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Associated Press Masters New MathAt the Fox News site, an AP story entitled Senate Gridlocked on Iraq Troop Buildup has as its first paragraph of copy:
Back when I was in high school, 60 minus six equalled 54, not 56. I begin to ask myself, is AP truly biased, or is their staff so uneducated that they are unable to formulate a cogent thought? 
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Apparently this is a new repo
February 17, 2007 - 16:10 ET by MikeBApparently this is a new reporter who recently came up through the public school system where "self esteem" is considered to be of greater concern than being able to do simple arithmetic. You should thank God that this person is a reporter rather than a construction engineer. Would you want this person to design a building using this kind of math in his/her strength of materials calculations?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
I seriously doubt he could
February 17, 2007 - 19:37 ET by 1sttofightI seriously doubt he could pass the engineering courses. You know the old saying, When you flunk out of everything else, There is always Journalism
Gee 1st,I thought it was....&
February 17, 2007 - 19:41 ET by BlondeGee 1st,
I thought it was...."those who can do, those who can't, teach it".
Howard...In answer to your qu
February 17, 2007 - 16:16 ET by bigtimerHoward...
In answer to your question.....
BOTH!
Btw...great catch!
So, Howard, you really want an answer to this question?
February 17, 2007 - 16:20 ET by acaiguanaSo, Howard, you really want an answer to this question?
"I begin to ask myself, is AP truly biased, or is their staff so uneducated that they are unable to formulate a cogent thought?"
Math is hard. Soooo Hard. And J-school BS degrees (I'm not sure why they get a 'science' appended rather than an 'arts' but they have more lobbying power than I do in Universities) do not require - ugh...math.
Does that clear it up?
How about, since the degree doesn't require 'math' then impaired brains go into journalism?
I dunno.
I've not been overly impressed with the ever changing (3,000, 2,500, 2,400, 1,200) scientists that make up the UN IPCC reporters either. These are the 'majority' of scientists?
Not trying to derail the thread, just wondering out loud.
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
It's Not Math
February 17, 2007 - 21:40 ET by Howard NemerovMathematics to me is sovling for an unknown variable, beginning with algebra. This was an arithmetic error, one that should have been resolved by second grade. Without a high school degree or equivalent, a student cannot enter college. Even worse, they could have used a calculator, unless they don't know how to use that confusing red button with the dash on it. :-(
Well, Howard, thanks for the response. You are somewhat
February 18, 2007 - 07:51 ET by acaiguanaWell, Howard, thanks for the response. You are somewhat right of course.
However, my point was really the type of mental acumen required to 'learn' math might do some critical thinking skills better. So, there you have it.
Yes, my point was sarcastically made, however, if you have listened or read the comments made by the MSM over the years regarding their statistical base for opinions or POV then you would be as frustrated as I am.
For example, at one time during the breast cancer push, some Liberal wag mentioned that 1 out of 3 women would develop breast cancer. My first thought was, "Where do they get these wonderful numbers?"
Another more obscene example was the report published just prior to the electon in 2006 about Iraq casualties. A number that even the academic panel (name escapes me but freuently quoted in the MSM) should have been red faced about.
More importantly is the skew put on polls. By adding together those who 'somewhat disagree' with those who 'strongly disagree' we get told that X percent are against Y. Now, I have no real issue with some representation of people being against Y, but they are not all in the same pile, are they?
But my most favorite this past year and currently has to do with Global Warming. Somehow, 2,500, 2,400, 1,200 UN paid scientists are supposed to represent the Global Science community. Now, we can all agree, if they would simply keep their figures stable, that these numbers do represent a small convention of scientists in Las Vegas, but nothing spectacular.
If there were any perspective on the part of the MSM they would have to admit that these numbers also do not represent a statistically relevant number of scientists either here in the US or in the Global Science community (whatever that is?).
So, while I accept your point about 'mathematics'; I still say that reporters and J-school graduates (not always the same thing) need to take some basic coursework in mathematics; in economics (another area I'll be glad to talk with you about); and in logic.
I don't see a lot of these skills in current MSM reporting.
I do understand their sympathies lie with the 'underdog' and that they actually believe that they are the arbiters of PC information and interpretation of events to us 'plebes' of the great unwashed mass. I also understand that they need to make a living, using words that sensationalize events beyond their importance to get the ink and the air time.
But I'm really tired of being taken for the fool by poorly educated fools.
//end rant and
//start kudus. Thanks for the article. It opens a door for idiots like me who still think 10-6 = 4, rather than 6. :-)
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
Good Points
February 18, 2007 - 09:54 ET by Howard NemerovACA - I only hope that the easy access to media outlets enables more "independents" to see how bankrupt these people are. "Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves."
AP must have had problems wit
February 17, 2007 - 16:22 ET by JayTeeAP must have had problems with getting people to show up on Saturday, Just like the 10 missing Senators....I think OBAMA and HILLARY were both missing, as they had more important things going than voting on this DUMB resolution.
I watched the Senate Debate..........the Best line in the Debate was in Response to several who talked about "Un-usual Sat. Work Day" for the Senate.....I think (not sure) the NC senator said a lot of people were "working" on Saturday, including those in IRAQ, but what the Senate was doing was NOT WORK.....it was something else other than a Senatorial workload.
I find it disgusting, that the some in the Congress complain about "BAD INTELLIGENCE" got us in the IRAQ WAR, and then proceed to Lecture and Create BAD INTELLIGENCE of their own, as to What is going on into IRAQ. The DEM talking point seems to be it's a "Civil War" now, and we need to keep our Troops out of the Cross fire of the fighting factions, (Sunni/Shite) Civillians. That is a weak attempt, and unfortunately a Republican (Warner) is pushing this "Intelligence". I wonder how those "Market Place" Bombs only Kill Shites ? ? and not Sunni's, and vice versa.
