Newscasts Leave Out Liberal Label in Court Ruling Against Wal-Mart

Photo of Scott Whitlock.
  • Bookmark and Share

Sometimes media bias can be found in what the networks don’t say. On Tuesday, Wal-Mart suffered a major blow when the liberal 9th Circuit Court in California ruled that a class action lawsuit claiming sex discrimination could proceed against the company. All three evening newscasts reported the story, with ABC and CBS noting that a "federal appeals court" had sided with the female plaintiffs. Over on NBC, "Nightly News" anchor Brian Williams simply used the phrase "federal court."

However, the 9th circuit isn’t just any court. This is the group of judges that ruled the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional. And, according to a report by the Center for Individual Freedoms, 32 percent of the reversals by the United States Supreme Court in 2003 came from the 9th Circuit. And yet, none of the network anchors thought this a pertinent point. "World News" anchor Charlie Gibson instead chose to hype the enormity of the case:

Charles Gibson: "It is a lawsuit so large in scope and size, that it staggers the imagination. A federal appeals court ruled today that a gender bias suit against Wal-Mart can proceed in what is known as a class-action suit. That means a million and a half to two million women would-be plaintiffs arguing, as a group or class, that Wal-Mart discriminated against them in providing promotions and in paying them less than male employees. Here's our senior law and justice correspondent, Jim Avila."

Story Continues Below Ad ↓

In fact, the 9th circuit became so notorious, that there has been talk of dismantling it. However, in the "World News" segment, which aired at 6:30pm on February 6, ABC reporter Jim Avila seemed almost excited by the "message" that would be sent to corporate America:

Avila: "Wal-Mart attorneys lost their argument that defending a class-action suit is unfair because it would be impossible to cross-examine each of the two million women accusing them. Wal-Mart claimed its workers should be required to sue each store individually. Today, the court majority said that is impossible. But the lone dissenting judge worried that a class-action suit would reward all plaintiffs equally and enrich undeserving workers and lawyers. Next for Wal-Mart, attorneys will appeal to anyone who will listen, from the full appeals court to the Supreme Court. But if Wal-Mart loses, it could cost them billions in damage, sending an expensive message to corporate America that no matter how big you are, employee discrimination can be costly."

Both the NBC "Nightly News" and the "CBS Evening News with Katie Couric" featured news briefs on the story. Neither mentioned the 9th Circuit’s liberal history or proclivity to be overturned. Apparently labels are only necessary when one is discussing conservatives.

A transcript of the "World News" segment follows:

Charles Gibson: "It is a lawsuit so large in scope and size, that it staggers the imagination. A federal appeals court ruled today that a gender bias suit against Wal-Mart can proceed in what is known as a class-action suit. That means a million and a half to two million women would-be plaintiffs arguing, as a group or class, that Wal-Mart discriminated against them in providing promotions and in paying them less than male employees. Here's our senior law and justice correspondent, Jim Avila."

Jim Avila: "It's America's biggest store, biggest employer, and now, must defend itself against a huge female group of its own employees who claim Wal-Mart is also the biggest discriminator in the country. A federal appeals court in California ruling today that there is, quote, 'significant proof of a corporate policy of discrimination,’ that supports the contention that, 'female employees nationwide were subjected to a common pattern and practice of discrimination.’"

Betty Dukes (plaintiff): "Our words are true. We are not falsely accusing Wal-Mart. We are stating the facts as they have occurred."

Avila: "The women claim Wal-Mart systematically pays its female staff 5 percent to 15 percent less than its male workers in comparable jobs. And that while the Wal-Mart workforce is two-thirds female, women get only one-third of all promotions to management."

Christine Kwapnski (plaintiff): "I was making half what the men made and, you know, I was over those same men, training them on their jobs."

Jim Avila: "For its part, Wal-Mart, in a telephone news conference, said it will appeal this decision as far as the Supreme Court. The company denies it discriminates and says it strongly promotes diversity in the workplace. And in 2005, its CEO promised to correct any valid complaints."

Lee Scott: "The exceptions that occur, we're going to deal with very strongly. It's our obligation, not only to our associates, but it's our obligation to society."

Avila: "Wal-Mart attorneys lost their argument that defending a class-action suit is unfair because it would be impossible to cross-examine each of the two million women accusing them. Wal-Mart claimed its workers should be required to sue each store individually. Today, the court majority said that is impossible. But the lone dissenting judge worried that a class-action suit would reward all plaintiffs equally and enrich undeserving workers and lawyers. Next for Wal-Mart, attorneys will appeal to anyone who will listen, from the full appeals court to the Supreme Court. But if Wal-Mart loses, it could cost them billions in damage, sending an expensive message to corporate America that no matter how big you are, employee discrimination can be costly. Charlie?"

UPDATE (23:15 EST): The MRC's Business & Media Institute also wrote about Avila's unbalanced reporting, accessible here.

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


Comments Policy

All comments are owned by whoever posted them and are subject to our terms of use. They should not be assumed to represent the views of NewsBusters.

Viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

"Sometimes media bias ca

"Sometimes media bias can be found in what the networks don't say..."

I'd say most of the bias is what is not said, not reported, suppressed, placed on the "back page" etc.

I agree. It's a much more sub

I agree. It's a much more subtle form of deception. When the MSM ignore something some people won't even realize the bias that's going on. Plus it makes it easier to escape accountability. They don't have to try to stand by false reports (like Dan Rather kept doing with the phony Bush memo story - which I'm sure was what led to his departure). By just not reporting at all there's nothing to have to defend other than why they ignored it (and then can always use the excuse that they felt other things in the news were more prominent at the time [like Britney Spears' latest fashion style]).

Why can't Walmart hire who th

Why can't Walmart hire who they want and promote those who they want?

Thank you Scott for the percentage reversal numbers.

Thank you Scott for the percentage reversal numbers.

This is the most reversed Court of Appeals in the United States.  They are very Liberal and are responsible for a large number of very bad decisions that don't get appealed to the Supreme Court.

One of Bush's largest efforts as President has been to try to appoint as many conservative justices to this court as possible.  I'm not sure of the size of the 9th Circuit today, but it is very large.  And many times the judges ruling are all of the Liberal persuasion.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

"The most reversed circu

"The most reversed circuit in the United States?"  Do you mean it is the busiest?

Data from a more recent period than cited in this blog:  During the 2004-2005 term the US Supreme Court took 69 cases and reversed 51 (74%).  100% of the cases heard from the 1st, 2nd, and 10th Circuits were reversed.  84% of the 9th Circuit cases were reversed.  84% is less than 100%.

For the period 2000-2006, I expect the 9th Circuit's average of reversals is very close to the national figure.

J Frank. At it again I see. Y

J Frank. At it again I see. Your wrong on two counts. 100% or the cases from 3 circuits were not reversed, example, the law forbiding gay marriage in Oklahoma, 10 circuit, was up heald by the Supreme Court, so  your 100% is dead wrong, research will bare that out. I think you made that stat up. And Second!, 3 courts do not add up to one little circuit, the 9th. The 9th is the most reversed court in the land. No excuses, no if's no and's no but's. Fact of life.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Your post lacks facts and dat

Your post lacks facts and dates. Don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your beliefs. And be sure to always post before you have the facts in hand!

Please do us all one favor - don't "bare" your research...

Or should we just take your word for it that "The 9th is the most reversed court in the land?"

Your post contained no proof

Your post contained no proof of the "facts" you listed. The 9th has historically been the most overturned court in the nation. One good year, if that is true, doesn't change the longterm score. Are we supposed to take YOUR word that your facts are true? Sources.

Actually, I did cite numbers.

