PC-NN: Gay NBA Player Asked If NBA's 'Mature' Enough Yet, Player Says Sports Is Gay

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The coming out of gay former NBA player John Amaechi was boosted on Monday by an interview on CNN's afternoon show Newsroom, where anchor Don Lemon framed the interview as a question of social progress and tolerance: "do you think that the NBA now is ready for a player who may be out, while they're playing? Do you think the league is mature enough to handle that?"

Amaechi responded that the NBA may soon be "clean" on this issue, regardless of how the "clean" word's been politically dangerous in the last few weeks: "I think that [NBA Commissioner] David Stern is mature enough to handle that. I think he wants an organization that is pristine, and part of that, if you want, cleanliness will be to have a league that accepts all types, as long as they do have the ability."

The interview allowed Amaechi to spread the common liberal assumption that there are two kinds of individuals: the progressives and the cavemen. Disagree with liberals, and you're incapable of reasoning. Despite the example of someone like Tim Hardaway making ill-considered remarks declaring their own hate, there seems no way for a conservative point of view to be well-considered:

LEMON: "What do you have to say about some of the players? Players like LeBron James who say it's a trust issue. What do you make of what -- how the players are reacting to this?"

AMAECHI: "I think many of the players have shown you that the NBA is not a league of Neanderthals. It's a league where there are some very well-considered, well-thought-out individuals. And they've made comments that have reflected that."

Lemon also helpfully read back to Amaechi a passage in his book that slams conservatives on so-called gay marriage, but the Q&A that followed stressed how homoeroticism is deeply embedded in sports:

LEMON: "Yeah, you said -- you quoted, saying that 'Political conservatives tend to define gay people as immoral, perverted and promiscuous, yet they deny them the one institution, that to them, represents the opposite. It's a handy catch-22 with which you bind a whole group of people to second-class citizenship.' (Lemon actually bungled the quote as he read it, but CNN also put it on screen for the viewer to absorb.)

"But I want to talk to you also, that -- you have become a political activist when it comes to an issue like that. But you're also talking about the locker room, and that's where everyone wants to know about this whole thing. It seems that's where the controversy is, that you're going to be in the locker room with other men, who may think that you want them as a gay man, which is sort of presumptuous. You say that to think that every -- that a gay man would want every man."

"But here's what you say -- in the book. You said, 'The pro locker room was the flamboyant place I've ever been this side of a swanky club full of martini-drinking gay men... They guys flaunted their perfect bodies. They bragged about their sexual exploits. They checked out each other.' You said they checked out each others' body parts and they primped in the mirror, applying cologne and hair gel by the bucketful. Now, what did you mean by that?"

AMAECHI: "Well, I think it's pretty self-explanatory. There is -- I don't think anybody can claim that within sports -- male sports there isn't an undercurrent of -- there's certainly -- it's not homosexual, but there is a vibe there is homoerotic, and you have to accept that.

"And I just want to go back to the point about being checked out in the locker room by gay men. There isn't anybody in the NBA probably who hasn't played with a gay man. They just don't know about it. But the fact is it's so narcissistic, and it's so arrogant to think that you would be checked out. When I entered a locker room, for me, it was me and my teammates going into battle. We were going to try and kick some tail on the other team and that was it. It was a work environment. "

LEMON: "Yes, and just by you saying that there is some homoeroticism to it might make people uncomfortable, and they might understand what some of the other players are saying."

AMAECHI: "Yes, but it is homoerotic. But it's not homoerotic because there are gay people in the locker room. It's homoerotic because it is homoerotic. Sport has been homoerotic since the Greeks starting doing it."

Suffused throughout the interview was Amaechi's confidence in his role in forcing people to accept homosexuality, that "there is something I can add to the debate. I can create discourse. I can allow people to talk about issues that perhaps they otherwise wouldn't be forced to talk about." But CNN and the other media aren't having a debate. They're having a sensitivity training seminar.

Update 10:48 by Matthew Sheffield. Too much off-topic posting here. NB is supposed to be about media bias, not the morality of a particular political issue, in this case, homosexuality. Locking.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center


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I agree that homosexual sex b

I agree that homosexual sex between men has added risks and the media has done a poor job highlighting those risks in order for consenting adults to make intelligent and informed decisions.

But there is a difference between negligence and "brainwashing."  And to assert that the blind are leading the blind- implying that high profile individuals who "come out" are completely ignorant to the risks of unprotected homosexual sex, is assinine. 

That being said, I would like to see said people promote safe sex and sex education as heartedly as they promote tolerance.

So if I disagree with your op

So if I disagree with your opinion, I'm a bigot?

"amaechi has done a cour

"amaechi has done a courageous thing. anyone who says otherwise is a bigot."

Opinion followed by absolute statement....what a great debate technique.