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.”
President Abraham Lincoln
I don't get it, perhaps Balbo
February 17, 2007 - 16:31 ET by MikeBI don't get it, perhaps Balboa or one of the insane lib trolls can explain it to me: if they don't want U.S. troops in Iraq because it is now a civil war, why was it jim dandy for Clinton to send troops to Bosnia? Was that because the great Stainmaker was a Democratic, and when Democratics are President it is the moral duty of the U.S. to be the world's policeman? Why do they want U.S. troops in Darfur? Or, is it that we should only send troops to where there is no over-riding U.S. national interest?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
"the great Stainmaker&qu
February 17, 2007 - 16:38 ET by NeoConfirmed"the great Stainmaker"
Classic, Mike. Classic.
Thanks for the laugh.
Simple answer....Teddy voted
February 17, 2007 - 16:25 ET by NeoConfirmedSimple answer....Teddy voted three times. But don't blame him, he's used to sleeping in until noon on Saturdays.
Hm, either AP corrected its m
February 17, 2007 - 17:05 ET by kafkakaeferHm, either AP corrected its mistake or foxnews is the one unable to calculate!
"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.
They aren't the only ones-
February 18, 2007 - 01:05 ET by CarpareusThey aren't the only ones kafkakaefer-
try the My Way News version. Do you have a link to a news site maintained by AP alone?
My image capture software is not functioning so I can't grab an image at My Way News for future reference. Also I am back using Opera as I seem to be unable to format links correctly when using Firefox.
Troll
February 18, 2007 - 09:44 ET by Howard NemerovSorry guys for removing some very funny comments, but they are off topic. KAF is a troll, and I decided to remove off-topic comments.
To the one on-topic: I have a lot of fun citing reports from Fox News, because Fox is alleged to be the mouthpiece of the "vast right-wing conspiracy." I love it when somebody posts a comment that my accreditation is invalid for that reason. Then I point out that the source is AP, which invalidates their entire diaper-wetting episode. Fox merely is a gateway for AP. To be otherwise would give some real ammunition to the accusation that Fox somehow manipulates their source reporting, something that the MSM NEVER does, right? :-)
Howard,New math.Where a margi
February 17, 2007 - 19:36 ET by BlondeHoward,
New math.
Where a margin of victory <= 1% equals a mandate.
To answer your question, though, who knows? Either way, it's pathetic, professionally, to publish something like that.
OK, Howard, a new theory.
February 17, 2007 - 19:40 ET by acaiguanaOK, Howard, a new theory.
It's a margin of error?
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
ACA,Statistically relevant ma
February 17, 2007 - 19:43 ET by BlondeACA,
Statistically relevant margin, tho.
Or, as I might be inclined to say...."material".
More than one 'standard' deviation off?
February 17, 2007 - 19:47 ET by acaiguanaMore than one 'standard' deviation off?
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
Geez, ACA,It's Saturday.But j
February 17, 2007 - 19:51 ET by BlondeGeez, ACA,
It's Saturday.
But just eyeballing it...yeah.
So it's "material".
Like a $1.5M error on a $20M transaction.
Um, OK Blonde, Hey - Howard - it's an order of magnitude error.
February 17, 2007 - 19:53 ET by acaiguanaUm, OK Blonde, Hey - Howard - it's an order of magnitude error.
Not too good there for the MSMers.
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
ACA,I knew you'd see things m
February 17, 2007 - 19:54 ET by BlondeACA,
I knew you'd see things my way....
Numerate people always do. ;-)
Senate Vote
February 17, 2007 - 21:17 ET by PawpawNAnyone have who voted and how? Maybe a link. & the reason they said 6 is because they're so use to turning numbers around, they say the 34 instead of 56. Just another way the MSM tries to confuse everyone.
adding up the numbers
February 17, 2007 - 22:22 ET by missvotingforreaganTo quote Jimmy Buffet from 'Beach House on the Moon', "Math sucks"
Math does not suck. It, unl
February 17, 2007 - 23:43 ET by amberMath does not suck. It, unlike science, does not need a theory, or a consensus. Look at people here, 60-6 is 54. No big lab expenditures to figure that one out. Math is a cornerstone of our national security. Beauty on paper. Eloquence without words. Journalism is what sucks, or blows, whichever.
60-6 is only 54 if you feel g
February 17, 2007 - 23:46 ET by gfrrman60-6 is only 54 if you feel good about it.... :-)
Or unless you graduated from
February 17, 2007 - 23:52 ET by BlondeOr unless you graduated from journalism school.
In which case...you're um, a few sandwiches shy of a picnic.
2 + 2 = 5 for large values
February 18, 2007 - 01:02 ET by MikeB2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."
Ronald Reagan
Check their resumes
February 17, 2007 - 23:28 ET by nkviking75Check their resumes. Do they include "2000 Florida election judge" in their job experience?
I'm waiting for Ellen Goodm
February 18, 2007 - 00:13 ET by wiwfI'm waiting for Ellen Goodman to come out and say that anyone who is a 56+6=60 denier is on par with being a Holocaust denier.
Does the Associated Press m
February 18, 2007 - 00:50 ET by CarpareusDoes the Associated Press maintain a website (or part of their corporate site) for news releases that they alone are responsible for updating?
They don't teach math in jo
February 18, 2007 - 01:20 ET by liberal_bug_zapperThey don't teach math in journalism school. I think that all journalists should be required to get graduate degrees in history before being allowed to be journalists, and we all know that math is a pre-requisite for normal degrees.
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
Six to one, half a dozen to the other.
February 18, 2007 - 10:57 ET by austinhookQuestion is why whould a liberal jounalist (they're all liberal, right), why would he inflate a conservative success?