flaws with libs...they want to write the rules and set the boundaries for everyone else...play PC NAZI when someone violates these rules but excuse themselves, their friends and family (forgive me Cingular) when they do it yet...enjoy the advantage their violation gave them.
Maybe she should have called him a poo-poo pants...but then she would just be falling victim to the guilt inducing hypocritical duplicity of the Democrats and libs with the "do as I say, not as I do" tactic cuz we know no Democrats is about to confine themselves to the very demands they place on others regarding behavior and speech.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Yeah, those PC Nazis and want
March 4, 2007 - 15:51 ET by balboaYeah, those PC Nazis and wanting people to play nice and not call people faggots at conventions...they're really too much! Are these the same PC Nazis that don't want Maher to suggest that fewer people would die if Cheney died?
As usual balbozo is back with excuses...
March 4, 2007 - 16:01 ET by Guy Arthur Thomasbalbozo, I thought yesterday you drank a whole quart of stupid and had enough but today you appear to have started early in the day. So you are saying you WANT Maher to make such statements? Remember I didn't ask if you think he should be free to say such things I asked "do you want Maher to say such things"? Remember your statement about says nothing about freedom just wanting...so using your own words...Do you WANT Maher to say such things? I want him to be FREE TO say such things...but you didn't refer to it like that...the word FREE wasn't in your statement all you said was, "PC Nazis that don't want Maher to suggest that fewer people would die if Cheney dieds, " So obviously you WANT Maher to say such things and of course you WANT Coulter to say what she did. I am wasting my time with your but everyone needs a little target practice now and then.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
I don't share the views of Ma
March 4, 2007 - 16:08 ET by balboaI don't share the views of Maher on the VP, but nice try. I don't want him to say anything in particular.
Oh so you are a PC NAZI
March 4, 2007 - 16:11 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasI see so you ARE a PC NAZI...you don't want him to say ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR...what about what HE wants to say...you don't want him to say what he wants to say...you don't support his individual autonomy and right to free speech and thought? Yeah, just the very stupid TACTIC you lame libs use to twist and spin everything around you balbozo.
Shut up and blog! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
balboa: Can't see the forest
March 4, 2007 - 16:59 ET by QueenMumbalboa: Can't see the forest for the trees?
At a conference of like-minded people, I suggest that if I use the word "faggot" I may have to go into rehab is equivalent to suggesting on national t.v. that the VPOFTUS should have died?
Let's see. Joe Terrorist is flipping through the channels. He sees Ann Coulter's comment. He doesn't get it. He sees Maher's comment. This makes him smile.
Simplistic, perhaps. But the difference is clear to me. Maher, Rosie, et al may be "just comedians". But often what constitutes comedy is how one views the world. Sorry. I just can't get into the head of someone whose worldview finds humor in considering the assassination of the VP of their own country.
I don't think Maher said it f
March 4, 2007 - 19:00 ET by balboaI don't think Maher said it for laughs; he said it for attention, to be "edgy."
Why do libs always try to exc
March 4, 2007 - 19:34 ET by QueenMumWhy do libs always try to excuse their rudeness by labeling it "edgy"?
Not excusing it, thus the quo
March 4, 2007 - 19:37 ET by balboaNot excusing it, thus the quote marks.
Thanks, balboa.
March 4, 2007 - 20:14 ET by QueenMumI guess my comment could be "labeled" rhetorical then.
NY Times Gets Reaction to Coulter Comment
March 4, 2007 - 14:54 ET by Paul DetrickThe New York Times decided to get some reaction to the Coulter's use of words. Here is what everyone had to say, although Coulter's comment is by far the funniest:
Coulter's reaction: “C’mon, it was a joke. I would never insult gays by suggesting that they are like John Edwards. That would be mean.”
David E. Bonior, Edward's Campaign Manager's reaction: “John was singled out for a personal attack because the Republican establishment knows he poses the greatest threat to their power...Since they have nothing real to use against him, Coulter’s resorting to the classic right-wing strategy of riling up hate to smear a progressive champion.”
Senator John McCain's reaction: "The comments were wildly inappropriate.”
Rudolph Giuliani's reaction: “The comments were completely inappropriate and there should be no place for such name-calling in political debate.”
Kevin Madden, a spokesman for Mitt Romney, had this reaction: “It was an offensive remark. Governor Romney believes all people should be treated with dignity and respect.”
Stop wimping out, men! Wher
March 4, 2007 - 15:25 ET by kathleenirishStop wimping out, men! Where is the friggin' outrage when Libs insinuate death to conservatives or Republicans and call them Hitler and Nazies?
