Ann Coulter Leaves the Boxing Gloves At Home

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On this morning's Today show, viewers were coyly teased of an Ann Coulter versus Michael Eric Dyson debate on race in the 9:30am half-hour. NBC's Natalie Morales tantalized viewers of the upcoming fight with sure to be expected fireworks: "Michael Eric Dyson and conservative commentator Ann Coulter are gonna square off right here. Should be a very good debate." However viewers and perhaps even Today's producers, had to be disappointed as Dyson and Coulter were surprisingly chummy. Morales even remarked: "You're being very civil this morning."

Not surprisingly, Morales did engage in the old habit of one-sided labeling, as she called Coulter a "conservative commentator," but refused to note Dyson's liberal leanings, as he was referred to as merely a "civil rights activist." Morales also called the liberal Dyson's book, Debating Race, "fascinating" and "great," but didn't apply the same superlative adjectives to the conservative Coulter's book, Godless.

The following is the entire transcript of the segment as it occurred on the February 8th Today show.

Natalie Morales: "Race is still a contentious issue in America and civil rights activist Michael Eric Dyson has spent a lot of time arguing about it. Well now in his new book, Debating Race, Michael has used his various public appearances to take a wide-ranging look at racial issues in America. Conservative commentator Ann Coulter is the author of Godless. She's also here with her point of view. Michael and Ann, good morning. Get ready to get deep into debate here, right?"

Michael Eric Dyson: "Alright."

Morales: "Let's talk first about what's been in the news this week. Senator Biden making those comments about Senator Barack Obama. Two Democratic presidential hopefuls and here's what Biden said. 'The first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy.' Comments he made about Obama, which he then later apologized profusely for. He's been on all the talk shows saying it's not what he meant to say. So what do you think, Michael, he may have meant to say?"

Dyson: "I think he was trying to compliment the Senator Obama."

Morales: "Compliment him?"

Dyson: "Yeah, yeah. But, but unintentionally put his foot in his mouth because 'articulate' is one of those code words, racially speaking that suggests that he's not an extension of but an exception to a tradition. I've know a lot of clean, black, sharp, intelligent people. I grew up with them in my household, I've seen them since."

Morales: "Many of them have run for President."

Dyson: "Yes exactly. Jesse Jackson-"

Morales: "Jesse Jackson."

Dyson: "-one of the most articulate people on the globe, so is Al Sharpton. So I think it means if you agree with me-"

Morales: "Carol Moseley Braun."

Dyson: "Exactly, Senator Carol Moseley Braun. 'If you agree with me it's good but if you don't maybe I have a certain ideological lens through which I view it.' But I think Mr. Biden just didn't understand that, that kind of racial discourse has to be put in the proper context."

Morales: "Ann and I know that, I mean, I imagine a lot of damage has been done to Biden's campaign by this but is he, at this point, so, is it so far gone?"

Coulter: "I kind of think so. I mean I hate when, when people have to be worried about making a, just a slip of a tongue but I also totally understand this one. I've known about-"

Morales: "Are, are people making too much of it though? I mean, you know did he, did he apologize enough?"

Coulter: "No, I mean I think it's, yeah sure, sure. I mean I don't think he's a racist, I don't think Trent Lott is a racist. There are slips of tongue but I totally understand the 'articulate' black thing. I've always said this is why I don't like the phrase 'compassionate conservative.' You know, screw you, we think conservatism is compassionate. Unless you're saying most blacks aren't 'articulate' or 'clean.'"

Dyson: "Right, right and I did put my underarm deodorant on today."

Morales: "Well glad to know that but is, is Senator Obama electable? I mean do you both think that he can be the first American black president?"

Dyson: "Sure I think he's highly intelligent. He's extremely elegant. He is articulate in all kinds of ways."

Coulter: "And clean."

Dyson: "He's very clean, he washes up daily but also I think he brings a sense of the ability to identify with people beyond his tribe, his tradition or his own particular perspective and I think, in that sense, but at the same time being able to embrace African-American people. Black people are not gonna vote for Senator Obama just because he's black. They don't believe in pigment politics but they will give him an extraordinary embrace because he seems to resonate with them and with many people beyond their own tradition."

Morales: "Yeah I mean given Senator Hillary Clinton's popularity with blacks though, is he necessarily a shoo-in, Ann, with the black vote?"

Coulter: "No!"

Morales: "No."

Coulter: "No, no."

Dyson: "No."

Coulter: "I mean I've, I've asked Michael about this. Political scientists will study for the next 100 years why blacks love the Clintons so much, but they do."

Dyson: "Very much."

Coulter: "And right now Hillary has the black vote and I, I gotta say I mean, I, yeah, I don't think race would hurt Obama but I think the first black president should be an American black and a Republican."

Morales: "A Republican? Michael, I'm thinking you probably don't agree with that?"

Dyson: "No I don't think that's the case but no, no but I think that Ann's point is right. That Hillary Clinton has an enormous reservoir of good passion and sentiment among African-American people. There's a fellow, there's a fellow feeling with the Clintons. You know when you look at the funeral of Corretta Scott King, our President Bush was there, kind of stiff and not in his element. Bill Clinton walks in like, like 'I'm running the church, I'm the pastor.' So, and black people respond to that but I think Hillary Clinton has an awful lot of black support that Mr. Obama will have to really work to win."