Actually, I did cite numbers.  But if you would like some more, here they are:

2003-2004 Supreme Court Term:  9th Circuit cases reversed: 76%.  National:  77%

2002 - 2003 Supreme Court Term:  9th Circuit cases reversed:  75%.  National:  73%.

2001 - 2002 Supreme Court Term:  9th Circuit cases reversed: 76%.  National:  78%.

Surely you could do your own research!

There are a number of issues other than pure numbers, such as the size of the 9th Circuit (and the area it covers); the fact that California often leads the nation; the philosophy that Circuit judges should decide cases as they see them and not as they think the US Supreme Court will review them; the fact that the US Supreme Court doesn't hear uncontroversal cases, etc.

Facts without the source are

Facts without the source are useless. When you come in and challenge the blog you should provide a source for your "facts". Not demand that we do our own research to disprove your "facts". What, do you think we sit here and wait for you to give us an assignment?

Besides - you are wrong.

OK, you convinced me.  Not.I

OK, you convinced me.  Not.

I took the time to research the issue and present the truth.  We're not talking about obscure items here.  The decisions of the US Supreme Court are readily available.

You simply state "you are wrong" and back it up with nothing.  Zip.  Nada.  Goose egg.  In other words, your entire argument is "I'm right and you're wrong."

Wow!  That's a zinger...

J frank - you are the one w

J frank - you are the one with Zip - the blog links to an article with the statistics and yours do not agree so put up or shut up

The blog links to two article

The blog links to two articles from one source. One article is dated July 25, 2004. The other is even older - July 22, 2003. There haven't been any US Supreme Court decisions since mid-2004? What are we paying them for? These articles attempt to show the 9th Circuit is "most reversed" because it is the busiest in the nation. Yes, the US Supreme Court reverses more of their decisions than any other Circuit's because the 9th is the busiest in the country. On a percentage basis, the decisions of the 9th Circuit are reversed roughly as often as all the Circuit decisions in the US. Why is that so tough to grasp? If anyone has facts to dispute my statements bring em on. Until then you're sitting at the table bluffing with a busted flush...

J Frank - I'm not sitting a

J Frank - I'm not sitting at the table and neither are you until you have some cards. You are standing on the sidelines with your own deck and expecting to play and have everyone trust that your deck is legit.

Read the entire source article and it explains the selective distorted point you are talking about. I'm not going to continue posting things and chasing things that you are not backing up. Here is one part that pertains to the point you are trying to make.

"It is true that the
overall reversal rate of the 9th Circuit (76%) was lower than that of some
other federal appellate courts — most notably the 2nd, 5th, 10th, 11th,
D.C., and Federal Circuits, which were all reversed 100 percent of the time
this past term. Yet these "complete" reversal rates are likely
caused by the U.S. Supreme Court’s much less frequent review of those
circuits along with the justices’ proclivity to review cases in which
they are predisposed to reverse the lower court’s judgment. Specifically,
the High Court decided only 19 cases from the 2nd, 5th, 10th, 11th, D.C.,
and Federal Circuits combined (two from the 2nd, six from the 5th, three
from the 10th, four from the 11th, three from the D.C. Circuit, and one
from the Federal Circuit), compared with the 25 cases the Supreme Court
took up from the 9th Circuit alone, including the 19 that were reversed. "

Given that the article is, wh

Given that the article is, what, 30 months old, the point is the blog states the 9th Circuit is the most reversed in the nation. That is repeated by many blowhards - O'Really?, Insanity, the good Dr. Dobson, ole BlunderRush, and others of their ilk. That arguement only holds if one looks at absolute numbers. The 9th is the busiest. On a percentage basis the reversal rate of the 9th Circuit is roughly the national average (keeping in mind a relatively small sample size). Not the highest. Not the lowest. The average (as that term is generally used - let's not get into a discussion of all the different averages).

J Frank - you need to read

J Frank - you need to read the whole article. I'm not going to keep taking up space cutting and pasting when you can just read it. I already noticed that I duplicated something from ACA. You need to read it - the source is there. If you have one for us to read we will read it with their analysis. We are not trusting yours - that is all there is to it. It's not personal.

J -- if you did the research

J -- if you did the research then post the source. It is pretty easy.

You don't seem to like my arguement of "I'm right and your wrong." Do you understand that is exactly what you did with your first post? Facts without sources are useless. Prove the blog wrong frank with facts AND sources. Otherwise have a good day sir. CYA

re 9th circuit

This from Center for Individual Freedom Foundation:

"This means that, on average, a case from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit was more than twice as likely to be reviewed and produce a written decision by the U.S. Supreme Court than was a case from the other federal appeals courts.  By contrast, a case from the second busiest circuit, the 5th, was nearly a third less likely to be reviewed and decided by the High Court than the average federal appellate case."

j. frank, this is why I don't debat you. Knife to gunfight again

j. frank, this is why I don't debat you. Knife to gunfight again.  I'd suggest that you in all of your heavy lifting research simply needed to read the article this blog cites.

Since you obviously missed it, I'll link to it again here.

Since you seem to have trouble with links, I'll actually put a little of the article in here:

"Some legal experts attribute the High Court’s frequent review of 9th Circuit decisions to that court’s staggering size and caseload. With a full complement of 28 judges, the 9th Circuit has more judges than any other federal appellate court and exercises jurisdiction over nine states and two territories (California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Montana, Idaho, Nevada, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands). But if the 9th Circuit’s gigantic caseload is to explain its dismal record in the U.S. Supreme Court, then the frequency of review and reversal should at least correspond to its size and share of the federal appellate cases it hears. They do not.

"Although the 9th Circuit’s caseload comprised approximately 19 percent of the federal appellate cases terminated on the merits in the year ending September 30, 2003, its decisions accounted for more than a third (37%) of all the federal appellate decisions reviewed by the Supreme Court that produced written opinions this past term. Comparatively, the 5th Circuit decided nearly 16 percent of federal appeals cases, but accounted for only 9 percent of the Supreme Court’s docket that came from the federal appellate courts. The third largest federal appeals court, the 11th Circuit, accounted for nearly 11 percent of federal appellate caseload, but only 6 percent of the federal appellate cases reviewed by the Supreme Court originated there. In fact, even the second most-frequently reviewed and reversed federal appellate court this term, the 6th Circuit, accounted for only 12 percent of the Supreme Court’s federal appellate docket while making up just 8 percent of the total federal appellate caseload nationwide."

If you bother to read the article, I have no doubt you won't, you will see that every argument you have brought to the board is smashed into oblivion.

Not even the most extreme Leftist on the Left Coast under the jurisidiction of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals argues that the court isn't reversed all over the gameboard every year.

So, until you can figure out how to frame the argument with facts; and I might suggest learn how to read and comprehend; go away.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

Again, this article attempts

Again, this article attempts to show the 9th Circuit is the "most reversed" because it is the busiest. I pointed that out in my first post.

The fact remains that the percentage of 9th Circuit cases reversed by the US Supreme Court is approximately the same as the national average. Both averages run in the mid-70's.

The absolute number of cases is higher for the reasons I cited.

You can spin it all day long - but you can't change it.

I haven't seen one cite from you yet. You simply cannot read.

I haven't seen one cite from you yet.  You simply cannot read.

The article above clearly demonstrates you are wrong.

Either back up your silly idea of the number of cases reversed being the national average with a citation or give it up.  The article cited above addresses that argument quite nicely.

I don't quite know what you are doing here j. frank.  You have been asked several times for cites and you either refuse to provide them or cannot provide them.

