I have been watching the "reportage" on the regrettable incident of a teenaged killer's rampage in a Utah shopping mall with mounting interest. In nearly every story of this crime the fact that this youngster is from a Muslim background is either muted or ignored altogether.
The AP, for instance, avoids identifying the boy as a Muslim in all their stories that I saw. In one, they merely identify the region in Bosnia in which he lived as the "northeastern enclave where up to 8,000 Muslim men and boys were slaughtered in 1995" but do not even speculate as to the boy or his family being Muslims. It is all rather dutifully avoided. In another story, the AP doesn't even use the word Muslim at all.
Even in the local press, like the Utah Desert News, the issue of his background is ignored or made entirely incidental. The Desert News, in fact, makes just one mention that the "family are Muslims from Bosnia who had lived in the vicinity of Sarajevo" in a rather lengthy and otherwise complete story of the incident.
Worse, the New York Times is making the wild assumption that it is "Bosnian immigrants", not the rest of America, that should be afraid for their lives in theirs titled "Anti-Bosnian Backlash Feared in Utah".
In the Times' story the Muslin issue is given scant notice and the focus is put on how we ignorant Americans are sure to start beating up "Bosnians" right and left. The word Muslim seems to have been replaced rather ridiculously with "Bosnian", as if Americans will seek out "Bosnians" upon which to take out their anger instead of Muslims. The fact is, though, "Bosnians" do not loom as the enemy in the minds of Americans, but Muslims do. How many Americans would instantly become wary if someone were to tell them they are "Bosnian"?
In the Times' story the word Muslim is used exactly once:
The number of Bosnian refugees in the Salt Lake City area has been estimated to be 3,000 to 7,000, most of them Muslims fleeing violence by Serbs in the early 1990s.
So, the Times seems to feel regular Americans are the threat not rampaging Muslims. And, even if this boy was not a practicing Muslim, something we do not know as a factor because of the current deficient state of reporting, the fact that he is from a Muslim family is quite germane to the story.
I would find it perfectly reasonable to include in these stories language that could benignly bring up the issue without fanning the flames of anti-Muslim sentiment. It would not be beyond reasonability to say something such as "It is not known if the boy's Muslim background is a factor in his rampage", or some such rhetoric.
But to wholly ignore the issue seems rather un-journalistic, wouldn't you say? It would also seem to be out of character for the MSM in the normal scheme of things.
The 18 year-old killer, Sulejmen Talovic, was driven from his home with his Mother at four, he lived in the aforementioned refugee camp until he was about 9 and then he moved to the USA with his family in 1998. He was thought to be a "loner" with no friends, but wasn't thought of as a trouble maker, being generally a quiet youngster.
That all ended this week with his murderous trip to the mall.
Of course, it isn't possible with what is known to say that his Muslim background directly led to this rampage, or that it was a result of religious extremism. It is wholly possible that this kid was so mentally traumatized by his young life in a war zone that he snapped.
But, here are some interesting facts. The USA is the good guy in the story of Bosnia's Muslims. In fact, Bosnian Muslims today are one of the few Muslim communities who have thus far violently opposed the kind of religious hatred funded by the Saudis with their exportation of Wahhabism and one of the few that are vehemently pro-American because of the advocacy the US offered them in the efforts to stop Slabodon Milosevic's campaigns of ethnic cleansing.
So, it seems somewhat unlikely that he learned any hatred of the USA from his familial traditions.
But the boy is still a Muslim and he wouldn't be the only one to stray from his family's traditions and ideals to take on a radical ideology.
So we are left with at least two possibilities as to the boy's motives.
- He adopted a radical Muslim hatred of the west
- He was so traumatized by his youth he just snapped and there is no religious influence
Neither possibility is discussed in any story about this incident, however.
The question is, why is his Muslim background being completely ignored?
