Joining the media ranks of Helen Thomas and Keith Olbermann, in his regular Friday column in USA Today Al Neuharth, the founder of the nationwide daily, proclaimed George W. Bush to be the worst ever President. Announcing a “mea culpa,” Neuharth recalled how “a year ago I criticized Hillary Clinton for saying 'this (Bush) administration will go down in history as one of the worst.'” At the time, he declared her “wrong,” explaining: “I rated these five Presidents, in this order, as the worst: Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Ulysses Grant, [Herbert] Hoover and Richard Nixon. 'It's very unlikely Bush can crack that list,' I added. I was wrong. This is my mea culpa. Not only has Bush cracked that list, but he is planted firmly at the top.” Neuharth fretted that “Bush didn't learn the value or meaning of mea culpa (acknowledgment of an error) during his years at Yale,” but “Bush admitting his many mistakes on Iraq and ending that fiasco might make many of us forgive, even though we can never forget the terrible toll in lives and dollars.”
Back in May of 2004, Neuharth used his column to urge Bush to not run for re-election. From the May 18, 2004 MRC CyberAlert:
Blaming President Bush's "cowboy culture" for the "biggest military mess miscreated in the Oval Office and miscarried by the Pentagon in my 80-year lifetime," USA Today founder Al Neuharth urged a withdrawal from Iraq and that Bush "should take a cue from a fellow Texan, former President Lyndon Baines Johnson" who did not run for re-election as he "turned tail and rode off into the sunset of his Texas ranch."
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Does he watch '24'?JDWWound
February 16, 2007 - 16:23 ET by JDWDoes he watch '24'?
"biggest military mess miscreated in the Oval Office and miscarried by the Pentagon in my 80-year lifetime"
Seems to have forgotten mission aspirin factory
JDW
Wounded skier. Corrections have been causing time-outs so mistakes will be made.
New pro-adoption dems, what about replacing abortions?
Sense of HIstory
February 17, 2007 - 11:11 ET by allanfFor an octegenarian, this man lacks any sense of history. To call a small conflict with 3000 fatalities in 3.5 years the worst military mess in 80 years is beyond foolish. We have had military messes in the last eighty years that had more people killed in a matter of hours or days. Try the Battle of the Bulge, or the pre-D-Day Naval exercise in which 2000 perished.
In terms of putting Jackson on his list, can Neuharth cogently describe the political and social situation during Jackson's Administration. Jackson was a complex man who lived in troubling times and did much to keep this nation together as a functioning Republic.
Once again I gotta ask....&qu
February 16, 2007 - 16:31 ET by BDOnce again I gotta ask....
"What is wrong with Cowboys?" The left is constantly railing against them, but I gotta tell you they are the most trustworthy people you can find.
I would trust a cowboy to hold my wallet long before I would trust an ACLU attourney.....
Yeah they do seem to detest c
February 16, 2007 - 17:53 ET by HumanEventsYeah they do seem to detest cowboys. Probably because they reflect too much of the great American tradition. However, there are always exceptions to the rule. Like the MSM love former Army general Wesley Clark even though they generally disdain the miitary. In this case, the exception to the cowboy hating rule is the cowboys in Brokeback Mountain.
To them the only good cowbo
February 17, 2007 - 11:33 ET by Eric TurnerTo them the only good cowboy is a gay cowboy!
We on the left trust and resp
February 17, 2007 - 11:58 ET by Dave HighWe on the left trust and respect cowboys. It's the carpetbagger from Conneticut who claims to be cowboy that we don't trust.
Regards, Dave High
"I will never be out-Texaned again." ~ George W. Bu upon his first and only politically defeat to a real Texan, Kent Hance
...and don't forget the carpe
February 17, 2007 - 12:08 ET by gfrrman...and don't forget the carpetbagger that is the Senator from NY....HRC
gfrrman - Now don't be a trol
February 17, 2007 - 12:31 ET by Dave Highgfrrman - Now don't be a troll! This thread is about President Bush being the worst president ever and has nothing to do with HRC! Besides, I always thought that to be a carpetbagger, you had to be an evil, self serving Northerner who goes down South to prey on the poor and misbegotten. I don't think the definition applies to a Southerner who moves up North and wins overwhelming approval from her constituents.