Nope, it's a blog, but the

Nope, it's a blog, but the ability to stand toe to toe & slug it out intellectually -- which requires a few actual debate techniques, instead of what you're trying above -- tends to be more-respected around here than, well, what you're trying above, which is unlikely to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you of anything...
JMR

Well, iconoclast151 (whatever that means?)

Well, iconoclast151 (whatever that means?)

I'd say offhand either you are willing to debate your ideas; or you just want to lay down the law.

Now, I disagree with your statement that 'everyone' has a 'little' homosexuality in them.

So, does that make you right and me wrong?  Or does that make me right and you wrong?  Or is homosexuality some sort of genetic thingy that dominates over all the struggling heterosexuality living inside a homosexual?

I'm confused.

If you want, we can debate debating all day long.  I'm of the mind from reading your posts that you don't fully understand the argument of ideas.  This is a Liberal failing.  This failing is most evidenced by Liberal Leftoids attacking speakers they disagree with by shouting them down, banning them from public forums (particularly Universities), and throwing pies and other things at them.

As a consequence of this tyranical fatal Liberal misunderstanding that the people have the ability to think for themselves; they expect people to just nod their heads, agree with whatever inanity the Liberal spouts particularly if the inanity is designed to shame or cower the listener into silence of mind as well as speech, and to generally accept tyranny over their minds.

I'm sorta against that infirmity that afflicts Liberals and demogagues.

Aren't you?

ACA

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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."

Your discussion thread is o

Your discussion thread is off-topic here. This post is not about the morality of homosexuality.

Too late!"Mature"

Too late!

"Mature" was the wrong phrase. I don't think the NBA is ready for an openly gay player, because many of their athletes can't stand gay people, and would not be able to work with a gay person.

Icon - gay people might con

Icon - gay people might consider you a bigot because your argument assumed there was a choice in being Gay. Good thing you are not a Republican, because now you can be forgiven for your comment

AMAECHI: "I think many

AMAECHI: "I think many of the players have shown you that the NBA is not a league of Neanderthals.

What?? He's saying there were no gay Neanderthals? I'm shocked.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

Like I give a frack what yo

Like I give a frack what you think

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

Careful Jack....if you don't

Careful Jack....if you don't care what he thinks isn't funny, you may be a bigot, or be called a bigot or something....

icon151

I think you are the one who ought to be careful...you are on the side of what God says is an "abomination".  Might want to think about that.  As for me, I will choose God's "opinion" over yours. 

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. Leviticus 18:22

face piles of trials with smiles

hose -- I'm a reverse-bigot

hose -- I'm a reverse-bigot.

But it is kinda funny for a guy whose posts make no sense to be complaining about others.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

You're wrong again. It really

You're wrong again. It really funny and it makes perfect sense (psst...that's why it's funny).

And I agree with with Amaechi, the NBA is not a bunch of Neanderthals...

...they're a bunch of thugs.

hey dvd... thanks.Yeah, I t

hey dvd... thanks.

Yeah, I thought it was an amusing take too!

Wasn't only a few weeks ago homosexual actists groups were getting bent out of shape because a zoo was changing the behavior of some alleged "gay" penguins, or something?

I ain't making this up!

UPDATE**

"Gay" Penguins turned Straight

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

Jack - sounds like the start

Jack - sounds like the start to a new series of Geigo commercials, lol!

Let's use the English languag

Let's use the English language correctly folks.  There's nothing 'gay' about homosexuality.  The word homosexual is the correct usage.

You stick with that word, I

You stick with that word, I'll stick with the word "liberal," and we'll see who is more-defeated by NewSpeak in a decade. (Seriously, this should be a pretty-close one!)
JMR

The problem is that when one

The problem is that when one speaks it's ALLWAYS as a representative of XXX and not an individual giving an HONEST oppinion.

Some of the rules handed down from Pop are:

  1. I don't care what, where or who you are, either you meet the standard or you don't.
  2. You don't have to like others beliefs/actions, but you must respect them as you expect to be respected
  3. You are ALLWAYS representing the unit/team/company...so act accordingly

I like the way your Pop think

I like the way your Pop thinks!

I guess I'm confused about th

I guess I'm confused about the freedoms afforded me by the Constitution. It was my understanding that freedom of speech and freedom of religion allow me to believe and say that homosexuality is wrong and a sin. Am I not also allowed to be homophobic if I so choose?

It would seem that liberals only allow freedom of belief and expression when it coincides with their view of how the world should be.

I think there are many on the

I think there are many on the far left who would just as soon shut you up than allow you to embrace homophobia.  They are wrong for that.  Equally wrong is the assertation that there is a concerted effort to brainwash the public into embracing the homosexual lifestyle.  Individual belief is one thing- I think the issue is institutions that embrace (or imply) a culture of homophobia, allowing a segment of the population to feel shamed and demonized.