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
Why KI
March 4, 2007 - 19:15 ET by acumenWhy does the name Whoopi Goldberg keep coming to mind in this thread?
Say what you will, there are
March 4, 2007 - 15:43 ET by BillAdkinsSay what you will, there are freaks on the left but they are just that, freaks. Ann Coulter, however, is the face of the rightwing mainstream. When the right looks in the mirror, the reflection is Ann Coulter. I'm sure they're proud.
So, BillA, if I post here that when the left looks in the mirror
March 4, 2007 - 16:02 ET by acaiguanaSo, BillA, if I post here that when the left looks in the mirror they see Robert Byrd, a known segregationist and KKK member and hater as their reflection, that would make you proud? Or would it be a silly comment?
I think it would be a silly comment. Come on man. If you want to debate, then debate. If you want to pick a fight, go to another site.
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Byrd is hardly the democratic
March 4, 2007 - 16:10 ET by balboaByrd is hardly the democratic equivalent of Coulter, is he? As far as I know he'd renounced his racist past, hadn't he?
So, you have a stake in this Troll? balboa?
March 4, 2007 - 16:13 ET by acaiguanaSo, you have a stake in this Troll? balboa?
Or are you just trying to pick a fight with me. I don't do intellectual duals with unarmed people.
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"I don't do intellectual
March 4, 2007 - 16:21 ET by BillAdkins"I don't do intellectual duals with unarmed people." We come unarmed to 'dual' you so as to make it fair. ;)
Nice try Adkins. You've been asked twice to say something.
March 4, 2007 - 16:58 ET by acaiguanaNice try Adkins. You've been asked twice to say something.
But, you continue to Troll.
Sad.
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I don't do intellectual duals
March 4, 2007 - 18:56 ET by balboaI don't do intellectual duals with unarmed people.
[groan] Reading your own press releases again? ;-)
Not picking a fight, just point out the uneven comparison.
Yeah, it was a cheap shot, balboa. I apologise.
March 4, 2007 - 19:09 ET by acaiguanaYeah, it was a cheap shot, balboa. I apologise.
But why are you putting yourself in defense of this silly Troll?
And I actually say to you, yes, the Democrat acceptance of Byrd as opposed to their rejection of Trent Lott is hypocritical to the max.
Thanks anyway.
Do you want to get into Dick Durbin?
'After reading the e-mail, Mr. Durbin said, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."'
Give me a break. And quit defending idiots.
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I don't know why I'm sticking
March 4, 2007 - 19:14 ET by balboaI don't know why I'm sticking up for the hit-and-run post. Actually I was honestly asking a question about Byrd. I _assume_ he renounced his past, but has he?
That is exactly why I go nuts with you sometimes. ACA
March 4, 2007 - 19:19 ET by acaiguanaThat is exactly why I go nuts with you sometimes. ACA
You don't know why. And that is a feeling, not a brain. You've got a brain.
I'm depressed a bit, so that must be it?
I dunno balboa - I'm trying to see the US win a war here.
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I posted because you went fro
March 4, 2007 - 19:22 ET by balboaI posted because you went from a comment about Coulter to one about Byrd, and that seems like a tenuous connection at best.
Go see "Breach." Really good movie. :-)
That is such incredible crap.
March 4, 2007 - 19:26 ET by acaiguanaThat is such incredible crap.
This guy comments that when I look into a mirror I see 'Ann Coulter' and hate and therefore feel good about it?
And I say back, hey, what else but a talking point do you have to say?
And he responds, he made a point, but it went over my head?
My head? Balboa?
Then you jump in and say, uh.... well.... I sorta agree with him?
Man, my point about Byrd was exactly spot on. You know that. And if you think for one moment Ann Coulter is just another shrill voice out there...
Well, read Dick Durbin's comment.
Tell me - how many Democrats stood up and said, "You have gone too far. Have you no shame?"
Not one.
Thanks
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CRAP. I owe you an apology. I
March 4, 2007 - 19:32 ET by balboaCRAP. I owe you an apology. I misread your response to his post. I apologize.
Accepted bal. ACA
March 4, 2007 - 19:35 ET by acaiguanaAccepted bal. ACA
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I agree, balboa. A tenuous co
March 4, 2007 - 19:28 ET by QueenMumI agree, balboa. A tenuous connection, if at all.
queenmum, I sincrely hope you were being sarcastic.
March 4, 2007 - 19:30 ET by acaiguanaqueenmum, I sincrely hope you were being sarcastic.