Regards, Dave High
Actually, Hilly moved from th
February 17, 2007 - 18:54 ET by Del DolemonteActually, Hilly moved from the North (Chicago) down South (Arkansas) to prey on people decades ago. So the definition is correct.
Come on, Del.You're confusing
February 17, 2007 - 18:56 ET by BlondeCome on, Del.
You're confusing High Dave with facts.
Not fair. Bringing a gun to a knife fight.
Especially the ridiculous silly movie ones.
February 17, 2007 - 12:19 ET by acaiguanaEspecially the ridiculous silly movie ones. With broken backs.
We on the left trust and respect cowboys. It's the carpetbagger from Conneticut who claims to be cowboy that we don't trust.
Of course, that trust and respect doesn't extend to Chris Matthews who wants someone who doesn't own a f***ing ranch in the White House.
Right, Dave High?
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
Seeing as how GWB was raised
February 20, 2007 - 17:14 ET by BDSeeing as how GWB was raised in West Texas, who would that "Carpet bagger" from Connecticut be?
HRC? Oooopps, she was from Illinois....
Neuharth is only 80? From his
February 16, 2007 - 16:35 ET by Chris NormanNeuharth is only 80? Really? From his inane ramblings, I would've guessed much older...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
"Neuharth is only 80?
February 16, 2007 - 17:38 ET by ckc1227"Neuharth is only 80? Really? From his inane ramblings, I would've guessed much older..."
His IQ, however, is clearly lower.
The Tri Color Fish Wrap Has Spoken
February 16, 2007 - 16:38 ET by RiharWell the tri-color fish-wrap has spoken.
When someone speaks from such a lofty position as Al here we should all take notice. Why aren't more national policy decisions made from editorials chiding our leaders? It seems like such a logical way to make decisions.
"sarcasmometer readings off the scale!"
When a liberal speaks, the truth is busy elsewhere.
What military mess is he talk
February 16, 2007 - 16:43 ET by Clear thinkerWhat military mess is he talking about? I have yet to see a military mess in Iraq and unless our military starts fighting in the nude I don't expect to ever see them mess up. They are, and always be the best military in the world!
DAMN RIGHT!!!
February 16, 2007 - 18:00 ET by josephsamuelsonDAMN RIGHT!!!
Hey Alfred E Newman, when did
February 16, 2007 - 16:44 ET by HumanEventsHey Alfred E Newman, when did Bill Clinton ever do any mea culpa for all of his actual scandals (as opposed to George Bush's Iraq war policy disagreements you have with him [which you liberal Dems were all supporting in 2002 and 2003 anyway]? It was always, "I am guilty of no wrongdoing", "This allegation is a bunch of bull", "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", and the gazillion "I don't recall" "I don't remember" "I don't recollect that" lines. The only two times I think The Great Stainmaker apologized was (1) when he said "I am sorry" regarding slavery in the 18th century (Democrats are only willing to apologize for things they know they had nothing to do with. That way it sounds good and they know people know it wasn't really their fault) and (2) In August 1998 when he said regarding Monica Lewinski, "I misled you. And for that I deeply regret it." He misled, not lied. He regrets (that he got caught) but wasn't sorry. And then he used the rest of the five minutes to bash Kenneth Starr and Republicans. Such a poster child he is for demonstrating a mea culpa!
USA Today! Ha! It should be called Liberalism Today to be accurate. But that would admit to a leftist bias so thus the "USA" in the title, as if it's a neutral, objective paper.
Good lord!!! Are you seriousl
February 17, 2007 - 16:07 ET by curiousGood lord!!! Are you seriously comparing lying about an extramarital blow job to lying about going to war? Does your Clinton hating know no bounds? This posting, just like the debacle in the Middle East, has NOTHING to do with Clinton. It is all Bush (and Cheney) on this one.
Curious, I'm curious....Why i
February 17, 2007 - 16:12 ET by NeoConfirmedCurious, I'm curious....
Why is Clintonhate worse than Bushhate?
So, curious, you obviously do not understand 'lying' do you?
February 17, 2007 - 16:33 ET by acaiguanaSo, curious, you obviously do not understand 'lying' do you?
A 'lie' requires that one has deliberate motive to obscure or twist or hide what the 'liar' knows is the truth. Now, are you seriously saying that Bush and only Bush 'knew' that the intelligence was either:
1) completely different than what was presented to Congress and the Public?