Is it just a question of not knowing the facts and the MSM doesn't want to speculate? This would be a hard thing to believe since speculation is one of their favorite games. Remember how Timothy McVeigh was immediately called a Christian, a White Separatist, or that he was part of a militia, etc.? There was little waiting for facts to emerge with McVeigh. Another incident that showed the MSM's willingness to run with any point no matter if it is proven or not was the Richard Jewel bombing story. That poor guy was so hounded by the MSM that it ruined his life as he was convicted in the press before anything was ascertained.
So, are we to believe that the MSM suddenly got a conscience and decided to go cautious on this boy's Muslim background?
It's doubtful!
But as to the MSM's real motive on this one... well, I'll leave that to each of you.



















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More-honest coverage comes
February 15, 2007 - 10:14 ET by sarcasmoMore-honest coverage comes from where the problem originated. A few years ago, the idea that "serbianna.com" would outdo the AP in journalism would be laughable. Now it's par for the course....
JMR
The mainstream media simply c
February 15, 2007 - 10:16 ET by florida_chadThe mainstream media simply cannot accept the fact that a Muslim walked into a shopping mall in Utah and started gunning down people.
The MSM doesn't want us to be upset or to get angry. Then we might actually support the war. Same reason they don't show footage from 911 anymore. That should be replayed every 9/11.
so right
February 15, 2007 - 10:34 ET by iveseenitallYou're so right, Florida_chad. I saw a piece about 911 recently on the Discovery station. No American can watch this and not cry and get really angry. The media doesn't want it because it reminds people that the cause is right and necessary. God help us if the liberals get their way. They are dooming our children's future.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
It makes me think they think
February 15, 2007 - 10:49 ET by florida_chadIt makes me think they think they need to protect us from us. Screw that. Show the true footage, tell the real story of a muslim shooting up a mall and let us americans decide what to do. I really hate the MSM and what they try to do to our country. If a muslim went to the NYtimes or ABC CBS NBS and started killing reporters, they would report that.
I don't even think Fox News r
February 15, 2007 - 13:53 ET by blarsenI don't even think Fox News reported the Islam connection until today.
LIBERALS - 'The Enemies From Within'
February 15, 2007 - 10:40 ET by TheTruthYou are absolutely right! Can’t have people supporting the war on terror or the Bush administration. Also don’t forget that most of the self proclaimed ‘intellectual elites’ (LIBERALS) that dominate the MSM believe that guns are evil and shoot people; it’s never the person pulling the trigger it is always the inanimate object or tool that shot the person. Kind of how they report accidents involving an SUVs its usually not until the last part of the report, if at all, that you learn there was actually a driver behind the wheel.
MSM: Arrogant intellectually dishonest LIBERALS teaching those stupid peasants how to vote by way of selective reporting, misinformation, propaganda, and out right lies.
Does The MSM Have Something To Hide?
February 15, 2007 - 10:27 ET by emjem24It's quite intriquing when the MSM deliberately hides the background of this teenage murderer. Why? They seek to "out" who they consider nutty, religious right Christians all the time. Here's a reason. The MSM panders to Muslims all the time because they're scared of being boycotted by Muslim groups. Something was obviously wrong with this kid just like the kids at Columbine. Watch and listen as "intelligent," "unbiased," journalists call for new gun control measures. Here's a thought: let's call for more screening procedures so that we don't let in more of these freaks. Anybody can use asylum...hell, there are gay Mexicans who feel persecuted in their own country so they want safe haven to join their own kind in this country (I wish I were making this up).
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
BIG MEDIA really does no fa
February 15, 2007 - 10:30 ET by Jack BauerBIG MEDIA really does no favors to anyone when it decides for reasons of "political correctness" to ignore an important aspect of a story.
All they have done is create a climate where people will fill in the blanks themselves. After all, nutjobs shooting up malls, schools, offices is hardly unknown.
However when someone called "Sulijman" does it, and no one in the media has the guts or inclination to point out the obvious, others can and do.
