Explaining how Hillary Clinton isn't as popular with African-American voters as Bill was, MSNBC's Chris Matthews pointed to the former president's verbal skills as one of the reasons why when he proclaimed: "There are times when he sounds like Jesus in the temple." Matthews made that observation during a discussion with the Washington Post's Eugene Robinson where both cited Bill Clinton's performance at Coretta Scott King's funeral as a prime example of Slick Willie's oratory abilities. The following exchange took place about 30 minutes into last night's Hardball:
Eugene Robinson: "I mean, it's the one memorable speech from, from that funeral."
Chris Matthews: "And everybody else gave some written speech, and he said, 'There's a woman in there!'"
Robinson: "'A woman in there!'"
Matthews: "Oh!"
Robinson: "He just captured the moment-"
Matthews: "And cut to it!"
Robinson: "It was just amazing. It was amazing. But she didn't do that. She spoke next, and it just went completely flat."
Matthews: "I hate to pass on his lifestyle and questions like that, but there are times when he sounds like Jesus in the temple. I mean, amazing ability to transcend ethnicity, race, we call it, it's really ethnicity, in this country and, and speak to us all in this amazingly primordial way. And that's the only good thing I'll say about him tonight. Okay."
The following is the full discussion as it occurred on the February 28th Hardball:
Chris Matthews: "A new poll by The Washington Post and ABC News shows that black voters are abandoning Hillary Clinton to support Barack Obama. How's that, how bad is that for Clinton? Let's bring in the Hardballers. Today's Hardballers are Kate O'Beirne, I just love that phrase, Hardball, political analyst and Washington editor of the, I`m sorry, the Washington editor of The National Review. That was John McLaughlin's old job. And Gene Robinson is a columnist for the Washington Post itself. Your poll came out, sir, today. It showed that Hillary Clinton was beating, among African-Americans, Obama 60 to 20, beating him like a drum, and now he's beating her by about 10 points. What's happening?"
Eugene Robinson, Washington Post: "Well, you know I thought this would happen. People-"
Matthews: "Look at, look at how fast it moved! She was beating him three to one. Now he's up by 10 and he`s got the hot hand, it looks like."
Robinson: "Yeah, well, he, he's getting around, and, and African-Americans are getting to know Barack Obama. I mean, he was, he was you know, a two-year senator from Illinois."
Matthews: "He's passed the test?"
Robinson: "She, Hillary Clinton, has been around forever. And, and look, you know, it may be true, as Chris Rock said, that Bill Clinton was our first black president, but nobody every said that-"
Matthews: "I thought it was the poet who said that. What's her name?"
Robinson: "It could have been."
O'Beirne: "Maya Angelou."
Matthews: "Not Angelou the other woman, Toni Morrison."
O'Beirne: "Toni Morrison."
Matthews: "Toni Morrison."
Robinson: "Yeah, I guess it was. But in any event, they never said-"
Matthews: "Toni Morrison is correct."
Robinson: "They never said that Hillary Clinton was our first black first lady, I mean, and, and you know, you and I were sitting here during the Coretta King funeral-"
Matthews: "I don't think she has the advantage he has. I'm not black, obviously, but she had, he had the advantage of growing up in a black environment in the deep South where-"
Robinson: "And he had, he has this ability to speak to and really for black America that, that few people have, few white guys from Arkansas would have. But, but she doesn't have that, so."
Matthews: "He's alone in that way, isn't he?"
Robinson: "Yeah he is. He's quite something."
Matthews: "Jimmy Carter had a different kind of connection, but I mean, he strikes me as a guy that could, well, when I watched him at Mrs. King's funeral, I just have never seen anything like it."
Robinson: "You and I were sitting right here. It was the most amazing thing."
Matthews: "I have never seen anything like it."
Robinson: "I mean, it's the one memorable speech from, from that funeral."
Matthews: "And everybody else gave some written speech, and he said, 'There's a woman in there!'
Robinson: "'A woman in there!'"
Matthews: "Oh!"
Robinson: "He just captured the moment-"
Matthews: "And cut to it!"
Robinson: "It was just amazing. It was amazing. But she didn't do that. She spoke next, and it just went completely flat."
Matthews: "I hate to pass on his lifestyle and questions like that, but there are times when he sounds like Jesus in the temple. I mean, amazing ability to transcend ethnicity, race, we call it, it's really ethnicity, in this country and, and speak to us all in this amazingly primordial way. And that's the only good thing I'll say about him tonight. Okay."
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.
