2) non-existent and therefore 'created out of whole cloth' to deceive the Public?
Therefore Bush deliberately set out knowing the 'truth' to be different about the intelligence and then 'lied' to manipulate America into a war and as President of the United States send our troops off for spurious reasons.
This would be interesting to know as either or both are required for Bush to have 'lied'. I'd sorta like to see your sources on this.
But you won't provide a source because you cannot provide a source.
Thus, your completely stupid and inane assumption or premise is blown out of the water here.
So, I for one, would really appreciate it if you would stop with the 'lie' stuff from now on. It's crap.
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
Libs use "lie" as c
February 17, 2007 - 16:44 ET by ThisnThatLibs use "lie" as curious does for two reasons:
1) To consolidate or draw people into their world. No one likes a lier and so it grabs attention, regardless of the truth
2) To cover up their complete ignorance and stupidity. It's like a chain letter -- gotta say lie ten times today or you break the chain.
Anyone with half a brain always cites their sources -- unless they know they will never be called on it. Libs have protection -- it's called the MOB (er, MSM). With MSM bias so great, you can do a lot of foolish things, and say a lot of stupid remarks, and flip-flop like crazy, because you never have to answer critics. You are always protected.
Curious, just curious
February 17, 2007 - 18:50 ET by UnsaneCurious, I realize you love Bill Clinton for PERSONALLY feeding, clothing, and sheltering every single American from 1993 to 2001, and for ensuring photosynthesis happened every single day, and forcing the sun to rise from the east every single day, but bear with me on this, for I am just curious...
What part of "committing perjury" do you not understand? I don't give a rat's ass what he lied about...if it were you and me we would still be rotting in jail for perjury.
And many thanks for admitting you are 100% brainwashed by the media. As soon as one of the jets patrolling the no-fly zones got illuminated by SAM radar, the casus belli existed. Before you come back here whining about how Bush is evil because "he lied", I suggest you go over the 1991 cease-fire agreement, and the 16 UN Resolutions concerning Iraq.
Very, very, carefully.
- Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."
USA founder Al Neuharth decla
February 16, 2007 - 17:01 ET by Clear thinkerUSA founder Al Neuharth declared worst Publisher ever!
BINGO. I didn't realize Neuha
February 16, 2007 - 17:58 ET by josephsamuelsonBINGO.
I didn't realize Neuharth had signed up to be an antichrist. Good to know.
Jude 1:8-10
(8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion [just men and righteous government], and speak evil of dignities [those of good or Christian reputation].
(9) Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke thee."
(10) But these speak evil of those things which they know [understand] not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things [in their slander and brazen accusations] they corrupt themselves.
George Bush is the GREATEST P
February 16, 2007 - 18:14 ET by josephsamuelsonGeorge Bush is the GREATEST President ever ... no other President has had to push through more psycho-liberal b.s. than G.W. Bush in order to get things done.
My Top 5
1 - George Bush
2 - Ronald Reagan
3 - Abraham Lincoln
4 - George Washington
5 - Theodore Roosevelt
Where would you put William Henry Harrison
February 16, 2007 - 18:31 ET by Carl KolchakWhere would you rank William Henry Harrison?
"I've always been crazy, but it's kept me from going insane" Waylon Jennings
Aw man, ole WHH couldn't crac
February 16, 2007 - 21:40 ET by Roger the ShrubberAw man, ole WHH couldn't crack my top ten. If only he had his topcoat to his inauguration...
I agree with you joseph that
February 16, 2007 - 20:35 ET by HumanEventsI agree with you joseph that G W Bush has been attacked more viciously than any other President in history. But I would rank your other 4 above him.
About a week ago radio talk show host Mark Levin played a lengthy speech given by Ronald Reagan. It was so incredibly well spoken, full of truth and wisdom, and boldly refuted lots of liberal arguments. It was another powerful reminder of just what an amazing treasure we had with Ronald Reagan. If only Bush and other Republicans had the guts to systematically dissect liberal deception today.
Presidential rankings
February 17, 2007 - 11:44 ET by Eric TurnerFirst let me state that I hate wikipedia. That said, they have a pretty good article about presidential rankings (read: the rankings are imported from other sites). But it's worth a read I suppose - or at least a glance.