At some point not only does this become borish, but it becomes the behavior of someone who is an ignorant man.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

J Frank, Well, well. Lookie h

J Frank, Well, well. Lookie here! In your earlier post you asserted that 100% of the cases heard by the Surpeme Court, of the 2nd and 10th and one other, were over turned. Here you are saying something else. So I see you have proved the point, that the 100% figure was a lie, made up in your little 9th circuit mind. But you seem to think it is up to us to go look. Cite the location of the stats you spout there boy. Let us go look where you are looking? Oh? Whats that? You forgot? Good going there J. Your on a roll.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

You're helpless - along with

You're helpless - along with being a rather poor hand at typing.

Go back and read the posts again - you're thoroughly confusing the numbers.  Do try to keep them straight.  It helps understand the point.

J frank sayes:

J frank said:

"Data from a more recent period than cited in this blog:  During the 2004-2005 term the US Supreme Court took 69 cases and reversed 51 (74%).  100% of the cases heard from the 1st, 2nd, and 10th Circuits were reversed.  84% of the 9th Circuit cases were reversed.  84% is less than 100%."

Went back and checked. You said 100%. You lied, plain and simple. I got it right. The problem with telling so many lies, is it will catch up to you. It has...again.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

J. frank wilson

J. frank wilson - I will make one statement, then I will not address the issue again. Since this little debate started out here, I have researched the history and tenor of the 9th circuit. Everything I have read (Cato inst, etc) either flat out states or demonstrates that it is an ill run, extremely liberal court. your denials come across as simply "don't confuse me with the facts". When anyone is so blind as to have that attitude, no amount of proof will suffice. I close saying that you are wrong and I feel you are an agent provocateur at this site.

Arrivederci per sempre.

did someone say "pesky?&

did someone say "pesky?"

Nice one!

Nice one!

Indeed.  ;-)Like Stan and Ky

Indeed.  ;-)

Like Stan and Kyle in the Crips episode, I'm staying out of this one.

J Frank - you are the one cha

J Frank - you are the one challenging the blog so you should source your "facts" anyone can put up dates. Even assuming your facts, it doesn't mean they are the busiest, it could more likely mean they have more cases with questionable rulings. The Court doesn't hear or make rulings on all cases.

You're free to do your own re

You're free to do your own research.  I did.

It is an article of Conservative faith that the 9th is the most reversed Circuit in the US.  It is repeated so often by the radio gasbags that after awhile folks just assume it is true because they've heard it so often.  Gee - could Dr. Dobson be mistaken?  Bull O'Really and Sheer Insanity be wrong?

Yes - the facts don't support that proposition.

You may either believe the facts or ascribe to the article of faith.  That part is up to you...

Not Frank Wilson - could h

Not Frank Wilson - could he be wrong? ; ) I don't know he wouldn't support his facts so I assume he must be. The facts you state don't agree with the facts in this article and its link.

It's not the way it works to throw up any old numbers and when challenged to tell people to do their own research. If you have done it - you should have sources. If we think your sources are questionable than maybe one of us will take the time to look into it further. As it is now - you numbers have no credibility.

jfrank,The Ninth Circuit Cour

jfrank,

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is a complete joke. It always has been.  That is why many refer to it as the Ninth Circus Court. Given this court's record, and if I were Wal-Mart, I would feel pretty good about my chances of having this hideous ruling reversed.

The war that the left has declared against Wal-Mart is getting beyond stupid. What Wal-Mart chooses to pay its employees is between the management of the company and the employees of same. It is nobody else's business, especially the government's.

If the employees of Wal-Mart do not like their compensation, they are free to go work for someone else.  Wal-Mart, like all corporations, is not in business to provide jobs.

I hate newspapermen.....I regard them as spies.....If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast. -William T. Sherman

OK, Dave, share with us &quot

OK, Dave, share with us "this court's record."  What is it?

jfrank,Here, here, here and

jfrank,

Here, here, here and here you will find some interesting comments on this court by no less a figure than Tom Daschle, a  D E M O C R A T!

As I said, If I were Wal-Mart, I'd be heading straight to the U.S. Supreme Court.

I hate newspapermen.....I regard them as spies.....If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast. -William T. Sherman

Oooops--sorry

Oooops--sorry, I posted an excerpt above of the full article which link you had already posted. I tuned in late and should have paid closer attention to who you were trying to educate.

Good luck!

Thanx - I'll need it. I feel

Thanx - I'll need it. I feel like Daniel wearing pork chop underwear.

Way to go!  Articles from 20

Way to go!  Articles from 2004 and 2003 weren't old enough - now we have 2 from 2002!  What's next - a commentary on Plessey vs. Ferguson?

This is a totally suprious argument j. frank. About what I expe

This is a totally suprious argument j. frank.  About what I expect from you.

You are making assertive statements and relating 'facts' with no citations.

Either get some cites or quit.  You have been proven wrong as to your assertions about case loads, national averages and all the other silly comments you are making.

And now you have to run under a rock and say, "Ah, the data cited by youse guys is old."

Doesn't work j. Frank.  No one here is buying it.  You are really either obtuse about the facts or you are just upset that your favorite bastion of Liberal Legislative Action (the courts) are being exposed for the dictatorship they have become.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

"You have been proven wr

"You have been proven wrong as to your assertions about...national averages..."

Which post was that?

This post, j. frank.

This post j. frank.  <attribution above>

"Although the 9th Circuit’s caseload comprised approximately 19 percent of the federal appellate cases terminated on the merits in the year ending September 30, 2003, its decisions accounted for more than a third (37%) of all the federal appellate decisions reviewed by the Supreme Court that produced written opinions this past term. Comparatively, the 5th Circuit decided nearly 16 percent of federal appeals cases, but accounted for only 9 percent of the Supreme Court’s docket that came from the federal appellate courts. The third largest federal appeals court, the 11th Circuit, accounted for nearly 11 percent of federal appellate caseload, but only 6 percent of the federal appellate cases reviewed by the Supreme Court originated there. In fact, even the second most-frequently reviewed and reversed federal appellate court this term, the 6th Circuit, accounted for only 12 percent of the Supreme Court’s federal appellate docket while making up just 8 percent of the total federal appellate caseload nationwide."

Now, I can understand 'averages' might be a little difficult as a mathematical concept for you.  Some surveys show an alarming number of people don't understand percentages either.

Maybe you can find a neighbor to explain it all to you.

I'm bored with you j. frank.  As I told you before, I don't get into intellectual duals with unarmed people.

And you are certainly unarmed and unwilling to bring any cites or facts to this discussion.  That makes you a total waste of time.  Although very easy to demolish.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

Another swing and a miss.  Y

Another swing and a miss.  You conflate absolute numbers and percentage of reversal.  A common "error" - particularly by those trying to prove a point that is incorrect.

 In the meantime, you wanted a cite, you'll find it below.

Or scuttle back like a lizard in the light.

Ah, j. frank. This is why talking to uneducated people is hard.

Ah, j. frank.  This is why talking to uneducated people is hard.

Let me see if I heard this right.  I conflate absolute numbers with percentages.

Um...

OK.

Yeah, I guess I do that.

I'll just have to live with it.  I'd like to see you define exactly why that would be an 'error'?

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

Wow. 2002 is too back back in

Wow. 2002 is too back back in history. No wonder Liberals have forgotten 9/11, it was soooo far back.

Here is the Wikipedia entry on the 9th Circuit Court.

Here's for the 1st , 2nd, and 3rd. Interesting. Only the 9th has a copious listing of controversial, Liberal overturning of cases.  Interesting, indeed.

What, precisely, is a &quot;L

What, precisely, is a "Liberal" overturning of cases?

#1. 2002 isn't &quot;history.

#1. 2002 isn't "history." Still journalism - too new to be history. #2. My point isn't to forget events from 2002 - and certainly not from 2001. Rather, consider that things have also happened since then. Along with citing articles from years ago, let's include some recent events, as well.