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Funny, I thought Slick Willy
March 1, 2007 - 16:25 ET by Subsailor599Funny, I thought Slick Willy sounded more like the anti-christ.
The Jesus in James Cameron's
March 1, 2007 - 16:38 ET by tracheostomyThe Jesus in James Cameron's box maybe. . .
I'm sick and tired of when a liberal is making some profound; eloquent statement. . .that when observed a second time becomes totally ambiguous.
- Jesus was in the temple lots of times; twice to cleanse it. What's Chris saying?
- Only Jews were allowed into the temple, how is this transcending ethnicity or race? Maybe Chris is making an obscure ref. to Hellenistic Jews, but I wouldn't want to give him that much credit.
- Is this some kind of East Coast saying, like "pig in a poke?" Or something?
-PJ
"I'm not a theologist. I'm not an archaeologist. I'm a documentary filmmaker." -James Cameron
Matthews race obsession
March 1, 2007 - 18:31 ET by SportPoliticsMatthews race obsession.
"There's a woman in there" sounds like something a 5 year old would say. I guess Chris is astounded he didn't say "There's a black woman in there".
I wonder if Chris Matthews can ever have a black person on his show without making race a topic of conversation. I don't believe he can, or has, in decades.
Idiot Mathews.
March 1, 2007 - 16:40 ET by rbosque"Jesus"? Clinton advocates baby-killing. Perhaps a comparison can be made with Margaret Sanger, Hitler, Beelzebub. But "Jesus"?
Mathews, you are an ignorant @^#%$!
The last person in the worl
March 1, 2007 - 16:41 ET by Tim the EnchanterThe last person in the world he should be comparing Jesus to is Clinton. The comparison in itself is bogus. Did he personally listen to Jesus in the Temple? He's mesmerized by BJC? Fine. But I'll set my bar quite a bit higher.
If Clinton was called the fir
March 1, 2007 - 16:44 ET by muh-oonIf Clinton was called the first black president, can we call Carter the first female president?
Matthews and Robinson better
March 1, 2007 - 16:45 ET by Chicago RepublicanMatthews and Robinson better be careful. They are blaspheming Barrack Obama.
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According to libs Jesus was
March 1, 2007 - 17:01 ET by mtwokayAccording to libs Jesus was liberal. Ya know the baby murder verse and steal from those who earn it to give to those who don't beatitude.
Oh I forgot according to libs the bible is a "living document" to be rewritten/interpreted according to the times. Clinton could very well be the new incarnation of Jesus.
Matthews
March 1, 2007 - 17:03 ET by iveseenitallOnce again, Matthews shows what an ignorant person he is. Clinton is a con man, not a statesman. How did this jerk get on t.v.? Every day he says something more pathetic than the day before. As for his latest remarks--it's a sacrilege to comapre that piece of crap, Bill Clinton, to Jesus. Liberals are sickening.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
What the heck does this schmu
March 1, 2007 - 17:05 ET by dvdaughtryWhat the heck does this schmuck know about Jesus speaking in the temple?
Not to mention knowing what h
March 1, 2007 - 17:18 ET by walkNot to mention knowing what he would sound like.
"What the heck does this
March 1, 2007 - 18:49 ET by QueenMum"What the heck does this schmuck know about Jesus speaking in the temple?"
Yes. How about some specific comparisons. What it boils down to is Chris Matthews equating the character of BC to the character of Jesus based solely on Mr. Clinton's oratorical skill.
Perhaps James Cameron has found video of Christ speaking in the temple. That would explain how Matthews could make the comparison.
What did Jesus preach? Repen
March 2, 2007 - 10:53 ET by DyneWhat did Jesus preach? Repentance to the sinner, peace to the broken-hearted, salvation for the soul, and he openly denounced the hypocritical practices of the scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees. If he were to be preaching today, I doubt it would be the conservatives who would attempt to discredit him, secretly plan to kill him, or openly cry, "Crucify him!"
"And [Moroni] called it the Title of Liberty" - Alma 46:13
Somehow I just can't imagine
March 1, 2007 - 17:19 ET by i was just thinkingSomehow I just can't imagine hearing Jesus say anything like "I did not have sex with that woman...".
Wait a minute, though... I guess Chris has been listening to James Cameron.
(NO sacrilege intended on my part!)
I must have missed the parts
March 1, 2007 - 22:06 ET by HypocriteHaterI must have missed the parts in the bible where Jesus sexually harrassed his female followers.
Mathews
March 1, 2007 - 17:29 ET by PeterDClinton as Jesus is nothing if not laughable.