Anybody, ANYBODY, who would l
February 17, 2007 - 16:13 ET by curiousAnybody, ANYBODY, who would list GWB as the greatest president ever, or RWR as the second best, is obviously a clueless ideologue, not a historian. Most likely another product of our vaunted public school system, and probably a dropout to boot.
Watch it Curious....Although
February 17, 2007 - 16:27 ET by NeoConfirmedWatch it Curious....
Although Joseph is definitely caught up in the moment with Bush on top, Reagan firmly belongs in the top 5, with Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson and Roosevelt.
Clueless ideology
February 17, 2007 - 18:53 ET by UnsaneAnd YOU are not a clueless ideologue?
You must be. Any denial you wish to retort with is sharply and completely contradicted by your history of posting on NB.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Seems Neuharth is "gambl
February 16, 2007 - 18:49 ET by ucSeems Neuharth is "gambling with failure" (Tony Snow today) even more than the Democrats in Congress. >If you have seen todays WH briefing, you might want to<
History is probably going to record President Bush as admitting to more errors (mea culpas) in foreign policies than actually will have been deemed to have occured.
I am waiting to see how Senate votes before saying much more, though it seems America is still fighting its own civil war today >> why else would we need police forces of our own? You know in our own streets? Maybe we can send 2/3rds of such forces from Blue states/cities to Iraq and Afganistan (maybe just for one month) so MSM can gain some hope and perspective.
Would Saddam now have his nuclear program up and running as right to defend himself from Iran today and keeping his neighbors angry at US even more just for the memory of all past US support of Saddam Hussein? So USA today isn't just a carpet saver for finished hotel room service?
Grant? Grant!? If Grant is
February 16, 2007 - 18:57 ET by CrimsonfistedGrant? Grant!? If Grant is on his list I am going to rethink and research the others as well.
WhatAMaroon
This man is a typical nearsig
February 16, 2007 - 19:09 ET by NL207This man is a typical nearsighted liberal.
The first three are reported through the lens of a responsible history. The last two are seen only in the light of a leftwing media cabal. Neither Nixon nor Hoover can compare with the two jerks that do belong on that list. Those two men ran the singularly MOST corrupt administrations in American history. As much corruption as Grant engendered with his Indian and Railroad policies, these two exceeded. Their administrations have the singular distinctions of having produced the two greatest quantities of criminal convictions. These fine gentlemen were Warren Harding, whose appointees engineered among other things, the Teapot Dome scandal, and none other than our own William Jefferson Clinton, who had more felons in his administration than the next two contenders, Grant and Harding, combined. It is ironic to note that Al Gore, during the Clinton Administration, was instrumental in selling the very Teapot Dome oil reserve that was the subject of the great Harding scandal, to Occidental petroleum, a company in which he and his family are shareholders.
Actually, I believe that Reag
February 17, 2007 - 16:19 ET by curiousActually, I believe that Reagan's administration holds the record for the greatest number of felons in its employ, and had it not been for the first President Bush's disgraceful pardons, the list would be even longer.
On Reagan
February 17, 2007 - 18:58 ET by UnsaneIn spite of whiny ingrates like yourself, Reagan:
1) Turned around the economy with such things as the Kemp/Roth bill and the use of the Laffer Curve. (I lay the blame for the debt at the feet of all, so really, I wouldn't go there if I were you.)
2) Decided to push the Soviet Union off the cliff. Yeah, all the Leftists were SCREAMING about "provocative" measures like the deployment of the Pershing 2s and GLCMs to Europe, but then, the Leftists never dared to ask why the Soviet Union was deploying SS-20s in the first place if they were the peace-loving nation they thought they were.
3) Would not put up with any crap from any nation: note such events as Eldorado Canyon.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Al N you got your tail turned last election,you fool
February 16, 2007 - 19:17 ET by SportPoliticsAl N you got your tail turned prior last election,you fool. Time for you to ride off into liberal demise.
You know, that's what makes a voting republic so much fun. Some jerkoff like Al can whine and cry about President Bush, but when the votes came in, it was Al skulking off with his head hung low.
Al, America has spoken, and they sent your whining loser traitor Kerry back to his ski slope cliff and off the edge. I'm happy we haven't had to hear from that blowhard moron for some time now.
You have a barely there edge in the congress, and nearly the majority of Americans said you and your whining crew are still wrong concerning Iraq. In fact,your left wing leaders confirmed General P.
