On Monday’s "Evening News" on CBS, anchor Katie Couric asserted a common talking point among feminists and that is that women make 76 cents for every dollar a man does, which is a misleading statistic. In a series entitled "The American Spirit," Couric profiled Janet Hanson, the founder of a women’s networking group called 85 Broads, which is dedicated to helping women get ahead, as Hanson doesn't seem to believe a woman can make it on her own:
Katie Couric: "Women earn only 76 cents for every dollar a man earns, and that really hasn’t changed much over the last 30 years. Why?"
Janet Hanson: "Women have to learn how to become better negotiators for themselves, which is hard to do. So they need to see other women doing that successfully, and the whole mission behind this network is that women cannot succeed if they don’t leverage each other’s intellectual firepower."
Yet, an article on CNN Money, written by a woman, argues why the 76 cent statistic is misleading:
But all the wage-gap ratio reflects is a comparison of the median earnings of all working women and men who log at least 35 hours a week on the job, any job. That's it."
It doesn't compare those with equal work, equal training, equal education or equal tenure. Nor does it take into account the hours of overtime worked.
But these key points were not discussed by Couric, leading to the impression that women are discriminated against when it comes to salaries. Yet, there are many factors that lead to disparity in pay. According to the same CNN article cited above:
"Factors may include: more women choose lower-paying professions than men; they move in and out of the workforce more frequently; and they work fewer paid hours on average."
Given these additional facts, it is irresponsible for a news agency to portray the differences in wages as discrimination, and ignoring these other factors that contribute to the "76 cents for every dollar" statistic. For a series called the "American Spirit" which is supposed to profile what is right with America, Couric seems to be doing her best to portray America as being full of rampant sex discrimination in the work place.
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Like I commented under today'
February 13, 2007 - 18:05 ET by Chris NormanLike I commented under today's other Couric post, she lives in a kind of retro-Seventies feminist world. When will she begin arguing for passage of the ERA?
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
I agree, I ahave already comm
February 13, 2007 - 18:16 ET by bigtimerI agree, I ahave already commented on the blithering leftist on two other posts today...
Enough already.
bt,I can picture our Katie,
February 13, 2007 - 18:35 ET by Chris Normanbt,
I can picture our Katie, her perky face all scrunched up, thinking "deep feminist thoughts", typing her commentary, in her office lined with posters of "her feminist heroes (not heroines)", Susan B. Anthony, Margaret Sanger, Germaine Greer, Molly Yard, and the rest of that grim rogues gallery. She tries too hard, don't you think, to convince us and her "sisters" that she is one of them? She's like a nerd trying to be cool, today, by wearing platform shoes and puka shells. :)
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
You raise excellent points, C
February 13, 2007 - 19:07 ET by GalvanicYou raise excellent points, Chris. Couric, like many of the MSM newsreaders, is relatively out of touch with contemporary America, and don't realize we've moved on from the '70s rhetoric they keep regurgitating. Perhaps as some have noted, it's part guilt trip from being compensated a king's ransom for reading queue-cards and tele-prompters. So, they get out and lead the cheers for the good ol' working woman to show all that though they may be ridiculously rich, but they remain ridiculously shallow and naive.
How can you say that...
February 13, 2007 - 19:14 ET by misterbillsarcon
How can you say that...KC is out of touch. That is an unfair charge. Her limousine does not have any special privileges in NY traffic. She pays the same price for her coffee and doughnuts as the working people at the studio. Just because she is rich and a f***in idiot is no reason for you to think she does not pay attention to all those people walking to the subway on those NY streets as she rides by.
An ugly American is one who does not support his country.
Galv,Apart from everything el
February 13, 2007 - 19:26 ET by Chris NormanGalv,
Apart from everything else, there's just something artificial, outdated, and overdone about Ms. Couric's professed feminism.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Thanks, Chris. You just lower
February 13, 2007 - 22:55 ET by Mica the MagnificentThanks, Chris. You just lowered the value of my puka shell collection.
Men and women have differen
February 13, 2007 - 18:23 ET by JDWMen and women have different sensitivities. The dems not only ignore this, they prey upon fiction based on fact. Tell your wife it is not necessary to look nice when you go out, a lot of men don't shave everyday. If you work at an office the unmarried are easily recognized, life is not fulfilled. And anyone who has aborted, the pain never seems to leave. I spend a great deal of time alone with my wife, hard to imagine being single.