That would be: just like Columbine, there are influences at work here. Mmmm, was he a "Goth" No. Was he a "Paranoid Schitzophrenic". Possibly. Was he a "Muslim". Err, yeah. Was he a "Jihadist". Possibly.
If you were a journalist would you be interested in theose questions? No. Apparently.
By the way, most of us have a vague recall on the name Suleyman. Here's why..
The most famous being "Suleyman the Magnificent"
Described as "the greatest sultan of the Ottomans and one of the 16th century's most formidable conquerors."
He succeeded his father, Selim I, as sultan in 1520 and soon began expanding the empire, conquering Belgrade (1521) and Rhodes (1522) before turning his attention to Persia (Iran) in the 1530s.
Suleyman also captured Baghdad (1534) and Tabriz (1535) and battled Emperor Charles V over Hungary and Austria in the 1540s.
The Christians finally defeating the Muslim tide at the gates of Vienna before the whole of Europe could be converted by the sword.
He also sent naval forces to North Africa and conquered Tripoli in 1551. (Hence the Marine Corps anthem mentioning the shores of Tripoli)
And guess what. They're comin' again boys. This time they really mean it. Even in Salt lake City.
Mentioning "he's a Mus
February 15, 2007 - 10:35 ET by sarcasmoMentioning "he's a Muslim" in these shootings is apparently like mentioning "he's on various totally-legal psychodrugs whose massive pharmacompanies all buy lots of ads on our station" used to be in similar nutcase-shootings...Sigh. Occasionally, I wonder if we're seeing the far-reaching effects of Saudi mega-loot?
JMR
One of the murdering bastar
February 15, 2007 - 10:44 ET by Jack BauerOne of the murdering bastard's victims was a fifteen year old girl.
Man, I'm choking up thinking of that.
Give it a couple of days, and the bastard will also be a "victim."
At least a guy with a conceal
February 15, 2007 - 10:53 ET by florida_chadAt least a guy with a concealed gun killed the bastard. So he can't go to death row for 20 years on our dime. A 15 year old girl? That sucks as do all the deaths. We need to go to war against ISLAM. If moderate islam will not do anything, they will be caught in the crossfire.
Dirt Bag
February 15, 2007 - 11:09 ET by BBallleaperAt least this muslim dirt bag found his way onto a morgue slab! Hope he enjoys those 77 burka-clad uglies!
Jack,That BS has already st
February 15, 2007 - 11:40 ET by Dave RJack,
That BS has already started.
I hate newspapermen.....I regard them as spies.....If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast. -Gen. William T. Sherman
The press will not report thi
February 15, 2007 - 10:37 ET by BDThe press will not report this as they fear the possibility of causing retribution to a protected class - our islamic enemies within the US.
THis is driectly against the codes of conduct supposedly cherished by the press, those being the act of reporting the truth regardless of consequenses. But as I have understood since J-School - the truth is not as important as the ideaology of liberalism.
C'mon, people! The reason t
February 15, 2007 - 10:41 ET by MikeBC'mon, people! The reason that the perp is not identified as a Muslim is obvious: Islam is the "religion of peace", this act was not an act of peace, therefore the perp could not have been Muslim, so AP could not possibly identify him as a Muslim. He was as the French would put it, "le youth frustrateed, mais non Muslim." Expect moral outrage and demonstrations from the Bosnian M***** community against these obviously racist police who, for no apparent reason, cold-bloodedly killed this poor misguided youth.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Warner, the same is true for race and political affiliation.
February 15, 2007 - 10:45 ET by acaiguanaWarner, the same is true for race and political affiliation. The MSM avoids labels where it might 'go against the mo' with respect to the 'struggle' against prejudice.
Unless of course the struggle would de-emphasize the far Left Wing prejudices of Conservatives as racists; Nazi's (skinheads, militia, etc); neo-conservatives going to war (warmongering); or civil rights abuses (a purely Republican trait that was evidenced during the Civil War which was fought to preserve the Union not to free the slaves).