Now they're whining about their own decision, being the two faced losers that Kerry was, and is. Congratulations on the shameful conduct of the confusing and lying democrats.
So a record economy after one
February 16, 2007 - 19:45 ET by ralaskaSo a record economy after one of the worst attacks on the U.S., not a single attack since, booming housing and job growth, reduction in the deficit and he ranks him worst then the Peanut Farmer!
GWB has been attacked daily in the press for so long that even the hardest soles are ready for him to leave office just so we can have a break from the whining.
However I still think he is one of our best leaders, I may disagree with some of his polices but not on the war. I rank him high on the list of great leaders, history will prove this out.
Unjust judges and mediacratics
February 16, 2007 - 20:23 ET by acumen"GWB has been attacked daily in the press for so long that even the hardest soles are ready for him to leave office just so we can have a break from the whining."
I couldn't agree more. It is my belief that ("break from the whining") is exactly why the Dems now control Congress. Relentless whining = the Mediacratic (Democrat championing media) plan for regaining power. If they can't win on substance, they will defeat their opponent with incessant whining.
Reminds me of the Biblical parable about the un-just Judge and the widow - (paraphrasing) Because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she is satisfied. Not because that is what I want, but so that she won't eventually wear me out with her whining.
I could not agree more with your characterization of how history will treat W. W is doing the right thing in the war on terror. What Neuharth and others fail to explore is the reason America has not been attacked again. Their motive in not discussing this reality is fear doing so would benefit this Administration. It would be nice to beleive it is our Homeland Security but I give all the credit to the terrorists. They obviously understand that the Dems are doing their work for them. Example - todays non-binding resolution. It would surely be self-defeating for the terrorists to gin up American unity against terrorists with another 911 level attack on America. The terrorists defer to their accomplice American Mediacratic party that is only to willing to capitulate to the terrorists by offering America a slow-bleed death disguised as compassion for our troops.
Who says getting old is a drag? I welcome death, so I won't have to endlessly be bombarded with the whining from self-serving mediacrats such as Neuharth that relentlessly indoctrinate naive Americans on the uselessness of fighting evil.
BUSH IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL
February 17, 2007 - 09:39 ET by John Q CitizenBUSH IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL
George Bush is the first American President expressing Christian certitude in his Presidential decisions. God even speaks to Bush, and as the President told the press, he consulted with and obviously got an answer from “another Father,” “a higher authority” than Bush41 on going to war with Iraq. If true, presumably God would have also told him how to win this Iraq war without all the blunders, suffering and death.
The world has seen Christian certitude before and it’s not a pretty picture: papal infallibility when the Pope had armies, the Inquisition (intolerance at home) and the Crusades (intolerance abroad). When the Crusaders captured Jerusalem in 1099, they slaughtered all its inhabitants. When the Arab leader Saladin recaptured the city, he spared all the Christian inhabitants. So the Middle East is already primed for another war with Christian invaders; and accordingly and as a recent NIE confirmed, the war in Iraq has increased the number of jihadists and terrorists and made America less safe. This is not praise for the enemy, but history and insight into why our “bring it on” cowboy President is only rekindling and fueling this centuries-old fire.
Our brave, innocent young men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan are fighting for a better world, but a leader ignorant of history and cultures can easily cause the opposite. The stupidity of World War I and of Wilson, Lloyd George and Clemenceau caused terrible consequences for another 70 years after the end of that war, including Hilter and Communism. Afghanistan is the right war, certainly a just war and the whole world agreed and was on our side, and if we would have concentrated our efforts there we probably would have wiped out Bin Laden and those responsible for 9-11 by now. Iraq is a total disaster, and Iran will be even worse. Let’s face it, all George Bush knows is how to start wars!
AMERICAN DIPLOMACY… now there’s an oxymoron! The leader of Iran comes off as a whacko, however, the Iranians and the entire rest of the world view George Bush in the same way, so there is a common starting point. Real diplomacy involves talking with your adversary one-on-one without preconditions, and there’s a lot to discuss with Iran: the CIA in the 1950s, the Shah, the 1979 hostage crisis, sponsorship of terror, Israel and justice in the Middle East, and nuclear issues. But if past is prelude, Bush’s diplomacy with Iran will be perfunctory and rigged - this time, our mentally unbalanced, messianic President needs to provoke a war, AND HE WILL FIND A WAY!
