It might seem a little jarring in the wake of the religion-bashing bloggers ruining the John Edwards campaign, but the February 18 New York Times Magazine actually contained an article claiming "In the piety primary, the Democrats win hands down." Writer Gary Rosen claimed Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are not hard to envision in church among the faithful, but John McCain and Rudy Giuliani would probably be "fidgeting during the hymns and checking their watches." This is not surprising New York Times content. But here's the surprising part: Rosen is the managing editor of the neoconservative journal Commentary. Here's how Rosen began:
Try a quick political thought experiment. First, form a mental picture of the Democratic front-runners for president — Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Now do the same for the leading Republican contenders — John McCain and Rudy Giuliani. Next (and this is the key step), imagine each of them in church, sitting in a pew, head bowed, or better still, at the pulpit, delivering a homily or leading the congregation in worship.
Strange, no? It’s not hard to envision Clinton and Obama among the faithful. She is a lifelong Methodist and self-described “praying person,” and he belongs to a church where some years ago he found himself (in his own words) “kneeling beneath that cross” in submission “to His will.” Both slip easily into the earnest, humble-of-the-earth mode of liberal God talk.
But McCain and Giuliani? You somehow imagine them fidgeting during the hymns and checking their watches. The senator is an Episcopalian, the former mayor a Catholic, but neither man, you have to think, would be caught dead in a Bible-study group or could possibly declare, à la George W. Bush, that his favorite philosopher is “Christ, because he changed my heart.” In the piety primary, the Democrats win hands down.
Rosen then openly displayed his hostility to the religious right (and secular left), hoping for social moderation, even if the New York Times thinks a social "moderate" is someone wholly in favor of the liberal status quo:
What a matchup between churchgoing Democrats and secular-minded Republicans may supply, though, is welcome moderation in our debates over issues like abortion, gay marriage and stem-cell research. God knows, both sides of the ideological divide have fundamentalists in need of taming.
On the right, the culprits are familiar, having become stock characters in our politics. In his unsuccessful run for the Republican nomination in 2000, McCain called them “the agents of intolerance,” singling out Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. For a taste of their views, you can visit the Web site of Concerned Women for America (C.W.A.), which bills itself as the “nation’s largest public-policy women’s organization.” Its mission is “to protect and promote biblical values among all citizens,” the Bible being “the inerrant Word of God and the final authority on faith and practice.” As for dissenters from C.W.A.’s stand on issues like the “sanctity of human life,” a handy link to Bible passages explains “why you are a sinner and deserve punishment in Hell.”
A number of observers on the right, including Jeffrey Hart of National Review, Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute and the blogger Andrew Sullivan, have performed a service lately by denouncing the G.O.P.’s pact with such authoritarian bullies.
Reader, beware. Before you join in lamenting the "authoritarian bullies" at CWA, please be aware of how Rosen misconstrued the aforementioned CWA webpage on Bible passages. It is a very conventional evangelical exposition of passages pointing to the need for all people to accept Jesus Christ as Lord. It does not reserve Hell for only those people who are "dissenters from CWA's stand on issues."
This means that you are a sinner and deserve punishment in Hell. God, however, has made a way for you to join Him in Heaven instead. Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sins. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.
Rosen has every right to find this gospel unconvincing and disagree with CWA's belief in an inerrant Bible. But he was not right to mislead New York Times consumers into thinking CWA tells everyone who disagrees with their agenda that they are Hell-bound if they step out of line.
As for Rosen's unconventional views about the Democrats and religion, his Contentions blog on the Commentary website offered more love for Barack Obama:
First, a confession: I really like Barack Obama. I like his look, his poise, his ready intelligence. His voice is a marvelous instrument, and he is unusually articulate (especially for a . . . politician). Watching him announce his candidacy on Saturday, I found myself cheering along, pleased that a black man with an exotic name was standing where Lincoln stood and eloquently invoking his example. And I’ve been impressed by the patriotic breadth of his rhetoric.
But Rosen also struck notes that the New York Times probably didn't wish to stress:
Though Obama speaks openly about the importance of his own faith and regrets the liberal tendency to chase religious believers from the public square, his views are utterly predictable on all the hot-button issues of the culture war, from abortion and gay rights to stem-cell research. Moreover, his own religiosity is hardly mainstream. The church on Chicago’s South Side to which he has long belonged—and where he had his conversion experience—is Afrocentric, with overtones of black separatism. Its principles include a “disavowal of the pursuit of ‘middleclassness’” (along with, it should be said, a commitment to the black family and work ethic).
Wouldn't that seem to suggest that maybe Obama isn't really winning the piety primary "hands down"? And wouldn't it also mean that Obama is hardly offering the promise of "welcome moderation" on social issues like abortion?
(Hat tip: Harrison Scott Key)
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center



















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And the Bible says we shall
February 22, 2007 - 14:05 ET by Dan The Man 2And the Bible says we shall know them by their fruits. And remember when Jesus saw the tree beside Him bore no fruit, He cursed the tree and it withered and died. So deeds are more important than actions and the Pharcees of Jsus' time made the same mistake of equating show with truth and actions.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Yeah that's how I make decisions - my overactive imagination
February 22, 2007 - 16:05 ET by SportPoliticsYeah that's how I make decisions - my overactive imagination.
Pew parked Obama wants a cig, and Hitlary is internally cussing out God for Bill's philandering.
Well, that settles it, the GOP wins the piety sweepstakes.