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Nope. Wasn't being sarcastic.
March 4, 2007 - 19:47 ET by QueenMumNope. Wasn't being sarcastic. Just needed to reread some of your prior posts on the subject in order to see how you made the connection. I'm still working on following your train of thought.
Carry on. :)
Follow his train of thought?
March 4, 2007 - 20:27 ET by BillAdkinsFollow his train of thought? Should be easy - it's on a circular track - HO scale with real smoke from the stack.
bileblower: That would be Sen
March 4, 2007 - 19:06 ET by Right Wing Attack Dogbileblower: That would be Senator Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd of the Ku Klux Klan. Everything named after him in the state he represents should include his full title if you and his constituents are so damn proud of Bigot Bob.
A side note: At this point in
March 4, 2007 - 19:25 ET by QueenMumA side note: At this point in time, the good citizens of the State of West Virginia feel obligated to continue to vote Robert Byrd into office. It's really kind of sad. I'm sure the Honorable Senator from West Virginia is still capable of reasonable thought. Unfortunately, his train often jumps the track. And West Virginia continues to be one of the poorest states in the Union. I don't get it.
BTW, he has apologized on numerous occasions for his KKK affiliations. And I feel his apologies were sincere. But I agree that it doesn't make sense that Trent Lott gets taken to the woodshed while Byrd gets a pass.
So, Robert Byrd says, "I'm sorry." David Duke?
March 4, 2007 - 19:33 ET by acaiguanaSo, Robert Byrd says, "I'm sorry." David Duke?
I have no respect for this cretin. He's as bad as a Democrat Fascist gets.
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Can't help it, aca. Byrd remi
March 4, 2007 - 19:39 ET by QueenMumCan't help it, aca. Byrd reminds me of my father-in-law - who's also from West Virginia. Not only is there a physical resemblance, but my fil also has a penchant for long-winded storytelling. So, Sen. Byrd might be family. Have to show him a little respect. ;)
Actually, QueenMum, you don't have to show him respect.
March 4, 2007 - 19:44 ET by acaiguanaActually, QueenMum, you don't have to show him respect.
I suggest strongly that you read about General 'Chinese' Charles Gordon. That will give you some idea as to where I come from on this topic.
Further, racism in the US has been used by the very people who claim to be against it as a club to create it.
Just my opinion. Older men do not deserve respect if their ideas are harmful.
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aca: I was being somewhat whi
March 4, 2007 - 20:09 ET by QueenMumaca: I was being somewhat whimsical. You see, among the rural folk in West Virginia, elders are honored in much the same way as in some Eastern cultures. That's why I say that the people of WV feel obligated to Sen. Byrd. Not just for all the pork he's brought to the state, but also because of his age. By golly, if he's not ready to call it quits, no one is about to force him. It would be disrespectful. I just can't get to the place where I can consider Sen. Byrd to be harmful at this point in time. I'm fairly new to the study of politics. Perhaps I need to do some research into Sen. Byrd's past as regards his service in the U.S. Senate.
I think we need to remember that at some point in our country's history, there was a large number of people who felt that blacks were less than human. One couldn't really call it a prejudice. It was what they truly believed. Some still do. Some older Americans have learned the error in that thinking. But some stubbornly hold on to what they consider to be true. I'm not sure to which group Sen. Byrd belongs. Could you provide specific examples of things that Sen. Byrd has done or said in recent times that lead you to conclude that he still holds onto "harmful ideas". Don't mean to argue. I just want to better understand your point of view. Thanks. QM
queenmum - my thinking is pretty simple.
March 5, 2007 - 07:01 ET by acaiguanaqueenmum - my thinking is pretty simple.
Let's see. There are 100 human beings in the United States Senate.
One of them belonged to the KKK.
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QueenDumb: I'm gonna go ahead
March 4, 2007 - 22:56 ET by Right Wing Attack DogQueenDumb: I'm gonna go ahead and assume you believe your so called 'Honorable Senator' was thinking reasonably when his 'group' thought it was a great idea to hang people from trees because they were black. Also, are you not aware, his and apparently, your political party spawned the Klan?
Bill: Another example of some
March 4, 2007 - 16:21 ET by QueenMumBill: Another example of someone who doesn't understand what Ann Coulter does. Besides, does this mean that Rush has fallen from his pedestal as the face of the right? Wish the lefties could make up their minds. Bunch of paranoid schizophrenics. Oops! There I go. Demeaning the mentally ill.