Of course, we expect this prejudice from the Liberal Left as they continue to chip away at our Civil Rights with respect to our behaviors in our petty pleasures in life, such as the choice to smoke, the choice to paint our house a color we choose, a choice to build a wall around our property without zoning permits, or pretty much a whole bunch of other choices we might make. I wouldn't want to bring up seat belts here, but what the hey?
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
It's been pretty well establi
February 15, 2007 - 11:01 ET by HypocriteHaterIt's been pretty well established that the MSM are a bunch of chickensh*ts when it comes to criticizing Muslims. Why else didn't they show the Danish cartoons of Muhammad that caused all the Muslim rioting? Yet journalists love to portray themselves as always putting their lives on the line all in the name of freedom of the press.
Muslim mass killer: mall is yards from Islamic Center/Mosque
February 15, 2007 - 12:03 ET by Jack BauerHere's an interesting factoid about the media, the FBI and the Police immediately dismissing any islamo-terror connections between Suleyman the Insignificant and mass murder.
I just Google Earthed Salt Lake City, and guess what..
TROLLEY SQ. MALL -- ISLAMIC CENTER = 430 YDS
TROLLEY SQ. MALL -- UNIVERSITY OF UTAH MIDDLE EAST CENTER = 350 YDS
Sure, clearly nothing suspicious there.
A few years ago the EL AL air
February 15, 2007 - 12:17 ET by RangerTomA few years ago the EL AL airline desk in LA airport was shot up by who? Anybody remember that? Of course it wasn't a terrorist event and neither was this shooting in the mall. That's what the MSM would like to portray. There could be a news conference by the local officials claiming this to be a terrorist event but will that part make the news at six? What a great way for the terrorists to carry on like this, one guy here and there killing a few innocent people every so often and get that ticket to paradise. I wonder if CAIR has anything to say or if they even care at all.
Screw diversity, celebrate competency
I'm at Hill AFB just north of
February 15, 2007 - 12:45 ET by ammo johnI'm at Hill AFB just north of SLC. I believe that the SLC police chief has been commenting that there is no indication that this was a terrorist act. The local news has been non-stop about the killings, which I don't blame them. But, all I've been seeing is a portrayal of a troubled youth with no friends, coming from a war-torn country. It's sick.
ammo john
February 15, 2007 - 12:53 ET by misterbillammo john--You are most probably correct. I feel sadness over that fact.
My objection is that, whether for good or not, the media should present us with the facts or get out of the business.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
V- MSM hiding terrorist attacks will backfire
February 15, 2007 - 12:53 ET by pearlV- MSM hiding terrorist attacks will backfire
The shameful MSM tactic of hiding domestic terrorist attacks from the public will backfire on them.
The terrorists will soon realize the only way to have Americans hear about their trip to the 72 virgins is to attack member(s) of the MSM.
V for Victory
pearl...I also think it is sh
February 15, 2007 - 13:31 ET by ww thumperpearl...I also think it is shameful for the "drive by media" to hide terrorist attacks from the public. they eather will not report the "truth" of what happened or they will misrepresent it. some news reports called the shooter SOLOMAN ( a JEWISH name!) instead if his real name Sulijman his real name! ww v I AM PRO AMERICAN !=
PRO LIFE!= & PRO VICTORY ! v ww
Correct me if I'm wrong, but
February 15, 2007 - 14:25 ET by balboaCorrect me if I'm wrong, but we don't know if it's a domestic terrorist attack, do we?
It happened in the USA & a le
February 15, 2007 - 14:29 ET by sarcasmoIt happened in the USA & a legal immigrant is the perp, and it sure looks like terrorism to me. What's not domestic about it??
JMR
B - you are correct at this p
February 15, 2007 - 14:34 ET by florida_chadIt is the same deal as the guy that shot up EL Air in LA a couple of years ago. He was a muslim trying to kill as many as possible. But it was really hard to find out he was a muslim b/c the MSM didn't report it.