Morales: "Let's move on to another issue because some state legislators, legislatures are now passing resolutions apologizing for slavery. In fact in Virginia they just passed a resolution expressing 'profound regret.' However a state delegate, Frank Hargrove questioned the need for these resolutions and even went as far as saying that blacks should just, quote, 'get over it.' Whaddaya make of this?"

Dyson: "Well it's unfortunate, again. I think that obviously an apology without consequential action is nothing, but you must apologize. If you do something wrong for a person you must say you're sorry. And to say, 'Get over slavery,' well, get over cancer, get over, you know the disease you have. Get over the Holocaust. I don't think so. I think we have to work through them and this is part of the sentiment and passion that black people are so disgusted with. We have, must talk about things. We can disagree. Ann and I disagree about a lot of issues but we can be civil and humane to one another and acknowledge our humanity."

Morales: "Actually you're being very civil this morning."

Coulter: "He's the only liberal I can stand talking to. If I could say about this. I mean what's wrong about what Hargrove's, it just hit me when you were saying it. I promise you this resolution was not introduced by a black person. This is white people engaging in a completely meaningless gesture."

Dyson: "I think it was a black guy who did it."

Morales: "Yeah."

Coulter: "You know stand up to slavery when, when slavery is on the table. Stand up against abortion because that's what we're fighting now. Stand up against illegal immigration because that's what we're fighting now. To be coming along 150 years later when everyone opposes, ahh, I just can't stand meaningless gestures like that."

Dyson: "Well but we can link, we can link slavery to-"

Morales: "Meaningless but in a way is it still necessary?"

Dyson: "Oh it's quite necessary. I think, look we live in the United States of Amnesia. Barbra Streisand has the theme song: 'What's too painful to remember, we simply choose to forget.' Let's pretend it didn't exist. No let's deal it, with on the table. Let's put it out there and let's engage it. Slavery-"

Morales: "Well we're still dealing with so much race issues in this country."

Dyson: "Racial profiling, the way in which Michael Richards, hello? I mean that was the racial Holy Ghost coming into him and he starts-"

Morales: "Racial Holy Ghost-"

Dyson: "'I don't know where it came from but it just jumped out of me.' 'Fork, black people, lynching!' Yeah we got a long way to go."

Morales: "Well the book is fascinating."

Coulter: "On the slavery point if I could just say I agree with you that slavery is something special and different but you and I, you want that little Rainbow Coalition thing going. No I say blacks are special. You came here as slaves you get special treatment. Not illegal immigrants, not gays, not women."

Morales: "Let's keep this debate going during the commercial because we're running out of time."

Dyson: "Alright."

Morales: "Michael Eric Dyson, it's a great book."

Dyson: "Thank you."

Morales: "It's really, really a fascinating read called Debating Race. And we'll be back right after this. Ann Coulter, thanks."

—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Once again Dyson and Morales

Once again Dyson and Morales are two race hustlers. I'll repeat it for, oh, the 1 millionth plus time: THERE IS NO INSTITUTIONAL RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY. There are no outstanding race issues to resolve. Get over the 60's. Move to the 21st century.

Amen, my friend.

Amen, my friend.

Mr. Kafir, with all due respe

Mr. Kafir, with all due respect.

If what you say is correct, then the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the congressional black caucus, etc. will be out of business. You're talking big money here.

What do you expect these people to do? Open a snowcone stand?!

No, Mr. Kafir, there must be institutional racism in this country. Too many people depend on it to earn a living.

He did it! He did it! Jesse Jackson actually found racism in this glass of water! --- a dewey-eyed supporter

Mica, I'm going to go out on

Mica, I'm going to go out on a limb and speak for Kafir - we agree with you my friend. 

THERE IS NO INSTITUTIONAL R

THERE IS NO INSTITUTIONAL RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY.

I'm going to go out on a limb here (and probably get shot for it), but I believe that there is indeed "institutional racism" in America. The institution in question is the NAA(L)CP.

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VOTE DEMOCRAT!

(It's easier than thinking)

Please correct me if I am w

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Mel Gibson makes some comments about Jews and Hollywood is discussing the possibility of him never working there again.

Isaiah Washington of Gray's Anatmoy makes a "homophobic" slur and the guy is in rehab over it. Once again, Hollywood is furious.

Now on to Michael Richards. He used the queen mother of dirty words (no not that one Christmas Story fans) and all I hear from Hollywood is crickets chirping.

Somebody please explain this to me.

"Not for fame or reward, not for place or rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty." - From the barracks at Ft. Benning

ann was purposely civil

She is cool and laconic around fools; here not so confrontational. There has to be a reason, don't ya think?

One, her cool antennae said to her, "Baby; they're deliberatel setting you up. You're leaving here today tarred as a filthy, racist bi--tch. They'll work you over expecting you to come at them politically incorrect, and there you go, the way of every convicted racist.