You can distinguish between t
March 4, 2007 - 20:30 ET by BillAdkinsYou can distinguish between them? Rush and Ann peddle the outrageous and they cross the line - and that they're so popular with you, that demonstrates they are you. Or is it that you wish to distinguish yourself from them? That you are NOT the political equivalent of WWE - you know, fake wrestliing, fans?
Nah. I'm more of a SciFi fan
March 4, 2007 - 20:36 ET by QueenMumNah. I'm more of a SciFi fan myself.
What, because she used the wo
March 4, 2007 - 19:07 ET by liberal_bug_zapperWhat, because she used the word 'Faggot'? My goodness. It is amazing to me what pansies the left have become.
As for the above comments by Rudolph Giuliani, John McCain and Mitt's handlers.... YOU BUNCH OF WUSSES.... GROW A FRIGGIN SPINE!
Geeze, Ann's got more kahones than all those 'so-called-men'.
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Again the hypocricy of this s
March 4, 2007 - 22:13 ET by schmidtAgain the hypocricy of this site astounds everyone but the far right wing rounding up their wagons regardless of their behavior. One moment, Sheffield is whining about liberal profanity and the next moment, how great it is for the right wing Bush loyalists to have a vitriolic voice like Coulter! Amazing!
Whats it to the likes of you?
March 4, 2007 - 22:20 ET by bigtimerWhat's it to the likes of you?
Please get a life back on Stern and stay there...please razey...say hi to your crazy pals too while you are at it...I know little hater misses me for sure.
Bigtimer, tell us how you def
March 4, 2007 - 22:40 ET by schmidtBigtimer, tell us how you define vitriolic remarks? How do you define ad hominem attacks? I will pass on your vitriol to Hays but the lunatic wombat as you and others affectionately called him, usually ignored your constant slander and immature remarks.
Newsbusters has lost site of what a conservative is since they never allow open debate with anyone that disagrees with their philosophy.
schmitty...You are a roaring
March 4, 2007 - 22:43 ET by bigtimerschmitty...
You are a roaring riot!
LMAO!
"never allow open debate
March 4, 2007 - 22:52 ET by NL207"never allow open debate with anyone that disagrees with their philosophy."
I didn't know that Newsbusters was an acredited liberal arts institution offering indoctrination in the liberal arts and social sciences. I guess you get failing grades here for not toeing the party line just like at most academic campuses acrosss the United States.
I guess I need to study up on
March 4, 2007 - 23:10 ET by schmidtI guess I need to study up on Rush books and listen to all the tapes of Hannity and Oreilly,NL, and subscribe to their website so that I can fit right in the always Right ..we can then make fun of the loony libs with total immunity!
Newsbusters has lost site of what a conservative is since they never allow open debate with anyone that disagrees with their philosophy.
Maybe what you need is to act
March 4, 2007 - 23:33 ET by NL207Maybe what you need is to actually apply logic and reason to your thought processes instead of viewing every issue through the prism of emotion. You can start with envy.
The Liberal vice of envy:
All liberal concepts of "social justice" are based on Marx and the sin of envy. Social justice is an entirely liberal concept. Conservatives view all government formulated atempts to create "social justice" as the tyranny they are.
There can be no such thing as social justice in the context of government. How cold this be? Because government is the exercise of law. The only justice in the exercise of law is the fair, equal, and impartial treatment of all persons. The liberal application of "social justice" always involves laws which treat persons and in particular, their property differently, depending on who they are or what they own. This violates the concept of equal treatment before the law. If there is no equal treatment before the law, then there can be no justice. If there is no justice under systems of "social justice", then "social justice" is not justice at all, but tyranny.
Well said, flyboy. Very wel
March 5, 2007 - 01:17 ET by Chicago RepublicanWell said, flyboy. Very well said. By the way, doesn't Schmidt remind you of a less Jesus-freakish version of Rhayes?
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Wrong is wrong on both sides
March 4, 2007 - 22:50 ET byWrong is wrong on both sides of any issue. Sometimes wrong is wrong, no matter who feels it is wrong; but sometimes it is only wrong to some people. In the cases where it is wrong to only some people, then those people should find wrong, wrong on both sides of an issue. Does this make sense?
What I find wrong with Ann Coulter is her entire mean angry manner that she puts forth, all in the name of the right-wing Christian Conservative movement. (It is a misrepresentation, to say the least.) As far as her insinuating that Edwards is a homosexual, that was just a stupid and very childlike comment. Edwards is not very smart and I do wonder if he does drugs (I am serious.), but I don’t believe he is a homosexual. If anyone is a homosexual, I would put my money (if I were a betting gal) on Giuliani.