Should the press omit that he
February 15, 2007 - 14:54 ET by balboaShould the press omit that he's a muslim? Probably, until it can be verified that it's an essential part of the story.
Then they should also omit th
February 15, 2007 - 15:03 ET by BDThen they should also omit the fact that:
1.) He was male...
2.) A teenager...
3.) He was caucasion...
4.) That he actually TARGETED anyone....
In other words, we should not REPORT it, right?
Yeah that's exactly what I me
February 15, 2007 - 17:17 ET by balboaI disagree. Any muslim that w
February 15, 2007 - 15:07 ET by florida_chadWhat if he used a backpack bomb? Would you still say don't mention his religion?
Actually, he can't be a muslim because of all that I hear in the MSM about islam being a religion of peace.
If he was a Christain
February 15, 2007 - 18:37 ET by SportPoliticsIf he was a Christain of some sect, the msm would be all over it, and they'ed have already flown to the church of the hidden satan thousands of miles to get an interview and the comments of parishoners and the preacher.
But,it's a muzzie - so mummmm UP ! If you don't libbie msm pressers, you might get a big knife stabbed into your chest with a note attached to it. Other than that, you WILL get hundreds of death threat phone calls and emails, in languages you cannot understand. It would be very scarey when you checked the caller ID number and it originated in the USA.... suddenly all your whining about wiretapping would seem a bit precipitous...
Congratulations though, censorship and personal safety above all.
B - you are correct at this p
February 15, 2007 - 14:36 ET by florida_chadRelevance?
February 15, 2007 - 14:20 ET by Right_of_LeftI think you're blowing the apparent avoidance of the young man's religion way out of proportion.
Why does the news not seem to mention it? Probably because, while shooting up the mall, he didn't start yelling verses of the Koran, suicide bomb anything, or do anything else that would make you think he was islamic extremist. He seems alot more like any of the other nutcases out their who "just can't take it anymore" and want to take a few people down with them.
Sure the reporting is subpar, any news-item with such grand headlines as "MALL SHOOTING RAMPAGE" will garner such fluff. But until there's a link between the shooting and islamic extremism, I don't think it matters that he attended Mosque.
If he had been home schooled,
February 15, 2007 - 15:03 ET by BuffNBoneIf he had been home schooled, I'm pretty confident we'd have heard about it repeatedly.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
That's an excellent point Buf
February 15, 2007 - 15:27 ET by sarcasmoThat's an excellent point BuffNBone. (In fact, it's so-good I wish I'd said it before you, dangit!). The extreme media bias against homeschooling -- like their various antilibertarian biases -- is a major reason why I'm always trying to annoy the annoying media. I've always found it odd that public schools are so-popular, but I've found through hard experience that speaking against them is very unpopular, despite their typical big-government socialist failure. One year I accidentally discovered the size of the NEA teachers-union by attending a (much-smaller) competing political meeting. Wow...It was sure disheartening!
JMR
I agree with this statement.
February 15, 2007 - 15:04 ET by tracheostomyI agree with this statement. Still waiting on further evidence, like a diary or MySpace or something.
-PJ
Light_of_reft
February 15, 2007 - 18:57 ET by misterbill"Why does the news not seem to mention it? Probably because, while shooting up the mall, he didn't start yelling verses of the Koran, suicide bomb anything, or do anything else that would make you think he was islamic extremist. He seems alot more like any of the other nutcases out their who "just can't take it anymore" and want to take a few people down with them."
Where did you get the data on the incident? I would like to go there and view or read it as the case may be.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
MOSLEMS IN MALLS WITH GUNS, C
February 15, 2007 - 18:14 ET by upcountrywaterMOSLEMS IN MALLS WITH GUNS, Copyright infringement Tom Clancy already covered it. The cops blasted this EVIL twit in 5 minutes, Great work :)
How do you guys know at all t
February 15, 2007 - 19:14 ET by kafkakaeferHow do you guys know at all that he was muslim (meaning that he lived a muslim way of life)?
"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.