Or, Two, --Cool Ann says to herself: "This piece of dreck network is hoping to boost their ferschlugginer ratings on my eager participation. They can ESAD, I'm staying cool and non-committal. For the pittance I figure to make on this gig; let them go beat the bushes for some other sacrificial lamb." Tell you what; on Foxnews she would've plucked them both like squabs.

Ann is the Queen of Dry Humor

Ann was firing on all cyliners and yet she was barely a part of the conversation.

Does she get introduced as "Best Selling Author" or anything no, does she get the plug at the end, no.

Meanwhile Morales and Dyson are having a conversation with Ann getting in a couple sentences.

Ann says the first black president should be a Republican and it gets blown off in favor of facetiously suggeting that Hillary was a hit with blacks.

Of course you've gotta love the comment from Dyson that blacks don't vote on Race. The first black mayor of Chicago was a Convict and embezzeled money and was eventually put back in prison if I am not mistaken. He was voted in entirely on racial lines and the fact that Blacks vote 70% democrat shows that as a group they are not independent voters but vote on racial lines.

voting for racial reasons?

OH, N o o o; never!

There must be a scattering of impartial African Americans who'll vote against a black candidate on principle. Just a few.

But either they vote in favor of a Marion Barry. --Or they stay home.

Tongue-in-cheek visual

To see a tongue-in-cheek visual of Ann Coulter fighting the new "war on terror"...link here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/06/fighting_the_new_war_on_terror.php

Is it "yard time" a

Is it "yard time" at Quentin already? I didn't even click the link cause I know you're a troll. Go back to your cell and ja*k off.

Love, Sancho

Jesse Jackson is articulate??

Jesse Jackson is articulate???????????????

"I hear that melting-pot stuff a lot, and all I can say is that we haven't melted."
Jesse Jackson

Jesse Jackson

Jesse Jackson is not articulate. You cannot understand him. Part of that has to do with a repaired cleft palate I am sure, but I can only understand about every 4th word he speaks.

I think people pretend to understand him because they think the person next to them has better hearing and does understand him. But no one understands him.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Obama is NOT articulate, but is glib

I dispute the notion that Obama is "articulate." Like many people and politicians he is, in fact, merely "glib."

And that is a trait many mistake for articulacy.

Being articulate is not simply the ability to string words together in a fluent manner. That is only one half of the definition. Unfortunately it's the part that gets all the play.

To be articulate one also needs the extra dimension of being able to speak "coherently."

I haven't heard Barack Obama say anything remotely "coherent." He simply mouths empty socialist phrases, failed policies and banal cliches about coming together. Urggghhh.

Sure, he's says words fluently; and you might also note the same facile ability in Al Sharpton, Bill Clinton, and Jesse Jackson.

But that is mere glibness, as defined by the OED:

Glib: Fluent and voluable, but insincere and shallow.

So please, let us all unite, black and white around the truth that Barack Obama is NOT articulate.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

I don't think Obama is seas

I don't think Obama is seasoned-enough by the private sector to be a good President this time, but don't underestimate this man. In order to become editor of the Harvard Law Review, he had to win over conservative Harvard law students -- these aren't exactly dummies that could easily be won-over with glib talk. What I'd like to see is a real debate where Obama explains why he likes the idea of public financing of campaigns (welfare for politicians!) even though he apparently doesn't like some of the rules involved when they're applied to his own nascent campaign...I would hope to convince him he's wrong, because there's enough US government-funded propaganda right f---ing now, to be perfectly-frank, and ideally any Democrats halfway respectful of the First Amendment would be against all of it because, as I've repeatedly-had-to-say here in various contexts, compelled speech is "sinful and tyranical."
JMR

I don't underestimate him a

I don't underestimate him at all.

I don't think glibness has ever been a handicap in politics. The Clinton's are supreme practitioners of that art.

It just amused me to:

#1 See the President ripped by a few black media whores for answering honesty in his opinion that he thought Obama was "articulate."

#2. The fact that most people don't seem to understand that being 'articulate' is much more than speaking fluently.

To me, today, from what I've heard him say, he is certainly not articulate in his political musings. He seems very shallow, unoriginal, empty and bogus. But that's just me!

Some find that articulate because he says it fluently.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

Let's see here. The first s

Let's see here. The first slaves were the Jews and Arabs of what is now called the Middle East. The first slavemasters were from what is now called Egypt (part of Africa, for those of you geographically challenged). The timeframe was about 5-6 thousands years before Europe was 'civilized', which was also before America was founded. So why should Americans apologize for slavery?

D

Want your elected reps to know what you think? Go to http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/, it's real easy.

Maybe you don't understand,

However, Dont,

In my own heart there isn't such facile indifference. I have no wish to render official apologies to the descendents of our country's slaves. Nor reparations from our Treasury to appease the anger of crazy people.

But it's no virtue to go into prehistory and use the spirits of dead slavemasters as a precedent for our own evils. Evil is evil and we should confess we've been unjust in the past. Confess it before Almighty God, if not on our knees to the present minorities who still carry deep resentment. If they didn't have something to resent we wouldn't see today the pandering liars who stir up hatred where there ought to be brotherly love. We all have to confess the old injustices or they'll never be forgotten. Just my .02 cts.