( I'm beginning to wonder if the msm has also gone utterly insane )
John Kerry is refused the Sacrament of Communion for his baby murder support. Another winner in the religiosity sweeps for dems.
( Someone beat with a bat so I go unconscious, then I can accept the msm dogma)
Rosen's article is incredibl
February 22, 2007 - 14:14 ET by GalvanicRosen's article is incredibly crafty tripe. Imagine if the Washington Times wrote: "One can easily picture George W. Bush in a pew, praying, head down in reverance of the Lord. But one can also imagine Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama figeting in their seats, looking at their watches. When it comes to piety, the Republicans win the primary"
The Washington Times would be burned in effigy by the MSM for pandering to the Religious Right, and smearing the names of Demo candidates by suggesting they aren't sincere in their faiths.
I used the adjective crafty, because it very cleverly dovetails with other MSM attempts to raise doubts amongst religious conservatives as to the religious commitment of GOP candidates. The first shot was the revelation of the Foley scandal timed to impact the '06 election. During that campaign and since, the MSM has cooperated with Dem campaign managers in projecting images of the religious commitments of Dem candidates, often capturing little sound bites of Dems quoting the Bible, or acknowledging God. Watch for more such antics over the next couple of years.
Crafty, indeed, Galvanic. W
February 23, 2007 - 00:34 ET by Scout FinchCrafty, indeed, Galvanic. With the MSM, it's all about 'imagery'. Their version of it.
Wow some more incredible nons
February 22, 2007 - 16:13 ET by HumanEventsWow some more incredible nonsense from the NY Slimes via Gary Rosen. The lying, corrupt, vicious Democrats win the piety primary hands down, he says. Yeah and Mike Tyson wins the gentleness award hands down!
When did the Dragon Lady ever even mention God in her life? I can't recall once. "She's a lifelong Methodist and self-described 'praying person'." is his reasons for considering her the overwhelming victor in piety. How absurd! He even mentions McCain and Rudy being an Episcopalian and Catholic respectively, so why does she get an advantage for simply having a church affiliation? And self-described praying person?? Yeah self-described, so how do you know how often she prays? I've never seen her pray once so I'm supposed to easily "envision" her doing so in church? And why believe anything she says anyway when she lies all the time? (I suppose Gary Rosen still believes she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary because she said she was). And what about George Bush saying he reads the Bible every morning? How come you don't consider him a pious person?
Sorry Mr. Rosen. You wrote a pathetic piece designed solely to hope people who take religion seriously will think Obama and the Hildabeast are people of great faith in God.
You're exactly right, Galvanic. We'll see more of this in order to try to help the Dems win more of the Christian vote. But when it comes to sound bites of a Dem quoting the Bible we should welcome that, since so many Dems have hilariously shown their ignorance of the Bible by botching the quotes. Like when Howard Dean said his favorite book of the New Testament is Job!
You totally misunderstood How
February 23, 2007 - 00:36 ET by Scout FinchYou totally misunderstood Howard Dean, HE. Dean meant jobs, as in goverment jobs. Silly rabbit!
Before I buy into any of this
February 22, 2007 - 16:47 ET by ucBefore I buy into any of this would someone please confirm that Obama and/or Hillary ever learned the meanings of the words/passages and are not just having a rosie without the thorns and such reality side trip. Their possible denial may still be of concern and may still be a working alternate reality.
Do we need to start a Geffen defense fund?
The Republicans DO seem to ha
February 22, 2007 - 17:19 ET by john ryanThe Republicans DO seem to have has more than a fair share of marriages. Family values are important to the base.
Wow an obvious attempted sme
February 22, 2007 - 17:29 ET by AtheistRepublicanWow an obvious attempted smear with little fact. What do thought experiments have to do with reality and who on earth can imagine Hillary doing anything but talking? Biggest flaw in this though is that only the leftists take the NY Times serious and they tend to be antitheists anyway so, if it has any effect on anyone its beneficial to our side.
AR, I have difficulty imagini
February 23, 2007 - 22:28 ET by MikeBAR, I have difficulty imagining Hillary talking. She seems to do a doodoo load of shrieking and screaming, but talking? She also does a good job of fantasizing a "vast right wing conspiracy", and she fantasizes nationalizing health care and the energy industry.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Since when is piety a politic
February 22, 2007 - 18:21 ET by mattmSince when is piety a political virtue? And since when is religiosity (read Christianity) anything other than evidence that a candidate is some kind of a nut who should be kept as far away from public office as possible?
The Party of Saline Burned Fe
February 23, 2007 - 01:43 ET by mastersofdeceitThe Party of Saline Burned Fetuses wins on piety hands down? Um, ok.
There's a very simple way t
February 23, 2007 - 10:27 ET by DyneThere's a very simple way to run this test, and it can work for a person of any faith. I'll use Christians as my example (since I've been asked these questions as a Mormon).
If a man claims to be a devout Christian and has a firm knowledge of what his denomination believes, ask one or more of the following questions:
How many of the Ten Commandments can you name?
How many books of the Old/New Testament can you name?
How often and how sincerely do you pray?
And so on. Similar simple questions may be asked for those of other faiths. Those with piety don't just go to church for an hour each Sunday, they live according to their beliefs.
"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone." - Bill Cosby
It is not the ten commandment
February 23, 2007 - 17:59 ET by Dan The Man 2It is not the ten commandments you can name but the ones you understand. Or the book of the Bible or scripture from memory. It is what they understand the Bible says and what it means and who wrote it and why it is true. The question for instance of why Jesus is God and the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God and they are one and not three seperate individuals.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.