I do find it interesting, however, how people who are pro-homosexuality, find it offensive when someone is called one. Do many people find it offensive if someone thinks they are heterosexual?
Gosh, something tells me my honesty is too much for both sides of this issue and I should just post on another thread, something safe like a religion topic. hehe… just kidding.. :o)
Hmmm, hypocrisy. Who's would
March 4, 2007 - 22:50 ET by liberal_bug_zapperHmmm, hypocrisy. Who's would that be? How is it that her admitted style of right-wing invective which is always pro-US is worse that those pundits and congressional leaders on your side calling our soldiers murderers, torturers, and rapists... without evidence by the way, how is what she says worse than those on your side writing books or making movies about assassinating Bush, and some others actually voicing regret that Cheney didn't die in the failed assassination attempt, or many on your side calling us Nazis and Bush = Hitler? You do know that the Nazi party were socialists right? That the natural progression of control and obedience to the state happens to move the leftists to authoritarian rule... it's a natural result of socialism.
You faggot stacker! I'm not a Christian nor do I hold to any of the more subdued responses that those like you recieve.... faggot stacker. You and all your kind, the metrosexuals are actually just a bunch of faggot stackers.
The difference is... we are actually patriots and true Americans while... you... are borderline traitors during this time of war against an enemy who has already attacked and has promised more attacks. Your side continuously propagandizes for the enemy, which I find far more vile and disgusting than insinuating that someone is gay.
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If Hays or any lunatic libera
March 4, 2007 - 23:03 ET by schmidtIf Hays or any lunatic liberal called someone a "faggot stacker" they would be banned, so I won't even give you the dignity of a response. Otherwise, I would have the same fate as poor Haysie!
Newsbusters has lost site of what a conservative is since they never allow open debate with anyone that disagrees with their philosophy.
Whine
March 4, 2007 - 23:27 ET by UnsaneTranslation of schmidt's post: whine.
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Why? What is your beef, you
March 4, 2007 - 23:27 ET by liberal_bug_zapperWhy? What is your beef, you don't stack kindling? You do realize that the word does have other meanings. In fact, my grandmother used the word just as I have. She would tell us to go out and stack faggots for the winter. She used it because it was the word her mother and her mother's mother used for a bundle of kindling. In fact, it wasn't until I was a teenager that I knew there was another meaning. She also used the word boner as meaning "a mistake". That used to get a laugh out of me an my cousins every time she'd say it. Still kind of funny when I hear her say it.. but I no longer giggle.
You libs really need to learn the language more. I mean really, when would anyone stack gay people???? And, if you did, how would you do it? Would it be like Abu Graib... only everyone would be smiling and giggling like a bunch of gay schoolboys? Please, enlighten us on this matter.
What tickles me the most is that you've actually quoted the whole term, which means you didn't question that this was some sort of slur... you just assumed that it was.... Maybe you have something against people who stack kindling.
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What's the most recognized de
March 4, 2007 - 23:32 ET by balboaWhat's the most recognized definition of the word? Did Ann mean she couldn't talk about Edwards because she wouldn't be able to compare him to kindling? Come on.
Wow Bal, so you've morphed
March 5, 2007 - 00:04 ET by liberal_bug_zapperWow Bal, so you've morphed into the Amazing Kreskin eh? Ooo OOoo read my mind next!!!
And what did Ann say again? "I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word "faggot," so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards."
Now where in there did she say how she would use the word? Did she say she would call him a Faggot? So the problem with everyone who's getting caught up in this frenzy is the same problem idiot lib above who I easily got with my bait.... they're all stupid. She never said how she'd use the word. She only said that if she used it while talking about Edwards, she'd have to go to rehab... making fun of you libtards and your obsession with PC.... oh, except when it comes to Christians.
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Right l_b_z!! And let's not
March 5, 2007 - 00:17 ET by gfrrmanRight l_b_z!! And let's not forget John"I was in Viet Nam" Kerry's "botched joke"!....nuance...
Heck the term "politic
March 5, 2007 - 00:30 ET by radiofitz34Heck the term "political correctness" is more offensive to me than the word "faggot". Next thing you know the thought police will be knocking on my door.
Nice hair-splitting.
March 5, 2007 - 09:55 ET by balboaNice hair-splitting.
It's called slam dunking th
March 5, 2007 - 10:56 ET by liberal_bug_zapperIt's called slam dunking thank you very much. When you no longer see the hypocrisy on your side... it's time that our side begins shooting out the bottom of the boat so everyone has to sink or swim.
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