However, one of the most appalling comments Chris Matthews made about Bill Clinton was right after 9/11 when he lamented that the attack didn't occur when Bill Clinton was president instead of Bush. He repeatedly whined how Clinton was denied an opportunity to show his greatness. It was an unusually disgusting display he shared and moaned with Howard Fineman and his other Hardball cronies.
Those were some of the most o
March 1, 2007 - 19:06 ET by kathleenirishThose were some of the most offensive remarks I have ever heard. The indecency of them is breath-taking: how he spit on those innocent victims of 9/11 and what we all suffered that day...cheapening the horrifying experience by wishing for glory for his beloved President Scumbag Rapist Liar Clinton. There is no good to take from the loss of life! Only a liberal elite would come to such a conclusion.
Chris: we get it. You are in love with Clinton. Why don't you just come out and tell him you desire him body and soul. That's sure what it sounds and looks like to me. Remember when Clinton gave a speech, it may have been at the Democratic Convention, and Chris nearly peed himself with joyful anticipation at the "rock star" Bill Cllinton gracing those in attendance with his grandeur. 'Cuse me while I hurl, too many images of Clinton in my head at once. I admit it freely: I hate that jerk. Chrissie is a wanna-be butt-boy, and totally pathetic. Just like MSNBC.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
I heard this blather yesterda
March 1, 2007 - 17:35 ET by bigtimerI heard this blather yesterday...I was immediately appalled and turned it.
For me this is almost funny if it weren't so hypocritical coming from Matthews...I remember very well his nightly disdain and disgust for Bill Clintoon during his little troubles...which were constant between him and the Screechster.
Seems to me Jesus said there
March 1, 2007 - 17:37 ET by Dan The Man 2Seems to me Jesus said there would be many to say they were the messiah and all were spawn of Satan. So in a way Chris is right, just not the way he probably meant it.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Stunning stupidity. Jesus is
March 1, 2007 - 18:04 ET by QueenMumStunning stupidity. Jesus is not amused.
One thing Clinton does have i
March 1, 2007 - 18:10 ET by NL207One thing Clinton does have in common with Jesus: On Election day, he seems able to bring an awful lot of dead people back from the grave.
NL...Don't forget the pets to
March 1, 2007 - 18:17 ET by bigtimerNL...
Don't forget the pets too...living or dead!
LMAO!
I don't know for sure, but I'
March 1, 2007 - 18:58 ET by Scout FinchI don't know for sure, but I'll bet Clinton's had his feet (and likely more) 'cleaned' by a prostitute.
(All apologies if that sounds blasphemous to any other posters, although no more blasphemous that what Chrissy said.)
"There are times when he
March 1, 2007 - 18:34 ET by winston smith"There are times when he sounds like Jesus in the temple."
Don't be deceived, Chris. Jesus spent a life-time speaking the truth. Bill Clinton's success was built on lies.
How dare Matthews compare Jes
March 1, 2007 - 18:36 ET by HumanEventsHow dare Matthews compare Jesus with satan.
And boy, Chris '"f***ing ranch" Matthews is a good one to know what is like Jesus.
How can you tell when Bill Clinton is lying? His lips move. By contrast, Jesus is the way, the TRUTH, and the life. Well, at least they both felt pain. But Jesus felt His own pain at the cross, whereas Sick Willie said, "I feel your pain."
Hmmm how come Chris can mention Jesus without media complaint but Bush got tremendous flack for simply saying, "Christ, because He changed my heart" in response to the question, "What philosopher or thinker has most influenced your life and why?" And how come a high school girl mentions Jesus and it gets bleeped out? I guess because Bush and that girl were both exalting Jesus but Chris was exalting the Great Stainmaker! (and insulting Jesus in the process!)
You make some excellent point
March 1, 2007 - 18:54 ET by QueenMumYou make some excellent points, Human. It's all very confusing to try to determine when it's okay to mention Jesus and when it's not. I guess it's okay to secularize Jesus but not okay to claim Him as Savior.
Geezus....How would Chistian
March 1, 2007 - 18:48 ET by JayTeeGeezus....How would Chistian Matthews KNOW how Jesus sounds in a Temple ? ? That comment, like most of his commentary, cannot be substantiated with facts.
Bill Clinton can talk most Women into having a Cigar with him, and has honed his "communication" skills from years of trying to get Laid while still being married. He has had Great success, but not in the Temples.
At Times like these, it becomes more than just a Moral Obligation to express ones opinion, it becomes a Pleasure.