Huh?

How is the past NOT history?

Instead of trying to sound smarter than everyone else, perhaps you could work on being smarter.

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???"  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

&quot;History&quot; requires

"History" requires enough time to have passed for the causes and effects of events to be recounted - some people say 25 years, some say longer.  It's a matter of taste.

For example, today one could write a history of the war in Viet Nam.  One could write an account of the current war in Iraq - but it wouldn't be history, even if the author started with the invasion.

The classic example is Henry Kessinger asking the Prime Minister of China his opinion of the French Revolution.  His reply:  "Too early to tell."

On history

And you would be incorrect.  No historian (amateur or professional) or history professor I know would say that and I know many of both.

I can write history on whatever I want just as soon as it vanishes from the present and becomes part of the past.  I can write a history of yesterday, of last week, of last month...today, if I wanted to.  And it would be called history, as history is nothing more than the records of past events.  Now, whether or not it will be good history is a discussion for historians and other ivory-tower types, and then eventually leads to a discussion of something called historiography (which is essentially the history of history).  But history is history. 

Again, j. frank wilson, instead of trying to sound smarter than everyone else on NB, and desperately aspiring to be the supreme intellectual here...why not invest your energies more wisely into actually BECOMING one? 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

You confuse history and journ

You confuse history and journalism - the first draft of history.

Go ahead and ask the professors or historians.  They will tell you the same thing if they know what they are talking about.

History is more than the simple recounting of events.  It is the why and the how - and the results.

For the thousandth time, stop

For the thousandth time, stop trying to sound like NB's supreme intellectual and actually try to BECOME one.

This shall be extremely painful for you to accept, but I can write a HISTORY of yesterday if I want, complete with whys, hows, and results.  But that view changes over time (look up "historiography" sometime).  Contort it however you want, but as every day is future to past (hat tip to Dream Theater), it becomes history.

Or are you so smart, that you want to redefine the entire English language?  Did you hear anyone say, for instance, on Sunday night: "Super Bowl XLI is now in the journalistic record and will become history in 50 more years"?

In closing, as I must help power the American economy so that whiny Leftists can plot to steal from me (go to work), stop digging a deeper hole for yourself, stop making yourself look foolish, and actually work on becoming the intellectual you aspire to be.  You are only embarrassing yourself.  And while you are at it, I recommend taking a Historical Methods course sometime.

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

unsane -- he's the third ra

unsane -- he's the third rate English professor, at a third rate college, who's been writing the next great American novel for the past thirty years, and is on page 2697.

It's a good job he thinks so highly of himself, because we don't.

"Journalism is the first draft of history." Gosh, better note that one down.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

OK - Here's a real life examp

OK - Here's a real life example.  President Gerald Ford pardons Richard Nixon.  It probably cost him the presidency when he was not elected.

Today, most people would agree that President Ford's decision was the correct one.  Time has shown it was the right thing to do.

President Harry S Truman is another good example.  People didn't think too much of him or his Presidency in the mid- or late 50's or for some time after.  Time passed - "Plain Speaking" came out, then "Truman."  Today many people would agree that he was quite a successful president and the tough choices he made were generally correct.  Why?  Because time has passed and we've seen the results of those decisions.

That's the difference between journalism and history.  "The Freedom" is an excellent book about Iraq and our war.  It isn't history - but historians will draw upon it when it comes time to write the sad history of our effort.

Extremely simple

If it is written about the past...it is history. 

Your example showcases historiography.

Feel free to look both up sometime, and enroll in a Historical Methods course.

What part of this do you not understand?  Do you need this typed in Cyrillic or perhaps hangul?

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Very informative

Very informative.  For instance, when Madam Pelosi and her ilk call the Iraq war a "grotesque mistake", the "classic" response would be, "too early to tell".

&quot;Way to go! Articles

"Way to go! Articles from 2004 and 2003 weren't old enough - now we have 2 from 2002! What's next - a commentary on Plessey vs. Ferguson?"

So, your numbers from 2004 and before are relative to the discussion, but rebuttals from the same time frame are irrelevant? Yeah, that sounds about right.

Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid.

Nice job of paying 50% attent

Nice job of paying 50% attention.  The issue isn't that articles from 2004 and 2003 are not relevant - the point is that things have happened since then and recent events deserve equal consideration.  Hasn't the US Supreme Court made any decisions since 2004 or 2003?  Why did the blogger have to ring in such stale data?

9th Circuit track record

I think in the last 5 years only one decision by the Ninth Circuit has been upheld. Talk of dismantling it really is dividing it into two or three circuits. It has the largest population base to cover in the US and has the largest number of judges so that en banc decisions are never following precedent, even for the Ninth Circuit.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

&quot;...in the last 5 years

"...in the last 5 years only one decision by the Ninth [sic] Circuit has been upheld." That simply isn't true.

However, if that is your contention would you be willing to cite some specifics?

Such as the percentage of cases heard by the 9th Circuit that the US Supreme Court is willing to even consider? How many appeals are turned down without being heard? How many decisions aren't appealed at all? Even without those figures, your statement is flat out wrong.

Staggers

What should stagger their imagination is their liberal bias.

I have been a part of so ma

I have been a part of so many class action lawsuits and I've never received anything when they won except for $50.00 from one against register.com. I didn't even think I deserved that either. Of course I cashed the check because it would have just gone to the lawyers. The suit was because register automatically charged you for your domain name renewal when your membership expired. They said that they would do that when you signed up and I considered it my own dumb fault that I forgot to cancel when I didn't need it anymore.

All of the other law suits you needed to still have receipts from years ago. Class action law suits are for the lawyers and that is it.

In this case, it would be okay if they were required to prove that the discrimination was ordered from corporate, but I'm sure they won't have to do that.

What would happen if Wal-Mart

What would happen if Wal-Mart announced they where closing 50% of their stores due to pressure from unions and liberals/democrats?

Liars!

If you don't tell the whole truth, when you know the whole truth, to make it sound another way then it is a lie.  You can be charged with perjury in court for that.

Liars!

By popular demand: National a

By popular demand: National and 9th Circuit reversal rates. Granted this is a few years old, but that shouldn't bother the folks here:

http://llr.lls.edu/volumes/v37-issue1/documents/chemerinsky.pdf

Erwin Chemerinsky has no axe to bear here, huh?

Erwin Chemerinsky has no axe to bear here, huh?

He's not a statistician; he doesn't deal with the relative size of the court; he has no standing on his own to make the claims he makes here, except he thinks the 9th Circuit Court is not Liberal.

Maybe because he keeps losing his Liberal cases there when appealed to the Supreme Court, as he discusses in your linked article?  You know the case where he argued the detainees at Gitmo had the right to habeas corpus?

Lost that one on appeal, huh?

I'm not leary of a lawyer who lost an appeal before the Supreme Court and spends most of the article you linked to arguing how the Supreme Court was wrong to rule against him; also arguing that the 9th Circuit Court is not Liberal and throwing out numbers to show he is right.  But of course the numbers he uses are spurious.  They are out of context with no relative comparison to the other courts.

I think you need to find another source.  What the hey, go back 10 years.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

You couldn't get past the fir

You couldn't get past the first paragraph?  Do you honestly believe one must be a "statistician" to divide one number by another?  He states the percentages - you have no facts to dispute them. 

You claim "...of course the numbers he uses are spurious" (is that your new word of the day?).  Based on what do you make such a statement?  Do you think a law review has the peer review program of this blog? 

The premise of this blog is wrong and the numbers prove it.  You - nor anyone else - can produce numbers to refute that.