This new Bush war should further help over one billion Muslims in their decision to fight America in a mutual holy war. When the President finally increases the level of hatred against the United States to where it engulfs Pakistan, then we face nuclear terror, and Biblical Armageddon becomes real and a self-fulfilling prophecy. Oh, the joy, the Rapture! Right now roiled Pakistan is just one assassin’s bullet away from going under, and still jihad recruitment is in only its infancy.
Back at home, Christian certitude is present in Bush’s politics of division and hate. Nonbelievers of Bush’s Christian values and policies are viewed with contempt, instead of as fellow citizens in a pluralistic democracy. Civility has gone out of our civilization, and this type of Christian Right hate is completely out of the closet with Ann Coulter’s book on 9-11, which has been repudiated by few if any on the right who claim to practice the Christian message of love. Hate, hate, hate -- welcome to the new Christian America (not exactly like Mother Theresa or the Amish).
“Good and evil” is a concept common in religion, morality and ethics. Obviously the whole world needs more good and less evil. But is there a practical definition that everyone can agree on and that lends itself to objective measurement. How about: GOOD is something that makes the many human lives better and no or few lives worse, while EVIL is something that makes many lives worse, and no or few lives better. Some obvious good in this world: Habitat for Humanity, St Jude’s Children Hospital, etc. Evil under this definition would include a considerable number of Hollywood movies, a lot of poison on TV and violent video games.
Measuring George Bush’s actions by this definition with objective facts, our compassionate conservative, Christian President does mostly EVIL: from the Iraq disaster to Katrina mismanagement/incompetence to the politics of division and hate to “no child left behind” (children in extreme poverty up 20% since Bush took office) to the $3 trillion dollar tax giveaway to the rich. Particulars on the last item: SUPPLY-SIDE (trickle-down) economics is a bogus theory promoted by those who benefit from it. In a mature capitalist system, supply side never rules, it’s always the demand side of the equation that governs growth and well-being. Think about the 1930s Depression, General Motors had plenty of supply, but demand evaporated.
Previous U.S. recessions have been cured with only $200 billion in tax cuts targeted to the middle class, because the consumer (the great middle class) spends that tax cut and primes the economic pump. But George Bush has raised the debt that our children and grandchildren will have to pay from almost $6 trillion to almost $9 trillion for this current recovery, which is uniquely without wage gains, and which has shrunk the middle class that makes America strong and great.
Corporations (the supply side) are now loaded with cash, but there’s no place to spend it because they don’t see any demand. So many corporations are using that cash to buy back their stock -- WOW, isn’t supply side wonderful in how it fulfills America’s needs? As the rich-poor divide increases, we’re headed toward previous shining examples of trickle-down economics: South America of the recent past and feudalism in the Middle Ages (South America and feudalism also had no wage gains). This is such good evil by our compassionate conservative, Christian President and his myriad of engorged friends.
I see a dark future for the country we all love. Even our Constitution is at risk when a President says he speaks directly to God (witness how God/Allah influences and corrupts Islamic attempts at democracy). The Constitution guarantees freedom to all, and freedom for all from tyranny. Our precious Constitution binds us together as a nation, and allegiance to it is the definition of patriotism.
*snore*Go troll your spam som
February 17, 2007 - 09:48 ET by Roger the Shrubber*snore*
Go troll your spam somewhere else. I do not appreciate tards who come here, posting the same crap they posts on other websites, (this appears at Townhall, Huffpo, DailyKrap, among other sites). ..
If you don't like what he say
February 17, 2007 - 09:55 ET by NL207If you don't like what he says, for God's sake, take it apart with fact. Don't just tell him to get lost. That increases his credibility to vulnerable minds. This blowhard, John Q Citizen, is wide open for riposte.
NL,This guy is a dump-n-run
February 17, 2007 - 10:02 ET by Dave RNL,
This guy is a dump-n-runner. I responded to the exact same post a couple of evenings ago. Trolls like him love to drop a load of bs like his and then watch everybody scrambling to respond. They appear get off on it.