JDW
Kerry: "You know, education, if you make the most of it ... you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
Katie Couric
February 13, 2007 - 20:25 ET by PShannonI think any woman that makes $15 million per annum for reading a telepromprter on the poorest rated news broadcast on television ought to find another crusade.
Katie, you are paid how muc
February 13, 2007 - 18:09 ET by awffp1890Katie, you are paid how much for reading the news?
"Not for fame or reward, not for place or rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty." - From the barracks at Ft. Benning
$76,000,000 of the $100,000,0
February 13, 2007 - 18:26 ET by Chris Norman$76,000,000 of the $100,000,000 a comparably perky man would make?
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
So, let's recap: If it is, in
February 13, 2007 - 18:23 ET by jdhawkSo, let's recap: If it is, in fact, true that women make only 76 cents for every dollar a man makes, why aren't business owners only hiring women? Hey, at a 24% discount, if I was a CEO, I would be populating my business with 100% women. But, wait! Why aren't they? There must be another reason - oh, yeah, they're just sexists. Now, I get it! Thanks, Katie!
OK, that's out of the way. Moving right along . . .
By the way, where is Katie the newsreader and last in drive-by media news working - still at CBS? Boy! I hope they got her for 76 cents on the dollar; if they didn't, they paid waaaaaaay too much.
The Perky One
February 13, 2007 - 18:24 ET by Dave RSo, The Perky One goes after what she considers rampant sex discrimination here at home, but has practically nothing to say about the RAMPANT SEX DISCRIMINATION PRACTICED BY MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD?!!!
Keep it up, Katie, and you'll be out of there before summer. There are re-runs drawing a larger audience than you!
I hate newspapermen.....I regard them as spies.....If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast. -Gen. William T. Sherman
Send Katie a quarter and te
February 13, 2007 - 18:26 ET by zhombreSend Katie a quarter and tell her to STFU.
They're ignoring the fact tha
February 13, 2007 - 18:29 ET by Tony SThey're ignoring the fact that women are now (and for the last ten years) the majority of college and post-grad students.
If employers can pay women less than men, why hire men at all? The pay gap is a bogus myth, much like the feminist lie about violence against women going up on Super Bowl Sunday (and credit the Wash. Post for debunking that claim).
The liberal Spirit of America
February 13, 2007 - 18:35 ET by SportPoliticsThat is the liberal Spirit of America, make sure you whine bitch and moan unfairly, with flawed data and lies, just because you can.
I think the hated Couric kept true to her ideals. That's what a liberal thinks America stands for, the right to whine at the top of their lungs with as many lies and skews as possible, and of course that's "speaking truth to power ",or just whining for the ten thousandth time while hopefully fooling the underlings or drawing them along for a fun corruptive ride, but who cares about the truth part when you're trying to save the opressed and downtrodden.
Come on, 76 cents on the do
February 13, 2007 - 18:38 ET by motherbeltCome on, 76 cents on the dollar lady, face facts. You don't earn less because you're a woman. You earn less because you took the job that doesn't require travel or working weekends. Or because you took a year off every time you had a baby. No company is going to pay you a 60-hour a week salary for a 35-hour work week. In spite of what you've heard, you really CAN'T have it ALL.
Grow up and stop whining.
Not true.Don't generalize.Tha
February 13, 2007 - 22:59 ET by BlondeNot true.
Don't generalize.
That's pretty lame, mb.
What is not true? Even in
February 13, 2007 - 23:49 ET by motherbeltWhat
is not true? Even in the Couric story, they say that women move in and
out of the work force more than men. Usually that's for childbirth and
childrearing. And that they are less likely to choose the
highest-paying professions that men do. Probably because they want more
flexibility. Those facts are raised in more than one article about the
disparity in pay.
I don't think it's lame. I think there are very few instances where
a woman works the same hours doing the same job as a man, but gets paid
less. The old adage proves true...if women really do the same work as
men for 25% less money, then why would any company hire men?
I'm not saying that women are wrong to make those choices; just that they do make those choices willingly.
All I can say is "Myth o
February 13, 2007 - 18:59 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarAll I can say is "Myth of Male Power" by Warren Farrell.
Read it and get your blood pressure up. I'd read 10 pages at a time and then put it down to ease off.
"Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain
EvilCon555So Perky KC makes 2
February 13, 2007 - 19:09 ET by EvilCon555EvilCon555
So Perky KC makes 25%, more or less, fewer dollars than her male counter parts based on her own findings? And she has the lowest ratings known to man (ok, known to humans). I'd say that's more than fair reimbursement for plying her trade. Are we in agreement! I hear a hearty "Yeah".
Katie - get the job done and get paid.
As for other women out there - if you feel discriminated against, there are so many, many ways for you to plead your case...from the EOE agency, to unions, to lawyers, to our press and so on...get on it and make your case! It isn't discrimination anymore unless YOU want it to be. No excuses...none. Zip. Nada. Zero.
"Not the cry, but the flight of the wild duck, leads the flock to fly and follow" Chinese Proverb
The quickest way to shut
February 13, 2007 - 19:20 ET by MudhenThe quickest way to shut down this argument is to ask "Where?"
Where do men and women work side by side, at the same occupation, with the same
level of experience and the same level of training or education and the woman
earns 76% of the man's wages?
Most feminists seem to fall back on the male garbage man vs. female nurse argument,
which ignores the laws of supply and demand as they pertain to separate labor
markets. Also the effect of unionization vs. non-union labor and most other
things that an economist would look at. But then most of these talking heads
apparently didn't pay too much attention in Econ 101 in the first place.
Journalism = an occupation for people who like to avoid dealing with
reality.
KC's Face and the American Spirt
February 13, 2007 - 19:36 ET by Six String SpiffHmmmm I think Katie's facial expression is reflective her SPIRIT right about now. What a puss on that woman. Looks like somebody just wizzed in her Cheerios.
Sure, I watch the MSM... Through a pair of crosshairs.
As another possiblity, it c
February 13, 2007 - 20:38 ET by Right2thePointAs another possiblity, it could be she is wizzing in somebody elses cereal.
Whatever happened to that "Positive side of America" show?
February 13, 2007 - 20:00 ET by Six String SpiffI thought the perky one was going report on positive things about our "horrible" country they seem to think we have... this is positive?
Sure, I watch the MSM... Through a pair of crosshairs.
Katie Couric is a spoiled, so
February 13, 2007 - 20:39 ET by Atomic CrusaderKatie Couric is a spoiled, socialist, sexist bigot embarking upon hypocrite of the century. Good lord these lefty liberal types are so painfully boring.
Even though she is wrong on
February 13, 2007 - 20:31 ET by Right2thePointEven though she is wrong on the payscale thingy there is another issue. Not the money made, but the money paid.
I get my hair cut for 12 bucks my wife took 65.
She would buy me a nice shirt for 15 bucks and have to pay 60 for a blouse.
The cost of underwear , well check it yourself, cause I won't go there.
Yeah, right2thepoint...They cost a lot.
February 13, 2007 - 20:42 ET by acaiguanaYeah, right2thepoint...They cost a lot.
For example, I never get squat on Valintine's day, but it seems like I spend a lot on flowers, candy and other stuff. And I don't buy nearly as much 'personal' hygene items. And I don't buy any of that 'smell 'em good stuff to drop around the house; and my dry cleaning bills are nothing compared to; and it seems like shoes...I got three pair. One for living, one for my suit and one for painting. (Honey do list stuff)
And another thing...About all those fad diet thingies, and those massage thingies for the feet; and those jewelery thingies; and...
Well, I'd better quit because I'll get killed by the gals.
:-)
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
Let's see here...My haircut i
February 13, 2007 - 20:54 ET by bigtimerLet's see here...
My haircut is only five dollars more than my guy's, when I go shopping which is about twice a year when I get out of my mountain hide-away, I buy my guy clothes, me too, but the cost is relative, if not less, we have about the same amount of shoes, I always have his Valentine gift(s) ahead of time and lucky if he remembers...so....
We all may be with the wrong partners!
LOL!
Happy Valentines all!
Grrrrf!
ACA,You are truly one of the
February 13, 2007 - 23:03 ET by BlondeACA,
You are truly one of the smart guys....quit while you're ahead.
Laughing.
Having said that...Katie Couric is the idiot of the world...protesting about "equivalency" while earning an obscene salary for doing nothing more than reading the news, poorly.
Sheesh!
Ooooh...I forgot to add...Dan Rather in a skirt. Now I feel better.
OH! RTP you are the man.
February 13, 2007 - 23:16 ET by Chicago RepublicanOH! RTP you are the man. You are so right.