The relative size of the court doesn't make any difference.  That's a smokescreen. 

Face it - you won't be honest enough to consider that you could be wrong about the 9th Circuit Court.  I didn't initially cite sources because this is the common NB strategy - refuse to face facts by making wild claims about the author.

Go back to the US Supreme Court website and review the decisions.  They are all there.  Count them yourself.

Naw, I actually read his diatribe agains the 'standing' rulings.

Naw, I actually read his diatribe against the 'standing' rulings.

Your grasp of numbers and context is amazing.  However, if you want to claim the 9th Circuit Court is 'not' Liberal overall, go ahead.  Just try to find someone who isn't grinding an axe trying to explain away his own losses chasing Liberal ideas around the horn.

Try finding some other source.  I'll stick with the source cited in this blog post.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

Another swing and a miss.I ne

Another swing and a miss.

I never said the 9th Circuit Court isn't "Liberal."  I don't buy into the whole concept of labeling courts or judges.  By the way, those do do promptly trip themselves up over the whole judicial activism thing.  "Conservative" judges overturn laws passed by Congress far more than "Liberal."  But that's for another day.

I simply stated it is an urban myth to content the 9th Circuit Court is more reversed than any other in the United States.  The percentage of their cases overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court is roughtly the national average.  You - and others - conflate absolute numbers and percentages by claiming the 9th Circuit is reversed more often based on the volume of cases they hear.

If more drivers are killed on a major highway than on a country road is the highway more dangerous?  To judge that one would have to know the number of vehicles being driven on both.  The highway may well have a higher number of traffic deaths - but that little country road with no lights and an unmarked railroad crossing may be far more deadly.

PS:  The author of that law review article cited his sources - the well respected Supreme Court reporter for the National Law Journal.  Is she part of your vast left wing conspiracy as well?  Did she make up her numbers?  Must she be a statistician to satisfy you?  Or does it have to be in the Washington Times before you will believe it?  Or how about the publication Dr. Timothy Ball writes for - The Beaver?

Your point of conflated numbers is simply wrong.

Your point of conflated numbers is simply wrong.

The numbers cited were in relative juxtaposition with all other Circuit Courts.  They weren't stand alone.  They were also comparative to the other court facts.  That is not conflating numbers.  Try again.  That's why I asked above for you to justify this statement.  You didn't so I assume you cannot.  Context is everything j. frank.

And context is why I'm discarding your 'source' author.  It has nothing to do with the NB way of attacking the author, it has to do with the context of this author's personal stake in what he is trying to say.  His personal stake is to try to justify bad lawyering.  He lost.  That is bad lawyering in my book, especially if I'm footing the bill.

I'm asking you to find a less connected source for your assertions.  That's fair.  I don't see you jumping to do that.  Maybe because this is the only source you can find?  I can find innumerable sources for my assertion that the 9th Circuit Court is overturned at a very high rate for cases appealed.  37% to be precise.  Now, you are trying to tell me that this is not indicative of bad judging?  I disagree.

But, I'm sure you will keep arguing otherwise.  I don't care much for your source, but you did drag one up.  I read it.  I don't trust it.  And the law reporter isn't good enough for me, no.  Sorry.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

You've elected to pass from f

You've elected to pass from facts to faith.  That's the beautiful thing about faith - it doesn't have to be defended from those pesky facts.

Keep dismissing sources that don't agree with you because you don't agree with them.  Accept the spin.

That way you will be safe from learning anything.

Yawn.

Yawn.

Source evaluation, the lost art

What acaiguana did was something called source evaluation, something you clearly have disdain for. 

What would you say if he used Limbaugh's website as a source?  Why, you would whine something about "Blunder Rush", wouldn't you?   

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Two simple numbers don't requ

Two simple numbers don't require an extensive "source evaluation."  And if, indded, that's what Lizard Boy did, it would require more than a dismissive "I don't buy it" for a peer reviewed law journal and a nationally recognized legal publication carrying articles by a nationally recognized Supreme Court reporter.

The joys of source evaluation and critical thinking

Actually, they DO require source evaluation. As much as you desperately want us to throw away our critical thinking skills as you have, it is still not a good idea, even over two numbers.  Besides, as I pointed out, if any of us were to cite Limbaugh's web site as a source, you would whine endlessly about "Blunder Rush". 

This entire phrase reveals your contempt for critical thinking: "...for a peer reviewed law journal and a nationally recognized legal publication carrying articles by a nationally recognized Supreme Court reporter."  You see, frank, "peer review" is NOT an excuse to throw away your critical thinking skills.  When I read something, I consider what I think, not what someone else wants me to think.  So one of the author's buddies read his precious article.  So what?  "Nationally recognized legal publication" similarly means not one damn thing.  Seems to me that indicates, along with "nationally recognized Supreme Court reporter", that you live 100% off of groupthink and won't do anything unless other people approve somehow, as if this is still high school. 

But then, so many Leftists are so stuck in a high school mentality, as to be truly immeasurably pathetic.

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???"  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Keep dodging the simple facts

Keep dodging the simple facts.  The number of cases the US Supreme Court hears each year is common knowledge.  The number of cases the US Supreme Court reverses is common knowledge.  Most folks can divide one number by the other and arrive at an accurate percentage.  Does this really require source evaluation and critical thinking skills?

One can deal in absolute numbers or percentages.

A number of years ago a hunter went nuts in Alaska and wiped out a large portion of a local village.  From memory, half to two-thirds of the denizens were killed.  Was this a much less dangerous place than New York City because a total of a couple of dozen people were murdered vs. hundreds in NYC?  In absolute numbers, of course.  But I like my odds in the big city quite a bit better.

NOW who's dodging?

EVERYTHING you post requires source evaluation and critical thinking skills.  Keep dodging THAT simple fact.  It MIGHT be possible that your precious numbers are wrong...

Just because you are willing, able, and eager to stop critical thinking, don't think for a single nanosecond that I am the same way.

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

As usual God is in the deta

As usual God, is in the details. And Lib***ls are in the fuzzies.

From the Center For Individual Freedom

U.S. Supreme Court Keeps a Watchful Eye on the 9th Circuit

Long considered the federal court breeding ground for judicial activism, the 9th Circuit has been the federal appeals court most often overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court in recent years. And, as shown by statistics compiled by the Center for Individual Freedom Foundation, the High Court’s recently completed October Term, 2002, proved to be no exception to the 9th Circuit’s disfavored place amongst the justices.

Of the 80 cases the Supreme Court decided this past term through opinions, 56 cases arose from the federal appellate courts, three from the federal district courts, and 21 from the state courts. The court reversed or vacated the judgment of the lower court in 59 of these cases. Specifically, the justices overturned 40 of the 56 judgments arising from the federal appellate courts (or 71%), two of the three judgments coming from the federal district courts (or 67%), and 17 of the 21 judgments issued by state courts (or 81%).

Notably, the 9th Circuit accounted for both 30 percent of the cases (24 of 80) and 30 percent of the reversals (18 of 59) the Supreme Court decided by full written opinions this term. In addition, the 9th Circuit was responsible for more than a third (35%, or 8 of 23) of the High Court’s unanimous reversals that were issued by published opinions. Thus, on the whole, the 9th Circuit’s rulings accounted for more reversals this past term than all the state courts across the country combined and represented nearly half of the overturned judgments (45%) of the federal appellate courts.

The federal courts of appeal decide roughly 30,000 cases per year, as reported in statistics compiled by the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts. Of these, the 9th Circuit decides roughly 17%, making it by far the busiest and largest appellate court. But even more surprising than the frequency and number of cases before the 9th Circuit is the frequency with which the U.S. Supreme Court reviews decisions issued by that particular federal appellate court.