My guess is that John Q. is probably a confused teen who is probably, ahh, pleasuring himself at this very moment. :-^)
I hate newspapermen.....I regard them as spies.....If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast. -Gen. William T. Sherman
I know what he is. Instead
February 17, 2007 - 10:21 ET by NL207I know what he is. Instead of a knee jerk rejection, a reasoned destruction of his garbage. He may pleasure himself over the effort of your response, but tens of thousands of people are now reading this blog monthly. Won't it pleasure him more to realize he has been intellectually humiliated before that audience? Yes? Sort of like pleasuring Bubba in jail maybe?
NL like Dave said he posted the same exact thing
February 17, 2007 - 11:29 ET by Carl KolchakNL207, this guy posted the same exact post on 2/15. Attached is the response I had for him.
Wonder if this is his own work, or if he just copied someone elses.
That post might get you an A in a left wing college course, but you started out with the Inquisition, Crusades and Pope to talk about how bad Christians are so I have to respond.
The Inquisition was extremly bad and ruthless. They didn't have the patience for others who didn't believe like them, but guess what, left wing Trotsky and Lenin did something similar during the 'Red Terror' after the Bolsheviks came into power in Russia. They were atheists, and killed, deported and tortured those they didn't like. There was an organzation they used called the Cheka to enforce their fear on those who didn't think like them. Left wing Trotksy and Lenin also attacked the Russian Orthodox Church and killed priests.
The "Red Terror" would be the left wing atheist version of the Inquisition.
The Crusades are much bigger than the Pope telling the Christians to go kill people. The Seljuk Turks(Muslims) conquered Jerusalem from the Arabs(Muslims) and then attacked the Byzantine Empire(Christians), then the Byzantines went to the Pope for assistance. Why isn't anything ever said bad about the Muslims attacking the Byzantines. Saladin also forced those he conquered into slavery. Now were the Crusaders a bunch of swell guys when they conquered a city? No, not exactly, in fact many on the way to the Holy Lands thought it was open season on the Jews, but don't try to tell me the Muslims were a bunch of swell guys. Did you know the Muslims invaved Christendom, and we don't ever hear anything bad about that. They were in present day Spain with the Moors. The Almoravids invaded Spain many times with large armies. See El Cid the Champion of Spain for a person who fought against the invading Almmoravids who were Muslims from North Africa. The Muslims also attacked Sicily, Portugal, and other parts of Christendom. You can also find examples of Muslims beheading Christians from that time too.
In the Fourth Crusade, the Crusaders ended up taking Constantinople from the Byzantines, who were Christians. The Crusades are probably much more about conquering territory, than they are about the Pope ordering people to kill like left wing college professors would have you believe.
"I've always been crazy, but it's kept me from going insane" Waylon Jennings
Bigger fish to fry, NL. Bigge
February 17, 2007 - 18:02 ET by Roger the ShrubberBigger fish to fry, NL. Bigger fish to fry.
Hey, that's pretty interest
February 17, 2007 - 09:51 ET by Uncle JohnHey, that's pretty interesting. Thanks for your unsolicited and unsubstantiated opinion/"feelings". Good luck with that.
"It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
Welcome to HELL, troll! Fo
February 17, 2007 - 09:53 ET by Dave RWelcome to HELL, troll!
For someone alledgedy educated, you seem to have a strange habbit of repeating yourself, as the above Marxist drivel is the same BS you posted here a couple of days ago.
My advice is to put a sock in it, you flaming communist spineless bastard, as my patience with America hating scum such as you has essentially expired.
Idiots like yourself will at some point realize what this country is facing in the Islamic barbarian horde. For most of your kind, it will be when the mushroom cloud is expanding over a major US city. But, given your profound ignorance, you most likely won't get it until you have been leaned over the chopping block and the sword is being raised above your infidel neck.
I hate newspapermen.....I regard them as spies.....If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast. -Gen. William T. Sherman
Same advice to you as to Shru
February 17, 2007 - 10:00 ET by NL207Same advice to you as to Shrubber: take this clown apart piece by piece. Advice on attack: take one of his asinine paragraphs on at a time and focus on impeaching that one. He won't respond to you so you get one shot at defeating any one of his arguments. I've not seen this troll debate anyone.
Please, please give us the Cl
February 17, 2007 - 09:56 ET by rimskyPlease, please give us the Cliff Notes version next time. The abbreviated Cliff Notes version!
George Bush is the first Am
February 17, 2007 - 09:57 ET by Jack BauerGeorge Bush is the first American President expressing Christian certitude in his Presidential decisions.