Wife (my best friend in the whole world, greatest woman ever) buys clothes at Macy's/Carson Pirie.
Me: buys clothes at Target. 20 dollar pair of work pants last me more than a year.
Wife: 60 dollar hair cut. Manicure and pedicure, 50? or so.
Me: 17 dollar hair cut from Supercuts. Pick my fingernails. (ok, I admit every six months or so, I get a pedicure with her - guys, its pretty nice.)
Her: shoes from dept store x25 - 50 bucks.
Me: shoes from payless, x1. 20 bucks every three months, plus Odor Eaters.
Katie's view of America and women.
February 13, 2007 - 20:37 ET by acaiguanaKatie's view of America and women.
State Labor Department Officer: "You gotta hire women. A lot of women. At least half you workforce needs to be women."
Greedy Business Guy: "Geez, well, OK, but I can't pay them but 75 cents on the dollar for the same work."
State Labor Department Officer: "That's OK, we don't care."
Greedy Business Guy: "Memo to all plant managers. Have all the guys line up and number off one/two - one/two. Fire all the twos. Hire women to replace those guys and pay them 75 cents on the dollar we pay the men."
Plant Manager: "Boss, uh uh Boss?"
Greedy Business Guy: "What's your problem number two?"
Plant Manager: "Well, I was just thinkin', do they have to wear the 100% protective gear when handling the radioactive isotopes too?"
Greedy Business Guy: "Naw, there's a million more housewives where those come from."
:-)
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
I just realized that I am onl
February 13, 2007 - 20:56 ET by Tom PaineI just realized that I am only earning 1 cent for every dollar that Katie earns. Life is so unfaaaaaaaaaair...
I am Katie, hear me roarI am
February 13, 2007 - 21:43 ET by NeoConfirmedI am Katie, hear me roar
I am a CBS news whore
I am biased
I'm irreplacable
I am woman
Job advertisment
February 13, 2007 - 22:06 ET by dmntd1This ad was on the local paper's site today, thought it fit right in with this topic (bold mine):
Please make sure your train of thought carries freight.
Your tax dollars at work. More War on Poverty money.
February 13, 2007 - 23:19 ET by acaiguanaYour tax dollars at work. More War on Poverty money.
"The manager will help domestic violence program staff effectively incorporate economic planning and education into their services for domestic violence survivors, foster partnerships with local community resources, provide ongoing technical assistance, will assist ICADV with advocacy for state and local policies that reduce economic barriers and maximize survivors’ economic opportunities."
Now, if you read the above and cut through the gibberish, some NGO is going to try to help women get jobs. Instead of actually talking to the women, however, they are going to hire someone to go talk to the people who actually do talk to the women who are going to get jobs. The people who will talk to the women who are going to get jobs work for agencies who have absolutely no idea what they are doing, how businesses work, how people get jobs or produce anything and have zero expectation that the women they talk to about getting jobs will actually get a job primarily because women who are victims of domestic violence for some reason keep going back for more violence. Further, their employees, the people who will talk to the women and help them learn how to get jobs themselves have no idea what they are doing.
Hence this advertisement. They need to hire someone in the NGO world which has never produced one person that knows anything about how to get a job to go teach a buncha other people what they cannot possibly know.
Because this is the blind leading the blind and hiring the blind to teach themselves how to see the 'how to get a job light', this entire effort is wasted because anyone who really does know how to be 'economically empowered' isn't going to waste their life working for $40K a year in some dead end job like this.
Why? Because if this whole project is successful, then none of these people will have a job.
The incentive to work oneself out of a job is sorta hard to find here, but I'm sure there is some rational reason why normal human beings would want to take this job so they wouldn't have a job soon if they are actually successful.
If you could understand my interpretation of what the first part of this post said then you probably need a stiff drink.
ACA
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
Ka,ka,ka,Katie
February 13, 2007 - 22:11 ET by pbthinkerI don't think they've rechecked those figures, since Katie took over at CBS. Just her salary alone must have raised the income level for women to 77 cents.
Coric will be gone soon.
February 14, 2007 - 10:07 ET by Eagle OneCoric will be fired soon, there is no way CBS can go on paying her 15 million a year for this product. The show is unwatchable for all but the truly liberal among us. You can tell just looking at her read the news that she dosen't have a clue. She just not capable.
If your a liberal your a nut!