Many legal experts attribute the High Court’s frequent review of 9th Circuit decisions to that court’s staggering size — with a full complement of 28 judges, the 9th Circuit has more judges than any other federal appellate court and exercises jurisdiction over California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Montana, Idaho, Nevada, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands. But if the 9th Circuit’s gigantic caseload is to explain away its record in the U.S. Supreme Court, then the frequency of review and reversal should at least correspond to its size and the percentage of federal appellate cases it hears. Unfortunately, this is not the case.

Although the 9th Circuit’s caseload comprised approximately 17% of the federal appellate cases terminated in the year ending March 31, 2002, its decisions accounted for close to half (43%) of all the federal appellate decisions reviewed by the Supreme Court this past term.
Comparatively, the 5th Circuit decided nearly 14% of federal appeals cases, but accounted for only 5.4% of the Supreme Court’s docket. The third largest federal appeals court, the 11th Circuit, accounted for nearly 13% of federal appellate caseload, but only 7.1% of the cases decided by the Supreme Court originated there.

This means that, on average, a case from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit was more than twice as likely to be reviewed and produce a written decision by the U.S. Supreme Court than was a case from the other federal appeals courts. By contrast, a case from the second busiest circuit, the 5th, was nearly a third less likely to be reviewed and decided by the High Court than the average federal appellate case.

It is true that the overall reversal rate of the 9th Circuit (75%) was lower than that of other federal appellate courts — most notably the 4th, 5th, 8th and 10th Circuits, which were all reversed 100% of the time this past term. Yet these “complete” reversal rates are likely due to much less frequent review of those circuits by the U.S. Supreme Court. Specifically, the High Court decided only eight cases from the 4th, 5th, 8th and 10th Circuits combined (three from the 4th, three from the 5th, one from the 8th, and one from the 10th), compared with the 24 cases the Supreme Court took up from the 9th. Thus, the 9th Circuit’s lower overall reversal rate does not demonstrate the justices’ greater agreement with the decisions of the 9th Circuit, but is likely attributable to that circuit’s much higher review rate. Such a conclusion is only reinforced by the fact that the more than half (57%, or 8 of 14) of the federal appellate decisions the Supreme Court unanimously overturned came from the 9th Circuit. This means that a full one-third (8 of 24) of the 9th Circuit cases decided by the High Court were unanimously overturned.

These continuing negative trends are certainly not reflective of the competency of the 9th Circuit’s entire bench, which includes some of the most respected appellate judges in the country. It is, however, indicative of a judicial philosophy to which some 9th Circuit judges adhere. Specifically, in pursuing political and policy preferences at the expense of established precedent and textual commands, some 9th Circuit judges seem to invite review and reversal by the U.S. Supreme Court. Until that changes, it is likely the justices will keep a watchful eye on the federal appeals court out West by continuing to review and reverse a disproportionately large number of 9th Circuit decisions.

From the New York Times

Inconsistency is hallmark of 9th Circuit Appeals Court rulings
By Adam Liptak
THE NEW YORK TIMES

Over the last 20 years, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has developed a reputation for being wrong more often than any other federal appeals court.

In recent years, in cases involving medical marijuana, assisted suicide, disabilities and more mundane issues, dozens of the court's decisions have been reversed unanimously by the Supreme Court.

"In the 1996 term, for example, the 9th Circuit was reversed in at least 24 cases - a staggering number - and at least 16 of them were 9-0 reversals," Akhil Amar, a law professor at Yale, wrote in an online commentary. "When you're not picking up the votes of anyone on the court, something is screwy."

The 9th Circuit may be facing yet another reversal. On Wednesday, it touched off an avalanche of criticism by pronouncing the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.

While the court is famously liberal, critics attribute its record in the Supreme Court more to its unwieldy size than to ideology.

It is by far the largest federal appeals court. At full strength, it has 28 judges, almost twice as many as the next biggest circuit. Its decisions affect a fifth of the nation's population and a third of its land, in nine states and two territories.

Size gives rise to confusion

Of the court's 23 active judges, 17 were appointed by Democratic presidents. That makes it "vastly more liberal than most other courts of appeals, and certainly the Supreme Court," said Eugene Volokh, a law professor at UCLA.

But Mark A. Perry, an appellate lawyer in Washington who was a clerk for a 9th Circuit judge, said ideology does not account for the court's track record.

"Size gives rise to conflict and confusion," he said. "There is no consistency."

Richard A. Posner, a federal appeals court judge in Chicago, devoted a law review article to proving statistically that the 9th Circuit's size predisposes it to "judicial irresponsibility."

The court's size has led to periodic calls for dividing it. In 1997, Congress created a commission to consider the issue. Its chairman was Byron R. White, who had retired from the Supreme Court a few years before.

The records of the White Commission include frank discussions by Supreme Court and 9th Circuit judges of the court's shortcomings.

For instance, judges on the court said they did not have time to read all of the decisions it issued.

According to the commission's 1998 report, 57 percent of judges in the 9th Circuit, compared with 86 percent of federal appeals court judges elsewhere, said they read most or all of their court's decisions.

"The 9th Circuit issues too many decisions for anyone to read," wrote Judge Andrew J. Kleinfeld, who was appointed by the first President George Bush. "Judges on the same court should read each other's decisions. We are so big that we cannot and do not."

"Put bluntly," wrote Judge Diarmuid F. O'Scannlain, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan, "it becomes difficult to know what our circuit's law is."

Separate divisions considered

The court's chief judge, Mary M. Schroeder, who was appointed by President Jimmy Carter, defended it in an interview. "We have evaluated, and we have studied," she said, "and we have not been able to document issues that are directly attributable to the size of the court."

In his study, Posner considered how often the Supreme Court had reversed the 9th Circuit in a way that suggested simple error by the lower court, as opposed to a principled disagreement on a knotty legal question.

Sometimes the Supreme Court reverses lower courts summarily.

This means, Posner wrote, that the lower court "got the issue so clearly wrong that there is no need for the illumination of the issues that briefing and argument would afford."

Other times, the Supreme Court reverses unanimously. That means, Posner wrote, that the decision was "more likely to be just plain incorrect, rather than being merely the reflection of political difference."

By both measures, the 9th Circuit was wrong more often than any other circuit in the dozen years Posner surveyed, though 1997.

Posner concluded that "problems of quality control indeed increase with the size of the circuit."

The White Commission recommended that the 9th Circuit be divided into largely autonomous divisions. Legislation along those lines was proposed but not adopted.

The 9th Circuit covers Alaska, Arizona, California, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon and Washington, along with Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.

The judges have chambers throughout the circuit and meet only rarely. Assuming 28 judges, there are more than 3,000 possible combinations of three-judge panels. But the active judges rely heavily on more than 20 senior judges, and panels often also contain visiting judges.

Critics say the 9th Circuit's procedure for full-court review accounts for much of the reversal rate. All other circuits sit as one to hear full-court, or en banc, cases. The 9th Circuit sits in panels of 11.

Full-court hearings increase

The procedure injects randomness into decisions. If a case is decided 6-5, there is no reason to think it represents the views of the majority of the court's 23 active members.

"If you run a judicial process as a crap shoot," Kleinfeld wrote, "the crap shooter's principles will affect the outcomes."

In 1998, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor complained that the 9th Circuit did not use even this flawed procedure enough. She wrote that the court had heard only eight of 4,481 cases en banc in the previous year. In that time, the Supreme Court addressed 45 cases from the 9th Circuit.

That has since changed.