Bollocks.
President Harry S. Truman
Inaugural address, Thursday, January 20, 1949
The American people stand firm in the faith which has inspired this Nation from the beginning. We believe that all men are created equal because they are created in the image of God. From this faith we will not be moved.
President Clinton
Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961
With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds; let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth, God's work must truly be our own.
President Jimmy Carter
Inaugural Address, Thursday, January 20, 1977
Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless admonition from the ancient prophet Micah: "He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God." (Micah 6:8)
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
First Inaugural Address, Saturday, March 4, 1933
In this dedication of a Nation we humbly ask the blessing of God. May He protect each and every one of us. May He guide me in the days to come.
Fourth Inaugural Address, Saturday, January 20, 1945
As I stand here today, having taken the solemn oath of office in the presence of my fellow countrymen—in the presence of our God—I know that it is America's purpose that we shall not fail.
The Almighty God has blessed our land in many ways. He has given our people stout hearts and strong arms with which to strike mighty blows for freedom and truth. He has given to our country a faith which has become the hope of all peoples in an anguished world.
President Lyndon Baines Johnson
Inaugural Address, Wednesday, January 20, 1965
Under this covenant of justice, liberty, and union we have become a nation—prosperous, great, and mighty. And we have kept our freedom. But we have no promise from God that our greatness will endure. We have been allowed by Him to seek greatness with the sweat of our hands and the strength of our spirit.
It's hard to know where to st
February 17, 2007 - 10:12 ET by ThisnThatIt's hard to know where to start -- this whole bizzare rambling is full of lies, Dem talking points, and MSM mumbo-jumbo.
But there is one item worth mentioning: The leader of Iran comes off as a hacko, however, the Iranians and the entire rest of the world view George Bush in the same way, so there is a common starting point.
Like so many of your other comments, when you try to gain an edge using moral equivalency, you have automatically lost any and all credibility you might have had before. There is no common starting point. Period.
where are you pasting from?
February 17, 2007 - 19:14 ET by tumbler_2007It's reasonable to think you've cribbed all this like a magpie stealing bits of junk. Nobody writes an anthology like this from scratch.
In any case; it's all a heap of insanity. Bush is one of our staunchest, most endearing presidents. His luck is nothing exceptionable, except with regards to his maximized economy. He hasn't yet been beaten by our enemies. We can afford to string along with him till somebody better comes along. And he won't come from Nancy Pelosi's party.
As usual, Tumbler.You're a ha
February 17, 2007 - 19:17 ET by BlondeAs usual, Tumbler.
You're a half a day late and a dollar short.
This troll got banned.
USA Today: Is this that paper
February 17, 2007 - 09:45 ET by AlgerHissUSA Today: Is this that paper that they give away all over the place?
Does anyone remember GRIT? USA Today is the modern version of GRIT.
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
Grit...What a memory. Thanks Alger, now I do feel old.
February 17, 2007 - 11:28 ET by acaiguanaGrit...What a memory. Thanks Alger, now I do feel old.
Yes, I do remember Grit. Seems like it was sold by every urchin and street person in the world. I dreamed once I was in Borneo slashing my way through the jungle with machetes, etc., and some kid popped up and tried to sell me a Grit.
Ah, the good old days.
Whatever happened to it? I have no clue (rememberance) of what it actually published as far as content.
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
It appears GRIT is online in
February 19, 2007 - 13:05 ET by AlgerHissIt appears GRIT is online in magazine form.
By the way, I was one of those urchins that hawked GRIT.
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
Thanks for the old update there Alger.
February 19, 2007 - 13:14 ET by acaiguanaThanks for the old update there Alger.
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
McPaper
February 17, 2007 - 11:21 ET by Dave RWhile I will freely admit to having some serious issues with Mr. Bush, he is nowhere near the top of my list when it comes to worst presidents ever. At least we now know why USA Today is written to an 8th-grade level, as that appears to be the extent of the education of its founder.
I hate newspapermen.....I regard them as spies.....If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast. -Gen. William T. Sherman
All one needs to know about A
February 17, 2007 - 11:34 ET by Del DolemonteAll one needs to know about Al Neuharth is that he lives in a treehouse in Florida. Literally.
Al: you're wrong. Liberalis
February 17, 2007 - 13:58 ET by Andrew H.Al: you're wrong.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.