While I agree with some of wh

While I agree with some of what you have written, I would respectfully disagree with the idea that there is no concerted effort. Based on what I've read and heard from Tammy Bruce ("The Death of Right and Wrong"), I am led to think otherwise.

Homophobia as defined in seve

Homophobia as defined in several web dictionaries is the "irrational fear of homosexuals."  I'm tired of having that term used incorrectly.  Use of that word is a pejorative, and we should not allow them to pigeonhole us that way.

Not only do I not fear homosexuals, but also my feelings toward homosexuality are not irrational.

Most dictionaries list that a

Most dictionaries list that as only one part of the definition.... but really, that is just semantics, I think most people equate homophobia with disdain toward homosexuals.

toolz, and that is the problem.

toolz, and that is the problem.

Once again the Leftoids have taken a perfectly innocent word 'phobia' and appended it to Homo (which doesn't imply sexuality at all) and murdered the English language in their never ending attempt to couch radical social agendas with soft language.

Hey?  That was pretty good, huh?

ACA

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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."

Aca,I liked it.

Aca,

I liked it.

fossten, I agree.

fossten, I agree.

Nobody cares to be called 'irrational'.  I know.  I've been called irrational by the best of them.

ACA

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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."

Homosexuality...

Here is a great short-film on the dangers of Homosexuals. : o

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!

Thank you for posting this, i

Thank you for posting this, it does a lot to illustrate the gross misunderstandings of homosexuality that existed- and perhaps still exist?- within the heterosexual community.

Homo

I only say one thing. The Bible speaks strongly against homosexual activity in (I can't recall at the moment) but I think in over 20 places. That is the ORIGINAL book about "The Death of Right and Wrong". It says it, that settles it (for me).

Most sins of the flesh include a factor of that just thinking about it is on a par with doing it. It occurs to me that homosexual activity is the exception to that because homosexual activity rarely crosses the mind of normal people.

Yes, I made the comparison of normal and abnormal people and every living, breathing human being is a result of NORMAL, human, sexual activity. Of course a qualified exception would be artificial insemination (which still requires normal males and females.

I am unaware of anyone being conceived and born out of anal intercourse between two men, although I have known, seen or heard people that I might suspect (some of them post here on occasion). Nor do I know what they would look like but we can all use our imaginations, now can't we.

Gross misunderstandings?

Misunderstandings of Gross Homosexuality perhaps? I find it interesting that the phrase "mature enough" was used. The liberal left has no problem using name calling to intimidate and coerce-but they seem to think they do not do it whilst accusing others of similar behaviour. Just like name calling on a playground-if you are not "mature" enough to accept deviant behaviour, then you are the one with the problem. Oh, how enlightened that attitude is...Give me a break

The Clinton News Network (CNN

The Clinton News Network (CNN) wonders if the NBA is "mature" enough to handle more players "coming out." Well you liberal SICKophants need not have to wonder. The NBA's commissioner David Stern banned Tim Hardaway from speaking at the All Star weekend in Las Vegas saying, "It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours." So there it is. The NBA makes it clear they agree with the Clinton News Network that they are pro-homosexual all the way (or I guess  they would say they are "tolerant". Yeah right! So tolerant that they ban Hardaway from speaking at an event where he wouldn't even be commenting on his views on homosexuality anyway!). Liberals once again show they are BY FAR the most intolerant people on the planet.

This is indeed a sensitivity training seminar by CNN. And how disgusting for Amaechi to call anyone who opposes homosexuality a "Neanderthal". I guess he would consider anyone who believes the Bible to be a Neanderthal too, since there are verses (like one quoted by another user) that say homosexuality is an ABOMINATION.

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. The Ten Commandments say, "Honor your father and mother" not honor your father and father. But regardless of one's acceptance of the Bible and personal opinions on homosexual behavior, the frightening and appalling thing is for the MSM and the NBA to take sides on the issue, rather than report and be objective.

HumanEvents,Take a look at ht

HumanEvents,

Take a look at http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm

A lot of varied opinions on the subject of the bible and homsexuality.  

God created Adam and Eve, n

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Gosh, never heard that one before. So who created Steve? Zeus? Odin? Galactus?

One thing that's being overlo

One thing that's being overlooked here.  On its website ESPN began heavily promoting John Amaechi's book prior to it hitting the shelves.  The network heavily inserted itself into this story.  It then did the same thing when former NBA star Tim Hardaway issued his statements expressing distain for homosexuality.   The network has conducted polls among NBA players and fans regarding the issue.  Like Greta with Natalie Holloway in Aruba ESPN is hyping this story and tainting it with an agenda.  I've said it before on this blog, so the Amaechi story is merely one more reason to say that sports "journalists" have as big a liberal bias (and as big an interest in self-promotion) as their colleagues in the White House press corps.