"The 9th Circuit is now more likely to grant en banc review than any other circuit," said Tracey George, a law professor at Northwestern University.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

You confuse volume (decibels)

You confuse volume (decibels) and volume (mass) with quality.  Those numbers could have been presented in a few lines.  But you like the Ann Falter footnote theory - throw in enough stuff, and some people will believe it based on the mass alone.

Hope you didn't get your fingers sticky with all that cut 'n' paste...

I'm pretty sure he cut and pasted for you j. frank.

I'm pretty sure he cut and pasted for you j. frank.

Seems to be the only way to expose you to more than two numbers.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

Then how about posting more r

Then how about posting more recent than 2002?  Or something that wasn't already on the table?

Or, how about addressing my original premise?  The percentage of 9th Circuit Court cases reversed by the US Supreme Court in the 21st Century is approximately the average of all Circuit Court cases reversed?

How about being honest fran

How about being honest frank?

DAILY JOURNAL NEWSWIRE ARTICLE
http://www.dailyjour...
© 2006 The Daily Journal Corporation.
All rights reserved.
July 3, 2006

Ninth Takes Its Lumps From Supreme Court

By Brent Kendall
Daily Journal Staff Writer

WASHINGTON - The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals had another rocky year at the U.S. Supreme Court, as the justices reversed the nation's largest and most liberal circuit 83 percent of the time, with the overwhelming majority of those reversals coming in unanimous high court decisions.

After an unusual 2004-05 term where the 9th Circuit proved to be more conservative than the Supremes in a number of notable cases, the high court's 9th Circuit reversals in 2005-06 returned somewhat to the more traditional pattern of reining in the appeals court.

The justices considered 18 rulings out of the 9th Circuit this term, which ended Thursday, and reversed or vacated 15 of those decisions.

Twelve of those reversals were unanimous, and in four cases, the court found the 9th Circuit's errors clear enough to issue summary reversals without the need for full briefing and oral argument.

Thomas C. Goldstein of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld said the 9th Circuit's reversal rate wasn't that far out of line with other federal appellate circuits, but said it was clear that the Supreme Court was paying particular attention to the West Coast court.

"The Supreme Court is trying to send a signal to some judges of the 9th Circuit it has particular concerns with that they really aren't following the law," Goldstein said.

On the bright side for the 9th Circuit, it was affirmed in one of the biggest cases of the Supreme Court's term: the dispute over Oregon's assisted suicide law.

The justices, by a 6-3 vote, agreed with the 9th Circuit that then-Attorney General John Ashcroft did not have the authority to block Oregon's law, which allows doctors to prescribe lethal drug doses to terminally ill patients. Gonzales v. Oregon, 2006 DJDAR 608.

Judge Richard Tallman wrote the 9th Circuit's 2-1 opinion in the case.

"That was the single most important case" from the circuit, said University of Pittsburgh law professor Arthur Hellman, who follows the 9th Circuit closely.

Perhaps the 9th Circuit's most visible reversal came in Garcetti v. Ceballos, 2006 DJDAR 6495, where a deeply divided Supreme Court ruled that the First Amendment did not protect a Los Angeles County prosecutor who alleged that his superiors retaliated against him for reporting suspicions of police misconduct.

The 9th Circuit, in a 2-1 opinion by Judge Stephen Reinhardt, said the prosecutor's speech was protected because he was speaking on matters of public concern.

However, the high court, in an opinion by Justice Anthony Kennedy, said the First Amendment did not protect public employees when their speech was made pursuant to their official job duties.

The government, Kennedy said, needed to be able to control the words and actions of its workers.

The court appeared deadlocked on the case, and ordered it re-argued for the benefit of Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. after Sandra Day O'Connor retired. Had O'Connor remained, it's possible the decision would have come out the other way.

Many of the other 9th Circuit cases at the Supreme Court were not high-profile disputes.

Once again, the justices sent signals that the 9th Circuit was out of step on habeas issues by second-guessing final judgments by state courts.

In a case from Arizona, the justices said the 9th Circuit "exceeded its limited authority on habeas review" by ordering the state to conduct a jury trial to resolve a death-row inmate's claim of mental retardation. Schriro v. Smith, 2005 DJDAR 12365.

The court also said the 9th Circuit was wrong when it granted habeas relief to a state inmate who was denied access to a law library before he represented himself in court. Kane v. Espitia, 2005 DJDAR 12851.

In a third case, the justices said the appeals court overreached by siding with a black California inmate who charged that the Los Angeles prosecutor in his case improperly dismissed a black juror because of her race.

Kennedy said the 9th Circuit did not show enough deference to the state courts, which upheld the jury strike. Rice v. Collins, 2006 DJDAR 675.

"We already know that next term is going to be more of the same," said Kent Scheidegger of the Sacramento-based Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, pointing to two 9th Circuit habeas cases on the Supreme Court's 2006 docket that seem likely candidates for reversal.

Hellman said the 9th Circuit received a "fairly severe reprimand" in Gonzales v. Thomas, 2006 DJDAR 4483, an asylum case involving a white South African family living in Los Angeles, where the Supreme Court summarily reversed an en banc ruling from the appeals court.

The 9th Circuit, in an opinion by Judge Kim McLane Wardlaw, held that the family could seek refugee protection to avoid the threat of violence from black workers who were abused by one of the family's racist relatives.

The Supreme Court said the 9th Circuit had no business deciding that the family constituted a "particular social group," a label that made the family eligible for refugee protection.

Instead, the justices said, the appeals court should have remanded the case for the Board of Immigration Appeals to decide the question.

The business community was pleased by Supreme Court reversals of 9th Circuit decisions on antitrust and discrimination issues. In Texaco v. Dagher, 2006 DJDAR 2329, the Supreme Court ruled that a joint venture formed by Shell Oil and Texaco was not per se illegal under antitrust law just because the companies fixed their prices for gasoline.

The decision reversed a 9th Circuit ruling by Reinhardt that sided with a group of 23,000 service station owners who wanted to sue the oil giants.

In a discrimination case, the justices ruled that a Las Vegas plaintiff could not sue Domino's Pizza under a civil rights statute that forbids discrimination in making and enforcing contracts.

The plaintiff, who had a contract to build stores for Domino's, sued the pizza chain in his individual capacity, not on behalf of his company, which was party to the contract.

The high court said the 9th Circuit erred in ruling that the plaintiff had standing to sue. Domino's Pizza v. McDonald, 2006 DJDAR 2064.

The overall reversal rate for all Supreme Court decisions in 2005-06 was 72 percent. Comparing the 9th Circuit's performance with that of other individual circuits is difficult because the Supreme Court hears so many more 9th Circuit cases.

Indeed, 9th Circuit rulings comprised one-fifth of the court's 2005 docket.

That's understandable, said Hellman, given the size of the circuit, which decides one-sixth of all federal appeals even though there are 13 appellate circuits.

Even if the 9th Circuit's reversal rate stands out, the court "seems to be a little closer to the mainstream than it was for a while," Hellman said.

The second most reviewed appeals courts this year were the New York-based 2nd Circuit and the Cincinnati-based 6th Circuit, each with seven cases.

The 2nd Circuit's reversal rate, 86 percent, was higher than the 9th Circuit's.

In addition to the assisted suicide case, the 9th Circuit was affirmed in two other decisions. One centered on the withholding of Social Security benefits to collect on long-delinquent student loan debts.

In the other, the justices agreed with the 9th Circuit that workers at a meat processing plant should get paid for the time they spend walking between their work stations and an area where they change their protective work clothing. IBP Inc. v. Alvarez, 2005 DJDAR 13153.

Other 9th Circuit reversals included the Supreme Court's decision to revive Anna Nicole Smith's federal court lawsuit seeking millions from the estate of her rich late husband, a Texas oil baron.

And in a technical death penalty opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia, a 5-4 court said there were no constitutional problems in a California jury's death sentence, even though the jury considered two invalid special circumstances when it condemned a Kern County man. Brown v. Sanders, 2006 DJDAR 383.

The 9th Circuit had ordered that the defendant receive a lesser sentence or a new penalty trial.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

July 3, 2006? Sorry, that'

July 3, 2006? Sorry, that's not recent enough. Cite something from 5 minutes ago, or you're wrong. </eyeroll>

"It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

Jack, your information is too recent. It needs to be 'older'.

Jack, your information is too recent.  It needs to be 'older'.

Get a grip.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

Its not that the information

Its not that the information is too old, its that it won't fit Franks opinion and therefor will be disregaurded as right wing rubbish.

chad, information is like wine, with age it becomes better.

chad, information is like wine, with age it becomes better.

I learned all this stuff when I was studying datum and data.  Data was my best friend in life but datum was just a picky little imp.

ACA

...

Hillary Clinton says:  "I want to take those profits."

I had already posted the aver

I had already posted the averages for the US Supreme Court's 2005-2006 term on February 7th.  It doesn't take hundreds of lines to display a few figures.

The differences between the averages you cited and mine are due to (1.) Rounding; and (2) Only appeals from the 11 circuit courts are cited.

Go ahead and run your own 2001-2006 averages:  9th Circuit vs. all 11 circuits.  The figures are almost the same...

I don't buy into the whole

I don't buy into the whole concept of labeling courts or judges.

One sentence later our resident lib***l then labels..

"Conservative" judges overturn laws passed by Congress far more than "Liberal."

You are funny frank. Unintentionally, of course.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

That's why I used &quot;&quot

That's why I used "" around the labels. My apologies if that was too subtle for you...

Man, can't you ever be trut

Man, can't you ever be truthful? Just once?

Too subtle?

You wouldn't know subtlety if it crapped on you from a thousand feet. And you're as transparent as Joe Biden's mind. It's sad, really.

What you actually mean is you do use labels when it suits you.

So it's the old 'well, I don't believe in conservative versus lib***l labels, but if I did, well then the figures I show prove that lib***ls are in fact better anyway.'

Oh please, get over yourself. Adjust that to "too idiotic" and I'll accept your apology.

"Our readers don't give a rat's ass about what you think. They want facts."

Elmore Leonard, 'The Hot Kid'.

For a thoughtful article on t

For a thoughtful article on the entire topic of reversals:

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1152867929976

In other words, is the US Supreme Court "reversal rate" a meaningful number?

For the 2005-2006 term (please see cite, above):  9th Circuit Reversal rate: 83.33% (lower than 100% for 1st, 3rd, & 7th; lower than 86% for 2nd and just above 11th's 80%) - National average: 76%.

Raw averages for the 5 terms 2001-2006 (year by year averages, not by total number of cases): 9th CC: 78.8%; National: 75.4%.   Just as I suggested...

Theft from Wal-Mart

This issue aside...I bet you salivate over the prospect of stealing from Wal-Mart, don't you?

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

If that 76% reversal rate sta

If that 76% reversal rate stands, then something is FUBAR with our judicary. 

PD: Please read the most rece

PD: Please read the most recent article I cited. The whole question (issue) of "reversals" is a most interesting topic. Overall, if the US Supreme Court reviews 80 out of 30,000 cases, most folks would suggest that's a fairly high batting average.

I think if liberals were hone

I think if liberals were honest, (a challenge in itself, I know) they could come to grips with what really sets them off about the Walmart organization and business model.

Walmart: Meeting the goals of communisum without the requisite misery. 

IOW - Walmart has managed to provide a living wage for thousands while delivering inexpensive quality goods to millions.  Just like communisum has been promising for decades.  Its very existance stands as an irritating and inarguable reminder that capitalism is superior to the communist system into which they have invested so much of themselves.  

&quot;Living wage?&quot;  Is

"Living wage?"  Is that why so many Wal-Mart workers must use state paid for health care?  Do you work there?  You like that snappy blue vest?

Here is one of the most regimented corporations in the world - famous for doing things precisely the same way in every store and every buying decision - defending itself by claiming each store is individually managed and run.  Yes, they say, the company wide data are not what the court should consider.  Take each store one at a time and Wal-Mart does just fine.  It's just when you add all those numbers together things don't look so good.  [TWSJ 2/7/2007]

J. Frank - where I live Wal

J. Frank - where I live Walmart pays considerably over the min wage and the people who work there are mostly teenagers. Their pay and benefits are comparable to Target. Why aren't there all these law suits against Target? Maybe because their pockets are not as deep? Give me a break J. Frank - wake up - Liberals are on a witch hunt against Wal-Mart because they are easy to demonize.

Success is always easy to demonize because people are envious by nature. There is always something more anyone can do as long as they are wealthier than someone else.

Wal-Mart

J - my wife works at Wal-Mart. Its a job with pluses and minuses like all other jobs. She isn't forced to work there. The bene's are OK and we get an additional 10% off all non food items, stock options, paid leave, medical and a LIVING WAGE. We are not on any state or federal assistance plans.

What is YOUR, not the dems or someone else's opinion, problem with WalMart

Your attitude with the &quot;

Your attitude with the "snappy blue vest" displays lots of hatred. What is your problem? Why are you so angry when you come here?

BTW - Jack just busted your whole 9th arguement to nothing. Ready for a whipping on Walmart???

Florida - exactly. These l

Florida - exactly. These libs like to make fun of people who work there - it's so typical of them. Like your wife - that is the majority of other people working at the Wal-marts by me besides teenagers- second wage earners.

J.Frank probably wouldn't set foot in a Wal-Mart because he is too good for it, so he wouldn't know that the most disadvantage people he would see were people who shopped there - not people who worked there. Poor people shop at Wal-Mart. Not only poor people. Wealthy people have a choice to save money or be seen with the riff raff - but Poor people don't. They need to shop at Wal-Mart.

Dee - She works in a rural WM

Dee - She works in a rural WM. The workers are pretty mixed as you said plus seniors needing some extra income or something to do. We're middle class and shop there. The prices are great and help with a family of 4. J Frank's condensation is typically of the left.

I wonder if J will answer. I love to take on ignorant folks that hate WM. They usually have NO facts, just repeat the same talking points.

Florida - right - anyone who

Florida - right - anyone who likes to save money shops there. I'm middle class also but have friends who are very wealthy and still shop there. Maybe not every single week - but if they see an ad for something that is a good deal - they shop there. It's only the snobbish liberals who won't shop there.

J frank. There you go again.

J frank. There you go again. The majority of wal mart workers are minors. The majority of wal mart workers go to high school during the day. The majority of wal mart workers use their parents health care, be that state paid or what. 5 out of my 6 kids worked at wal mart. 6 out of 6 of my kids have health care, and its not state paid. The lowest paid is a daughter that works as a veterinarian assistant. Only one of these 6 kids has a collage education and they all make at least 28000 a year. None of them currently work for wal mart, but they do shop there.

Quit making up so many statements and do some research on your flying assumptions. Assumptions are not facts.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

According to Wal*Mart's Janua

According to Wal*Mart's January 11, 2007, Press Release, less than 5% of its employees receive health care from parents, school, or college.  Not that the company would know anything about its own employees, of course...

"The majority of wal mart [sic] workers are minors."  We do know that Wal*Mart signed a consent decree to not employee children under 14 or let employees under 18 handle at work chain saws, cardboard bailers, forklifts, or similar dangerous types of equipment.

Where in the world did you get the "fact" that the majority of Wal*Mart employees are minors and go to high school during the day?  On the face of it that statement doesn't make sense.